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Title: Festers Map
Post by: Hajo on October 01, 2003, 04:07:00 PM: Fester hosted H2H today on his new map. Great Map for gameplay, had fights in minutes....A21 10K base...reminds one
of the Beta Map. VH Bases have towns also....rolling hills for
on the deck furballs.

Many other ideas brought forth in the Map....roads wrap around
the airbase...makes it easier to spot convoys. GV spawns a Hoot.

I like it....instead of chasing fights...or going into a 30 to 40 plane gangbang, many smaller fights should develop.
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 04:40:03 PM: thx hajo :)
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Post by: Cooley on October 01, 2003, 04:55:43 PM: Visited there also today, very nice map
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Post by: Innominate on October 01, 2003, 05:09:26 PM: Can't wait to see it in the MA.
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Post by: sax on October 01, 2003, 05:11:53 PM: Same
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 05:26:59 PM: http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/festerma.res

heres the terrain check it out see what you think of it.

I'm itchign to see it in action in the main arena I think it will kick arnold
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Post by: B17Skull12 on October 01, 2003, 05:37:06 PM: yay i love it fester so when you emailing HT?
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Post by: Hooligan on October 01, 2003, 05:38:43 PM: Looks great. Thanks for all the work you did fes.

Hooligan
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 05:43:04 PM: HT has it.

they recompile it or somthing before they release it so hope it makes it into fridays terrain change (crosses fingers and prays)

i'm a bit burned out on 30 mile fight chasing of the current large arenas.

the map I made has field spaced the same distances on average as mindanao small map. and we all know what a furball mindanao is.
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Post by: streetstang on October 01, 2003, 06:16:42 PM: Fester & HiTech
This map is one of the best I have seen since Trinity was brought out. Has everthing any type of AH player could want, with tons of GV spawns, AF's to fight over and as Hajo said, finding a fight on this map will be anything but difficult. I say AH would be doing all the MA a great justice by putting this map up this friday and giving us all somthing new to fight over:D :D :D

Please please please pretty please give us this map:lol
>S< All
Jeffer
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Post by: Tarmac on October 01, 2003, 06:18:34 PM: Looks great. Can't wait to see it in the MA.
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Post by: grnhornt on October 01, 2003, 06:29:28 PM: Great map fester, I like it. Good job. ~~:) :D :) :D~~
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Post by: Reschke on October 01, 2003, 06:30:17 PM: Hell of a map Fester. Thanks for sending it to me earlier today. I just got through flying around on it offline and it was a blast; I hope it makes it into the terrain change in time.
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Post by: gatso on October 01, 2003, 06:47:35 PM: I hate to be a killjoy... I sent HT my MA style map a month ago today but I'm not holding my breath about seeing it in the MA anytime soon. They are already late by their own schedule for AH2 and from what I gather they're all working flat out on getting it released and everything else is secondary.

Shame really because I like my map and I like Festers too after downloading it and having a look. If mine doesn't make it into the current version I plan on modifying it ASAP as soon as the new TE comes out for AH2.

mine btw: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stant.family/Aceshigh/equinox.jpg

Gatso
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Post by: scJazz on October 01, 2003, 06:55:25 PM: Looks pretty neat Fester. I like the 2 CR, 1 CA fleets, no DDs; nice touch. Rolling hills with ranges that need to be climbed over. I noticed the effort takin to lay out the GV spawns. GV spawns are set up for defenders ability to re-take a base. Also means missions that cut into GV spawn chains going to be great.

Umm nice touch on A21... 10K base for king of the mountain. It will have to go though since you don't have one for the Rook or Knight setups. If each country had 1 on each side of that mountain that would work out fine but as it is? Doubt HT will approve it.

Having the convoys around the bases is also nice. Not sure I like the ease of repairing HQ. Takes away from buff pilots enjoyment if there is no real point to setting up an HQ mission. Noticed what seemed to be an overly large amount of terrain behind the Bish setup. Might be abused by buffs climbing out in extra safe territory. Could some un-aligned towns be set out in that area to blink so such pilots could be found easier?

Oddly enough after I was viewing it for a bit AH quit to desktop for no apparent reason.

Good work sir... TY!
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 06:58:25 PM: gatso can you post the res file?
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Post by: gatso on October 01, 2003, 07:00:31 PM: gatso@99thastag.org

I'll email it to ya... I also have it hosted if needed but don't especially want to publicise it too much at the mo.

tard moment on my part. email link fixed

Gatso
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 07:16:18 PM: mail not working :(
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 07:17:55 PM: email it to scott@aquara.com
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Post by: Citabria on October 01, 2003, 07:39:10 PM: well I know hitech and gang can do anything they want to it just comes down to what they think will be more beneficial. would releasing a new terrain that instigates fast paced action so dweebs have a diversion while ah2 is finished be worth the time it takes to recompile the terrain for use in the main arena?

Ive seen HTC do some fast work in record unbelievable time.
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Post by: Hajo on October 01, 2003, 07:39:41 PM: Gatso........took a look at your map. Looks great! I'm sure that

would be well received in MA also! Possibilites for good fights

under the usual 30 plane gangbang limit

Big maps do look nice.....but this Big Isle Map has the majority

of the time 30 planes on 5......action usually limited to a huge

gangbang while taking bases. Everyone checks dar when they

log on to find a fight.....what one usually finds in this map is a

huge green darbar with a small red one....or a huge red darbar

with a small green one. Fights on this map usually confined to

two small areas of the map...pity too...it's a big map. That also

could be the pack mentality at work...dogpile on the wabbit
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Post by: gatso on October 01, 2003, 07:43:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Citabria
well I know hitech and gang can do anything they want to

Yup, thats pretty much what it comes down to :D

I've not given up hope yet. We'll just have to wait and see.

Gatso
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Post by: gatso on October 01, 2003, 07:47:46 PM: ah what the heck.. I wasn't going to post this... you can thank Mr Bacardi for me doing so :D Check out the ports btw. They're the only non standard feature and as such will probably get scrubbed. I think it's a good idea anyway.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stant.family/Aceshigh/ter/equinox.res

Gatso
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Post by: moot on October 01, 2003, 10:00:26 PM: two things:

1)no one cares, but there's no snow, i think it's too bad.
2)didn't see any storm fronts, ?
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Post by: MetaTron on October 01, 2003, 11:08:12 PM: Equinox is a nice map, but I had trouble with it. The boats dont move? I would like to see this in the MA.

Cit I like the way you changed the vehicle bases. I will reserve judgment on the rest until its in the MA.

Well done both of you!
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Post by: icemaw on October 02, 2003, 12:07:47 AM: Quote
Originally posted by MetaTron
Equinox is a nice map, but I had trouble with it. The boats dont move? I would like to see this in the MA.

Cit I like the way you changed the vehicle bases. I will reserve judgment on the rest until its in the MA.

Well done both of you!

Ships move fine you just need to give them a waypoint. They dont have preset stating waypoints yet. Both maps are very nice. The destroyed building on the Eqnox map at the tank town are awsome. Really fine work both of you . Would love to see both these maps in the MA.
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Post by: Cooley on October 02, 2003, 01:30:21 AM: Noticed lot's of farmland textures on side of mountains and in other odd places, I guess they could be Vinyards, but looked a little odd

Great job on roads near airfields, gives base area more visual structure from above.

Just a thought about Fictional maps, what about giving certain regions names. It would add a bit of immersion and would become easier to give position, etc etc

"Hey! NOE raid down in Bootawanga, base ##, rolllllllllll "
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Post by: trolla on October 02, 2003, 04:13:20 AM: WTG fester, great job I sure hope it comes in rotation pretty soon :)
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Post by: Dowding on October 02, 2003, 05:14:17 AM: Quote
Umm nice touch on A21... 10K base for king of the mountain. It will have to go though since you don't have one for the Rook or Knight setups. If each country had 1 on each side of that mountain that would work out fine but as it is? Doubt HT will approve it.

Perhaps your quite new to AH, but back in the day one of the orginal beta maps had a single field (A1) at 10k in the centre of the terrain. It spawned some great fights, since there were lower bases the base of the mountain and great deal of team-work was required to capture it. I'd like to see something like that again. Having one side own it initially wouldn't be that unbalancing.
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Post by: gatso on October 02, 2003, 06:21:28 AM: Quote
Originally posted by MetaTron
Equinox is a nice map, but I had trouble with it. The boats dont move? I would like to see this in the MA.
Fixed.
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Originally posted by Icemaw
The destroyed building on the Eqnox map at the tank town are awsome.
Thank Bullethead. Tanktown on equinox is his baby and I agree, he did a great job :)
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Originally posted by Cooley
Just a thought about Fictional maps, what about giving certain regions names. It would add a bit of immersion and would become easier to give position, etc etc
I agree. Come up with 19-22 names (1 for each island) and I'll add em to the CB map, see what it looks like. :D

Gatso
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Post by: Joc on October 02, 2003, 06:37:20 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Perhaps your quite new to AH, but back in the day one of the orginal beta maps had a single field (A1) at 10k in the centre of the terrain. It spawned some great fights, since there were lower bases the base of the mountain and great deal of team-work was required to capture it. I'd like to see something like that again. Having one side own it initially wouldn't be that unbalancing.

LOL I remember A1!:D loved it,if ya took it ya felt like ya had achieved somethin!!! was fun throwin rocks down on the Rooks n Nits from up there:D
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Post by: scJazz on October 02, 2003, 07:33:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Perhaps your quite new to AH, but back in the day one of the orginal beta maps had a single field (A1) at 10k in the centre of the terrain. It spawned some great fights, since there were lower bases the base of the mountain and great deal of team-work was required to capture it. I'd like to see something like that again. Having one side own it initially wouldn't be that unbalancing.

You know it always annoys the piss out of me when someone tries to stand up and deliver a message from the supposed superiority of the "I've been here since the beginning" crowd.

Perhaps you haven't noticed because your eyesight is failing but... don't see that map in rotation anymore do you? Maybe you have noticed that all the maps in rotation have a serious attempt at balance?
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Post by: MetaTron on October 02, 2003, 08:10:07 AM: scJazz, that's not the way to be. There's nothing wrong with the approach Fester took with his map, or he wouldn't have used it. The effect the central mountain will have upon a countries cooperation level and the focus of fighting to one area will amaze you.

I welcome the return of the mountain. I would rather there were a few more changes to the map though. I am a little concerned about the peripheral fleets quickly running out of effectiveness for instance, but only MA use will tell.

I will be anxiously awaiting Friday's rotation to see what map pops up. A new map would be a great change of pace.
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Post by: Zippatuh on October 02, 2003, 08:12:13 AM: Really looks like that will play well. Fields are good and close. I also like that on some of your GV spawns it looks like a lot of them are in one direction. That removes the possibility of the enemy taking your bases with GV’s but gives the home country a chance to take it back with theirs.

Only problem I can see, only 1 10 K base at the center? That does give a little advantage to the country who lands in that SE corner.

Good job all together. I hope to see it in the rotation soon.
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Post by: Drunky on October 02, 2003, 08:16:25 AM: Quote
Originally posted by scJazz
You know it always annoys the piss out of me when someone tries to stand up and deliver a message from the supposed superiority of the "I've been here since the beginning" crowd.

Perhaps you haven't noticed because your eyesight is failing but... don't see that map in rotation anymore do you? Maybe you have noticed that all the maps in rotation have a serious attempt at balance?

I bet your one of those wacko Hollywood liberal Democrats.

Balance. Ptttthhhhhh.
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Post by: Zanth on October 02, 2003, 08:40:06 AM: Quote
Originally posted by scJazz
Not sure I like the ease of repairing HQ. Takes away from buff pilots enjoyment if there is no real point to setting up an HQ mission.

Not seen this map yet, but what you describe would be a good thing for the other 100 or so other players that log on to play the game. There are plenty of other things to bomb.

(OT: HQ and it's radar effect is kind of stupid. Radar and radar bar should be based from each individual airfield, not some made up central place.)

Good job on you guys putting in the time for the maps, I hope HTC appreciates it.
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Post by: Dowding on October 02, 2003, 09:36:27 AM: That always annoys the piss out of you? Okaaaaay.

The truth be told, I didn't know you were new to the game or whether you were a vet with a new handle... either way you clearly weren't aware of its existance. It's not in rotation because of its size, not because it happened to have a single field at 10k in the centre. When I started playing, the arena would only hold 200 IIRC and 100 people online would be the most I would see.

The idea is sound and made for some great furball action, as others will (and do) testify. AH really was a blast then and there wasn't any of that long-distance-can't-find-a-fight nonsense.

Oh yeah, I haven't been here from the beginning. July 2000.
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Post by: Rude on October 02, 2003, 10:26:14 AM: Haven't seen or flown it yet....still, thanks for the work and effort.
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Post by: SlapShot on October 02, 2003, 10:31:44 AM: I checked out both maps offline and I really like them. <> to your efforts !!!

Fester ... I just wish that the East and South bodies of water were close to the size of the North body. Was hoping that you could cut the access that the East and South bodies have to each other, and also cut down the size of the Southern body. This would effectivly eliminate or make it very hard to hide CVs in both those bodies of water.
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Post by: moot on October 02, 2003, 10:36:23 AM: would've been cool to have the seas pass through the center of the mainland, nice contrast of a CV passing through moutainous channels, but more importantly so they could be used offensively there too, they look a bit isolated as they are.
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Post by: Rutilant on October 02, 2003, 10:42:19 AM: moot.. like pizza? :p
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Post by: Drunky on October 02, 2003, 11:22:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
would've been cool to have the seas pass through the center of the mainland, nice contrast of a CV passing through moutainous channels, but more importantly so they could be used offensively there too, they look a bit isolated as they are.

(http://www.cox-internet.com/drunky/Festermap.jpg)
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Post by: Grizzly on October 02, 2003, 11:36:43 AM: Thank you to both Fester and Gatso for what looks like terrific terrains. I can't wait to play them!

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Originally posted by scJazz

Umm nice touch on A21... 10K base for king of the mountain. It will have to go though since you don't have one for the Rook or Knight setups. If each country had 1 on each side of that mountain that would work out fine but as it is? Doubt HT will approve it.

This advantage won't last long. The nice thing, it is an unique objective worth fighting for... a crown jewel of sort. If there must be balance, can this base be initially assigned a neutral or forth country status? But, like I said, it will only be a balance issue, and a small one at that, until its first capture... then alls fair.
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Post by: Citabria on October 02, 2003, 11:49:19 AM: I'm just hoping for fridays terrain change its either my map or small maps because I get so bored flying 30 miles to find a gangbang or a fight that is no more.
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Post by: SlapShot on October 02, 2003, 11:56:43 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Citabria
I'm just hoping for fridays terrain change its either my map or small maps because I get so bored flying 30 miles to find a gangbang or a fight that is no more.

In another thread, Skuzzy said that Trinity is up for Friday. Maybe Skuzzy will put your map into a "TEST" arena like he did with Big Isles ... to test and work out any map bugs ... that would be cool.

SKUZZY !!! WHAT DO YOU THINK ... TEST ARENA ?!?!?!?
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Post by: Zanth on October 02, 2003, 12:17:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
SKUZZY !!! WHAT DO YOU THINK ... TEST ARENA ?!?!?!?

I think he heard ya, I think I landed first "announced" kill sortie in test arena - in a 262 of course (it is fester's map after all). It seems it is using an old database because my name was my old one and perks were different.
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Post by: Citabria on October 02, 2003, 12:33:20 PM: HTC ROCKS!!!!!!!!!! THANKYOU HTC THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!! lololol yeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Test arena time!!!
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Post by: AcId on October 02, 2003, 01:49:31 PM: WTG Fester :D

It has promise
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Post by: Tarmac on October 02, 2003, 03:20:07 PM: WEEEE!!!

WTG HTC and Fester!
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Post by: SlapShot on October 02, 2003, 04:24:46 PM: WTG SKUZZY !!! YOU DA MAN !!!!
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Post by: AKWeav on October 02, 2003, 09:24:05 PM: Don't know whats going on, but everytime I log in to test the map, I either lose my cursor, or get a hard lockup (hard to tell since I can't find cursor) and have to reboot.:confused:
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Post by: Citabria on October 02, 2003, 09:50:35 PM: weav can you try deleting the "festerma" res file from your folder and downloading it again?
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Post by: Citabria on October 02, 2003, 09:56:07 PM: in fact id recomend to anyone who downloaded festerma from the bbs or h2h before htc released it on the terrain test delete it from your terrain folder and download it fresh from the terrain test server
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Post by: Gunslinger on October 02, 2003, 11:55:10 PM: Fester had to say I enjoyed your map today in the test arena...hope it makes it into the MA rotation.

Fun point was "JETWARS" yes everyone had a 262 for like 10 minutes cause they were FREE. I had a 262 fight that really rocked. anyways WTG job welldone!
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Post by: mrblack on October 03, 2003, 12:07:19 AM: Alot of work went into this map it would be a shame for it not to be put in the MA
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Post by: AKWeav on October 03, 2003, 05:55:16 AM: Well that worked, although I had never dl the map before.:)
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Post by: gofaster on October 03, 2003, 12:21:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by gatso
mine btw: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stant.family/Aceshigh/equinox.jpg

Gatso

Cool map. Brings back memories of Air Warrior BigPac arena.
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Post by: BGBMAW on October 03, 2003, 07:40:19 PM: sweet map fester i flew...killed --died ..captured a base..

look forward to more war

the other maps in here are kik ass....

Salute your effort..thank u

Love
BiGB
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Post by: BGBMAW on October 03, 2003, 10:39:39 PM: LOLOLO 1 more thing..LOVe the Pork Spawn points ---Fester is a porker:)..

do ove how dueling spawn points at strat trgts..excellent festy:)
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Post by: Mitsu on October 04, 2003, 12:06:44 AM: Exciting Map...S!
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Post by: AKIron on October 04, 2003, 12:23:34 AM: Flew it tonight in MA. I like it. Well done Fester, thanks.
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Post by: beet1e on October 04, 2003, 03:58:00 AM: The best thing about Fester and his new map is this. He didn't like some of the earlier maps, so he designed his own - instead of whining. (Well, not too much whining :D) And in this community, that's an admirable quality. ;) :)
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Post by: Creamo on October 04, 2003, 05:06:18 AM: I liked it.

A 109F4 with a DT could make a run on a base, losing the tank near the base, and still land the kills.

Good action, no pizza textures, yet add new ground based tiles like the CT and this is a happening map. Nice effort festard.

I enjoyed it.
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Post by: lazs2 on October 04, 2003, 08:59:42 AM: wow... been gone and missed it... This is great! This is the best big map by far. Probly the best map so far.

he moved the fields a little closer... everyone is happy... what a concept.
lazs