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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Udie on October 02, 2003, 11:41:34 AM
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a $30 12 guage single shot shotgun :D
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Sounds like a good deal, assuming it's not ragged out. I wouldn't mind owning something like that for trap shooting, but for bird hunting I often need another shot. :D
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my first (that I paid for) was a $54 sears single shot 12 guage.
single shots are great for hunting, you learn to be much more careful.
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Don't get me wrong I'd rather have a 12 guage pump :) I noticed the other day though that the birds I did hit, I hit on the 1st shot. I figure I'll learn to be a better shot like this. Then I can move up to a $400 or $500 gun.
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They say Benelli is the best new shotgun being made. I myself however like brownings :c)
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I like my Mossberg pump 12 gauge. My only beef is the barrel, it can't shoot slugs w/o replacement. I shoulda done more research ahead of time.... but I still really like it.
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i would recomend the remington 870 pump. they come in fancy blued nice wood models to the plain jane parkerized like i bought in a pawnshop for $185. get the 3" mag version you will need it if you go duck, goose or turkey hunting. the 870 has been around since the 50s, not very many moving parts, and simple to take apart.
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Congrats! Get comforatable with it, then go buy something fancier/faster/etc.
Also depends on what you want to do with it. For a lot of things, it's hard not to beat some of the smoking deals down at WalMart.
:)
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Academy has a Mossberg 12g pump for $129 brand new. That's probably what I'll shoot next year, or possibly this year if I get to do much/any quail hunting.
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Bravo on Brownings Yucca! They're super duper.
I use a Remington 11-87...lots of accessories and very accurate with a rifled slug barrel. Use it for Deer, Turkey, Dove, Waterfowl, Upland, Trap, Skeet...name it.
My 'fun gun' is a Mossberg 500 .20 gauge pump that has such a smooth action I can shoot double double's (yep double doubles) on a skeet range. It's got a skeet barrel (Uber-Improved Cylinder) on it and is much fun. Kicks like a mule though, I remember being a youngin' at 8 years old shooting at geese, I decided I'd be macho and not stand up. Raised my gun to about 80 degrees, fired, boom...promptly placed on my butt when my 5 gallon bucket tipped over with me on it. I've fired Benelli pumps and they're great guns, good pumps. They have dual slides so everything is smooth...and nothing 'clanks' around as you would expect with a high end piece of equipment with a high end price. No complaints about the Mossberg, very reliable and easy to disassemble and clean. Same with the Remington 11-87, slightly more complex being a semi-auto but still simple enough. Stay safe, have a good hunt!
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Do yourself a REAL BIG FAVOR.
Play around with your single shot and get familar with shooting.
Then find someone in your area that has a "Try Gun" with a fully adjustable stock. A good Gun Club, Shooting School or an expensive Gun Shop will probably help you out for less than $100 or so.
Let this person do a preliminary measurement in the shop. Then go with this person to a range and shoot at a pattern board while he adjusts the stock. After that, shoot a round or two of clay with him watching an adjusting.
WRITE DOWN the measurements he gives you.
Pour through the catalogs and find a gun as close a possible to your measurements.
Key Measurements: Length of Pull, Drop at Comb, Drop at Heel, Cast On/Cast Off.
Read THIS and then get measured. Believe me, it will save you a lot of money and make shotgunning much more fun if you get the fit right "from the get go".
THE FIT OF A GUN (http://members.aye.net/~bspen/fit.html)
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Originally posted by Dune
For a lot of things, it's hard not to beat some of the smoking deals down at WalMart.
:)
Seriously? WallMart doesn't really sell guns does it?
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'Course they do, Cuz. This is 'Merica.
Sam Walton was a big-time quail hunter.
The "Old Roy" on Wal-Mart's dog food was his birddog.
Wal-Mart sells guns and ammo at good prices, but as usual it's the "mainstream" stuff that sells at high volume.
Like the Remington 870 Express. Perfectly good gun, high volume, mass market item. Problem is, it doesn't fit worth a hoot for quite a few people, mostly because of drop at comb.
But if it fits you, there's just about no better place to get one.
BTW, about to send ya a mail on the grill.
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Well with a single shot, you always know what you have in for a load....a few years ago we were deer hunting and on my friends suggestion, with my mossberg pump, had double odd buck and 2 inch slugs in alternating loads...made for a damn heavy gun too.
After an unsuccessful deer hunt, we passed thru a field and a few game birds would pop up as we waifed thru. Thinking I still had double odd buck chambered, a patridge jumped a few feet ahead of me and I raised and fired. Feathers everywhere. It was like a SAM strike on a chicken. I whacked that poor think with the 2 inch slug (more like "mortar")...not that the double odd would've left much more.
My favorite single-shot guns are the .22 match rifles. Im real good with those, was in the championships in high school...back when "rifle teams" were allowed.
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Originally posted by Toad
BTW, about to send ya a mail on the grill.
Sweeeeeeeet.
I've promised Geoffrey Bird a sampling of Kansas City BBQ ribs as he says he makes the best ribs on the island. I'm hoping to knock him down to #2. ;)
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Originally posted by Toad
Wal-Mart sells guns and ammo at good prices, but as usual it's the "mainstream" stuff that sells at high volume.
In fact, this was the source of some controversy recently in a new "planned community" neighborhood that is/was being built (new communities are still being built off this main feeder community). Seems that WalMart saw the growth potential in the new community and put up a Super WalMart to serve all those new young families moving into the new homes. Then the community planners were pleased to announce that the new school had been completed and was ready to start accepting new students for the school year. Everything was falling into place nicely.
Until someone pointed out that WalMart sells guns, and WalMart was really, really close to the school. In the post-Colombine hysteria, people started protesting the selling of guns by WalMart at that particular location.
I'm not sure what the outcome was, but it made local headlines for a couple of days.
(edit: Found a message board discussing this one. Seems that the Wal-Mart agreed not to sell guns at that particular location. See http://www.packing.org/news/article.jsp/2398 . I took a peek at the NRA-ILA site but couldn't find anything current. Personally, I think the concern was unfounded.)
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WalMart has "agreed" to not sell guns in a few places. I do believe the majority of their stores carry rifles and shotguns. I don't believe any sell pistols though.
And you can get some nice prices on guns like Remington 870's, Weatherby Vanguards, and Winchester M70 SuperShadows. None are top of the line models, but would serve a hunter pretty well.
I use a Browning Superposed 20ga. for my bird hunting (dove, quail and pheasant). However, if I ever get into duck hunting I'll probably just head down to WallyWorld and get a 3 1/2in mag 870 with a synthetic stock. Pretty upland game birds are works of art. Pretty duck guns are silly.
:D
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The first shotgun I used was a 12 gauge Johnson. The old ones with the hammer. It used to be my grandfather's.
Then for my 10th birthday I got one of those Beretta featherweight 20 gauges. The ones that fold in half.
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My first shotgun that I shared with my brothers was a bolt-acton 20 ga Mossberg.
I didn't start knocking down pheasants until I got an autoloader, (and a good dog) because I always choked on the first shot, I guess from thinking about how long it takes to rack in another round.
To me, a single shot shotgun is for expert shots.
I can tell you one thing for sure. If you are good at hitting birds, you will be good in AH, as far as shooting.
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I also have a very old black power 12 gauge :) Kinda neat but i wouldn't shoot it if you payed me lol.
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Originally posted by LePaul
It was like a SAM strike on a chicken.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Dangit...taco bell everywhere...warn a guy will ya?!
I bought my first Browning about 10 years ago, a single action 9mm. The accuracy was incredible. It looked so lonely in my closet I bought a safe for it. The safe was much too big for it so I soon brought home a rifle and shotgun to keep it company. I did buy a Mossburg though, for home defense, but it just didn't look right. After adding a pistol grip stock, shell clip and a flashlight mount it looks great. :D I love the way it shoots and thanks to a friend showing me the way I can empty it faster than a semi-auto.
My kids had single shot .22's when they started out. An excellent choice for a first gun.
Good luck with yours.
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Congrats Udie: Time to start doin Skeets :)
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if you have the money it's pretty hard to beat a nice barretta O/U.
right now I have an old winchester pump that I picked up cheap, it shoots fine and the price was right ($60, right place at the right time).
after I get the kids out of the house I'm probably gonna get a barretta fit for me and start shooting trap again.
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Originally posted by bigsky
i would recomend the remington 870 pump.
Great gun there....as is the 11-87 model.
I had a chance a few years ago to pick up a very nice clean Browning Citori over/under at a pawn shop for about $200 and passed it up because I dont shoot much anymore. I should have just bought the damn thing....I miss shooting.
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Never bought a shotgun, but the first one I ever hunted with was my Dad's double barrel 12 gauge Stevens. He let me practice with it when I was 12, and man that thing kicked like a mule. That gun still kicks...it hurts my shoulder to fire buckshot out of it.
Hunted quail after the deer hunts were over when I was a kid. Would go back to where the drivers had flushed coveys earlier during the deer hunt. Had a nice Ithaca Featherlight auto 12 gauge (modified choke). After the deer hunt, it was quail and squirrels for me.
Udie, be careful about firing slugs from that shotgun, i.e. don't do it. As someone said earlier, some shotguns aren't made for 'em.
Les
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If you're going to learn to shoot you should start with a single shot, but it needs to be .410
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This is strictly a bird/rabbit gun. The only shot I'll get for it will be #7 birdshot. Maybe a box of double ott buckshot for home protection, but I've seen what #7 shot does to a rabit at close range. #7 will do the job at 10ft range ;)