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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: nuchpatrick on October 03, 2003, 08:04:32 AM
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I think it's time someone took his wing's... before he hurts some one. He's 80 and still going strong but.. I think someone needs to take his key's away...
Updated: 03:19 AM EDT
Pilot Chuck Yeager Goes Off Runway
The Associated Press
CLAYTON, Ga. (Oct. 3) - A plane flown by famed test pilot Chuck Yeager went off a runway and into a ditch Thursday while taxiing after landing.
Yeager, 80, had a bump on his head but neither he nor his wife, Victoria, was seriously injured in the accident at Heaven's Landing, said Mike Ciochetti Jr., developer of the new community built around a small airport.
Chiochetti said Yeager's single-engine, two-seat military training plane was caught in a cross wind.
"He was embarrassed," Ciochetti said. "Other pilots were watching, and they were humbled - when something like this happens to the best."
Heaven's Landing is honoring Yeager and other World War II aces by naming its streets after them.
Yeager was the first pilot to break the sound barrier on Oct. 14, 1947, in a bullet-shaped Bell X-1 rocket plane over the Mojave Desert in California.
10/03/03 00:43 EDT
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Oh, I don't know. Crosswinds are tricky things. Sometimes even the best get bitten.
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
I think it's time someone took his wing's... before he hurts some one. He's 80 and still going strong but.. I think someone needs to take his key's away...
I'd rather have an 80 year old flying a cessna than an 80 year old driving a Lincoln on the interstate....
Oh wait....
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I thought his wife's name was Glennis?
Oh wait.....dug around some...she passed away from cancer in 1991
Don't mind me....I'm refilling the coffee cup now
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Seems to me that another pilots wings were clipped by the unsubstantiated opinion of a FAA observer. (ie Bob Hoover) nuchpatrick, you applying to the faa or something????
An off runway excursion can be caused by factors totally out of the pilots control. :rolleyes:
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You can't take his wings away. I know his age and I know the argument, but you cannot take his wings away. America owes him that much.
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Good thing there wasn't any type of Farmers Market near the runway....
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I'm not trying to put down Yeager. He's a great pilot don't get me wrong. I'm just saying he may not be as sharp as he use to.
Theres a difference between a cessna and his personal Jet Trainer (T-33 I beleive).
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If he's 80 but has still a minimum of reflexes and coordination, with all the flight time he's got... I'd rather fly with him than with someone who just got his license.
Daniel
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Right on cyrano
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Ya think she had her teeth out? I almost hit a overpass embankment once............I wasn't going to say stop! :D :D
Thorns
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We should definately apply different standards to people based on how famous they are or how much they've contributed to our country.
If someone fought in WWII, then they should be allowed to drive any way they want, even if they are blind.
This should apply to pilots too. Even if Chuck Yeager starts crashing into parked planes and doing accidental loops into terrain, we should continue to look the other way because he broke the sound barrier.
Did I sum up the above arguments correctly?
If so, I'd like some clarification on how big a contribution or sacrifice someone has to make to be exempt from the rules everyone else follows. Can this be applied retroactively to all those WWII vets that have lost their licenses due to unsafe driving?
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You took one comment out of the whole thread and had a piss fit with it .. is what you did. Chuck went off the runway due to a crosswind. If you show me evidence that every pilot this has happened to had his ticket pulled then your "counter-argument" may be worth a damn. ;)
Take a `lude, shuck the `tude and have a nice day. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
You took one comment out of the whole thread and had a piss fit with it .. is what you did.
Gezzz Arlo.. I didn't know were not aloud to voice our opinions here.... I'll remember that for future posts.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Gezzz Arlo.. I didn't know were not aloud to voice our opinions here.... I'll remember that for future posts.
:rolleyes:
Should I refer to you two as Nuchboy or Chairpatrick? Well ... either way ... anyone who thinks that they have a right to an opinion but others don't have a right to a differing one is a handsomehunk. :D :rofl
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
I think it's time someone took his wing's... before he hurts some one. He's 80 and still going strong but.. I think someone needs to take his key's away...
How many hours do you have?:rolleyes:
Ever had a bad cross wind?:rolleyes:
Thats what I thought:rolleyes:
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Hey his wife could have been working on his JOYSTICK:D
All kiding aside the man is an American hero I think he will know when its time to hang it up.
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You see Chairboy, there's a reason that a pilot that flies as much as Yeager does gets to celebrate 80 birthday parties.
A pilot that has flown all life regularly knows when he's apt to fly. He's not flying for a living anymore, just to have fun, and if he loses confidence in his own aptitudes, the fun is gone.
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**** happens...he'll do what he thinks is best...
he'd probably prefer to die in the cockpit than sitting at home telling people stories about his younger days...though at least HIS will be true
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People get old and their minds start to decay.
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Not if they're war heroes! Haven't you been reading the thread?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Not if they're war heroes! Haven't you been reading the thread?
More of it than you, dumba .... errr .... Chairpatrick. :D
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Chairboy Not if they're war heroes! Haven't you been reading the thread?
Chairboy I know that the question has already been asked but I would like it repeated:
How long have you been rated as a pilot ?
How many hours do you have in the type of the aircraft that Mr. Yeager was piloting at the time of incident ?
If you don't have any such experience, which I'm pretty sure the case is, how can you make any type of intelligent conclusion as to why the incident happened without any type of factual investigation of the afore mentioned ? From that snippet posted any number of factors may or may not have happened leading to the end result of the aircraft leaving the tarmac. These could be anything from a mechanical failure to a pilot failure, but then again nothing in that post alludes to anything other than the fact that Mr Yeager was the Pilot in Command. Once again we the public are left to assume that the 5th Estate has correctly protrayed events in the most accurate manner possible, unless gifted by such clairvoyant talents many apparently, such as yourself, posses and are able to discern facts that are not included in the original article. Might I suggest as to ask how and why you have come to the conclusion that age is the only factor, if it is in fact a factor, resulting in the aforementioned article ?
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Dang, nuch... When did you be come an expert FAA investigator?
Crosswinds can be a *****, even worse if they are gusty...
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Why pick on Yeager? Pick on those old geezers whose reflexes are so shot they drive their §$"$§! golfcarts through Sun Citys main streets at 10mph.
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Met yeager once. His jet landed at Reno, FBO when we landed our rotor to get fuel after a call. Got an autographed rental car pamphlet (only thing handy at the time...) He wasn't flying though, he had 2 pilots flying the jet, he and some friends were along for the ride...
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Hmm, lets see...he's 80 years old, and has made more freaking landings than most of us have had sex. Now the odds of one of you making your partner(hope it's female & human) pregnant because of a dumb move is a lot higher percentage than Gen. Yeager running off "another" runway again in the next 80 years. My money's on Chuck. :p
Thorns
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Originally posted by Thorns
Hmm, lets see...he's 80 years old, and has made more freaking landings than most of us have had sex.
I beg to differ on this one. :D
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Why pick on Yeager? Pick on those old geezers whose reflexes are so shot they drive their §$"$§! golfcarts through Sun Citys main streets at 10mph.
HAHA Pooh! I've had many a close calls otw to the grocery store. Whats funny is, they stare at you even if your windows are tinted...sensing young fresh bodies for supp....er never mind.
I used to live across the street from the hospital on the "young" side.
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I second what the seasoned pilots above have said. Until you have a sizeable amount of hours (i cant even begin to imagine how much yeager has at this point) there's no way you can accurately gauge his flying ability based solely on the fact he went off in a high crosswind.
thats like a 16 year old fresh outta driving school making a statement that any senior citizen who's run his car off the road in snow should have their license pulled.
i have a grandmother who at 95 is still a better driver then half the people i see on the road. she's fiercely independant, and if at that age she can be that good with a car i have no doubt in my mind yeager is ok with a plane, and he has 15 years on her.
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excuse me -when they pass out a drivers license to people who look like they are just breathing and pilots license to people because they pay enough and allow these people to keep them until they kill themselves and someone else, who has the right to say (when they dont know what happened) yeager shouldnt fly?
Odds of yeager flying his plane into my car are a lot less than the stupid person driving a 2 ton weapon.
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I flew with PH Spencer, the Sea Bee designer, when he was in his 90's. He showed me his licence, signed by Orville Wright. Soloed a 'loughead' (old spelling for Lockheed) sea plane in the 20's, with no dual time. He was still going strong then... age has nothing to do with it.
And,... I leave the runway everytime I take off. So what is the problem?
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Even out of context of the argument, that story was pretty cool, Holdy. "See Bee" not "Gee Bee?" I'm not familiar with the former.
(http://www.aerodyn.org/History/Gifs/gb-1.jpg)
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Just showing that old doesn't mean dangerous. Remember the saying about old pilot and bold pilots?
The Sea Bee was the plane that James Bond flew to the island in "The man with the Golden Gun."
Then the evil genious proved his incredible evilness by destroying the Sea Bee with his solar weapon.
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I bought my first car from henry ford
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I bought my first car from Gottlieb Daimler.
(http://www.lapcr.com/MB1.jpg)
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and arlo still drives it ----saw him on the xpress way the other day getting "pushed" on the front of a peterbuilt:p
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Originally posted by Thorns
Hmm, lets see...he's 80 years old, and has made more freaking landings than most of us have had sex.
Originally posted by AHGOD
I beg to differ on this one. :D
Your left or right hand does not qualify on this one. Your partner must be a person of the oposite sex, not coerced, drugged or drunk and of the same species............for a change. :p :rolleyes:
:rofl