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Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Kieran on October 07, 2003, 07:23:51 AM
:cool:
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: nuchpatrick on October 07, 2003, 07:29:20 AM
:(  All I have to say is that was a lame call by the reff on that final kick.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Krusher on October 07, 2003, 07:31:57 AM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
:(  All I have to say is that was a lame call by the reff on that final kick.


agreed, but Tampa should never have been in that position in the first place. They blew a big lead by being over confident.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 07, 2003, 07:38:45 AM
Just when I gave up on football as boring...  :eek:   Didnt see this game but what I read sounds amazing. :)
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Mini D on October 07, 2003, 07:46:48 AM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
:(  All I have to say is that was a lame call by the reff on that final kick.
That's what I thought until they read the rule from the rulebook.  I didn't even know that rule existed.

MiniD
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 07, 2003, 07:51:44 AM
I'm guessing Johnsons big mouth got TB in trouble again. :D  They had him mic'd up. He was dissing the Colts receiver  Harrison on the network...then at halftime the Colts staff played that short little clip for Harrison.  Talk about fired up 2nd half. :D
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Kieran on October 07, 2003, 08:07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Krusher
agreed, but Tampa should never have been in that position in the first place. They blew a big lead by being over confident.


Agreed, Krusher. Just told my daughter last night at her volleyball game one truism of sports is to never let a game get to the place where a ref can decide it. Tampa was up 21 points with 4 minutes to go; it should never have gotten so out of hand they could lose. Hats off to TB's coach to not blame the ref, Gruden's a class act.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Raubvogel on October 07, 2003, 09:15:57 AM
Keyshawn Johnson is one of the most overrated blowhards in football. As much as he talks, you would think he was one of the top 5 or 6 receivers in football, but I can think of at least 10 (and probably more) receivers I'd rather have than him.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 07, 2003, 09:16:33 AM
Eagler, you okay this morning? :D
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: DiabloTX on October 07, 2003, 09:31:36 AM
I was flipping between MNF and the BoSox and A's.  When it became 21- nil I quit flipping.  After the BoSox win I left the house.  Now I wake up and find out Indy came back and WON????????  


THI5 WAS THE B3ST W33KEND EVAR FOR SPORT5!!!!!!
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Makarov9 on October 07, 2003, 10:00:19 AM
Whoo hoo! Go Colts and Panthers! Being a Saints fan having nothing to cheer about, it's good to see two Louisiana QB's doing well in the NFL.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: SunKing on October 07, 2003, 10:03:59 AM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
:(  All I have to say is that was a lame call by the reff on that final kick.



Regardless they woulda still scored.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: john9001 on October 07, 2003, 10:46:35 AM
opps, you missed your field goal, here, let me call a foul so you can kick again........can you say WWF.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Eagler on October 07, 2003, 10:49:24 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Eagler, you okay this morning? :D


four hours sleep :)

I think it was about karma - Dungee finally getting his against the owners that cut him with a year left on his contract

the last call didn't matter, brad ( i scramble worse than Moses) johnson wouldn't have moved the ball, the colts smelled blood

Heard the bucs are trying out the old orange and white uniforms this morning ..
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Kieran on October 07, 2003, 11:01:28 AM
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Originally posted by john9001
opps, you missed your field goal, here, let me call a foul so you can kick again........can you say WWF.


I'd agree if you could account for 21 points in 4 minutes of the fourth quarter. ;)
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Scootter on October 07, 2003, 11:13:59 AM
World's 167th bigest Buc fan here, fell off to sleep at the start of the 3rd (happy).

 This morning I flipped out, must have been a hoot in the 4th.

I missed a good game, all I can say is crap crap, and WTG Colts (darn it)

:( ;)
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Gloves on October 07, 2003, 12:00:28 PM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
:(  All I have to say is that was a lame call by the reff on that final kick.


"Rule 12, section three, article two calls for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on a player "clearly running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or try-kick after touchdown and landing on players unless the leaping player was originally lined up within one yard of the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped."

Bad rule maybe, but right call based on that rule.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: FUNKED1 on October 07, 2003, 12:17:15 PM
I guess it's karma or something.  Raiders and A's choked, so something good had to happen somewhere.  :)
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Eagler on October 07, 2003, 12:55:20 PM
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Originally posted by Gloves
"Rule 12, section three, article two calls for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on a player "clearly running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or try-kick after touchdown and landing on players unless the leaping player was originally lined up within one yard of the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped."

Bad rule maybe, but right call based on that rule.


a flag could be thrown on at least 90% of all field goal attempts if they wanted to with that "unkown b4 last night rule"

didn't matter - the bucs laid down and rolled over in the 4th ..
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: DiabloTX on October 07, 2003, 12:58:01 PM
Actually, its a very good rule and I have known about it for quite a while.  It is designed to prevent any kind of attempt to "stack" players on top of each other to block a kick.  There was one specific game where a player actually climbed another to block a kick, or something to that affect, that instituted this rule.  It is strict for a reason.
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Cougar68 on October 07, 2003, 01:25:05 PM
If I remember it right, one of the Bucs players fell back underneath the guy that was leaping.  He didn't run and then jump on to the pile.  Bad call IMO.

Cougar
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Dago on October 07, 2003, 01:53:50 PM
What about the guy falling down by the kicker, and then the kicker falls on him to get a penalty called?


dago
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Cougar68 on October 07, 2003, 02:15:08 PM
That was a questionable call as well.  However, I can see how at full speed it would look like the guy rolled into the punters legs.  I think calls like that, as well as roughing the passer calls, have to err in favor of protecting the players.  After looking at the replay it was a bad call, but not near as bad as the leaping one.  

Cougar
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Mini D on October 07, 2003, 02:20:01 PM
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Originally posted by Cougar68
That was a questionable call as well.  However, I can see how at full speed it would look like the guy rolled into the punters legs.  I think calls like that, as well as roughing the passer calls, have to err in favor of protecting the players.  After looking at the replay it was a bad call, but not near as bad as the leaping one.  

Cougar
Odd... so a questionable call is where the fould didn't really happen... but might have appeared to happen.  I can accept that.

But... a foul that clearly meets every criteria called out in the rule books is called and somehow that is worse?

Gotcha.

The foul was a good call.  He threw the flag before the ball was halfway to the goal post (made or missed not known).  It really is time to get over it and start adressing the real problem: 21 points in 4 minutes.

MiniD
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Cougar68 on October 07, 2003, 02:58:12 PM
If you just look at the letter of the rule it was the right call, but if you look at the INTENT of the rule it was horrible.  The rule is to prevent players from either leaping off a teammate to gain height, and also to prevent someone from running towards the line of scrimmage and leaping over the pile to make the block.  Rice went into the air and a teammate fell back into him.  

As far as the running into the punter foul, if you look at the letter of the rule that was a good call as well.  The player made contact with the punters leg and was not blocked into him.  However, I still say it was questionable after seeing the replay since it wasn't significant contact, just a great acting job.  

21 points in 4 minutes is a huge problem without a doubt.  It's still my opinion that the officials stepped over the bounds and decided the game.  Who knows what would've happened after the missed field goal.

Cougar
Title: great rule ..
Post by: Eagler on October 07, 2003, 03:15:42 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Actually, its a very good rule and I have known about it for quite a while.  It is designed to prevent any kind of attempt to "stack" players on top of each other to block a kick.  There was one specific game where a player actually climbed another to block a kick, or something to that affect, that instituted this rule.  It is strict for a reason.


I can see why they call it all the time...

otherwise we'd have this at every field goal attempt :rolleyes:
(http://www.joyfulnoise.net/Images/ChinaTour2.Pic162.jpg)
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Ripsnort on October 07, 2003, 03:18:43 PM
This game may have passed up the Dallas Cowboys 21 point comback in 6 mins. with Staubach at the helm back in the 70's. (If you remember that game like I do, then you're an old fart :) ) They're already calling it the greatest comeback in NFL history.
Title: Re: great rule ..
Post by: DiabloTX on October 07, 2003, 04:00:37 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
I can see why they call it all the time...

otherwise we'd have this at every field goal attempt :rolleyes:
(http://www.joyfulnoise.net/Images/ChinaTour2.Pic162.jpg)


Well, yeah, if you take it to the nth degree....:rolleyes:
Title: How 'bout those Colts?
Post by: Kieran on October 07, 2003, 04:39:51 PM
My goodness, 21 points in 4 minutes decided the game, not the ref.