Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on October 08, 2003, 04:44:50 PM
-
And please stick to the facts.
-
you dont want to make history by electing first female pres...
-
Originally posted by vorticon
shes a girl and you dont want to make history...
huh?
-
Paraphrasing Sir Edmund Hillary,
"Because she is there."
-
Hate her because she's a smart, powerful female. I'm no democrat, and no fan of Bill Clinton, but as far as I can tell, most people who dislike her are just a teensy bit threatened by the fact that she doesn't restrict herself to wearing dresses, prance around petting puppies, and writing books about her dog.
-
You should not hate her....perhaps not support her run for the Presidency.
Now, you tell me why I should vote for her to be President.
-
BECUASE I DO! isnt that reason enough?:D
-
Originally posted by Rude
You should not hate her....perhaps not support her run for the Presidency.
Now, you tell me why I should vote for her to be President.
Rude, she would have to be actually running for the office. The filing with the FEC is a bogus deal.
Why do some people hate (and I use that word in it's most literal meaning) Hillary? The same reason they hate women that are smarter and more successful than they are...fear of making them look bad. It's the old "Barefoot and Pregnant" scenario.
-
Originally posted by rpm371
Rude, she would have to be actually running for the office. The filing with the FEC is a bogus deal.
Why do some people hate (and I use that word in it's most literal meaning) Hillary? The same reason they hate women that are smarter and more successful than they are...fear of making them look bad. It's the old "Barefoot and Pregnant" scenario.
you can't be serious. This is just silly.
-
Originally posted by mietla
you can't be serious. This is just silly.
No one as offered an alternative.
-
Oh no Mr. Rude... nice try on that Hijack, but I'm not biting.
So all you Hillary haters have no real reason for it?
Come on. Educate me on the she-devil herself.
-
Remember that shooting in NYC when she called those cops murderers? It was a villainous attempt to incite rage and an insidious one to ingratiate herself with minorities.
My wife tells me I'm not allowed to hate so maybe vituperate is better. Always wanted to use that word. ;)
-
Main Entry: vi·tu·per·ate
Pronunciation: vI-'tü-p&-"rAt, v&-, -'tyü-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing
Etymology: Latin vituperatus, past participle of vituperare, from vitium fault + parare to make, prepare -- more at PARE
Date: 1542
transitive senses : to abuse or censure severely or abusively : BERATE
intransitive senses : to use harsh condemnatory language
synonym see SCOLD
- vi·tu·per·a·tor /-"rA-t&r/ noun
-
For me it is not hate, it is a disagreement on issues.
She tends to see government as the answer more than I do, I tend to see government as a problem more than she does.
Case in point, her advocacy of a federal healthcare system. I believe a socialized healthcare system to be an anathema to all that is good and it would be a boondoggle that would cause the immediate downfall of American civilization.
She wrongfully saw it as a panacea.
-
Originally posted by AKIron
Remember that shooting in NYC when she called those cops murderers? It was a villainous attempt to incite rage and an insidious one to ingratiate herself with minorities.
My wife tells me I'm not allowed to hate so maybe vituperate is better. Always wanted to use that word. ;)
vituperate - to abuse or censure severely or abusively
Searched for this Hillary quote... lots of people saying she said "murderer", but no quote in any kind of context. Here is the one Hillary statement I could find on the Police shooting in NY.
I would like to add my voice and influence to those who are attempting to bridge the divide between police officers, who have a difficult and dangerous job of fighting crime, and the people in the neighborhoods who feel they are treated unfairly and disrepectfully.
The Louima and Diallo cases were not just horrific, but symptomatic of problems in the city’s overall approach to policing. The real challenge is to to adjust the approach-change the climate so that policing is both effective and respectful. There is also a need to for the police to engage the law-abiding members of the community,thus making them a part of the overall plan. In so many communities, no institution has more influence than the neighborhood church, mosque, or synagogue. We must tap into this potential in New York.
Not bad
-
I don't agree with her politics, her morals or her style, but the reason I hate her is for her cankles.
-
becuz she married BILL CLINTON, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE lolololo
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
vituperate - to abuse or censure severely or abusively
Searched for this Hillary quote... lots of people saying she said "murderer", but no quote in any kind of context. Here is the one Hillary statement I could find on the Police shooting in NY.
Not bad
She apologized for saying it. I'll find it, you need to get a new search engine MT. :p
-
Originally posted by Erlkonig
becuz she married BILL CLINTON, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE lolololo
More so, she didn't divorce the sonofa***** after the umpteenth affair...and the fact that she just used him as a vehicle to become a senator.
Did you see the scowl on her face during Bushs address to the nation after 9/11?
How about her not responding to the police officers getting spit on during one of her rallys as they carried the flag up the isle?
-
How about this:
--Hillary Rodham Clinton made a speech on Martin Luther King Day on a dais with numerous figures including Reverend Al Sharpton and two former mayors of the City of New York. Mrs. Clinton was reported in the newspapers of New York to have referred to the police shooting of Amadou Diallo as "the tragic murder of Mr. Diallo".
http://www.nycop.com/Stories/Feb_00/Diallo_Commentary/body_diallo_commentary.html
Like I said before, she did apologize for saying it, but only 27 days later and much public resentment and outcry.
-
Heres how I see it:
Latest example of absolute failure: Bill Clinton makes a snafu appearance for Gray Daivs and the Party of Clinton is handed another smack-down from a guy that hasnt even served on a bake sale commitee and has fondled the breasts of half the women in the golden state of Kal-i-fornia.
And Bill is married to who? Or I should say, and who is STILL married to that L-O-S-E-R, Bubba?........
Hillary is a sad pathetic joke and the democratic party, the party of Bill Clinton, the dog party that deserted the working american in favour of all the miscreants, malcontents and yellow stamped REJECTs this nation has allowed to breed, deserves those two losers.
So yeah, go ahead and vote for them.
-
Originally posted by Yeager
Heres how I see it:
Latest example of absolute failure: Bill Clinton makes a snafu appearance for Gray Daivs and the Party of Clinton is handed another smack-down from a guy that hasnt even served on a bake sale commitee and has fondled the breasts of half the women in the golden state of Kal-i-fornia.
And Bill is married to who? Or I should say, and who is STILL married to that L-O-S-E-R, Bubba?........
Hillary is a sad pathetic joke and the democratic party, the party of Bill Clinton, the dog party that deserted the working american in favour of all the miscreants, malcontents and yellow stamped REJECTs this nation has allowed to breed, deserves those two losers.
So yeah, go ahead and vote for them.
Way to stick to the facts there Yeager.....
-
Because I have not heard her say anything that would make me want to vote for her.(not alot of politicians do these days)
-
give it up gut. your just trolling anyway. You would likely skip right over Jesus H. Christ to cast your vote for billary As Savior if you had the option.
Besides, Ive seen the facts, as you request, twisted abused contorted and turned into half truths and outright lies by hacks from all spectrums of political thought in this country. Just figure out where your head is at and vote, for better or for worse.
-
Call it trolling if you like. Never once asked about VOTING for her. I want to know why she is so hated.
So far all I have is a misused word during a speach. Enough to question her intent? Maybe? Enough to hate her... hardly.
-
Why do I hate hillary?
She gives me the impression of someone that stayed married simply to advance her political carreer. A marriage that was wrought with scandal before even entering the presidency went from bad to worse... but Hillary stuck with someone for one simple reason: Politics.
She then proceeded to use the same "take a popular oppinion poll and then state your oppinion" philosophy that her husband used all of the way through his presidency. This was painfully obvious at her inaugeration ceremony where she proclaimed that one of her first tasks would be to "GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!"... which she said with great enthusiasm and was met with dead silence. She hasn't mentioned it again since.
Her politics are suprifulous. Her association with Bill is suspicious. Her antics are embarrassing (policeman's ball, being at ground zero) given her previous history and statements.
That's why I hate her. You can go ahead and argue the points all you want. You'll be arguing against what I've witnessed with my own to eyes and heard with my own two ears. The woman is a class a ****heal and will never get a single word of support from me.
MiniD
-
Originally posted by AKIron
How about this:
--Hillary Rodham Clinton made a speech on Martin Luther King Day on a dais with numerous figures including Reverend Al Sharpton and two former mayors of the City of New York. Mrs. Clinton was reported in the newspapers of New York to have referred to the police shooting of Amadou Diallo as "the tragic murder of Mr. Diallo".
http://www.nycop.com/Stories/Feb_00/Diallo_Commentary/body_diallo_commentary.html
Hmmm... this link refers to the newspaper stories but is not a first person account.
-
I don't hate anyone. You should do the same.
-
She stayed married? - uhhh what about those vaunted family values the republicans talk about sooooo much. I'm gonna tell Dr. Laura!
She stated an opinion re: the electoral college.... Oh yea! Thats grounds for damnation there.
She went to ground zero.... as a Senator from the State that was attacked... scandalous!
Come on! No one has come up with anything substantial... whats the deal?
-
Originally posted by Mini D
Why do I hate hillary?
She gives me the impression of someone that stayed married simply to advance her political carreer. A marriage that was wrought with scandal before even entering the presidency went from bad to worse... but Hillary stuck with someone for one simple reason: Politics.
MiniD
Alot of people stay married for different reasons Mini, I see it alot at work. Some for financial reasons, some for the children, some for the family as a whole, their faith. I give them credit for sticking to their guns. They swore in all they believe in at the altar, some stick to it. That's no reason to hold it against them.
Do I hate hillary?...no. Do I like Hillary?...I don't know her enough to like her. I do admire her for her strength , but not as a politician.
-
Originally posted by Sixpence
Alot of people stay married for different reasons Mini, I see it alot at work. Some for financial reasons, some for the children, some for the family as a whole, their faith. I give them credit for sticking to their guns. They swore in all they believe in at the altar, some stick to it. That's no reason to hold it against them.
I'm sorry... do those people you know at work currently have a chance at the presidency?
It does matter.
MiniD
-
She is anti gun.
-
the dog party that deserted the working american in favour of all the miscreants, malcontents and yellow stamped REJECTs this nation has allowed to breed, deserves those two losers.
you are my Favorite Rightwinger yeager
strk
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
She stayed married? - uhhh what about those vaunted family values the republicans talk about sooooo much. I'm gonna tell Dr. Laura!
They involve alot of things you wouldn't understand MT. Things like adressing infidelity with a response other than "WHY CAN'T YOU KEEP IT IN YOU PANTS! DO YOU REALIZE HOW BAD YOU'RE MAKING US LOOK! MY POLITICAL CAREER MIGHT BE OVER!!"She stated an opinion re: the electoral college.... Oh yea! Thats grounds for damnation there.
It wasn't an oppinion... it was said as a pledge. An oppinion is "I don't like the electoral college". A pledge is "My first act is to get rid of that electoral college." Something she has not followed up on in the least because of all the throat clearing that occured right after she said it. Just who's oppinion was it she wash pledging to uphold?
She went to ground zero.... as a Senator from the State that was attacked... scandalous!
Not that she went... her desire to be in the congo line of congradulating the firemen and police officers there. Few of whom would acknowledge her. Her caring for the individuals she belittled was quite touching.Come on! No one has come up with anything substantial... whats the deal?
Nah... nothing will meet your aproval MT. You see... I'm not going to convince you you are stupid for starting this thread. But if I can convince someone else....
MiniD
-
Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Hmmm... this link refers to the newspaper stories but is not a first person account.
That's true yet widely enough publicized that took a lot of flak. And she didn't deny it but rather apologized. What else do we have but newspapers and television to know what's going on that we can't observe ourselves? Do I believe she said that, yes, do you?
-
is this the dude they accidently shot 41 times? dang she called them murderers. the horror.
-
Don't hate her. As has been said, don't hate any one.
I don't want her as president for a number of reasons.
1. I don't trust her. - that's the biggest reason right there.
2. What she tried to do by nationalizing our healthcare system back in 93. Though this did help lead to the Republican congress and the first ballanced budget in my lifetime.
3a. Her obstruction of justice in the white water hearings. Files can't be found for 2 years then all of a sudden turn up in her office.
3b. ALL the coinsidences in their terms in office when they were busted breaking rules or laws. Too many to name and I've forgotten many of them I'm sure.
4. She's hungry for power pure and simple. That's my opinion, but it's my opinion. She knew she'd never be elected to the senate from her home state. So she buys a house (with who's money?) in NY. Never lived there a day in her life, but HEY! she's going to represent ALL of the people there right? Yeah, I'm sure that's the top priority on her agenda.
5. Prior to her election to the Senate I can't actually put my finger on anything she's actually done, anything positive anyway.
6. Many more reasons but they will just be ignored too so I'll save myself some time and leave the list at 6 reasons. :D
7. She's a Democrat
ok 7 reasons :D
-
Originally posted by AKIron
That's true yet widely enough publicized that took a lot of flak. And she didn't deny it but rather apologized. What else do we have but newspapers and television to know what's going on that we can't observe ourselves? Do I believe she said that, yes, do you?
Anybody remember the Paul McCartney concert at Madison Square Garden? The tribute to the firemen/police? There was a reason they boo'd her, a damn good one too.
-
Originally posted by lord dolf vader
is this the dude they accidently shot 41 times? dang she called them murderers. the horror.
No horror, just contempt and revulsion. If she runs she'll no doubt get your vote. That makes at least 2 or 3.
-
I agree with MiniD... you aren't about to change your mind, what's the point of playing?
She's a socialist in politics.
She's a blatant opportunist- one moment against the police, the next showing "support"... whatever wins the most votes.
She's insincere... didn't you love her wearing a Yankees' cap and stating "I've always been a Yankees fan!" Yeah, right. Beautiful shot of her shopping for groceries in her newfound neighborhood in New York... like she would ever stoop to shopping.
She was involved in the FBI file scandal.
She was guilty as hell in the Whitewater investment scam. Got off, but guilty.
She has always held contempt for the military.
She blathered leftist underground rhetoric... "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"... chuckle.... yeah, Clinton didn't do ANY of that stuff he was accused of.... hehe...
No, I can't think of a single thing to recommend her.
AND BTW... way to turn the argument to "Strong Female Figure Fear". LOL! Leave it to a lefty to fall back on the "bigot, racist, chauvinist" rebuttal...
-
Originally posted by AKIron
That's true yet widely enough publicized that took a lot of flak. And she didn't deny it but rather apologized. What else do we have but newspapers and television to know what's going on that we can't observe ourselves? Do I believe she said that, yes, do you?
There's the rub... I've searched for a bit and can't find a single online newspaper that has the story.
-
Hate is an emotion, it requires no facts to bolster it.
-
What, you didn't like the one I posted? OK, so it is a magazine, I'll do a search for ya. You and MT oughta take a computer class or something. ;)
-
Many Americans see her as a smug, condescending, arrogant and cynical politician. She just doesn't resonate with average Americans.
I personally took an immediate dislike to her when started trying to steer the public agenda as the President's wife when she hadn't received a single vote from anyone!
She's a cynical, self serving Baitch -
MT, tell me why I should love Hillary Clinton!
-
Originally posted by Kieran
AND BTW... way to turn the argument to "Strong Female Figure Fear". LOL! Leave it to a lefty to fall back on the "bigot, racist, chauvinist" rebuttal...
and not understand that is a bigotted stance to take....
-
Originally posted by AKIron
What, you didn't like the one I posted? OK, so it is a magazine, I'll do a search for ya. You and MT oughta take a computer class or something. ;)
It's an online mag that talks about a story found in New York newspapers... no references, no bibliography, just that little blurb... not a lot to go on...
I'm not saying it's untrue. I'm just having trouble finding one of these New York papers...
-
Having never met the woman I have no opinion on her.
Other that she is a democrate and I am repuplican.
-
Forgotten Facts
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a black man named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was a fellow Panther suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Safely immobilized his "friends" tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him. When they got tired of torturing Rackley Black Panther member Warren Kimbro took Mr.. Rackley's outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackleys body was found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn.
Maybe at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers. Well, in 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard. He later became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College.
Isn't that something? As a 60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head, and years later, in the same State, you can be an assistant college dean! Only in America! Ericka Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr.. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California school board.
How in the world do you think that these killers got off so easy?
Well, maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial. One of those people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee or Lan Lee as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California school board. He is the head of the U.S. Justice Departments Civil Rights Division. Lee is serving in that capacity illegally, by the way, but that's another story...another part of the Clinton saga of ignoring the rule of law.
O.K., so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? Nope, neither. The other Panther defender as, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at that time. Self proclaimed, she is now known as "The Smartest Woman in the World". She is none other than the unofficial Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate from the State of New York ---- our lovely First Lady, the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton.
-
What Udie and Kieren said.
And did I mention that she was rabidly anti-gun?
-
Actually my above post is not entirely true I pulled it off of here (http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/hillary.html) sorry for the dissinformation.
I see this woman and I see hatred for the US military and hatred for law abiding gun owners. I see a woman who would rather have her political agenda pushed forward despite the consequences. I really dont like her at all. I'd like to quote one of the NYFD fireman at a WTC ralley: "she needs to shut her clap trap up"
-
I have never even tried to hide my disgust for this woman. Her first act when her loathsome husband was elected was to fire the Whitehouse travel staff. Forget that? Do you remember any reason behind her terminating people from their employment?
I personally find that act alone appalling. To fire someone is to fire their family, to steal their self-respect and embarrass them in front of family and friends. Hillary did this to people for no known reason ever given that I know of.
She has always chosen to pursue her ambitions, follow her greed and exhibit a total lack of integrity in all her dealings. She went from "life long Cubs fan" to "life long Yankees fan" when it suited her political agenda. Someone can say this is a minor thing, but I think it is just a small example of her lack of integrity and opportunism.
Can anyone tell me just what has she done in a positive way? How has she improved the country? When has she actually acted out of passion and selflessness, rather than greed and desire for power and control?
Why did she write a book detailing her husbands faults??? Did she need money that bad as to embarrass him further than he did himself? Maybe she just wanted more attention for herself? Probably.
There are plenty of instances of her behavior easily accessible to anyone that wants to look for them. I have an opinion. I am just as entitled to it as anyone else is to an opposing opinion. I do not like or respect Hillary Clinton. I hate her even worse than I disliked her husband, that most embarrassing President our country ever seated.
dago
-
Oh Gees were do I begin. This is like a fastball down the middle.
Well Gunslinger just jacked one out, now on deck...
After Bill lost an early congressional race in Arkansas, Hillary had called campaign worker Paul Fray a "F***ing Jew bastard." State trooper Larry patterson, who claimed that the clintons in anger would call each other "Jew bastard" and "jew m***rf***r"
Lets not forget Hillarys loving kiss of Suha Arafat, wife of Yasir Arafat, moments after the lovely and charming first lady of Palestine liberation Army charged Israelis with using poison gas on Palestine.
Viacom conglomerate controls paramount Pictures CBS Television, MTV, UPN and Blockbuster video. They are lobbing hard for new federal regulation on ownership of stations that reach more than 35% of the US households....They also own. You guessed it SIMON and SCHUSTER...that’s right the same publisher whom gave Senator Clinton $8 million advance. Of which she never ran by the Senate ethics committed. Which she was required to do. But why fallow laws/rules now, she never did when she was FLOTUS.
Why was Hillary’s close friend Vince Forster in position of NSA files. Never before had someone in that position had access to these files. He is found dead in a park under suspicious circumstances, the highest-ranking member of the executive branch to die since JFK. Has Hillary ever answered a single question about this. NO
How about the travel office of the white house. Hillary anted her own people in place, she couldn't fire him so she accused him of embezzlement. He was acquitted of course.
How did the former nightclub bouncer named Craig Livingston managed to procure massive numbers of sensitive FBI files on key Republicans?
How about the peoples dime she's working off of. Hillary’s office on the upper east side of Manhattan will cost taxpayers in excess of $514,148 per year, $90,000 more than the Senate's next highest office, the San Francisco offices of Dianne Feinstien. The tab is more then double the amount paid by Hillary's fellow Democrat and New York senator, Charles Schumer, whose office are in the same neighborhood. His is $209,532 a year, and is only 3,900 square feet, while Hillary needs 7,900 square feet. It is 3 blocks from the UN building, and the famed Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. The office is on the 26th floor of the 50 story Third ave. building owned by Teachers Insurance Annuity Association (TIAA-CREF) this is the teachers pension found of the US.
Its got a 154 seat auditorium and to conference rooms. Completely done in peach-colored Finnish Granite.
I could get into LOOTING the White House but I'll save that story for another time.
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Forgotten Facts
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a black man named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was a fellow Panther suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Safely immobilized his "friends" tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him. When they got tired of torturing Rackley Black Panther member Warren Kimbro took Mr.. Rackley's outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackleys body was found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn.
Maybe at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers. Well, in 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard. He later became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College.
Isn't that something? As a 60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head, and years later, in the same State, you can be an assistant college dean! Only in America! Ericka Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr.. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California school board.
How in the world do you think that these killers got off so easy?
Well, maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial. One of those people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee or Lan Lee as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California school board. He is the head of the U.S. Justice Departments Civil Rights Division. Lee is serving in that capacity illegally, by the way, but that's another story...another part of the Clinton saga of ignoring the rule of law.
O.K., so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? Nope, neither. The other Panther defender as, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at that time. Self proclaimed, she is now known as "The Smartest Woman in the World". She is none other than the unofficial Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate from the State of New York ---- our lovely First Lady, the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton.
SNOPED (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/panthers.htm)
-
now this may be a rumor but I heard it from a good source:
I heard the clintons just built a HUGE new house in upstate NY. They pay $10k a month for the mortgage. Now i've also heard that they had to build a seperate guest houes for the secret service (they get protection for life)
Guess how much they charge the secret service for rent......give up....$10k
YUP we all are paying for the clintons new house....and you wonder why the librals dont like tax cuts
please prove me wrong if this is not true
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
now this may be a rumor but I heard it from a good source:
I heard the clintons just built a HUGE new house in upstate NY. They pay $10k a month for the mortgage. Now i've also heard that they had to build a seperate guest houes for the secret service (they get protection for life)
Guess how much they charge the secret service for rent......give up....$10k
YUP we all are paying for the clintons new house....and you wonder why the librals dont like tax cuts
please prove me wrong if this is not true
SNOPED AGAIN (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/landlord.htm)
-
Now, Sandman... Ol' Bill was planning on opening a huge upscale office in Manhattan on the public dime until the furor forced him to reveal he was actually planning to go to Harlem all along.
-
So far all I see is "I heard" or "A story I read somewhere" and "an Editorial said". The Government spent , what was it, 8 Billion dollars investigating the Clintons and found nothing more than Bill got a hummer.
She stayed with her husband? Sounds like good ol' Republican "Family Values" to me. She attended the 9/11 memorial and looked upset...what would you be saying if she DIDN'T attend and had a smile on her face? Apparently she can do nothing to please...isn't that bigotry?
People have been fed propoganda..Yes, propoganda..for so long they have it imbedded into their DNA. (We know this has to be a lie since the media is a tightly woven conspiricy designed to accomplish the Communist overthrow of America) Of course, when one of the "Good Guys and bastions of Truth" gets involved with not one but multiple scandals it's "all blown out of proportion and a pack of lies".
Is she squeeky clean? No. Is ANY politician? H*** No! Is she a smart, stong, independant, and successful woman? Yes.
Hillary is a sad pathetic joke and the democratic party, the party of Bill Clinton, the dog party that deserted the working american in favour of all the miscreants, malcontents and yellow stamped REJECTs this nation has allowed to breed, deserves those two losers.
Yeager, can you translate that back into the original German? Please, get back on the meds.
-
Originally posted by Kieran
Now, Sandman... Ol' Bill was planning on opening a huge upscale office in Manhattan on the public dime until the furor forced him to reveal he was actually planning to go to Harlem all along.
780 Third Avenue... The Wang Building. He changed his mind, I understand, after his wife decided to move her office there... but I don't recall making any posts about Mr. Clinton's office.
-
As if I ever needed any confirmation, this thread certainly seems to demonstrate that there's no shortage of lies and slander from the Repugnantcans when it comes to Hillary Clinton.
-
OK Sandman, from the AP (or at least attibuted to the AP):
http://www.crimelynx.com/hilldiallo.html
Maybe that'll put it to rest?
-
Originally posted by AKIron
OK Sandman, from the AP (or at least attibuted to the AP):
http://www.crimelynx.com/hilldiallo.html
Maybe that'll put it to rest?
Sure thing... thanks. How did you find it?
-
Did a search on google for "the tragic murder of Mr. Diallo" and jumped through a few links. Probably couldn't retrace my exact steps to save my life. :D Maybe I'd better bookmark that. ;)
-
Originally posted by AKIron
Did a search on google for "the tragic murder of Mr. Diallo" and jumped through a few links. Probably couldn't retrace my exact steps to save my life. :D Maybe I'd better bookmark that. ;)
LOL... it wasn't as easy as you thought. :D
-
Ya know it's interesting to note that I came up blank when I searched the archives of both the New York Times and the LA Times for the same thing. That is one of those things that make ya go hmmmmmm.
-
Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
LOL... it wasn't as easy as you thought. :D
Well, maybe that adds a bit of weight to the media is liberal debate? It took longer than I expected but only about 5-10 mins, was flying a bit ago.
-
Now isn't this interesting......
Personal attacks.... RE: Family Values - They involve alot of things you wouldn't understand MT.
<--- up yours Mini... this is completely uncalled for and frankly way beyond friendly jousting. If you knew me you would know why this pisses me off to the extent that it does. Since you don't I will let it pass at that.
Nah... nothing will meet your aproval MT. You see... I'm not going to convince you you are stupid for starting this thread. But if I can convince someone else....
Misquotes.. (hint-this wasn't me)
way to turn the argument to "Strong Female Figure Fear". LOL! Leave it to a lefty to fall back on the "bigot, racist, chauvinist" rebuttal...
Made up Stories... (Snoped by sandman.)
My favorite is when she does something kind, or patriotic... that really pisses you guys off because you juast KNOW she has an ulterior motive... you just KNOW it!
I mean how DARE she visit ground Zero after using the wrong word to describe the shooting of an innocent man... the shame!
Then there are the Inuendos... She was guilty as hell, but she got off..... HUH!?
There was a special prosecutor spending millions and taking years to investigate and he found....SQUAT! But you all just KNOW she's guilty... amazing.
More later... still waiting for a good reason.
-
Originally posted by AKIron
Well, maybe that adds a bit of weight to the media is liberal debate? It took longer than I expected but only about 5-10 mins, was flying a bit ago.
That or maybe it's a mountain out of a mole hill.
-
Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
That or maybe it's a mountain out of a mole hill.
I guess it's always easier to see the mote in another's eye.
-
Originally posted by AKIron
I guess it's always easier to see the mote in another's eye.
Not sure what you mean...
-
I mean it's easier to see everyone else's faults than your own. I'm not directing this at you for your statement but rather making an observation as to why so many of us see the same thing so often so differently.
-
Originally posted by AKIron
I mean it's easier to see everyone else's faults than your own. I'm not directing this at you for your statement but rather making an observation as to why so many of us see the same thing so often so differently.
I'm with ya...
WRT Hillary Clinton, I've never really considered her important enough to get angry about. I don't give a rat's bellybutton about the senators in Texas or Florida either...
-
what is it about this woman, Hillary Clinton, that seperates her from the regular schmuck liberal anyway? she smart?
rpm, you liked my free form but you didnt quote my Clinton comes to rescue Davis bit!
Let me H - E - L - P Y - O - U
====
Latest example of absolute failure: Bill Clinton makes a snafu appearance for Gray Daivs and the Party of Clinton is handed another smack-down from a guy that hasnt even served on a bake sale commitee and has fondled the breasts of half the women in the golden state of Kal-i-fornia.
And Bill is married to who? Or I should say, and who is STILL married to that L-O-S-E-R, Bubba?........
====
And what is it with you libs trying to credit parasite Hillary with some fine conservative values for staying attached to the monster host, Bill Clinton. You guys are in such a pathetic state of denial. No wonder your party of liberal destruction is in such terrible condition.
No doubt history will prove that the Clintons were the primary reason the democratic party imploded under the weight of immoral special interests and lost all wealth and power in the federal branches of government. And so it will be for twenty years until the Democrats return to the people.
:rofl
-
Well, Gunslinger has had both of his stories snoped, no comment from him yet.
I'm curious about the quality of his character. I suppose we will be enlightened in that regard the next time he posts.
-
Disclaimer:
I know it goes without saying but Im going to say it anyway:
Dont take anything I post in the O'Club with any level of sincerity :eek:
With regards to this SNOPED device: I read the SNOPE and my only reaction is that SNOPE is merely another spin on the truth, or lack thereof. Its all in how we as individuals slant the incoming data to fit our preconceived notions of what is...and what is not, disreagarding the intent of the source data.
Sincerely,
Yeager
-
Originally posted by Chairboy
Well, Gunslinger has had both of his stories snoped, no comment from him yet.
I'm curious about the quality of his character. I suppose we will be enlightened in that regard the next time he posts.
actually the first one I posted I included another reply with a link to urbanlegands.com sayin that I knew the story was fake...wanted to get a reaction....second one I wasnt sure of but had to out on a call so didnt have time to look it up....sorry for that but at least i said...."please prove me wrong if this is not true" as for my personal character, you sir can question it all you want, i think its just fine. I consider myself conservative but open to a change of mind.
maybe you should read the ENTIRE thread before calling to question somones character in the future
>S<
-
Hi Gunslinger,
Please note that I did not attack your character, I merely commented that I was wondered what your response would be.
I must admit a certain curiousity as to the motive of someone who would post something they knew to be erroneous as fact. You posted the first item with the title 'Forgotten Facts' with no attribution at the time that it was an urban legend, even though you actually got it FROM urbanlegends.com. I find your second post to be much less mysterious, and I have no beef with it.
Best regards,
Chairboy
-
"God bless the America we're trying to create"
Yep, that pretty much sum's it up for me.
-
Yeager, I'm quite sure if Bill had not shown up to support D-A-V-I-S that Grey would have won the election in a runaway landslide.:rolleyes: Time will tell on Arnold's Governorship, who knows. He does have the Kennedy's to give him political advice. ;)
And what is it with you libs trying to credit parasite Hillary with some fine conservative values for staying attached to the monster host, Bill Clinton. You guys are in such a pathetic state of denial. No wonder your party of liberal destruction is in such terrible condition.
No doubt history will prove that the Clintons were the primary reason the democratic party imploded under the weight of immoral special interests and lost all wealth and power in the federal branches of government. And so it will be for twenty years until the Democrats return to the people.
Once again, no specific reasons. Just a general slanderous smear. I bet if you dig deep enough, The Clintons were the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire and were behind the Jewish concentration camps in WW2... :rolleyes:
Please, stay on your meds and keep wearing the aluminium foil hat for good measure.
-
I dont hate her --but she scares the hell out of me....Anyone who so politicaly oriented towards power at any cost, should scare everyone....She is a liar, she is a thief and the liberal news media goes to all lengths to protect her and the clinton legacy.
Ever since the time I was old enough to vote I have found that I seem to vote for presidents that will do the least amount of damage to my country, not the so-called amount of good..In hiena hillery all I can see happening is the country taking a nose dive because of her personal agenda...At least bionic bill listened to his advisers part of the time and didnt damage the country badly..
What has hiena hillery actualy done for the constituents that elected her to represent them as a senator? All I have ever seen her do is "anything" that creates a broader power base for her personaly. Anyone who is stupid enough to vote for her are either democraticaly blinded, in other words vote the party line no matter how stupid it is, or someone who should have been culled when they were born...
This "women" is one the most dangerous enemies of America that I have seen since Hitler.....Unfortunately so is the "herd" that will vote for her....
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
And please stick to the facts.
After reading your replies to the question you asked it seems pretty clear you really dont want to hear anyones opinion of Hillary. So far you have challenged, insulted and tried to debunk every negitive post.
I have a question for you...
Why do you hate conservatives?
-
Her bellybutton is far too wide.
-
Originally posted by Erlkonig
As if I ever needed any confirmation, this thread certainly seems to demonstrate that there's no shortage of lies and slander from the Repugnantcans when it comes to Hillary Clinton.
Riiiight, Erlkonig. You'd never resort to slander or innuendo. What was that you called them? "Repugnantcans"?
I give you credit though, you managed to discredit yourself in a single sentence.
-
Im kind of disappointed in the Hillary Haters. Is that all you've got?? lol
Anyone got some real dirt, with a link or two for evidence?? Not just the blather and rumour? I really want to see it, Im no fan of hers. You guys are making her look better and better all the time though
strk
-
Originally posted by strk
Im kind of disappointed in the Hillary Haters. Is that all you've got?? lol
Anyone got some real dirt, with a link or two for evidence?? Not just the blather and rumour? I really want to see it, Im no fan of hers. You guys are making her look better and better all the time though
strk
Go for it, vote for her. If you are depending on me to make the case for or against her, you aren't thinking for yourself anyway. The thread asked why people hate her; there is no right or wrong answer to that question.
As for me in a nutshell, I hate her politics, ethics, and transparency.
-
She hid evidence in a case and then (and still does) lies about it. she tried to socialize medicine and she is left wing in every belief... she would take my guns and cars away from me and give my money to people I don't think should have it.
I don't hate her for these things but I don't trust her and I don't like listening to her when I can't respond and I will fight her to see that she isn't in a position to hurt me.
Conversely... If I were in the spotlight or knew her personaly, I bet she would "hate" me. She did say she "hated" the military. It is dame hillary that is into hate not me.
lazs
-
Well, I could post a long post, but I see that Fatty and Kieran just spoke for me.
Succintly, too.
-
Originally posted by Otto
I don't hate anyone. You should do the same.
You don't hate Osama Bin Laden?
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
Now isn't this interesting......
Personal attacks.... <--- up yours Mini... this is completely uncalled for and frankly way beyond friendly jousting. If you knew me you would know why this pisses me off to the extent that it does. Since you don't I will let it pass at that.
Sorry MT... but you started the "family values" crap. If you believe that she was excercising good family values then you have an extremely skewed perspective on things. If you believe that conservatives somehow believe that tollerance for repeated infidelity is a good family value than you continue to do so. You want it not to be personal... try not to be mocking when you throw something back in someone's face. My favorite is when she does something kind, or patriotic... that really pisses you guys off because you juast KNOW she has an ulterior motive... you just KNOW it!
As you sit back and do nothing other than invite other people's oppinions and then criticize them... take a bit of time to find a single "patriotic pose" of Hillary dated pre 9/11/2001. What I despise about the woman is how patriotic she became after that event (when the polls said it was cool) and how little patriotism she displayed before it. This isn't about if she owned a flag prior to 9/11... it's more about her spitting on it prior to that date then pretending she was just trying to get out a spot after it.I mean how DARE she visit ground Zero after using the wrong word to describe the shooting of an innocent man... the shame!
How dare she visit ground zero? Nah... that had nothing to do with it. How dare she pose while firemen and policemen are paraded before her in a complete photo op. People of whom she's been extremely critical.
So... once again... your honest question has turned into a "let's defend hillary" session. You're becoming just as transparant as her MT.
MiniD
-
Originally posted by Mini D
Sorry MT... but you started the "family values" crap. If you believe that she was excercising good family values then you have an extremely skewed perspective on things. If you believe that conservatives somehow believe that tollerance for repeated infidelity is a good family value than you continue to do so. You want it not to be personal... try not to be mocking when you throw something back in someone's face. Basically... a giant FU on that one.
MiniD
Here is what I said...
She stayed married? - uhhh what about those vaunted family values the republicans talk about sooooo much. I'm gonna tell Dr. Laura!
Not one inference toward YOUR family values or anyone in particular Mini. But you just keep on throwing up text walls if you like, you were still out of line.
-
You said it in reply to me MT... and if you don't think it's mocking you are deluding yourself. Quit trying to be an instigator then crying foul when people respond. It's a pretty lame aproach that seems all too common these days.
MiniD
-
Don't hate her, just don't like her politics. nuff said.
As far as who spinned who's comment, it's not what you think you said, it's how others perceive what you said.
Pretty silly thread subject to begin with. MT do you actually read what you write.
-
Ouch.
The responce to that is going take some serious clever bbs skills.
Another bad "Here is what I said" responce ain't going to cut it.
Redeemable sure, I just don't see how.
Should be interesting.
-
Well mini, I will say this. My post was not meant to be personal, just an observation of the conservative side of things. If you took it personally I hope this clarifies things for you.
Your post was overtly personal. I accept that you may have been reacting to a perceived attack on my part.
Creamo... were you the kid who kept running back and forth between two guys saying "did you hear what he called your sister?"
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
Well mini, I will say this. My post was not meant to be personal, just an observation of the conservative side of things. If you took it personally I hope this clarifies things for you.
Your post was overtly personal. I accept that you may have been reacting to a perceived attack on my part.
Creamo... were you the kid who kept running back and forth between two guys saying "did you hear what he called your sister?"
MT,
That's crap. You troll all the time. All you do is make posts about inflamatory topics, then wade right in when they get hot. At least be honest about it. You're a troll.
-
Told ya.
It wasn't interesting though.
-
Originally posted by Creamo
Told ya.
It wasn't interesting though.
Nu huh!
-
MT, you are quite full of it. You repeated back almost verbatum what I said 3 posts above. Nobody else even mentioned it.
Playing the vague game then feigning inocence is getting old MT. You responded to a statement that I alone made... and you were rude and insulting when you did it... much like you are being now. You seem to think that including me in a group of people you are insulting is somehow different than me actually telling you personally you are full of ****.
I'm replying to your rediculousness alone. You seem to be vaguely using other people as a reason to do your own brand of personal insulting.
MiniD