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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mini D on October 10, 2003, 08:01:27 AM
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I put together a table similar to the Fighter vs Fighter stats that shows total MA kill numbers. There's also charts for each aircraft that plot them by tour.
Total Kills (http://www.dbstaines.com/TourStats/totals/Totals.htm)
And because I've been slacking on posting the links:
Tour 44 (http://www.dbstaines.com/TourStats/Tour44/Tour44.htm)
Tour 43 (http://www.dbstaines.com/TourStats/Tour43/Tour43.htm)
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Nice.
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Mein Gott!
HT! HT! HTeeeeeeeee! Those other guys won't fly what I tell them to! You GOTTA perk the Yak-9U!"
:rofl
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Could you run that worksheet TODAY for the Combat Theater? It would save me a bunch of work. I would be ever so grateful.
shubie
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Interesting.
The P-51 either has exactly a 1-1 kill ratio or you've got a bad line in your code somewhere.
P-51D 101222 101222 1.000
I also find it hard to believe the SBD-5 has a 4 to 1 kill ratio:
SBD-5 1388 322 4.297
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Originally posted by Ouch
Interesting.
The P-51 either has exactly a 1-1 kill ratio or you've got a bad line in your code somewhere.
P-51D 101222 101222 1.000
I also find it hard to believe the SBD-5 has a 4 to 1 kill ratio:
SBD-5 1388 322 4.297
You're misreading the charts. If you are on the P-51D page, you are reading that plane's record against the planes listed. The P-51D vs the P-51D has 101222 kills (will always be equal for every plane against itself). The P-51D has 1388 kills and 322 deaths against the SBD-5.
Hope that clears it up.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Toad
Mein Gott!
HT! HT! HTeeeeeeeee! Those other guys won't fly what I tell them to! You GOTTA perk the Yak-9U!"
:rofl
Not quite sure about this one toad. Just to point out to others...
There are tabs at the bottom of the page for every page.
MiniD
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But look at how that graph rises! If this keeps up, it'll be killing everything!
I think everything that has guns should be perked. The C-47 should be free, of course.
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It'd be interesting to see a graph of the percentage of total kills each month in addition to the total kill numbers themselves. I've noticed that the total kills tend to (predictably given the growth of AH) trend gradually upward for just about every plane. As a percentage of the total kills however, I imagine the graph appears much more flat over time for most planes.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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wow in tour 44 i had almost 10% of the total kills in the B5N2:)
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I wonder if there is any way to come up with a TOTAL SORTIES per plane figure? That would be useful information in figuring out the real effect of the various planes, by comparing kills, deaths, and sortie figures.
It would also tell us which planes are more popular, although we can pretty much get that information intuitively in the MA, and by looking at the total kill figures.
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Originally posted by rshubert
Could you run that worksheet TODAY for the Combat Theater? It would save me a bunch of work. I would be ever so grateful.
shubie
Not today... I'm at work. I can look at it this evening, but I don't have much stuff already set up for the CT. I've never really ventured much into it since it's a rolling plane set and the usage numbers don't really tell you much other than what planes were allowed... and on a monthly basis as opposed to a map/map basis.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
It'd be interesting to see a graph of the percentage of total kills each month in addition to the total kill numbers themselves. I've noticed that the total kills tend to (predictably given the growth of AH) trend gradually upward for just about every plane. As a percentage of the total kills however, I imagine the graph appears much more flat over time for most planes.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Done
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Great! Thanks, MiniD.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Good call DMF, the %age charts are much more informative than total kills. Interesting to see that the most whined about planes (La7, P51D, Spit 9 and N1k) only get around 6% each of the total kills in the MA, nowhere near the Chog peak of around 18% that got it perked. Sure wish people would stop and think about that before they open their whine-hole. :)
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Good call DMF, the %age charts are much more informative than total kills. Interesting to see that the most whined about planes (La7, P51D, Spit 9 and N1k) only get around 6% each of the total kills in the MA, nowhere near the Chog peak of around 18% that got it perked. Sure wish people would stop and think about that before they open their whine-hole. :)
I have stopped and thought about it. Easymode planes are popular! Not too challenging, shallow learning curve.... but oh! The noobs still have to learn to shoot! Unlike the CHog, it's not possible to spray a 30° cone of death (or whatever DMF called it)in these planes, except maybe the N1K which is also good for creating HO opportunities. :lol
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Originally posted by beet1e
I have stopped and thought about it. Easymode planes are popular! Not too challenging, shallow learning curve.... but oh! The noobs still have to learn to shoot! Unlike the CHog, it's not possible to spray a 30° cone of death (or whatever DMF called it)in these planes, except maybe the N1K which is also good for creating HO opportunities. :lol
...and that dreaded Yak9U. A whopping 1.x%.
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Another aspect that needs to be taken into account ...
M-16 : 1.63%
M-3 : 0.40%
M-8 : 0.35%
Ostwind : 6.21%
Panzer : 9.83%
Ship Gun : 4.86%
Tiger : 3.25%
LVT-2 : 0.21%
LVT-4 : 0.19%
Chute : 0.47%
C-47 : 0.09%
with a grand total of 27.49% of all the kills !!!
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Nice job Mini D!
Thanks
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being a data analyzer type, I'd like to see what the correlation is between plane use and map set [not asking, but would be interesting]. Very nice work!
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Originally posted by Apache
...and that dreaded Yak9U. A whopping 1.x%.
Apache :) Sorry, I've been too hard on your Yak9U. Well, I tend to fly midwar planes (Or at least mid-range of the AH planeset - big difference - LOL). I thought Yak9U was Big Five, but it isn't. It's P51/SpitIX/LA7/N1K/TYPH. If Yak9U is not big five and not a designated dweeb ride, I might fly it myself! :eek:
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Haven't taken a look at the 'stats' yet, but that vaunted 20+% of the percentage of kills in the MA was for everything. Fighter Kills, buff kills, GV kills. AFAIK, Mini-D doesn't take that into account, all he does is fighter vs fighter kills. So if a plane got 6% of the fighter to fighter kills... that only means... well... nothing, if you are looking for the percentage of total kills made by something.
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Only true dweebs designate airplanes as "dweeb rides".
Normal folks just call them "targets".
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Originally posted by Toad
Only true dweebs designate airplanes as "dweeb rides".
Normal folks just call them "targets".
But do those dweebs fly those designated dweeb planes? Probably not...
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Originally posted by Urchin
Haven't taken a look at the 'stats' yet, but that vaunted 20+% of the percentage of kills in the MA was for everything. Fighter Kills, buff kills, GV kills. AFAIK, Mini-D doesn't take that into account, all he does is fighter vs fighter kills. So if a plane got 6% of the fighter to fighter kills... that only means... well... nothing, if you are looking for the percentage of total kills made by something.
Look at the stats before making mistatements urchin.
The charts are for total kills... not fighter vs fighter kills. The small tables on each plane's page breaks it down against bombers, fighters and GVs and the Fighter vs Fighter page shows what % of fighter kills each plane had. The charts, however, are simply total kills.
MiniD
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No, apparenly they fly other ez mode aircraft and feel all manly about that because they pay a pitiful few perks for their EZ mode.
Dweebs are dweebs before they ever click a button in the AH hangar. Once again, it's the pilot, not the plane.
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mini d great stats! thx for all the work on this and the pilot score pages very good stuff
as for the gvs and panzer with so many its because there is only 1 unperked tank in ah.
when HTC adds the sherman (i hope its a firefly or at least an option for a cheap perk firefly) here will be more variety. hell the sherman alone could be turned into many different versions... 17 pounder 76mm 75mm 105mm, maybe even caliopy rocket launcher version? :)
there are many tanks on par with the panzer. t34-85 and sherman probably best adversaries though. panther could be a cheap perk tank.
only problem w t34 76 is its balistics and shells not nearly as good as the panzer IV and it would get clobbered at longer ranges. but graphicswise its only turret changes for all these tanks to add both versions :)
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In the Fighter vs. Fighter summary, what's the 5th column?
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Originally posted by Mini D
Look at the stats before making mistatements urchin.
The charts are for total kills... not fighter vs fighter kills. The small tables on each plane's page breaks it down against bombers, fighters and GVs and the Fighter vs Fighter page shows what % of fighter kills each plane had. The charts, however, are simply total kills.
MiniD
Ah ok, my mistake.
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We're used to it, Urch. We know the compulsion to complain about any and everything whether you've seen or experienced it or not is strong in you. And we accept you for it. :D
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Great charts. So it appears that in air to air, considering percentages and numbers, the Tempest rules. Big margins over most opponents except tied with Me262 and down rather significantly to Me163.
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Tied with the me 262 in what category? The 262 pretty much owns the A2A K/D category as well as having more A2A kills than any other two perk planes combined (CHog excluded).
MiniD
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Right you are. I must have switched to the 262 chart instead of the Tempest. Again, awesome treasure of data. Thanks much.