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Discuss.
You Might be a Leftist If . . .
By Marc Levin
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 8, 2003
-You believe John Ashcroft poses a greater danger to America than Osama bin Laden
-You think President Bush lied to the nation but his predecessor did not.
-You believe President Bush is too dumb to be President and Arnold Schwarzenegger is too dumb to be Governor of California, but the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Eddie Vedder and Jeanine Garofalo are qualified to discourse at length on foreign policy.
-You believe all conservatives are racist, but do not think minorities can ever succeed without Affirmative Action.
-You can't decide which is worse: the Patriot Act or the Patriot Missile.
-You believe Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, and Yasser Arafat were fairly and democratically elected, but President Bush was not.
-You root for prisoners when they escape from our oppressive prisons, but oppose allowing poor children to escape from failing public schools.
-You support every kind of "diversity" on campus, except political orientation.
-You support banning the smoking of tobacco and legalizing marijuana.
-You are enraged by the so-called mistreatment of Muslim prisoners (who have gained weight while dining on their specially prepared Koran-approved meals) at Guantanamo Bay, but believe the world should have stood idly by while Saddam Hussein filled mass graves.
-You have found where the right to an abortion is written in the Constitution but cannot find where the Constitution provides for a right to keep and bear arms.
-You support campus speech codes that ban pick-up lines and amorous gazes, but never spoke out against President Clinton's physical sexual harassment in the White House.
-You applauded Jimmy Carter for talking about human rights in foreign policy but opposed George W. Bush for doing something about human rights.
-You believe that trial lawyers taking 33 to 40 percent of a plaintiff's recovery in lawsuits is just about right, but the federal government taking this amount of our income in taxes is not nearly enough.
-You believe the former Governor of a New England state with 608,827 people is more than adequately experienced to be President in 2004, but the Governor of a Southwestern state with 21,325,018 people was completely unprepared in 2000.
-You agree with Toni Morrison that President Clinton was "the first black President," but didn't criticize Al Sharpton for recently labeling President Bush a "gang leader."
-You believe we could get more truth out of the Pentagon if only Don Rumsfeld were replaced by Mohammed Al-Sahhaf.
-You believe evangelical Christians are destroying America but don't feel threatened by the radical Wahabbi sect of Islam.
-When it comes to violent crime, you believe in hating the crime but loving the criminal.
-You support unlimited appeals for convicted criminals, but believe it is undemocratic for Californians to reverse their earlier mistake of electing Gray Davis.
-You believe U.S. exports of genetically modified foods pose a greater threat to African nations than corrupt dictators like Zimbabwe's Mugabe.
-You believe welfare is a fundamental human right and workfare is a human rights violation.
-You believe religion is a scourge on our society, but becoming one with Mother Nature by merging with the universal consciousness and harmonizing with lunar reverberations will save us.
-You believe President Bush is an environmental criminal for poisoning the water with arsenic, but have never complained about Saddam Hussein's devastating Iraq and Kuwait's environment by setting intentional oil well fires and committing genocide against the Marsh Arabs by draining their wetlands.
-Your car sports the bumper sticker saying that "it will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need and the military has to hold bake sales," but oppose allowing the U.S. military to volunteer recruitment tables on college campuses because of their "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
If the above has successfully profiled you, congratulations! You have won a one-way ticket to Paris aboard the massive cruise ship, "The U.S.S.R. Michael Moore." Your ticket will be held at the nearest Dennis Kucinich for President rally. Matricular consular ID cards issued by foreign governments will be gladly accepted as identification.
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Boy the straw men are no match for logic like that!
strk
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Hehe, great find Rip.
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LMAO that was too freakin funny and true (in most cases) enough to be scary....I'd like to see a You might be a right winger column as well....
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You might be a conservative if:
* You watch the Rush Limbaugh show the same way your kid watches "Barney
and Friends"
* You believe an adulterer who served his wife divorce papers while she
was in the hospital and later had to be taken to court for lack of child
support payments named Newt when he talks about how he's for "Family
Values"
* You complain about the "liberal media" on any of the numerous
conservative political TV/radio talk shows.
* You have a bumper sticker that says "Insured by Smith and Wessen"
* You believe the hole in the ozone layer to be a myth created by crazy
liberals.
* You believe the Holocaust to be a myth created by crazy liberals.
* You fervently speak about the evils of marijuana at social gatherings
with a vodka straight in hand.
* You believe the Constitution states the Christianity is our official
religion.
* You molest campaign workers, then lie about it on national television...
oops, my mistake... that's "You might be Newt Gingrinch if.."
* You think the words feminist and lesbian are synonyms.
* If you fit any of Jeff Foxworthy's "You might be a redneck if..."
* You believe every man, woman, child and fetus should be armed to the
teeth with AK-47's, hand grenades, handguns, and any other weapon
imaginable.
* You actually believe that people actually own AK-47's for "hunting
purposes"
* You have faith in idiotic economic policies such as "trickle down
economics"
* You don't see why everyone's so down on Mark Fuhrman.
* You think that Michaelangelo's David should be wearing boxers at the
least.
* The hostess at the Sizzler knows you by name.
* You have a button that says "I'm not prejudice, I hate everyone"
* You can ask your daddy to bail you out when you lose hundreds of
thousands of dollars from embezzling S&L's
* Your main source for news is an egocentric man named Rush who distorts
facts consistantly to fit his views and opinions.
* You want to find another out-of-work actor to play the figurehead for
the Republican party (perhaps Bonzo's free)
* Your response to anything Bill Clinton says includes a reference to
Arkansas hillbillies.
* You still attempt to defend Dan Quayle's intelligence.
* You get offended if someone is unusually quiet on the way to a funeral...
oops, sorry, my fault again... thats another "You might be Newt
Gingrinch..."
* You refuse to talk to your sister because she's a lesbian... dangit,
sorry...once again, another "You might be Newt..."
* You obsessively impose your own morality upon others.
* You wish to ammend the Constitution to make desecration of the flag
illegal.
* You wish to rewrite the first ammendment to make desecration of the
flag illegal.
* You wish to rewrite the first commandment to make desecration of the
flag illegal (and here, you thought you were such a good Christian...)
* You believe that if parents and teachers don't mention sex to a child
until s/he is 25, then s/he won't even know it exists until then.
* You think Clarence Thomas is a good spokesman for the black community.
* You must first don rubber gloves before shaking hands with a homosexual.
* You attribute the lack of close families to Murphy Brown.
* You helped to ban Beavis from saying "fire", yet keep a loaded handgun
in the house (doesn't matter if it's hidden.. your kid knows where it
is, trust me.)
* You have a sticker saying "Guns don't kill people, people do" (and I
suppose those little bullet things are harmless too)
* You believe that everyone else should hold the same moralistic and
political views as you, and by God, you're going to see to it that they
do!
and finally...
* You believed anything on the previous "You might be a liberal if..." list.
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Rip's was better.
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Strk, at *least* I gave credit where due:rolleyes:
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/6174/u_conser.htm
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Rip, travasity of logic there. Many of the statements present correlations that are flimsy at best, non-existant at worst.
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As a person who has trouble identifying with either end of the political spectrum, I think Ripsnort's post has fewer stupid points than strk's. And a few that even make sense.
Does that make me conservative?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
As a person who has trouble identifying with either end of the political spectrum, I think Ripsnort's post has fewer stupid points than strk's. And a few that even make sense.
Does that make me conservative?
LOL! And guess what, I vote the issues, not the party, but yet *I* am stamped "Conservative" on this board.:rofl
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"You might be a leftist if..."
... You let Rush get a free pass.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LOL! And guess what, I vote the issues, not the party, but yet *I* am stamped "Conservative" on this board.:rofl
Conservative it is then :)
Well, mostly.
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You helped to ban Beavis from saying "fire", yet keep a loaded handgun
I have to completly disagree with this one....I for one was a HUGE bevis and butthead fan, and I'm under the opinion that it was the libral soccer moms that made them quit saying it.
DONT TALK SMACK ABOUT CONSERVATIVES AND B&B!
:D :D :D :lol :rofl
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You might be a Right-Wing Zelot if:
-You believe John Ashcroft poses no danger to America or Liberty.
-You think President Bush did not lie to the nation and the world.
-You believe President Bush is the answer to all the worlds problems, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a godsend to the People of California, and the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Eddie Vedder and Jeanine Garofalo do not have the Right to Free Speach.
-You believe all liberals are Communist, but do not think Millionaire's can ever succeed without Tax Breaks.
-You can't decide which is worse: the Clintons or the Gores.
-You believe George W. Bush was fairly and democratically elected, and the majority of the popular vote should be ignored.
-You root for prisoners when they are convicted, but oppose allowing poor conservative talk show hosts to share a cell with them.
-You support no kind of "diversity" on campus, especially political orientation.
-You support banning the smoking and legalizing of marijuana.
-You are enraged by the acts of "terrorism" by Tommy Chong, yet stand idly by while Bush Administration Officials leak the name of CIA agents that disagree with your motives for war.
-You cannot find where the right to an abortion is in the Constitution but can find where the Constitution provides for a right to keep and bear arms outside of a well regulated militia.
-You belive George W. Bush went to War over human rights.
-You don't believe the former Governor of a New England state with 608,827 people is adequately experienced to be President in 2004, but the Governor of a Southwestern state with 21,325,018 people wasn't completely unprepared in 2000.
-You belive Bill Clinton is responsable for our economy 3 years after he left office, but George W. Bush has no effect at all.
-You believe Don Rumsfeld .
-You don't feel threatened by evangelical Christians or State Supreme Court Justices placing 10 ton religious statues on the Courthouse steps.
-You support people voting a recall of an election they didn't vote in to begin with.
-You support American troops being used as "Beat Cops" halfway around the world, and want to send more.
-You see nothing wrong with only former Bush Administration members lining their pockets with warbucks.
-You are not concerned where the largest Budget Surplus in American history went.
-You don't care One in 11 families, one in nine Americans, and one in six children are officially poor.
-You don't care the most affluent fifth of the population received half of all household income last year. The poorest fifth got 3.5 per cent.
-You don't care the official poverty line is an income of $18,104/yr for a family of four, but a single parent of two working full-time for a minimum wage would make $10,712/yr.
-You don't care.
-Your car sports a Bush-Cheney '04 campaign sticker.
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At *least* rpm didn't have to do a google search (strk) :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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TY Rip, I could have gone on, but had to give myself a Time-Out...does that mean I'm on Self-Probation?:confused:
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If there are no further entries?
As the only nonpartisan and unbiased observer on this board I hereby declare the winner to be...........Ripsnort!
Please collect your Aces High, The Board Game on yer way out Rip.
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At *least* rpm didn't have to do a google search (strk)
oh great Google thy knowledge is vast!
you think Im going to write something for you lunkheads?? I only have a little bit of time here.
strk
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Originally posted by rpm371
You might be a Right-Wing Zelot if:
-You believe John Ashcroft poses no danger to America or Liberty.
No he doesn't
-You think President Bush did not lie to the nation and the world.
He didn't
-You believe President Bush is the answer to all the worlds problems, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a godsend to the People of California, and the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Eddie Vedder and Jeanine Garofalo do not have the Right to Free Speach.
They have the right to free speach, they don't have the righ to be heard
-You believe all liberals are Communist, but do not think Millionaire's can ever succeed without Tax Breaks.
You shouldn't be gang raped by the feds because you work hard and make something out of your self.
-You can't decide which is worse: the Clintons or the Gores.
Its a tie.
-You believe George W. Bush was fairly and democratically elected, and the majority of the popular vote should be ignored. Ok, then I want my congresonal dist's electoral vote to go to the guy we voted for. The electoral should be divided up into districts, not states.
-You root for prisoners when they are convicted, but oppose allowing poor conservative talk show hosts to share a cell with them.
If he is guilty then put him in jail, simple as that.
-You support no kind of "diversity" on campus, especially political orientation.
no comment
-You support banning the smoking and legalizing of marijuana.
No, I believe it has a legit purpos in medicine, but the general public shouldn't have access to it. Morphine is illegal to use with out a script, mary jane should be too.
-You are enraged by the acts of "terrorism" by Tommy Chong, yet stand idly by while Bush Administration Officials leak the name of CIA agents that disagree with your motives for war.
If this happened then they should go to jail.
-You cannot find where the right to an abortion is in the Constitution but can find where the Constitution provides for a right to keep and bear arms outside of a well regulated militia.
In all the other amendments the term "the people" they are refering to actual people, so do you think they changed this for one amendment? No, they kept it as simple as possible so we wouldn't need some court to interupt the actual meaning years later... "What do you mean by is?"
-You belive George W. Bush went to War over human rights.
Yes I do.
-You don't believe the former Governor of a New England state with 608,827 people is adequately experienced to be President in 2004, but the Governor of a Southwestern state with 21,325,018 people wasn't completely unprepared in 2000.
Unprepared for 9-11, yes, anyone would have been, What do you think Gore would have done? (Oh god that thought makes me sick)
-You belive Bill Clinton is responsable for our economy 3 years after he left office, but George W. Bush has no effect at all.
Yes I do, it is going to take years to undo clintons mess and the false boom he created by artificialy infalting the economy. It was already headed down hill before the election.
-You believe Don Rumsfeld .
I like Don, you leave him alone.
-You don't feel threatened by evangelical Christians or State Supreme Court Justices placing 10 ton religious statues on the Courthouse steps.
Ok this is where it gets scary, I agree with you, religion has no place in Govt or the court room. There is a freedom of religion and no one should be forced to accept someone elses views.
-You support people voting a recall of an election they didn't vote in to begin with.
Yep, people have the right to vote, or not to vote.
-You support American troops being used as "Beat Cops" halfway around the world, and want to send more.
Thats our job as the only super power left.
-You see nothing wrong with only former Bush Administration members lining their pockets with warbucks.
If this is true, than fine, no one else would support him, why should they profit now?
-You are not concerned where the largest Budget Surplus in American history went.
Nope, I think it was just manipulated numbers and it didn't exist in the first place.
-You don't care One in 11 families, one in nine Americans, and one in six children are officially poor.
Nope I don't care, I was poor when I was in college, I worked my butt off and now I am doing just fine, its their fault fot being lazy, they need to carry their own weight.
-You don't care the most affluent fifth of the population received half of all household income last year. The poorest fifth got 3.5 per cent.
See above
-You don't care the official poverty line is an income of $18,104/yr for a family of four, but a single parent of two working full-time for a minimum wage would make $10,712/yr.
See above, and what is a person doing having kids if they can't support them???
-You don't care. About your liberal extreamist views of a normal world, no.
-Your car sports a Bush-Cheney '04 campaign sticker.
Only sticker on my truck is "National Rife Association, life member"
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"-You believe President Bush is the answer to all the worlds problems, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a godsend to the People of California, and the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Eddie Vedder and Jeanine Garofalo do not have the Right to Free Speach. "
How is it you don't understand a basic concept like free speech?
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CTRL-C CTRL-V flame-bait. What would Skuzzy think?
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doesn't matter if it's hidden.. your kid knows where it
is, trust me
no they don't, it's well hidden. in the perfect hiding spot, with the whisky, porn, and the keys to the dirt bike.
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I didn't know any kid in Jr. High that didn't know where to find his dad's stash(es). :D
funkedup <- former pickup drivin, gun shootin, whiskey drinkin 13 year old :D
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Please bear in mind that I took 90% of what Mr. Levin said and just reversed it. I don't nessessarily lean as far left as you think...but a couple rebutals kinda scare me:
-You believe John Ashcroft poses no danger to America or Liberty.
No he doesn't
-You think President Bush did not lie to the nation and the world.
He didn't
Your kidding, right? I guess the hand IS quicker than the eye.
-You believe all liberals are Communist, but do not think Millionaire's can ever succeed without Tax Breaks.
You shouldn't be gang raped by the feds because you work hard and make something out of your self.
Neither should those that can afford it least. Shouldn't taxes be equal percentages without loopholes only for the wealthiest?
-You believe George W. Bush went to War over human rights.
Yes I do.
:rofl If that was the case, why did he wait? Plenty of time before 9/11 for him to take that stand.
-You believe Don Rumsfeld .
I like Don, you leave him alone.
The guy give the term "short fuse" a whole new meaning. Archie Bunker is a pinko compared to Rummy.
-You support American troops being used as "Beat Cops" halfway around the world, and want to send more.
Thats our job as the only super power left.
No, it's not. That would be The United Nations job. You know, that little club WE formed to do just that. (sidebar: There is that lil ol China still out there, they are just being quiet right now)
-You don't care One in 11 families, one in nine Americans, and one in six children are officially poor.
Nope I don't care, I was poor when I was in college, I worked my butt off and now I am doing just fine, its their fault for being lazy, they need to carry their own weight.
-You don't care the most affluent fifth of the population received half of all household income last year. The poorest fifth got 3.5 per cent.
See above
-You don't care the official poverty line is an income of $18,104/yr for a family of four, but a single parent of two working full-time for a minimum wage would make $10,712/yr.
See above, and what is a person doing having kids if they can't support them???
[RANT]Not everyone in the US is as fortunate as you. You at least had the opportunity to attend college to begin with. The Wal-Mart corporation ALONE has caused more unemployment and economic recession in small town America than should be allowed. They come in and drive the Mom and Pop stores out of business, then raise prices while the average wage has been reduced. They stop the "Buy American and save jobs" campaign in favor of "Buy Chinese and boost profit". But hey, they have a smiley face for a logo now, and if you have a degree you might make Assistant Department Manager someday...it pays $10 an hour, so it's all good.
Not every poor family in America is made up of a Mom watching Oprah and popping out kids to get a bigger welfare check, while those kids run wild and sell crack down on the corner. Once you leave California, you may get a better view of what's actually happening to our economy. Small town life ain't easy, especially if the only job available is at Wal-Mart.[/RANT]
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rip.. it's much simpler than that... you are a liberal if you think women should vote and you vote for the same things they do.
If you are a woman then at least it makes sense. If you are a man.... then hopefully you will outgrow it before you say too many things that will be a humiliation for you in the future.
lazs
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You are a conservative if you deny women the right to vote.
Right Laz?
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you are a liberal if you think women should vote and you vote for the same things they do.
Are you still pissed at the sufragettes? lol
strk
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Originally posted by 10Bears
You are a conservative if you deny women the right to vote.
Right Laz?
I thought it was proper healthcare?
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HAHAHAHAHA! That was a great post Rip! Quite the dig on dumbocrats! HAHAHAHA!
Errrr... wait...Originally posted by Thrawn
Rip, travasity of logic there. Many of the statements present correlations that are flimsy at best, non-existant at worst.
Pretty much spot on.
Too bad so many used the fight fire with f... I mean... fight stupidity with stupidity strategy here.
MiniD
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I don't know if you are consevative or not if you realize that women shouldn't vote but you most certainly are liberal if you vote as the women do. You are liberal if you condone much less encourage women to run your lives.
wussies..
lazs
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You might be a leftist if...
You claim that Rip's list was full of inaccuracies and sketchy correlations immediately preceading the posting of your own personal 'you might be a right winger' list.
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Don't let the falacy of generalization blind ya .... putting 'left' or 'right' label on something really means nothing anymore ..... maybe it meant something many years ago..
Just understand ...... words, our language itself lends us to putting things in catagories, to genralize them ... but in the end this often fails to describe a thing in true detail.... i think the Left/Right BS is just that Bull... non-catagories, meaningless :D
can't we be centeric or some such non-sense :)
But one fact remains ... they are all in bed with 'Wal-Mart' 'cause mom & pop don't have lobbists
Good thing some countries stood up to 'them' in Cancun'
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The only hadware/everything store in my town has be gouging everyone heavily for more than 30 years. I will welcome the Wall mart that is opening this month.
The prices have dropped at the "mom and pop" store to allmost realistic and the sevice has went from surley to pasted on smiles and half hearted "how are ya doings".... way too late. Guess they will just have to sell their store and the 43 other properties that they own in town and retire on some pitance of 5-10 million or so.
As for liberals... start to worry that you may be one and may be cutting your own throat if you notice that you have voted allong with the women. If you are not black and you vote with the black voter block then you really need to worry too.
I would vote libertarian if I thought they had a chance in hell.
lazs
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-You support banning the smoking of tobacco and legalizing marijuana.
To fricken funny!!!
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Speaking up for the women here.
Not all women are liberals, but yes; we have a different viewpoint a lot of the time then men. Why? Because there's more of a maternal instinct here, an instinct that wants to save and preserve rather than the instinct to bomb the crap out of everything.
On the other hand, I know a *lot* of women who are under the false impression that the Bush administration has told the American people the truth about everything. Why? Because they're sheltered and don't want to know the truth. They listen like good little wives to what their husbands tell them, and they do what they're told to do. They vote like the good little sheep they are and come home to a smile from their husband.
I, personally, am never going to be like that. And you guys should be darn happy about it, too. Why? Because I'm willing to go look for things myself. I'm willing to scour the Democrat and Replican websites to see what they have to say for themselves, to see the stands candidates take on things.. look at world news, look at local news and see the amazing differences in what gets reported. I'm not going to vote the way my parents told me to, or my fiance.. I'm going to vote for what I think is right. It might be conservative on some things, and it might be radicaly liberal on others.
Just... Damn people who think for themselves. They always get in the way, don't they? Should round up all those trouble makers and send them off to France! You guys would all be much happier here without us. Just don't come crying and begging for help when you can't get rid of dictator shrub.
I cannot believe that some of you guys are still so pigheaded as to think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Welcome to America, the place where all people are created equal. Except when it comes to voting and deciding our future. Let me guess, some of you are all about denying African Americans the right to vote too?
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well put kesolei
strk
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Originally posted by kesolei
Speaking up for the women here.
Not all women are liberals, but yes; we have a different viewpoint a lot of the time then men. Why? Because there's more of a maternal instinct here, an instinct that wants to save and preserve rather than the instinct to bomb the crap out of everything.
On the other hand, I know a *lot* of women who are under the false impression that the Bush administration has told the American people the truth about everything. Why? Because they're sheltered and don't want to know the truth. They listen like good little wives to what their husbands tell them, and they do what they're told to do. They vote like the good little sheep they are and come home to a smile from their husband.
I, personally, am never going to be like that. And you guys should be darn happy about it, too. Why? Because I'm willing to go look for things myself. I'm willing to scour the Democrat and Replican websites to see what they have to say for themselves, to see the stands candidates take on things.. look at world news, look at local news and see the amazing differences in what gets reported. I'm not going to vote the way my parents told me to, or my fiance.. I'm going to vote for what I think is right. It might be conservative on some things, and it might be radicaly liberal on others.
Just... Damn people who think for themselves. They always get in the way, don't they? Should round up all those trouble makers and send them off to France! You guys would all be much happier here without us. Just don't come crying and begging for help when you can't get rid of dictator shrub.
I cannot believe that some of you guys are still so pigheaded as to think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Welcome to America, the place where all people are created equal. Except when it comes to voting and deciding our future. Let me guess, some of you are all about denying African Americans the right to vote too?
maam, step AWAY from the crack pipe!
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Let me guess, some of you are all about denying African Americans the right to vote too?
They aren't that uptight. They believe Blacks should get 3/5 of a vote, just like the census.
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Because there's more of a maternal instinct here, an instinct that wants to save and preserve rather than the instinct to bomb the crap out of everything.
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What about abortion? Where is this maternal instinct to save and preserve when the unborn are getting murdered by their very own mothers.
The majority of american woman want this right preserved.
In the spirit of manly death and destruction, I support them.
edit: strk, dont forget to pop up for air. From time to time.
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You Might be a Leftist If . . .
By Marc Levin
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 8, 2003
-You believe John Ashcroft poses a greater danger to America than Osama bin Laden tie
-You think President Bush lied to the nation but his predecessor did not. they both did...there politicians for feks sake
-You believe President Bush is too dumb to be President and Arnold Schwarzenegger is too dumb to be Governor of California, but the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Eddie Vedder and Jeanine Garofalo are qualified to discourse at length on foreign policy. there all pretty stupid
-You believe all conservatives are racist, but do not think minorities can ever succeed without Affirmative Action.
they arnt and they probably can...if they would let them
-You can't decide which is worse: the Patriot Act or the Patriot Missile.
patriot missile...
-You believe Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, and Yasser Arafat were fairly and democratically elected, but President Bush was not.
they werent...he wasnt...he was appointed...
-You root for prisoners when they escape from our oppressive prisons, but oppose allowing poor children to escape from failing public schools.
the prisons arnt oppressive enough...i blame the oh so very high costs of private school...that and rap ;)
-You support every kind of "diversity" on campus, except political orientation.
its all good
-You support banning the smoking of tobacco and legalizing marijuana.
legalize it all...d00d
-You are enraged by the so-called mistreatment of Muslim prisoners (who have gained weight while dining on their specially prepared Koran-approved meals) at Guantanamo Bay, but believe the world should have stood idly by while Saddam Hussein filled mass graves.
im not enraged...they shouldent have...but they should have come up with some real evidence...
-You have found where the right to an abortion is written in the Constitution but cannot find where the Constitution provides for a right to keep and bear arms.
its not in the constitution but theres a law that allows it somewhere in there...its the right to bear arm as a part of a well formed militia...wich isnt needed since the british reinvasion plan hsa gone under ;)
-You support campus speech codes that ban pick-up lines and amorous gazes, but never spoke out against President Clinton's physical sexual harassment in the White House.
they can do what they want...there isnt any public outcry when john doe does the same...
-You applauded Jimmy Carter for talking about human rights in foreign policy but opposed George W. Bush for doing something about human rights.
i did...throwing them out the window isnt applaudable (i beleive he said there should be limits to freedom at some point...bastard)
-You believe that trial lawyers taking 33 to 40 percent of a plaintiff's recovery in lawsuits is just about right, but the federal government taking this amount of our income in taxes is not nearly enough.
its not, its more than enough up here in canada
-You believe the former Governor of a New England state with 608,827 people is more than adequately experienced to be President in 2004, but the Governor of a Southwestern state with 21,325,018 people was completely unprepared in 2000.
might...might not...and look what a crap bellybutton job he did of it to
-You agree with Toni Morrison that President Clinton was "the first black President," but didn't criticize Al Sharpton for recently labeling President Bush a "gang leader."
he wasnt...he is
-You believe we could get more truth out of the Pentagon if only Don Rumsfeld were replaced by Mohammed Al-Sahhaf.
its a tie
-You believe evangelical Christians are destroying America but don't feel threatened by the radical Wahabbi sect of Islam.
they are...its so radical those who follow it get what they deserve
-When it comes to violent crime, you believe in hating the crime but loving the criminal.
hate the crime...hang the criminal up by his toes
-You support unlimited appeals for convicted criminals, but believe it is undemocratic for Californians to reverse their earlier mistake of electing Gray Davis.
they dont deserve it, it is democratic...but its expensive to hold an election...and if you screw up you should have to live with it for the correct amount of time
-You believe U.S. exports of genetically modified foods pose a greater threat to African nations than corrupt dictators like Zimbabwe's Mugabe.
its a tie
-You believe welfare is a fundamental human right and workfare is a human rights violation.
it is...its not
-You believe religion is a scourge on our society, but becoming one with Mother Nature by merging with the universal consciousness and harmonizing with lunar reverberations will save us.
there both pretty stupid
-You believe President Bush is an environmental criminal for poisoning the water with arsenic, but have never complained about Saddam Hussein's devastating Iraq and Kuwait's environment by setting intentional oil well fires and committing genocide against the Marsh Arabs by draining their wetlands.
he is...how come no one knew about this until you needed reasons to go into iraq???
-Your car sports the bumper sticker saying that "it will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need and the military has to hold bake sales," but oppose allowing the U.S. military to volunteer recruitment tables on college campuses because of their "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
split the money 50/50 any government orginization that has enough money left over to spend on making a computer game has to much money
If the above has successfully profiled you, congratulations! You have won a one-way ticket to Paris aboard the massive cruise ship, "The U.S.S.R. Michael Moore." Your ticket will be held at the nearest Dennis Kucinich for President rally. Matricular consular ID cards issued by foreign governments will be gladly accepted as identification.
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Originally posted by Yeager
What about abortion? Where is this maternal instinct to save and preserve when the unborn are getting murdered by their very own mothers.
The majority of american woman want this right preserved.
In the spirit of manly death and destruction, I support them.
That's a matter of a different stature. Most women who end up having abortions do so because of a few reasons. a) They're 16 and way too young, they made a mistake and shouldn't have to have their lives ruined because of it. b) The child is from a rape, and seeing that child every day would only bring about the memory of such a traumatic experiance. c) They can by no means support the child once its born because the man who knocked them up dissapeared as soon as responsiblity came into play, and rather than bring a child into the world then put them up for adoption and possibly the chance to lead a rather... unhappy life, they ended it before it happened.
It also happens that most women who do have an abortion are haunted by that for the rest of their lives. The wondering about what could have been, the emptyness they feel at the loss of a child; its horrible. But sometimes it is the better alternative.
Of course, there are those who are completely irresponsible and have abortion after abortion because they sleep around and are just plain abusing the idea; those women aren't haunted by it, and frankly.. they disgust me. But for the rest... if your daughter was raped at the young age of 16 because some idiot slipped a drug in her drink at a party, and she ended up pregnant... would you really want to force her to carry that reminder to term? That can really screw up a young girls life, and I doubt you'd wish that on anyone. In a sense guys have it lucky, if they get a girl pregnant.. they can keep going to school, keep on in society and not be looked down upon. But a young girl who walks around pregnant is scorned. Fair, hm?
It can be argued that women want the right preserved so that they can save the life of someone tangible, and while its really unfortunate that the potential of another being is lost.. the potential for another already here is saved. Its a trade-off.
Abortion is a touchy subject, and one of those where people aren't ever going to come to an agreement.. and really has nothing to do with the point I was attempting to illustrate. And I could go on about this, but I'm not going to because no matter what I say- someone on this board is going to find a way to skew it to their favor.
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Originally posted by kesolei
Because there's more of a maternal instinct here, an instinct that wants to save and preserve rather than the instinct to bomb the crap out of everything.
Keso, in my experience there is NOTHING more violent than a group of women working together. I have seen some fights at work but nothing approaches the amount of back stabbing that goes on with an office/work environment full of women. Men may like to bomb, but women plot, scheme, and back stab better than any man could ever dream of.
Besides, Maggie Thatcher didn't take NO BS from Argentina now did she? Hehehehehe
CHECK 6!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Keso, in my experience there is NOTHING more violent than a group of women working together. I have seen some fights at work but nothing approaches the amount of back stabbing that goes on with an office/work environment full of women. Men may like to bomb, but women plot, scheme, and back stab better than any man could ever dream of.
Besides, Maggie Thatcher didn't take NO BS from Argentina now did she? Hehehehehe
Well, that's a skill right there that takes ages to perfect. And... Yea, okay. I'm not gonna deny it. Women can be downright evil. But a lot of times that is cued by something.. perceived threat to self or family.
And besides Diablo, don't you think getting rid of Saddam would have been easier if a woman had been coming up with the tactics? It would have taken 2 black women from brooklyn instead of the whole US army. :P (Yes, humor! Yay.)
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Hmmmm where was that proposal to create a political forum?
It gets my vote.
Daniel
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Neither should those that can afford it least. Shouldn't taxes be equal percentages without loopholes only for the wealthiest?
Of course you realize that the top 10 percent of the US population pays 90% of the taxes in this country.
How is that fair? Why should the poorest get a tax break, they are paying the least as it is. Economically giving tax breaks to the lowest tax payers does nothing for the economy. I am all for cutting people some slack but common.
A few years ago, Steve Forbes, while a Presidential candidate offered a flat tax program of something akin to 12% of what you make above a certain rate-I think 35K if I remember right. You make 34K, you pay nothing, you make 36, you pay 12% of the 1K.
Would have been great for the poor. The poor would have payed nothing. Most middle class would have seen their taxes drop dramatically (me included). What happened to the flat tax proposal.... Liberals shot it down as being 'unfair'. Forbes was a 'conservative' offering a plan to eliminate taxes for the poorest people in this country and Liberals berated him for his tax plan being unfair because it supposedly cut taxes for the 'wealthy'.
Explain that one.
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kesolei... you have outlined why the men here should work to end womens sufferage.
I am generalizing but.... good enough..Women have no idea about criminals since they are men. Women think that the criminal is really a nice guy who made some bad mistakes. Women know nothing about rapists or child molesters or serial killers. Women are easily conned by men. Men pretend to "care" and women buy it. women would let every rapist and child molester either loose.... or they would torture em to death slowly... I am not into letting em loose or torture... I would simply put em out of their misery humanely... women would never buy that.
Even if we can't deny women the right to vote.. We should at least vote like men... Liberals vote like women. Look at the next electionm and see how the women voted on laws.. If you voted with them you are a liberal, a woman or both.
Grow a pair and vote like a man. Use common sense and not feeling. Don't vote to restrict the rights of others or yourself... don't let the government grow... It's too big and too intrusive now... Get rid of taxes every way you can. Vote no on every new tax.
lazs
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>>Of course you realize that the top 10 percent of the US population pays 90% of the taxes in this country
Please site your sources... I was under the impression that the middle income Americans paid the majority of the taxes, and the rich keep their money by actually paying less in taxes by sheltering their income in carefully crafted tax loop holes just for that purpose.
Ah it's so much fun being cynical.
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
>>Of course you realize that the top 10 percent of the US population pays 90% of the taxes in this country
Please site your sources... I was under the impression that the middle income Americans paid the majority of the taxes, and the rich keep their money by actually paying less in taxes by sheltering their income in carefully crafted tax loop holes just for that purpose.
Ah it's so much fun being cynical.
Here's a chart.
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/charts_T/t5.html
Add the numbers up.
He's alittle off.
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also, the average Effective Income Tax Rates on Households with the Highest Incomes Have Risen Disproportionately Since 1983
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/charts_T/t4.html
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It can be interpreted in another way : the rich are more rich than before.
Inegality facing tax or increase of overall inegality ?
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Originally posted by straffo
It can be interpreted in another way : the rich are more rich than before.
Not in proportion to the ADJUSTED inflation rate.
And federal income taxes have gone up disportionately.
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/charts_T/t3.html
People are making more money, but pay more taxes, and the adjusted inflation rate makes that increase miniscule.
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I've no US sources but I'll be surprised to see the US showing a different trend than the other countries.
Btw inegality == inégalité == inequality:)
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Oh this is just another Right Wing RAG!!
Site an IRS source with the same chart.
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
Oh this is just another Right Wing RAG!!
Site an IRS source with the same chart.
Find it yourself, all the info was created with IRS information. Its not up to us to keep you informed. Thats your responsibility.
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yea you can find it on rush.com also.
it must be true. lol
can somone wade thru it and find the normal distortions and lies.
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
yea you can find it on rush.com also.
it must be true. lol
can somone wade thru it and find the normal distortions and lies.
Never been to his website, you a fan?
So, IRS information could be tainted..and black helicopters could be hovering right over your house this minute! Its a conspiracy I tell ya!
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
yea you can find it on rush.com also.
it must be true. lol
can somone wade thru it and find the normal distortions and lies.
Seems that ole ldv is more enlightened than we thought. I went to rush.com. I had no idea the rock band Rush was so involved with the US IRS data charts! Thanks for the heads-up ldv! Every new post by you is good for at least another 10 mins. of unbridled laughter for me! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I think that everyone should get to keep the first $35k they make, with the rest going to Uncle Sam. After all, the government is obviously better at spending my money than I am. We can't have any more of this UNFAIRNESS with some people actually making more money than others! That's outrageous!
Let's also get rid of grades in schools, and anything else in our society that encourages people to strive for excellence. Since not everyone can be excellent, no one should be. Mediocrity for all, I say! Pass me the hammer and sickle, I won't be needing these worthless degrees anymore!
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Originally posted by lazs2
kesolei... you have outlined why the men here should work to end womens sufferage.
I am generalizing but.... good enough..Women have no idea about criminals since they are men. Women think that the criminal is really a nice guy who made some bad mistakes. Women know nothing about rapists or child molesters or serial killers. Women are easily conned by men. Men pretend to "care" and women buy it. women would let every rapist and child molester either loose.... or they would torture em to death slowly... I am not into letting em loose or torture... I would simply put em out of their misery humanely... women would never buy that.
Was talking to someone today, a man actually.. who was commenting how its interesting that through the ages.. its seemed the women are the long-term planners who try to nuture something into becoming something good in the end.. while men were more, 'now-now-now'. Why was that? Men saw the problem as, "We need meat for dinner tonight. I'll go hunt." Women saw, "We're going to need meat during winter too when it'll be scarce, lets save some of tonights catch."
He was commenting that if he started up a company, he wanted a Woman as the CEO and a man for the C.O.O. The woman would probably come up with a good long-term plan to get things done and back on track, and the guy would be there making sure it happened and able to problem solve and fix along the way.
This isn't to say women can't do that either, or men can't long-term plan.. but its just more a natural instinct.
You need both halves to make the whole. The ying and yang of everything. Women see one side of the coin, men the other. (In general) We balance each other out, and hopefully of it all will come the course of action that's best.
By saying men should be the only people to decide the fate of the world, you're setting yourself for eventual disaster. It'll work for now, but down the road... who knows. No one can really see the future for sure.
And Lazs.. really. Try putting some faith in women. You might be suprised. Oh, last thing. Wild guess here- you aren't married and also haven't got a serious relationship going on in your life?
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have been married twice and my relationships average about 1 1/2 years. I do not do comprimise well and long term planning is for women. Long term planning should be in a general flexible manner. I certainly don't agree with carving laws into stone to cover some prediction.
look at who is buying self help books... look at what a scam they are. yet... they continue to sell to the gullible women and womenly men out there.
I have taken womens advise on many occassions. mostly about children. I would not take their advise on how I should live tho since the odds of them wanting to live as I want to are allmost nil.... they are different from me and that is all there is too it.
The best way to preserve my lifestyle it to keep relationships from getting out of hand and.... working towards ending womens sufferage..
but since you gave your "male" friend example.... I will tell you that more than a few women I know wish things were back the way they were before women became "equal" in the workplace.
lazs
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Man, I cant believe some people still think like that.
lazs2, I have never read anything so close minded in my life.
You trully are a dinosaur. :rofl
You are entitled to your opinions though.
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In reference to the statement about politicians lieing I would like to point out that they can't help it. It's in their contracts or something...
Shuckins
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yes avro... yes I am. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back my way before the comet hits... perhaps not. In the mean time... I will live my life the way I like to and not the way that makes me look good in your's, or anyone elses eyes.
lazs
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Allowing women to vote contributed considerably to the deterioration of our society. One must remember though that it was not caused by an inherent flaw in women but by the system of modern western democracy where people can vote on issues concerning otehr people that should be none of voters' business.
Previously. What was legally man-only vote was actuall a family vote, where men and women resolved their inherent differences through a compromise and came up with a unified family policy, expressed at the ballot box. Also, the range of issues subject to vote and handled by the state was much narrower. People did not use the power of the state to push other people around to the same extent they do now.
Several development happend. The women got vote. The propaganda appeared that targeted women and presented them as a party in conflict with men rather than partners. Family structure broke down making more women live separately from men and not work out compromise family policy. Women live longer and go to jail less - which raises the number of women voting compared to men.
The character of media changed over time with TV rather than printed media becoming prevalent. Emotional issues and good looks affect women more than men.
Most importantly the state is now engaged in full-blown social engineering which finds more sympathy among women.
All together we've got one more conflict in our society where it was not before.
kesolei: most women who do have an abortion are haunted by that for the rest of their lives
That's BS. It may be what the US media reports. The women in US are first inculcated with guilt and then encouraged into the victim mentality so they can come out and say how they suffer. they mey even believe themselves but there is nothing natural or general about that.
Women in Soviet Union and eastern-european states have abortion by the dozen. Abortion was the onlymethod of birth-control there because even condoms were not available. They do not give a second thought about abortion except rare cases where it might have caused infertility. So it's cultural and saying "most women..." is just incorrect.
If a woman planned to have two children and has two children, why would she be hauned and wondering what the children woudl have been? They would not have been. A women does not generally worry what could have been of two dozen or so children she could have given birth in her lifetime.
The statistics that we have 40 million fewer people due to abortion is a lie. When a woman has 3 abortions in a year, does that mean she would have had 3 children in a year? If a woman has seven abortion before age 20 and then has a family and produces 3 kids, does that mean she would have had ten children otherwise? No, she would still have three! A child conseived at a wrong time could seriously disrupt a woman's life and cause her to have fewer children total, not more.
Not that I support the concept of an abortion. I just believe that the state should not be involved with it. Charity, education, private initiatives.
miko
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miko.... it's chicken or egg.. who cares if it is that we allow women to vote or if we simply don't put womanly things up for the vote?
point is... any chance women have to interfere in your life they will take it. Ending womens sufferage would reverse the trend .....while ending "progressive"libereralism would also help to solve the problem.... It is much too late. The few men that are liberals would simply be laughed at and ignored if women couldn't vote.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes avro... yes I am. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back my way before the comet hits... perhaps not. In the mean time... I will live my life the way I like to and not the way that makes me look good in your's, or anyone elses eyes.
lazs
I never said you should do anything.
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Originally posted by miko2d
That's BS. It may be what the US media reports.
One of my good friends isn't the US media? Other women I've spoken too aren't the US media? Heck, my friend was born and raised in the Middle East until just a few years ago. You get a woman pregnant, and whether she wanted that child or not; she's going to feel a connection to it. She has a connection to it. When you lose that child its like losing a small part of yourself.
Guys can brush it off a lot easier, and I'm not going to argue this point with you.. because you /won't/ understand unles somehow you magically grow a uterus, get pregnant and then have an abortion. It just isn't going to happen.
I may have been wrong in using the word 'most', because culturally it may be more acceptable in other countries... but that doesn't mean those women still don't wonder. Basic human nature doesn't really change geographically.