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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Nomak on October 10, 2003, 10:14:10 PM
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I was in the MA last night in a Spit V and I got into a fight with three other spits and a yak.
I had a ball making this film. I hope it can help someone or just make for some good entertainment.
My cpid in game now is GSX not Nomak.
Enjoy ......Nomak
http://home.comcast.net/~dbeav/4vs1.zip
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Bad file
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Crap :(
Im lookin into it
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Would anyone be willing to host this film if I mail it to them?
Its 900kb
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Sure
zip it up and send it to c_gresens@yahoo.com
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Its on the way. Thx for the help
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[http://ftp://yuccah:cwjqhn@yuccah.netfirms.com/www/4vs1.ahf
had to fix url.. Wasn't lettin me upload zip file for somereason.
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tell me if this works. If not i'll try to fix it.
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woops
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Works for me........TY for the help Sir.
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no prob
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invalid or old format film...
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Did you try to open it from its current location?
Or did you download it?
When I downloaded it i didnt have any problems.
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got it now.. ROFL.. that spit lawndarting was funny, i didnt know that was possible in the super spit :)
Good flyin
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that last spit demonstarted the perfect Zoom and Boom :rofl
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Beautifully flown! Well done!
-Ace
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Nice flying, i usually fly the spit 5 and i can say u made the most out of it ( even though some of your opponents seened to be novice pilots ).
WTG
Doc:p
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The film really looks good, excelent fight but.............
They are really unexpirenced pilots.
First Yak - you was on his 6 for 20(!) seconds - the rest of them couldn't catch you - after you shoot him down - 2 spits was on your 6 at dist of 100-200
Secondly when one of 2 spits go high the second one could catch you - he didn't.
And the last lone :lol I wouldn't call it kill more dweeb.....
And finaly - how the fight finished - not the recorded part - there were 109 and other spit diving on you?
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Yes, I am aware that they did all seem to be nOObs. Still it took me a long time to be able to pull off a fight like this......nOObs or not.
I was definatley on the Yak for to long. If I had my tracers on you would be able to see that I flat out missed 2 or 3 kill shots. I was cussing at the time cause I knew that I only had a few seconds before the others killed me.
As for what happend right after the film was over.......I was killed a minute or two later. I was out of wep, out of cannon rds, and on the deck when the 109 and about two or three more spits bounced me. Was still alot of fun. ;)
Thx for the complements fellas. :)
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That is the reason I don't turnfight I want always to have an option of disengage ;)
And I don't fly thous spits...
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Originally posted by artik
That is the reason I don't turnfight I want always to have an option of disengage ;)
And I don't fly thous spits...
you can disengage at your leisure after you kill them all.
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you can disengage at your leisure after you kill them all.
:p
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Originally posted by Shane
you can disengage at your leisure after you kill them all.
Hehehe Shane rules! :lol
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Nice film, Nomak. Thanks for posting it! That may be the first 4v1 you've won, but it surely won't be the last.
If I could offer one suggestion that could substantially improve your situational awareness based on what I saw in the film... stop zooming in when you're shooting at someone. I notice a lot of guys do this, and while it perhaps helps them to aim, it's also an absolutely nasty situational awareness killer.
You're cutting down on your peripheral vision while zoomed in on someone, and a quick six check requires unzooming, then checking six, then reacquiring the target in the front and rezooming. That extra second could mean the difference between life and death in outnumbered situations. If you watch any of my films, you'll notice that I rarely zoom on someone unless I'm assessing a distant fight, trying to figure out a far off con's heading, or I'm shooting at a fleeing plane's straight six over 500 yards when I know no other enemies are around.
Of course, this all boils down to what you feel most comfortable doing. If you can create a more accurate picture in your head of what's going on around you than I can, then zooming in or not doesn't really matter. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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WTG Nomak
Thx for the tip Levi , it's a bad habit of mine to.
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Thank you for the advice Leviathn.
<-----dislodges z key with pocket screwdriver>
:D
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Hello Nomak :)
Encountered difficulties in downloading ur film from ur & yucca's
sites, would u be so kind as to send me this film? TY :cool:
Happy1 :D
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What is your e mail addy? I will be happy to send it to ya :)
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Thx Nomak :) my addy's listed below:
Happy2@JoiMail.com
Cheers,
HYappy1 :D
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Its sent :)
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Heya Nomak, can't watch the film where I'm at right now but I'll give ya a pre-emptive WTG :).
BTW -- Those merge lessons you gave me in the DA awhile back were fantastic... Probably improved my ACM by an "order of magnitude".
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I say wtg... But ya musta just sacrificed a sheep to the goddess of luck ... those guys certianly missed some nice shots .
And the Zoom in for the shot well .... Ive gotta agree with Lev on that . it really messes up perception and SA ..
Save the zoom for picking out ground targets , buff gunning,bomb sights,and getting an angle of a far away con.
for tracers I leave them turned off . that was the biggest improvement i did for my gunnery .
when in a dogfight i have a tendency to do a SA check every 3- 5 seconds and during certian manuvers . it becomes automatic after awhile .
But winning a 4 vs 1 is tough
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hehe.....thx Ely.
I am glad our DA time paid off for ya. Isnt it amazing how much more you can learn in the DA in one night than in the MA in 6 months.
What shocks me even more is the lack of players who actually understand this.
Anyway....good to hear from ya Ely. Give me a shout sometime ;)
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in the film G forces arnt shown??
also the icon does not dissapear when the AC is lost behind the artwork...is that normal in film?
without both of these it gives the impression of a hack :(
it seemed u dont have any nose bounce as if the AC was on rails, nice n smooth. how u get rid of that?
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Originally posted by [Sg]ShotGun
in the film G forces arnt shown??
also the icon does not dissapear when the AC is lost behind the artwork...is that normal in film?
without both of these it gives the impression of a hack :(
it seemed u dont have any nose bounce as if the AC was on rails, nice n smooth. how u get rid of that?
A: No the black outs arnt present in films
A: yes thats normal
turn on "trail " and that shows the flight path with 2 red trailing lines ... with that one you will see some of the "flinching in flight "
It also helps improve your acm .
Nose bounce : some of this is caused by the combat trim being on .elevator/rudder cal needs more dampaning, and the shake from gun fire is modeled into the game
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well dont use combat trim and damping has no effect. all it does is slow down the movement of the control surfaces relative to control input and NOT the ratio of surface movement to control movement as it shood be.
iv flown for 3 yrs and cannot find pilots that make such 'bomber' manuvers in a fighter.
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I don't use "damping" to get rid of nose bounce, if by nose bounce your talking about the nose of the plane bouncing all over the place as you make those small quick adjustments with your stick as you are trying to get a shot.
I use the scaling sliders to adjust the input from the stick to control surfaces. Check out a simple explanation on how we set-up our sticks after coming to AH from Air Warrior. goto http://webpages.charter.net/maddogjoe/AcesHigh.htm and click on joystick set-up. This is how most of us have gotten rid of any nose bounce in the fighters.
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my pitch/yaw sliders make a 45* angle, maybe cept for the level of damping. roll is all at the top. its still not the problem...
the problem is that the joystick pots are so small that very little rotation of the pot translates into BIG movement of the control surface which u instantly try to correct but find uv done too much and then try to go the other way and soon ur into PIO and the nose is bouncing, uv missed ur shot and ur advantage is gone. :(
if i yank and release on the alerions, the wings will move and then stop...maybe slightly moving if im out of trim. if i do the same on yaw or pitch, the nose will slide out of position and then come back and the move again in the first direction and then move back doing this a couple of times b4 it settles down. like the behavior of skateboad u roll down the side of an MT pool, it goes up the other side, stops, comes back and then goes away, comes back, goes away etc. till it settles down at the bottom.
thats nose bounce.
the solution is to make a ratio percentage (0-100%) of control input to surface movement which is not possible with the current sliders. as i said b4, very small movement of the stick can easily cover 2 or 3 of the sliders and ur control surface goes instantly from 0% to 30% of movement. (asuming that ea slider represents only 10% of movement)
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what you describe is just what my stick use to do also. Your mentioning the pots in the stick makes me wonder what stick you are using. I use all CH stuff, and its all nice and big....bigger is better right? :)
The set-up on the web page were just a starting place, due to all the different stick avalible, with different spring tensions and such. My actual settings in the rudder and roll area have the sliders down at least 10-15% more, and I do use the dampin...at about 15% just to help slow things down. Its alot of trial and error, but MOST sticks can be made to settle down.
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CH MS TM
iv used them all, hell iv even extended the grip away from the base on my MS sidewinder by installing an extension rod and lengthning the wires to slow down the amount ov movement of the pots relative to the grip. but no joy
with the extension in place i have to move the grip farther to get the same movement of the pots. i was hoping this wood get rid of the bounce cuz i thot it was just me moving the stick too much.
but there is a lesson here, if the pilots have to use sooo much dampnin to keep the bounce under control, why isnt this problem being addressed by HTC??