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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Replicant on October 12, 2003, 05:34:21 PM
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Found this cool HAL 9000 screensaver, it displays just like the computer screens did in the film:-
http://www.mental-pictures.com/hal9000/HAL1.0/PC_ScreenSaver/hal9000.exe.zip
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My favorite Sci-Fi. Also love the book.
Thanks.
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Tnx Replicant! :)
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dear god...:eek:
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Originally posted by vorticon
dear god...:eek:
OMG! He's one of them! :(
Skuzzy!!!!
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??? your insane ozark
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Originally posted by vorticon
??? your insane ozark
Yes, why you ask?
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Originally posted by vorticon
??? your insane ozark
You're kinda slow aren't ya???
:lol
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Nice! Saw the movie the first time at its premier in Chicago, 3 projectors, curved screen, the works.
edit: Read the book based on the screen play as well as "The Sentinel" the book it was based on.
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If you liked the movie, you'll love the screen saver!
Thanks, Replicant. Very cool.
By the way, how many of you (besides Animal) have also read the book?
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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Glad you all liked the screensaver, cool eh?! :)
Actually I haven't read the book, I did start it at school but never continued with it! Since owning a computer I haven't really had time to read books :(
I think the film 2001 has aged exceptionally well to todays standards. Not many 60s films can beat that! :)
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when you read the book, everything is so MUCH MORE clearer.
...but a whole new set of mysteries pop up :)
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Exactly what I was thinking, Animal...the book really develops many ideas that aren't clearly explored in the movie.
Anyone want to hijack this post and discuss the meaning of "2001: A Space Odyssey"? :p
MRPLUTO
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Have read the book and the sequels. That tells you how good they are, I hate reading Sci-Fi but I love the movies.
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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
Anyone want to hijack this post and discuss the meaning of "2001: A Space Odyssey"? :p
MRPLUTO
Well, I won't debate the meaning but I think it's probably the best movie ever made IMHO. Afterall, it has the single greatest edit in the history of cinema.
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cool, thx :)
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I hate reading Sci-Fi but I love the movies.
The reason is because it is trully science fiction, unlike that fantasy star wars/trek crap that is pushed in our brains.
Reading 2001 you could almost believe all of it was really happening.
There are other great science fiction authors other than Clarke, namely William Gibson, but his subjects are different. What the internet is now becoming he visioned many years ago in his books.
As for the meaning of 2001, what I understand is that the monolith is a tool by a spacefaring race whose mission is to spread intelligence and consciousness through the galaxy because its what they consider the purest form of beauty.
The monolith acts by stimulating the brains of primitive life forms into developing instincts that will lead them down an evolutionary path straight to a higher intelligence. That is why the monkeys begin using tools.
The monolith on the moon is a beacon. When exposed to sunlight, it transmits a high energy radio wave to inform the godlike alien race that their experiment has succeeded. Humanity has reached the moon and has managed to dig and extract the monolith, a sure sign of very advanced intelligence.
Now the humans must follow the radio signal to its destiny in order to meet the master race.
But HAL9000 goes a lil' bonkers...
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Neal Stephenson pwn5 them all. :)
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Funked, as Peter Gabriel said "your language is strange and I have no decoder.." ;)
Gibson falls more under the cyperpunk genre of Science Fiction, my favorite current sci fi hardcore writer is Alan Steele, but Dan Simmons is right up there with Stephenson for breadth of story.
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Originally posted by Animal
The reason is because it is trully science fiction, unlike that fantasy star wars/trek crap that is pushed in our brains.
I really don't know why I can't get into Sci-Fi or even Fantasy novels. Most of the author's write in a way that makes their characters over the top or the author stays way too long in an area that just winds up making me irritated (namely, the Tom Bombadil part in The Fellowship of the Ring). History and Historical Fiction are my favorite 2 genres. But Clarke's writing in the 2001 series was great. I also really dig a lot of Michael Chrichton's books (Sphere, Eaters of the Dead, Congo...).
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Of interest, the book was not written before the movie. It was written alongside the movie. Arthur C. Clarke wrote a short story called 'The Sentinel' (which was just about the part on the moon w/ the dug up artifact transmitting), then he worked with kubrick to create the whole story. Finally, he penned the book as they were filming.
BTW, seconded, the book is a good read. Also, if you saw the movie 2010, read the book. The book has some amazing side stories (including the whole thing with the Tsien) that really flesh out the story.
2061 was where it started to go downhill. No real revolutionary ideas, just an ok space book. 3001 was garbage.
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The central theme is the evolutionary development of humankind, as Animal says. And what does Clarke say about it? This is the understanding I've come to:
(I can't find my copy of "2001" at the moment so this is from memory.)
When one of the early humans begins to use his brain, he looks at a large, long bone, starts thinking about how the tribe on the other side of the watering hole is a problem, looks at the bone again, and begins to see a "(final) solution". He isn't sure yet exactly what he'll do, "But he would think of something." He throws the bone in the air, and in the movie it turns into a space plane, invented by his descendents a few hundred thousand years later.
That's us and we are soooo advanced and impressed with our technical knowledge! But something is missing. This is hinted at in the scene between the guy on the way to the moon and his daughter when he calls to wish her happy birthday. What's missing?--a certain humanity, replaced by technological substitutes. We must evolve beyond what we are today.
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After the astronaut, Dave, encounters the higher intelligence he evolves rapidly into the Starchild and returns to Earth, embryonic, yet mentally & spiritually light-years ahead of the humans he once was.
This is not in the movie, but is in the book:
As the Starchild nears the Earth, this unknown intruder is locked onto by every weapon available. The Starchild knows this, and isn't sure what do to next. "But he would think of something."
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Martin Luther King, Jr. understood this when he said, "We live in an age of guided missles and misguided men." Or something like that.
We must change how we deal with each other if we are to survive. Evolve or perish. Humanity has experienced the good and bad of the blessings of technological achievement. But our learning will be our destruction if we do not evolve wisdom to guide our use of it.
MRPLUTO
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Minor nit, the bone disapears and is replaced by a satellite. In the written notes for the movie, it's specifically a nuclear attack satellite (which is the perfect transition from the early bone weapon).
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Minor nit, the bone disapears and is replaced by a satellite. In the written notes for the movie, it's specifically a nuclear attack satellite (which is the perfect transition from the early bone weapon).
And thus the greastest edit in the history of cinema was born...
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Thanks for that detail, Chairboy. Never heard that before.
MRPLUTO
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Hehehe... look at the alphanumeric codes on the screen... :cool:
(http://personales.ya.com/xavimm/HAL9000.jpg)
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Good eye, DA98. But, perhaps you have something better to do than study the meaningless details on your new screen saver? Then who am I to talk; I did the same thing! :D
MRPLUTO
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Yes, what is ST Pro Gel exactly? Does it have something to do with Arthur C Clarkes other 'hobby' :D
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Another one of the screens reads "voight kampff", a reference to the A.I test in 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' by Philip K. Dick (this book was later adapted into the movie 'Blade Runner')
I'm such a nerd sometimes. Cya, I gotta compensate with getting drunk and laid.
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Animal,
I noticed that "voight kampf" and wondered where that came from; I can't believe of all the references you picked out the one I had wondered about. Amazing. Similar thing the other day: I went to the grocery store, and while there thought, "I've got to call Cecelia (a woman I work with) when I get home. Not a minute later, there is Cecelia, shopping at a Giant 10 miles from home. We greeted each other, and I said I had just come to buy rice milk, but didn't know where it was. "Oh, it's right here", she said, pointing to a shelf I couldn't see, but just a few feet from me. Cecelia, MRPLUTO, and the rice milk all converged in time and space as if planned that way. I'll bet Rod Serling (creator of "The Twilight Zone") was there, too, but we just didn't see him.
MRPLUTO
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Hehe, freaky when stuff like that happens.
I have a friend who, for the period of maybe half a year, I almost always had a freak phone occurence.
When I thought "I gotta call Rosaura", and picked the phone ready to dial, the phone ringed and it was her calling me. And its not like we constantly talked on the phone. Maybe once a week, at completly different times. It happened very often and always freaked me out a little (and turned me on)
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For thought he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next. But he would think of something
That is one of my favorite quotes ever.
I really enjoyed the book based on the screeplay. I haven't read "The Sentinal" though. The movie based book really helped me understand the whole movie better when I was 17.
-Sik
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A karmic connection there, Animal!
Another time I was walking along Columbia Road in Washington, DC and there were five cars parked in a row a long the street: red, blue, red, blue, red. All were compact cars, but the weird thing was that the red and blue colors were all the same odd shade of each color. It was quite striking, and unless some artist orchestrated it, which I seriously doubt, it was a purely chance occurence.
sikboy,
Thanks for the exact quote; one of my favorites too.
MRPLUTO
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Originally posted by JimBear
Funked, as Peter Gabriel said "your language is strange and I have no decoder.." ;)
Gibson falls more under the cyperpunk genre of Science Fiction, my favorite current sci fi hardcore writer is Alan Steele, but Dan Simmons is right up there with Stephenson for breadth of story.
Don't believe I've read Alan Steele. Ready for some new reading, will check him out.
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Iwouldn't say Gibson falls under the cyberpunk genre of SF. I'd say he invented it.
First read Neuromancer in '85, I think. Blew me away. Johnny Mnemonic, in "Burning Chrome", is the most vivid and imaginative short story I have ever read.
He has sort of become a lame knock-off of himself though. That's too bad.
Just started Neil’s Quicksilver: The Baroque Cycle.