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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bloom25 on May 17, 2001, 11:59:00 PM
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This tour I haven't been able to play much due to a ton of work. Tonight I finally got to log on for about the 3rd time in 2 weeks.
Here's what I found:
(http://www.engr.orst.edu/~bloom/roster.jpg)
What happened to the knights? The last time I was able to play the numbers were fairly even.
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bloom25
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(Formerly of the)
THUNDERBIRDS
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I dunno...
ever since I showed up it's been like this.
funny coincidence I suppose... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Otter
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Just like always, I think it has to do with what time you enter the arena. That, and I hear there was a shortage in Knitland on Leather LuftWaffle panties, which caused a mass migration to other countries that can keep up with demand. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
SOB
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I think ur right SOB.......added with the fact that being a knit is like being a Hoover Upright Vacuum Cleaner. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) <G,D,R>
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milnko, open your ICQ (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I hope WWIIOL has more even sides.
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If I log on and find Knight numbers like that, and our radar is down, I simply log off.
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Even with numbers like that, we were still able to fight, take a base & have fun.
BgMAW
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Staga, I seriously doubt that. From what I heard from the running beta Axis will have a hard stand against the allies... but since LW pilots are superior anyway it does not matterl... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
BTW, read Santas thread... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I noticed that the Allied squads in WWIIOL out number the Axis about 2-1.
I had the same concern, but who knows how it will shape up after release.
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3rdUp
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Actually the numbers werent that lopsided when I first logged on, but the Knit radar went down and then the Knits started dropping like flies.
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Originally posted by sling322:
Actually the numbers werent that lopsided when I first logged on, but the Knit radar went down and then the Knits started dropping like flies.
Not good for any country, or HTC business for that matter.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Not good for any country, or HTC business for that matter.
Always been my opinion to.
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I've played AH so little this tour that I was kind of surprised to see this. It wasn't much fun getting gangbanged with no radar and only 4 bases. When I was online we did manage to take a base, but with only 19 people online we didn't stand a chance. After a couple sorties I got thinking about how much work I had (have (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) ) left to do and decided I was just wasting time.
I hope HTC comes up with some way to discourage this in the future. (Give lots of perk points to the underdogs when they take a base or get a kill? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) Something needs to be done though.
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bloom25
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(Formerly of the)
THUNDERBIRDS
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Complete removal of all radar is just bad. Folks will log out. Heck I'll log out. I'm not interested in wandering around looking for guys to fight.
Dropping HQ should shut down arena-wide radar, but we should still have radar close to any active fields. Drop the radar at the field, and lose dot radar. We should NEVER be without a dar bar at least near fields we still own.
Some sort of bonuses to compensate for being heavily out-numbered would be good. Free perk planes, etc. More perkies to the downtroden... whatever. Just something to make the losing side attractive to folks. Do that, and the numbers will tend to balance out more I think.
BTW, had a BLAST last night defending A1. An absolutely HUGE furball went on for an hour or more. The Biscuits had a CV out E of the field far enough away that the fighting took place away from acks and both sides had some altitude. There were times when the Bish attacked and drove us back near our ack, but overall there was just a really nice big furball. Sweet!
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Yep, Leph, I agree about DAR. Personally, I don't think we should have global dar anyway. I think the map should
1. display local (say 25 mile radius, altitude of 800ft ABOVE the ground - not altimeter reading) dar dots.
2. increase the field ack - make it tougher to take down local dar. None of this 20mm stuff, 1k direct hit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
3. the strat chart should give you a way to look at the dar map for any FRIENDLY area -- perhaps this would be similar to calling a friendly base and saying "how are you doing?" Perhaps information about ack status in addition to hangar status
4. get rid of the freaking sector bars completely.
5. keep the factories and HQ. Damage to HQ and factories would continue to have the same effect it does now, but with no global dar, no effect.
This would bring so many benefits:
a. Low-level sneak raids become possible. Man, everyone loves them, why isn't HTC listening to this? Not only are they fun, but low-level sneak raids give outnumbered sides a way to recover!
b. Loss of global dar is such a downer (given that your opponents have it) and can thwart your moves.
c. No dar is worse than night - folks loggout -- bad for business HTC.
d. No global dar would discourage massive furballs.
AKcurly
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I'm kinda feeling like bloom. Although I have been on in the a.m. and Late p.m. it is just tough when its 30 to 10 or lompsided like that. easy to find a fight when ya only have 4 bases...Tough to find a fair fight when ya only have 4 bases. Not whinning , I'm kinda getting used to having my bellybutton handed to me on a platter by 3 to 10 enemies.
My biggest thing is the lack or support when there is numbers even..It seems like (IMHO) that it has gotten to be a big gang bang all the time. No coordinating attacks and such. This certainly could be due to my time on though. Just seems that way.
Jackal
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Fear not fellow Nits! I just got a new computer and will be back in the MA, after months way, late tonight. I can here the glorious crys now. "Thrawn? Who the hell is Thrawn? And what's with his run on sentences?" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Thrawn (edited 05-18-2001).]
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heh Kniggits are still decent pilots.
But their appreciation of strategy has gone down the drain.
Once, 9./JG54 prked all the fh at front fields to facilitate a capture of 44.
No knights took off for 44, preferring to be bogged down but 3 (three) enemy fighters hovering over one of our fields.
Another xample: "44 is under attack, 44 44 44 44 44 is under attack!"
<9./JG 54 race there one by one>
"44 44 44!"
<Field 44 has been captured by the Rooks>
"DAMN"
"Wow we lost 44"
"Why didn't any1 tell us?"
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
But, it still got the best characters in the game, and some very cool loyal dudes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://stsantas.tripod.com/stsanta.jpg)
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Bloom25 this is no surprise! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) That’s the reason that I became a Night back in beta 1. Rooks 25, Knights 5, Bishops 30. Knights were always underdogs, but we still preformed well. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I know it is very different now, some things better some things not. It is what it is and I still love it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif) By the way who is this Cobra guy? First a Bishop then a Knight and then a Rook! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Well he has been a Rook for a while now.............
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I Hate It When That Happens!
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Baaaaa....
Since we dont have reset stats i really cant prove this but....Knights have yet to have a victory this tour. big deal, it all boils down to the rotating SQ thingy, we dont have some of the other SQs we had last TOD. WE simply dont have the numbers this TOD to produce wins. Just a slump - no worries fellow niggits.
Certainly no lack of targets this TOD, bring it on!
LaVa
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It's this map.
Words can't express how much I HATE this map. It encourages gangbangs. Bishop, Knight, or Rook, there is rarely a time when it's not 2 on 1 for extended periods of time. Want to sneak a base? Hit the enemy where they don't expect it? Forget it. Bar Dar prevents it. So, you have two fronts, neither of which is over 3 bases wide, and usually two. They know where you have to come from. They know where you are going. It's no wonder that, night after night, the entire MA condenses into massive furballs over A1 and A39. There's not much else to do.
The Rooks have been reset twice in the last 24 hours because the Knights and Bishops have spent massive amounts of time NOT fighting each other. Put that together with 70 Bishops, 45 Knights and 30 or so Rooks on line, and you have an experience that is decidedly not fun for Rooks who care about strategy and winning resets. I'm sure it's the same with the other teams, on the rare occasions when it happens to them.
Combine it all with the fact that, being the contrary, independent cusses that we are, none of us on any team can seem to work together, and it gets even worse. This could be addressed by HTC if they would make participating in a mission and/or winning a reset WORTH SOMETHING. Perks just don't cut it. Most players don't feel that perks buy you anything worth having anyway. An Arado, a Tempest, a 152 or a CHog, big freaking deal.
Any more, the only playtime in AH that I find worthwhile is when we have enough Mullets (tm) online to make our own in-house missions for taking bases, or to defend hotly contested bases. When we're together and having that kind of fun, even the many deaths attributable to my own stupidity don't seem so bad.
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Well another tour and guess what happens again .
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008628.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008628.html)
Yep this map is not the best , I for one hated it .
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/001191.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/001191.html)
I loved this one
(http://members.theglobe.com/airspro/GREATMAP.JPG)
cheers
spro
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poor rooks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) BTW degas , knights are the ones in the bucket this camp . I always fight biscuits , mostly cause they whine better .
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Wait a second! That's exactly why I fight Knits, ya pansie! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by StSanta:
Another xample: "44 is under attack, 44 44 44 44 44 is under attack!"
<9./JG 54 race there one by one>
"44 44 44!"
<Field 44 has been captured by the Rooks>
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44 contains bad mojo and is so full of bishrook voodoo that it refuses capture - we have tried to get 44 for 6 weeks now - it just can't be captured. Whenever i fly close to 44 i hear the sickening moaning of dead knigget drunks...
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BigUC
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That knights are outnumbered is only a way to balance the arena, if knights would have same number as rooks or bish we would reset you BOTH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
This is of course thanks to Luftwaffe! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/jg5wilbus.gif)
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Rasmus "Wilbus" Mattsson
III/JG5 Eismeer
Livestock Liberation Front
"Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be."
Adolf Galland
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Bloom you have broken the Knights-Anti-Whine-About-Numbers code of ethics.
<swings rope>
Someone grab him... I know me a good hangin tree.
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airspro - ahh yeah, you just brought back some fond memorys.
I hope that map is in the rotation in the new release. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
LaVa