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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: twitchy on October 13, 2003, 11:30:13 AM
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We have got to do something about the freaking spies in the MA man, last night we had a guy giving out the location of our troops on local channel, when we asked him who he was talking to he realized he had slipped up and used the wrong channel and logged, while enemy fighters raced in on our NOE mission. It is FAR too easy to spy, and the private messaging and multiple account is the culprit. You should not be able to private message players on another country in the MA. While yes spies are a part of 'real world' war, in real world war, there are consquences for spying, but in this game they get away with it and more often than you might think. :mad:
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If someone wants to spy by parachuting onto a hill overlooking an enemy field and send back reports, that's fine. He can be discovered and killed.
But someone who changes sides cannot be discovered unless he slips-up, like this fellow did. And they can never be stopped by using weapons.
People who do this wreck the game, but think they are being very clever.
twitchy, do you remember his callsign? It would be good to publish it so that others can be forewarned, and maybe he'll be shamed by it.
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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Even though it's lame, it doesn't bother me all that much.
Someone that creates an account just to spy obviously misses the point of the game.
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I think possible improvement would be to eliminate under-dar dots, both friendly & enemy. This would make a countryman less likely/unable to report NOE attacks to others.
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Does anyone know what radar type is modeled in AH. Like range capabilities,ect...
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We need to "control" the guys who use the spy's information. That is just as bad as actually doing the spying, in my opinion.
shubie
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Spies were part of WWII.
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Hmmm....probably just me but I think your taking this a bit seriously. After all, ITS A GAME...a poorly designed one (strategically) at that. Do you really care if someone "spies" on you. The original concept of the game was/is to simulate aerial combat between fighters from the WW2 era. The bases etc provide a framework to enable this. Unforunately a great majority of the playerbase has devolved to a semi-skilled gangbanging landgrabbing mass better suited to quake or some other mindnumbing and senseless pursuit. It's the confrontation, not the conquest that provides the value to the entire undertaking.
Again just my 2 cents....
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makes every thread a commentary about the strat vs. furball issue.
Off topic, humble.
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Some people with two accounts aren't very smart with their spy alias, and therefore very easy to spot. Like AKAK and AKAK1 for example. :D
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
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Spies were part of WWII.
Spies were a part of WWII. However, this is not war, this is a game, with rules, and ways to play fair.
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Spies are cool. They get all the hot chicks.
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Originally posted by humble
It's the confrontation, not the conquest that provides the value to the entire undertaking.
what part of this is so hard to grasp? i think it'd be more satisfying to put together a well organized and tasked mission and boldly dare anyone to stop you (and actually pull it off), than taking 20 guys and trying to "sneak" something in a sector that has zero action ongoing.
besides bases flash when planes approach regardless of radar, and most maps there are very few "holes" in dar coverage for a mission to run thru and all it takes is just one, just one, goober drifting above radar alt to trigger a dar bar and hence alert some sharp-eyed map monitor.
given even a 5 min window of response, a defender can grab to 10-15k agl and there's no way in hell any goon in the NOE raid is gonna get past that defender (if he has a clue).
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Originally posted by acepilot2
However, this is not war, this is a game, with rules, and ways to play fair.
really?!?!? please post them for all to see... or at least a link to them or something.
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Originally posted by rshubert
makes every thread a commentary about the strat vs. furball issue.
Off topic, humble.
It's not OFF TOPIC at all....nor is it a "stratagy vs furball" question...It's really a "why bother" question...and from the signature on your post it's pretty clear responding to you probably isn't worth the time anyway.
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Originally posted by Shane
really?!?!? please post them for all to see... or at least a link to them or something.
He's talking about "style", no need to try and understand.
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oooo if that's so, i do understand.... i mean there's nothing more "fair" than a gangbang, now is there?
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I didnt think so, the end justifies the means?
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There's lots of stuff going on in the arena. So what if on the other side of the map some goobers are trying to sneak grab an undefended base, and some other goober spending an extra $15/Mo to squeel on them (EEEeeEEeeeEEEEeeEEE). If you just stop looking at the map and focus on the battle at hand, the other stuff won't bother you. After all, when it comes to capturing the arena, all that matters is whose got the most players... spies or not.
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Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
That's the most pathetic thing I've heard in a long time, well, since the 'hanging chad' thingy anyway. :D
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Originally posted by Furious
Spies are cool. They get all the hot chicks.
LMAO!!!! :)
Thanks I needed a good chuckle :)
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Originally posted by Furious
Spies are cool. They get all the hot chicks.
Don't forget the cars!
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LOL :D somone actually spend 15$ a month to do that :rofl
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
Thats the guy that landed 65 kills in a Yak9u the other night!!
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
WOW.
When did Rags sign up?
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Thats the guy that landed 65 kills in a Yak9u the other night!!
lol this get better and better is it really possible to have so low selfconfindece, that this is the way to fix it :rofl
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Originally posted by Furious
Spies are cool. They get all the hot chicks.
Just NEVER borrow their pens!!
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
Ooooh yeah. Let him know. He cares.
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Some one posted a thread asking to reveal the name of the spy, and I will gladly do so inthe next thread, we are going to review the film and make sure first though... I think one solution to the issue of spying would be to eliminate cross country private messages. And yeah guys spies are part of real combat, but like i said when you get caught spying in the real world, you get tried for treason and 'removed'. They need to come up with something though as the problem is really out of hand. I cant believe somebody vulches themselves... LOL Of course HT cant' go reviewing all the films we send em nor can they realisitcally review all the private messages sent, so if there is going to be a solution, it looks like it is going to have to come fromthe players themselves, My suggestion would be for us to compile a thread and list the names of confirmed spies, but if we do this we need to have the proof to back it up (i.e. films) or everybody and their brother will end up on the list... I will start a new thread when i get a chance and name the spy, and would be nice to see you guys posting them as well, it wont stop em from spying i guess but at least we would know who the loosers are so we can avoid their locations int he MA... Oh yeah, shane, try xannax...
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There is an interesting bug in the MA. If you go AFK an the field you are in the tower of gets captured, then you sometimes get sent to the tower of an enemy field. I have come back from AFK and found this to be true. From there it is easy to report on details of aircraft, headings, etc.
Bear that in mind.
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Twitchy ...email me.
bumba
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Originally posted by Gixer
Some people with two accounts aren't very smart with their spy alias, and therefore very easy to spot. Like AKAK and AKAK1 for example. :D
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
Damn, someone figured out my shades account
BTW- still missing that 1/3 picture
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Originally posted by Sox62
WOW.
When did Rags sign up?
A kill has been recorded...
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Furious
Spies are cool. They get all the hot chicks.
I could tell you how we do it but then I'd have to kill you.
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im a spy.......
.....so im told :rolleyes:
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If I'm a Spy, I'd like one of them Daimler Armoured cars, like Rommel had. Spies are a part of this game. Would ANY of you squelch someone giving locations? I rest my case.
Karaya
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Originally posted by TW9
Hehe saw something like this 1st hand last week.. 2 guys (kids) we're spawn camping 1 of their extra accounts.. One of em had 101 kills when i popped em and the other kept landing m8's w/ 40+ kills.. At 1st i thought nothing of it then i realized they were camping the same guy for like 2hrs straight (can someone be that bored?)..
Really? Maybe HT or Skuzzy needs to be contacted concerning this. Whoever created the second account couldnt have had any good intentions that I can think of.
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Spies in AH??? That's ridkulus!!!
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Think thats low? There is a guy still online that resorted to vulching himself (second account). I guess thats just his way of spending $15. Havent told HT about it. He probably wouldnt care anyway.
Yet another good reason for a "Kill Board" showing the names of the last X number of players a player killed.
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I just identified one of the handles that is using this feature. What we need is a host to post these IDs to.
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I started a thread to list all the spies, and then when i go to check the replies this morning, it says I dont have permission to access the thread... WTF? :mad:
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vaporized by the gods of bad posts....
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twitchy, you are creating more problems than you have any knowledge of. We will not tolerate players pointing fingers at other players in this manner. It creates more problems than it solves.