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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Asmodan PL on May 18, 2001, 01:01:00 PM
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Alexey Petrovich Maresyev, the Soviet fighter pilot who lost his legs and still flew, scoring 16 personal victories.... 11 of them w/o both legs.
he died 2 days before he was 85 :-(
today... In the Soviet Army theatre, 2 hours before his celebration party....
He was a Real Man... One of the last...
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Asmodan
308 (Polish) Squadron RAF "City of Cracow"
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[This message has been edited by Asmodan PL (edited 05-18-2001).]
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salute
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3rdUp
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<S> Maresyev!
He fought against tyranny.
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ohh damn this is very sad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) His name was probably more known in Russia then that of Kozhedub and Pokryshkin.
btw, Meresyev flew in 63 GFAR (guards fighter air regiment), unit that was tasked with army evaluation of La-7. From the end of August 1944 to October of that year, unit gained 55 confirmed victories, for the loss of only 4 aircraft.
mx22
[This message has been edited by mx22 (edited 05-18-2001).]
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Sad to here this.Another GREAT one moves on.
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Frodo
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He fought against tyranny.
And for it.
May he rest in peace.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Originally posted by Jochen:
And for it.
No he didn't fight for it. He fought for survival of his people, just like any Slav or a Jew did in WWII. Even aristocrats of the Czarist Russian Empire who weren't really happy with Stalin's regime or true communists who were exterminated by the same Stalin understood that that war was not about the regime and helped the Soviet Army with whatever they could (including sizeable donations).
So do not besmirch the memory.
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i'm not sure if Bader has died yet or not...but if he has i'm sure the two of them are up there comparing notes now
anyways Alexey, allways sad to see another ace pass on.....Clear skies
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Originally posted by Wisk-=VF-101=-:
No he didn't fight for it. He fought for survival of his people, just like any Slav or a Jew did in WWII.
...and axis pilots only fought exclusively for the tyranny? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
<S> May he rest in peace.
1Wmaker1
Lentolaivue 34
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Most importantly, he fought for his country, and what *he* believed in.
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ohhh ...........
So far from home, I didnt even know untill now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
I have a book wich is sighned by Meresyev, and met him once. He was a MAN.
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Best regards
Dmitry aka vfGhosty
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No he didn't fight for it. He fought for survival of his people, just like any Slav or a Jew did in WWII.
Bull-shrecking-shite.
Did those slavs that invaded Finland in autumn 1939 fight for their survival?
No they didn't. They were instrument of tyranny in plot to assimilate independent Finland to Soviet Union. Fortunately they failed to do so.
And please study what happened after the war and come tell me Soviet Union wasn't tyranny.
I do not belittle memory of any veteran. They did what was called for.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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I do not belittle memory of any veteran. They did what was called for
Would you pull your head from your six and see the things? Maresyev was a GREAT MAN refused to be handicapped when medics cut his both legs just below knee. Had he done it for Stalin? regime of tyranny? Please......
Great pilot had died, THE GREATEST PILOT and MAN I knew and you bring this crap into the thread that was started in his honor.
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Best regards
Dmitry aka vfGhosty
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Thank god their invaded and grabed some land. Because if that would not have been done, in 1941 Leningrad would have been overrun in a matter of months.
P.S. I believe there was another thread on war with Finland and have no f%&king idea why you had to bring that up in here.
mx22
Originally posted by Jochen:
Bull-shrecking-shite.
Did those slavs that invaded Finland in autumn 1939 fight for their survival?
No they didn't. They were instrument of tyranny in plot to assimilate independent Finland to Soviet Union. Fortunately they failed to do so.
And please study what happened after the war and come tell me Soviet Union wasn't tyranny.
I do not belittle memory of any veteran. They did what was called for.
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Maresyev was a GREAT MAN refused to be handicapped when medics cut his both legs just below knee. Had he done it for Stalin? regime of tyranny? Please...
So you basically are saying that Soviet Union was not a tyranny during WWII?
Think this:
He fought against tyranny, ie Hitler and germany. So german soldiers fought for tyranny.
He was soldier too like those germans fighting for tyranny. If (and when) Soviet Union was tyranny, he was just like those germans, fighting for tyranny against tyranny.
Simple eh?
Thank god their invaded and grabed some land. Because if that would not have been done, in 1941 Leningrad would have been overrun in a matter of months.
Actually Soviet's might have been better of for not attacking Finland and securing a buffer zone near Leningrad. That buffer zone was recaptured (and some genuine SU territory) by Finland during early Barbarossa. If Soviet Union would have left Finns alone we wouldn't have attacked Soviet Union at all, making supply of Leningrad much easier and preventing the lenghty siege.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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what MX22 said: take this subject to where it belongs - history, o-club, another thread about how Soviet were bad... just NOT in here.....
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Best regards
Dmitry aka vfGhosty
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Originally posted by Jochen:
Actually Soviet's might have been better of for not attacking Finland and securing a buffer zone near Leningrad. That buffer zone was recaptured (and some genuine SU territory) by Finland during early Barbarossa. If Soviet Union would have left Finns alone we wouldn't have attacked Soviet Union at all, making supply of Leningrad much easier and preventing the lenghty siege.
Are you kidding me? Finland would have been forced to join Germany no matter if there was Winter War or not. Finland's government had to either support Germany or live in danger of being overthrown.
mx22
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<S> to a great fighter pilot and a man of great stubbornness.
Also:
Mx22, apparently you do not that before the truce of Moscow (välirauha... englanniksi mitä?) that came into effect on 13. March 1940 Finns had absolutely no ties with the Nazi Germany. So please crawl back into whatever hole you came from and stop spewing the products of your overactive imagination all over the place.
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Originally posted by SageFIN:
Also:
Mx22, apparently you do not that before the truce of Moscow (välirauha... englanniksi mitä?) that came into effect on 13. March 1940 Finns had absolutely no ties with the Nazi Germany. So please crawl back into whatever hole you came from and stop spewing the products of your overactive imagination all over the place.
We all know what happened when European countries didn't support what Germany wanted from them. They either got invaded or puppet (sp?) governments were installed that supported Nazi regime.
mx22
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Guys ! plizz stop that,
Truth is that every European country is teaching a little deferent History, that's why there are some misunderstandings.
I had a great example of that when I was in U.K. so now nothing can suprise me about deferent history views from deferent nations.
It just doesn't makes sense to jump on itch other.
Topic where that a great man died, and great man he was ! he was Russian, and poles have more reasons to hate Russia then every other European country !!! but we do not hate them that is the past and that's all. So plizz guys from Finland, take your fight to O-Club.