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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mickey1992 on October 15, 2003, 01:37:51 PM
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I know this is REALLY off topic, but I need to try and find an answer quick, and everyone here seems to know everything. :D
If one needed to replace the fuel pump on a '95 Camero, would one have to remove the gas tank to get to it?
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Awww man, fuel pumps?
I thought this was going to be a thread about mullet grooming tips?
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I had a 94 camaro, but don't know if the fuel pump was internal to the tank or external.
Call the local dealership mechanic and ask. That would be the quickest.....
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Just had the fuel unit replaced on my '96 Camaro. You have to drop the rear end differential as a first step and then the fuel tank to get to the fuel unit.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Just had the fuel unit replaced on my '96 Camaro. You have to drop the rear end differential as a first step and then the fuel tank to get to the fuel unit.
Darn it. I was hoping the dealership was lying to me. Now I have to decide if I want to pay $1K to fix it or finally trade it in.
Thanks.
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$1K is still cheaper than a new car. Look, you have 2 options for any car that you buy: a car payment or maintenance to sustain that car that's paid off. There is no free ride. Trust me, I managed an auto repair shop for 6 years and saw some crazy stuff happen. I once called a customer who needed new tires on his '98 C220 and he told me that he would just trade it in on a new car. :rolleyes:
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Can you just bypass the one in the tank with an inline pump, most intank pumps will allow fuel to be pulled through them when dead. An inline pump should not cost that much and may be worth a try. Just get one with the flow rate and PSI the same (or close) and give it a try.
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Can you just bypass the one in the tank with an inline pump, most intank pumps will allow fuel to be pulled through them when dead. An inline pump should not cost that much and may be worth a try. Just get one with the flow rate and PSI the same (or close) and give it a try.
While this is true, it usually will significantly reduce the life of the inline pump.
Mickey a fuel pump is cheap and its really not all that hard to do yourself if you have basic handtools. It will probbily take the better part of a day if you've never done it before. Like someone said you need to remove the rear axle (easy.)
BEWARE I have seen pics of some shops that cut the rear floorboard out to access the pump without dropping the axle. I've even seen proof of a DEALERSHIP doing this. IF you take it somewhere, make sure they do it RIGHT!
$1,000 is alot to change a $100 part. If you can swing the labor yourself, you'll save alot of $$$
BTW its spelled camAro.
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I think somebody needs to grab the head engineer at GM and give him a rectal exam with one of their fuel pumps...but leave it in the damned tank.
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Originally posted by TPIguy
While this is true, it usually will significantly reduce the life of the inline pump.
Mickey a fuel pump is cheap and its really not all that hard to do yourself if you have basic handtools. It will probbily take the better part of a day if you've never done it before. Like someone said you need to remove the rear axle (easy.)
BEWARE I have seen pics of some shops that cut the rear floorboard out to access the pump without dropping the axle. I've even seen proof of a DEALERSHIP doing this. IF you take it somewhere, make sure they do it RIGHT!
$1,000 is alot to change a $100 part. If you can swing the labor yourself, you'll save alot of $$$
BTW its spelled camAro.
Typical modern day Chevy, over-engineered to cut production cost without thinking that *maybe* someone might have to work on it someday. :mad:
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Typical modern day Chevy, over-engineered to cut production cost without thinking that *maybe* someone might have to work on it someday.
The 3 fords in the family all have in-tank pumps. The bronco was easy cause we already had the entire rear apart. I just hope the one in the t-bird never goes...
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Typical modern day Chevy, over-engineered to cut production cost without thinking that *maybe* someone might have to work on it someday. :mad:
Hehehe, may your next car be a Benz...
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Hehehe, may your next car be a Benz...
We had a 1987 Camaro, sold it for the Ford F150 in 1991, the Camaro was a P.O.S. and a P.I.T.A. to do even the simplist procedure.
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So, like I said, may you experience the unrivalled German engineering of a Benz...
This fuel unit has been the first thing that I have had to do that made it so I had to take it to a shop for repair. Other than that, 61,000 miles, 2 batteries, a couple of fan belts, a window switch and an A/C compressor later it still runs like a dream.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
So, like I said, may you experience the unrivalled German engineering of a Benz...
This fuel unit has been the first thing that I have had to do that made it so I had to take it to a shop for repair. Other than that, 61,000 miles, 2 batteries, a couple of fan belts, a window switch and an A/C compressor later it still runs like a dream.
I see soooo many Benz and BMWs that are 30 years old with ORIGINAL engines in them, its unbelievable. You take a 30-40 year old American auto and its on its 3rd engine.
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Yes it's plainly obvious by the "original engine" bumper stickers they all have.
If they don't have the sticker, Rip uses his X-ray specs to check the numbers on the block and chassis.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I see soooo many Benz and BMWs that are 30 years old with ORIGINAL engines in them, its unbelievable. You take a 30-40 year old American auto and its on its 3rd engine.
Rip-
That's the exception, not the rule. You will see alot of them that don't have the original eniges and/or have them but have been rebuilt. Although I concede that the Benz diesels can go on for a good while, their gas fueled engines last no longer than any American made ones. Just remember, the typical Benz/BMW owner has paid a lot of money for their car and, across the board, can take better care of thier vehicles. Most of the American car owners want to shade tree their cars and thus, they are on their 3rd engine after ten years.
The keys to engine endurance is regular oil changes and not abusing the engine. Managing that Benz repair shop I got to see a good number of engines replaced/rebuilt. Benz has a history of engine faults; single roller timing chains (U.S. M117's), wrong pistons installed in the engine (Many M103's), incorrect engine deck machining that caused massive oil leaks at the back of the cylinder head (M104's) and hydrostatic lock from oil being put in the engine and locking a cylinder due to poor design of the cylinder head (M606's), not to mention the collasal failure of the "trap oxidizer" installed on M603's (W126's and W124's).
There are alot out their with their original engines, just not as many as you think.
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I see soooo many Benz and BMWs that are 30 years old with ORIGINAL engines in them, its unbelievable. You take a 30-40 year old American auto and its on its 3rd engine.
Tell that to my buddy who just got done installing a turbo on an original unrebuilt 200K+ mile slant 6.
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Any car thats got 200+ thousand miles on it is junk. If you want to know whos got the longest lasting car, thats Mercedes. In terms of performance after 150k miles, oh please you must be kidding.
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just passed 170 k on 1991 toyota truck with 22r decendent.
total cost since new one timing chain one clutch one starter.
one change of fan belts. the ones on it are from 97.
still gets 30 per gallon on the highway with ac on ( original compressor charged once since new)
no one touches the japanese. the thing astounds me.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Rip-
That's the exception, not the rule. You will see alot of them that don't have the original eniges and/or have them but have been rebuilt. Although I concede that the Benz diesels can go on for a good while, their gas fueled engines last no longer than any American made ones. Just remember, the typical Benz/BMW owner has paid a lot of money for their car and, across the board, can take better care of thier vehicles. Most of the American car owners want to shade tree their cars and thus, they are on their 3rd engine after ten years.
The keys to engine endurance is regular oil changes and not abusing the engine. Managing that Benz repair shop I got to see a good number of engines replaced/rebuilt. Benz has a history of engine faults; single roller timing chains (U.S. M117's), wrong pistons installed in the engine (Many M103's), incorrect engine deck machining that caused massive oil leaks at the back of the cylinder head (M104's) and hydrostatic lock from oil being put in the engine and locking a cylinder due to poor design of the cylinder head (M606's), not to mention the collasal failure of the "trap oxidizer" installed on M603's (W126's and W124's).
There are alot out their with their original engines, just not as many as you think.
you thikn benzes are bad?? :mad: you ought to get a holt of a new beemer. these things are absulutey junkers. my old chevroelt wagon is a heckuva better ride. :mad: all around. bettter stlying and qwality. beemers are JUNK :mad: :mad: :mad: good for bug spraying is all!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
just passed 170 k on 1991 toyota truck with 22r decendent.
total cost since new one timing chain one clutch one starter.
one change of fan belts. the ones on it are from 97.
still gets 30 per gallon on the highway with ac on ( original compressor charged once since new)
no one touches the japanese. the thing astounds me.
4 banger Toyota trucks are awesome. Those things will never die. Datsun ain't bad either.
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I upgraded my fuel pump last spring.
Popped the hatch
Moved the rug outta the way in the truck
4 screws later - tank accessed
Pulled pump out
Removed
replaced
and put it all back
took 30 minutes
mmmmm and people say rotaries are a *****!