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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: ACE108 on October 15, 2003, 05:14:59 PM
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try this post again
Have Diamond Viper 770 32meg
cpu 533
ram 384 Meg
this is what I got when run it.
ACESHIGH caused an invalid page fault in
module ACESHIGH.EXE at 017f:00439beb.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00439beb EFLGS=00010202
EBX=01e9e776 SS=0187 ESP=01e9d594 EBP=00000001
ECX=ffffff1b DS=0187 ESI=00a0aa20 FS=137f
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=01e9e72c GS=1867
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 57 50 ff 51 10 33 c0 b9 35 00 00 00 8d 7c
Stack dump:
0000779a 01e9e744 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
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As soon as I attempt to launch AH II I get a grey
square on the screen about 640x380 size then
the "page fault" box pops up. Here's the info:
ACESHIGH caused an invalid page fault in
module ACESHIGH.EXE at 018f:00439beb.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=018f EIP=00439beb EFLGS=00010202
EBX=01e9e776 SS=0197 ESP=01e9d594 EBP=00000001
ECX=ffffff1b DS=0197 ESI=00a0aa20 FS=1177
EDX=00000000 ES=0197 EDI=01e9e72c GS=4877
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 57 50 ff 51 10 33 c0 b9 35 00 00 00 8d 7c
Stack dump:
0000779a 01e9e744 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
System Specs:
Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~1300MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 61MB used, 322MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
Motherboard: Abit KT133
Video card: ATI All-in-Wonder 128 Pro Ultra AGP
Sound card: Creative SBLive! Value
Game controllers: Saitek X36 USB, CH Pro rudder pedals
Disply settings ( desktop ):1024x768 32-bit color
I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled and got the same results.
=GB=
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Same here, GPF:
ACESHIGH caused an invalid page fault in
module ACESHIGH.EXE at 019f:00439beb.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=019f EIP=00439beb EFLGS=00010202
EBX=01e9e776 SS=01a7 ESP=01e9d594 EBP=00000001
ECX=ffffff1b DS=01a7 ESI=00a0aa20 FS=18c7
EDX=00000000 ES=01a7 EDI=01e9e72c GS=58ef
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 57 50 ff 51 10 33 c0 b9 35 00 00 00 8d 7c
Stack dump:
0000779a 01e9e744 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Win 98 4.10
AMD Athlon ~1033MHz 256MB DDR RAM
RADEON 64MB DDR (Driver version 4.13.01.7075)
DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
1152x864 (16 bit)
-Soda
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guess they too busy to answer everyones questions at the moment,,,,,,,,,I know my machine very old, was hoping I could still play but maybe its not meant to be! I've ony been in AH 6 weeks but other sims will accept my oldly machine.........guess i'll be forced to move on.
p3-850 512 ram 32meg vid card
<> best game i've found however!
Awhirl
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try copying your settings folder from ah1 and pasting it in ah2 then try starting ah2.
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Geez....see this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98962).
If you make a decsion based on this BETA, then it is just plain silly. I am sorry, but this is a first release BETA and no where did we say this is the final code.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Geez....see this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98962).
If you make a decsion based on this BETA, then it is just plain silly. I am sorry, but this is a first release BETA and no where did we say this is the final code.
And what about the "ACESHIGH caused an invalid page fault"
inputs above?? Is anyone going to address those posts?
It would appear, after reading most of the posts in this forum,
that there will be minimal "backwards compatibility" as far
as AH II is concerned. So a whole bunch of folks are going
to be forced to shell out $$$ to "upgrade" their perfectly
good systems or forget about playing AH II.
There is going to have to be ALOT more to AH II than just
more "eye candy" to make me want to put out more $$$
to stay in the game. I personally could care less about
the eye candy, and if that is what's driving the need for
higher performance video cards, then IMO it's not worth it.
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It's the first release of the beta program. There are going to be bugs and problems everywhere. It would seem way too early to be talking about the lack of backward compatibility. Give them a chance to fix it. If they don't respond to the posts then they are probably working on it. Give them the benefit of the doubt.
In a number of the patches we've had in AH there have been times that frame rates have dropped and people began grumbling about having to upgrade their computers. HTC was able to fix those problems and frame rates came back up. Of course more computer is going to be needed for AH2, but you can't judge it yet until they get things worked out.
If they aren't posting to ask for more information then they may have a good idea on what the problem is and they are fixing it. Of course I may just be overly optimistic today ;)
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It looks to me that you guys are suffering from a combo of lack of memory /incorrect driver's that go to the path of initalizing your video cards ....
as of right now 32mb video cards dont seam to have enough ummmph .. to play ah2
I tried on a 1 ghz amd with 64mb onboard ati video ... it also failed ...same sort of fault string
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Really In todays gaming inviroment you need atleast a 128meg card.
Now dont blame HTC if you systems are to old and your to cheap to upgrade.
Welcome to the computer world folks.
What you buy(build) today will be out dated tommorow:eek:
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Did any of you guys tried with dx9 instead ?
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Yes, I'm running Dx9.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Really In todays gaming inviroment you need atleast a 128meg card.
Now dont blame HTC if you systems are to old and your to cheap to upgrade.
Welcome to the computer world folks.
What you buy(build) today will be out dated tommorow:eek:
"don't" "your" "you're"
"Welcome to the computer world"?...well bozo, I would bet that
I was dabbling in the "computer world" long before you were
even born.
I've built up more systems than your average techno-dweeb.
I currently have 4 sitting here on my local network...the one
that I currently use plus the three previous "upgrades".
I'm not "cheap"...I spend more on symphony and opera
subscriptions every year than a new "super gamer system"
would cost.
However, I played this "upgrade your system for the next
release of ___" game for a good number of years and I really
don't care to keep chasing the "eye-candy" hoop, which is what
appears to be the bait here. Your reply here was neither helpful
or informed. Such is the gene pool these days...
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Originally posted by save
Did any of you guys tried with dx9 instead ?
I stopped updating DX.xx when moving from DX8.0 to 8.1
PORKED my TV tuner in my ATI AIW Pro. It was a real PITA
getting all the trash that 8.1 put on my system OUT so that
I could revert to 8.0, which works just fine.
Should I decide to sticj around and upgrade my video card
when AH II becomes a stable product, then I
will try DX.latest-and-greatest and see what happens,
but not until then. Thanks for the suggestion however.
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Gypsy, your problem is that you don't have dx8.1 or above. AH2 is built on 8.1.
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Originally posted by Gypsy Baron
"don't" "your" "you're"
"Welcome to the computer world"?...well bozo, I would bet that
I was dabbling in the "computer world" long before you were
even born.
I've built up more systems than your average techno-dweeb.
I currently have 4 sitting here on my local network...the one
that I currently use plus the three previous "upgrades".
I'm not "cheap"...I spend more on symphony and opera
subscriptions every year than a new "super gamer system"
would cost.
However, I played this "upgrade your system for the next
release of ___" game for a good number of years and I really
don't care to keep chasing the "eye-candy" hoop, which is what
appears to be the bait here. Your reply here was neither helpful
or informed. Such is the gene pool these days...
Funny with all those systems sitting around you would think you would have one that would work :rofl
maybe you should let me build you one like mine:D
(http://home.comcast.net/~c.hambleton/wsb/media/134502/site1043.jpg)
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come on guys, lets not turn this into a pissing contest...
If you wanna fite, take it outside.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Gypsy Baron
Should I decide to sticj around and upgrade my video card
when AH II becomes a stable product, then I
will try DX.latest-and-greatest and see what happens,
but not until then. Thanks for the suggestion however.
Don't you're sticj mean stick:aok
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Originally posted by Modas
come on guys, lets not turn this into a pissing contest...
If you wanna fite, take it outside.
:rolleyes:
Hey I did not start with the name calling:rolleyes:
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Gypsy Baron I hate to break it to you but if you'd be even marginally experienced in hardware you'd realise that oil lanterns can't be switched on from a wall switch. You need Edison's fancy new electric lighting for that. If you want to go over the top you can even get fluorescence these days.
I guess oil lanterns were perfectly good hardware 100 or so years ago. So were your computers a couple years back.
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Updated to Dx8.1 and I no longer get GPFs.
I can't believe how this thread deteriotated... one moment people are reporting GPF's, the next it's threats and name-calling.
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Yes i should have walked away from this one.
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Upgraded my DirectX to 9.0b and put on the latest ATI Catalyst drivers (I have a Radeon 7200 64MB DDR) and it runs fine now. Frame rates are pretty low, in the 20's, but that's with the detail set high. Unforuntately it is only running at 800x600 in 16bit. If I crank it up higher than that it sometimes locks up in the tower.
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tried copying settings same problem as above,,,,,,,,
Awhirl
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Gypsy I had the same problem with another ATI TV tuner (All in Wonder VE), but they have new drivers out that fix the problem and they've been out for months.
I haven't stopped upgrading but I have implemented a "no more than $100/component" rule (one exception being monitors). Sometimes I fudge it a little anyway.
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I've had the problem mentioned at the top of this thread.
Downloaded the M$oft DirectX 8.1 driver and that let me start the game.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Gypsy I had the same problem with another ATI TV tuner (All in Wonder VE), but they have new drivers out that fix the problem and they've been out for months.
I haven't stopped upgrading but I have implemented a "no more than $100/component" rule (one exception being monitors). Sometimes I fudge it a little anyway.
Thanks for the input, MetaTron. I'll keep this in mind when
I decide what I'm going to do vis-a-vis AH II and new
video card and/or system.
I basically subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't screw with it"
school. Once I get a system stable and that meets my current
requirements, I stop chasing the "upgrade hoop".
I reached that point with AH and this current system a year
and a half or so ago. I think that's when I went through the
DX8.1b install/remove/continue to remove/purge registry
cycle to get back to 8.0 and a working TV tuner. Stopped
reading the ATI related newsgroups then as well :)
Lately I've been meandering the newsgroups and vendor
sites looking at ATI AIW Radeon boards. IF I decide to
upgrade I MAY go to a 9800 AIW Pro or possibly scale back
to a 9600 AIW Pro. I just shudder at the thought of going
through the uninstall/install/get BSOD/try it all again...and
again...and again cycle that seems to be the norm with
MS OS and ATI products...
Again, thanks for your input.
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ATI 9600xt is great bang for the buck:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
ATI 9600xt is great bang for the buck:aok
The 9600xt doesn't have a TV Tuner, which is essential
for my purposes. I need an AIW Pro of one variety or
another. I'm gonna wait a month or two before I do
anything.
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Man Gypsy I am the same as you, ya hit the nail on the head there. I have 7 up at the moment on my LAN, and really don't need to here that crap from a person who just bought the latest thing from best buy or some place.. lol
I don't mind helping folks beta test software, doing something constructive, and I hope my first post here helps them.
ACE108
Originally posted by Gypsy Baron
"don't" "your" "you're"
"Welcome to the computer world"?...well bozo, I would bet that
I was dabbling in the "computer world" long before you were
even born.
I've built up more systems than your average techno-dweeb.
I currently have 4 sitting here on my local network...the one
that I currently use plus the three previous "upgrades".
I'm not "cheap"...I spend more on symphony and opera
subscriptions every year than a new "super gamer system"
would cost.
However, I played this "upgrade your system for the next
release of ___" game for a good number of years and I really
don't care to keep chasing the "eye-candy" hoop, which is what
appears to be the bait here. Your reply here was neither helpful
or informed. Such is the gene pool these days...
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wow mrblack, is that some kind of air conditioner unit at the bottom of yours. looks cool, but i know very little about this kinda stuff.
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Soda i got a 9700pro and am only getting bout a 10fps
whats your cpu and all that?
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Originally posted by snocone
wow mrblack, is that some kind of air conditioner unit at the bottom of yours. looks cool, but i know very little about this kinda stuff.
It's a phase change cooling system.
You can get em here
http://www.chip-con.com
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empire2,
I've got a AMD 1.4GHz but because of a memory problem I've been running it at ~1GHz to keep it stable. I think I have a bad memory chip but can't be bothered to replace it (I suspect I'm in the market for a major upgrade by the end of the year anyway). I upgraded all my drivers (directX 9.0b and used the newest radeon drivers I could find) and it works alright now.
I can actually run it in almost every combo of settings including 32 bit now, with the latest AH2 beta. It will be interesting to see what happens when an online version runs and I get more aircraft near me... I will probably run outta overhead and slow down badly.
-Soda
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Gypsy, I'd go for the 9600 AIW Pro over the 9800. The 9800 is somewhat more powerful as a gaming card, but the 9600 is more feature laden.
Anandtech ran a good review of it:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1905
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
Gypsy, I'd go for the 9600 AIW Pro over the 9800. The 9800 is somewhat more powerful as a gaming card, but the 9600 is more feature laden.
Anandtech ran a good review of it:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1905
Thanks Ecliptik ( BTW, are you into astronomy? ) I decided
to get the ATI 9600 AIW Pro since it has an FM tuner as
well as the TV tuner...going to put it in an ASUS A78NX Deluxe
MB with a AMD 2500+ and 512MB Corsair TWINX DDR400
memory.
My only qualms are about ordering it with WinXP Pro...
As an old assembly language ( and "machine" lang. )
programmer/HW engineer I really LIKE having direct
control of hardware resources. Something XP does NOT
allow...Gone are the days of "boot to DOS, run (some utility)
and control your (name a card or resource here)...sigh.
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Soda that 1.4 Thunderbird is a very good chip if you can keep it cool enough, I installed a all coper heatsink with oversized fan on my sons, brought it down from 170 deg to 120 deg. Now it runs smoothly at 1.5 gigs
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Gypsy Baron do yourself a favour and install W2k instead. I know it won't be any better on the control part, but at least you'll save a few hairs readjusting and relearning XP's butt-ugly GUI. In addition, I've witnessed chunkloads of weird problems with people using XP starting from program installation problems (admin account and still locked access to different functions) to LAN probs to which MS database has no resolution. Same lan, same box, W2k works without a quirk.
Product activation must be the only reason why billy-boy pushes the inferior XP everywhere.
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Thanks Ecliptik ( BTW, are you into astronomy? )
Actually yes, but not very seriously, although I have taken my telescope out on more than a couple of nights. I prefer reading about the subject more than stargazing.
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Soda that 1.4 Thunderbird is a very good chip if you can keep it cool enough, I installed a all coper heatsink with oversized fan on my sons, brought it down from 170 deg to 120 deg. Now it runs smoothly at 1.5 gigs
As I've been running mine at only 1GHz it stays nice and cool but I also bought a serious heat-sink/fan combo to ensure it wouldn't bake (that chip, as you suggest, has always been known to run hot). I do need to get a new memory chip for it though, running slow cripples performance pretty badly though I haven't been running anything that required the extra MHz yet. AH2 appears to be the product that will require it.
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oh why, oh why did i even look back in here....
come on lets get real here ... most guys arnt gonna afford a 3000 $$$ mega buck monster pc ... let alone have the knowledge to oc it to what we would call stable.. they are mostly looking for the cheapest upgrade they can get away with ...
we need to wait til ah2 gets closer to final code befor screaming about this or that pc/vc requirements ..
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
Actually yes, but not very seriously, although I have taken my telescope out on more than a couple of nights. I prefer reading about the subject more than stargazing.
I've just renewed my interest in the past couple of
years after looking at the HST returns.
Also I recently discovered that my brother, whom I haven't
kept in close touch with, is the pres.of the So. California
Amatuer Astronomers and is the principle operator on
the Mt. Wilson 60" and 100" telescopes :)
I've just acquired a 100mm refractor and an 8" reflector
plus a 6" dobs my brother built for me that breaks down
to a size suitable for carry-on aboard aircraft.
The 8" hasn't seen first light yet as I've been waiting on
backordered tube rings but I've used the 100mm alot
during September, viewing Mars from my light polluted
front yard.
I took the 6" dobs up to the dark skies of Cape Breton,
Nova Scotia for 5 weeks in July/Aug and put it to use
about 3 nights a week up there.
Speaking of reading, while I was in Cape Breton I
managed to get through 2 books by Timothy Ferris.
"The Red Limit" and "Seeing in the Dark"...both
good reads if you haven't read them already.
Clear skies to you.