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Title: Don't look like contrail to me.? UFO? Military?
Post by: JBA on October 16, 2003, 01:16:21 PM: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_031013.html
Title: Don't look like contrail to me.? UFO? Military?
Post by: Krotki on October 16, 2003, 01:21:42 PM: hope it wasn't Chinese Astronaut.
Title: Don't look like contrail to me.? UFO? Military?
Post by: icemaw on October 16, 2003, 01:26:43 PM: Contrail who they trying to kid. Thats fire and smoke. If it was light on a contrail it would be uniform. Not a flaiming streak ending in a fireball.
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Post by: gofaster on October 16, 2003, 01:31:35 PM: The "sun reflecting off of the ice crystals of a high-altitude contrail" theory seems to be the most plausible If you look closely, you can see that the firey part of the cloud follows the exact same outline as the white part of the cloud.

(http://www.space.com/images/031013_meteor_wales_02.jpg)

Either that or we better send Bruce Willis' "Armagheddon" team up there, pronto! Quick, where's Steve Buscemi when we need him!

(http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/231761.jpg)
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Post by: medicboy on October 16, 2003, 01:32:23 PM: :eek: That ain't no contrail, you can see in the second pic it apears to be tumbeling, the smoke trail ossicilates.
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Post by: ra on October 16, 2003, 01:37:15 PM: It's a black helicopter bursting into flames because it's antigravity unit malfunctioned. Don't tell anyone.
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Post by: medicboy on October 16, 2003, 01:41:05 PM: I was thinking it was the Auora buring up as it reentered after an assination attempt on AIral Sharon!
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Post by: SLO on October 16, 2003, 01:58:43 PM: meteor.....
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Post by: Dux on October 16, 2003, 02:20:07 PM: Yeah, it's definitely proof of something... I mean, you couldn't fake that in PhotoShop.

:rolleyes:
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Post by: LePaul on October 16, 2003, 02:35:48 PM: Looks like the astronauts on the ISS jettisoned some Taco Bell goodies...boy once that hits the atmosphere...whoa baby!
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Post by: Animal on October 16, 2003, 02:36:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dux
Yeah, it's definitely proof of something... I mean, you couldn't fake that in PhotoShop.

:rolleyes:

Its proof that something had a rough entry.
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Post by: Dux on October 16, 2003, 03:19:25 PM: If you believe it really happened, that is.

My point is: you never really know these days.
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Post by: midnight Target on October 16, 2003, 03:41:03 PM: Rocket launches in the early evening from Vandenberg look incredible. Long colorful streaks and snakelike clouds of bright color.

Or an acid flashback... ??
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Post by: Heretik on October 16, 2003, 04:06:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by medicboy
I was thinking it was the Auora buring up as it reentered after an assination attempt on AIral Sharon!

That's actually the first thing that came to my mind, minus the Ariel Sharon bit. That picture matches up with all the descriptions I've heard of the "Great Pumpkin" a.k.a. Aurora.
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Post by: gatso on October 16, 2003, 04:26:27 PM: Yeah you never know these days... but in this case, someone else took this at the same time 10 miles away.
(http://www.space.com/images/031013_fireball_heywood_02,0.jpg)
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Post by: Sandman on October 16, 2003, 04:30:22 PM: Looks like a contrail... not going down in the frame, but going up with the sun illuminating the tail end.
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Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2003, 06:19:13 PM: But then the 'tail end' looks a bit more intact and 'fresh'.

If you compare both pics, the 2nd pic (the one sandy posted) looks more disipated and 'older' near the top than it does the bottom.

Do the colors of the "fire" match the sunlight on the clouds? They seem to differ very slightly. Although it's probably just the angle.
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Post by: udet on October 16, 2003, 06:21:20 PM: they was saying on space.com they thought it was the Concorde with sunlight reflecting off it. I don't think so :p

most likely an alien inseminating ship entered our atmosphere and pretty soon a deadly virus will make alien babies inside women at PMS.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on October 16, 2003, 06:59:59 PM: I knew Star Wars was real... I just knew it...
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Post by: Otto on October 16, 2003, 07:15:17 PM: It looks like some type of 'fuel burn' but I don't understand the 'how' or 'why'.

I think the F-111 (no longer in service) could do something like this by jetisoning fuel and turning on the AB. It was a 'party trick' they did at Air Shows.

Very strange....:confused:
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Post by: Vulcan on October 16, 2003, 07:49:19 PM: Its not a contrail.

Look at the relative lighting of the clouds above and below, and the trail. It doesn't add up to be something lit by the sun. If it is lit by the sun then the rest of the trail should show it.

Wonder what the relative scale is, that looks like a fairly high cloud layer, that would make it a big arse smoke trail and a big object creating it.
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Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2003, 08:06:04 PM: here's my take supporting the illuminated contrail:

A contrail from a nearby decending Concord (space.com never said the bright stuff WAS a concord). Since the angle at which both photos were snapped is kind of skewed, the trail appears to be decending (left to right) and not parallel to the surface.

Perhaps the concord decends, leaves a contrail in the cooler air at higher altitudes, and hits a warmer pocket or layer of air at a certain point... warm enough to prevent further formation. Perhaps the cooler/warmer air is dramatic and rising warm air at this alt "squishes" or distorts the contrail.

The distorted end just happens to be in direct path of sunlight....

It's possible =] Just not enough evidence to test it
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on October 16, 2003, 08:16:25 PM: In the first picture, look at the illumation of it. The whitest area is facing the sun with it becoming less illuminated in areas that are more than likely not near the sun and finally ending in cloud like colors towards the edge.

Or Uranus ate too many beans last night. Get it, Uranus? God of sky, get it? Get it?
-SW
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Post by: majic on October 16, 2003, 08:19:26 PM: That's what it looks like to me octavius.
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Post by: Dinger on October 16, 2003, 09:47:23 PM: It's a contrail. Digital Cameras don't have the dynamic range of film cameras; the result is that the generic settings necessary to get the surroundings are going to overexpose the reflected light in the contrail. Add in some chromatic distortion at the edges fo the settings, a fast-moving jet, and there you go.

I live under J-80 and see a lot of beautiful contrails. Can only think of a couple clear days when there weren't any of any sort. And those were bad days.
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Post by: Sandman on October 16, 2003, 11:15:00 PM: The light can do strange things... this is a Minuteman missile shot out of Vandenberg that happened about a year ago.

(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0209/minuteman3_young.jpg)

The "freshest" part of the contrail is the at the top of the screen.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on October 16, 2003, 11:27:28 PM: It is a contrail, illumninated with the color orange by a setting sun, and billowed by wind.

According to Occam's razor, this is what it is.
Title: Don't look like contrail to me.? UFO? Military?
Post by: Octavius on October 17, 2003, 12:55:45 AM: the AH BBS solves yet another of life's mysteries... wtg! :D
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Post by: bigsky on October 17, 2003, 01:47:44 AM: cruise missle test gone bad. thats what it looks like to me.
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Post by: Modas on October 17, 2003, 08:03:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I knew Star Wars was real... I just knew it...

LOL!!!

Good one!! :D Signature material for sure!!
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Post by: Preon1 on October 17, 2003, 08:08:37 AM: gorgeous shot, Sandman. Amazing how beauty can be found in something like a Minuteman.

It seems like the concord theory could be backed up. I mean, we have plenty of documentation on transsonic vehicles. Does this mean that in the 4 decades of sonic flight, there hasn't been one shot of a contrail like this one?

The great part about this one, is that is sounds JUST like the "light from venus reflected off of methane emissions from swamp water" routine. It's just WAY too conspiracy theory.