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Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Pesticide on October 16, 2003, 01:32:53 PM
I find threads like This (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98809) to be a huge turnoff to AH.  Say what you want about WWIIOL, and it's comunity, but I have rarely seen such animosity or disdain out of a large portion of that community toward any other sim or community.

I actually ended up on these forums because someone in the WWIIOL Hangar mentioned that the AH2 beta was out.  Something that hapens quite frequently whenever another sim gets a new version or a patch.  But, having seen the hate that spews from these boards, I have reconsidered.

threads like this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96397) in which you freak out just because AH was mentioned, and then proceed to go on a WWIIOL bashing spree, simply because someone posted a link to an interview???

or this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95978) thread where you people go out of your way to bash the WWIIOL FM.  I don't even have to click the link to know what video that is, and someone at CRS has even said it should be somewhere between the two.

then there is this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93503) thread, starts out as simply bashing the game, for the sake of bashing the game.

I have never seen such targeted loathing in an online community, and I refuse to be a part of it. Congrats folks, you have just turned away a potential customer.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: ra on October 16, 2003, 01:35:33 PM
blaahhahahah.
Title: Re: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 16, 2003, 01:38:04 PM
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Originally posted by Pesticide
I have never seen such targeted loathing in an online community.....


Give me a break.  The AH BBS forums are tame compared to other forums I have seen.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Skuzzy on October 16, 2003, 01:38:46 PM
Before anyone thinks about responding to this thread, I will say it once;  Keep it civil.  Thank you.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Pesticide on October 16, 2003, 01:39:38 PM
[edit] nice Ra [edit]
I can see that the comuinity really cares about encouraging people to play your game.  This coming from someone who's been here since '99??

*shakes head*

Truely a class act, it's a wonder that you get any new people at all in here.
Title: Re: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: gofaster on October 16, 2003, 01:39:39 PM
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Originally posted by Pesticide
Congrats folks, you have just turned away a potential customer.


Its a shame you don't let the game stand on its own merits.  Would you stop cheering for a team because you don't like its fans?
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2003, 01:40:51 PM
what mickey and gofaster said
Title: Re: Re: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Pesticide on October 16, 2003, 01:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Its a shame you don't let the game stand on its own merits.  Would you stop cheering for a team because you don't like its fans?



Actually, I find the community to be a big part of the game, I am generally very active in the communities of the games I play online, and when I see stuff like what I saw today, it's a big turnoff.  Especially when I've grown use to people in the community actually recomending, and putting news out on updates to other games (including this one).
Title: Re: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Sikboy on October 16, 2003, 01:42:53 PM
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Originally posted by Pesticide
Congrats folks, you have just turned away a potential customer.


lol, yeah you were just about to reach for your wallet when you found those posts... that was close

-Sik
Title: Re: Re: Re: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2003, 01:45:15 PM
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Originally posted by Pesticide
Actually, I find the community to be a big part of the game, I am generally very active in the communities of the games I play online, and when I see stuff like what I saw today, it's a big turnoff.  Especially when I've grown use to people in the community actually recomending, and putting news out on updates to other games (including this one).


So announce it and start a thread with huge lockage potential why dont ya?  Should we clap?

Hey, I think I'll do the same:

BARBARA STREISAND IS APPALLING... SO IS CELINE DION.  THEY JUST LOST POTENTIAL CD SALES AND A FAN!  RICHARD SIMMONS IS A GOD.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Animal on October 16, 2003, 01:46:11 PM
Just dont take anything that is said in this forum seriously, and it is all actually hilarious. Nothing funnier than a bunch of grown men acting even more inmature than the Counterstrike forums.

I like to think of the AH O'Club as the sewer of the internet.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Gadfly on October 16, 2003, 01:46:20 PM
Yeah, Pesticide, it is pretty stupid to not try the game because of Morons.  The community is quite different than the people on this board, so you should not use that as the basis of your decision.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 16, 2003, 01:49:19 PM
Pesticide, have you read this thread on the WW2OL forum?  I think it explains a lot.

http://discussions.playnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=6077
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: muckmaw on October 16, 2003, 01:49:44 PM
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Originally posted by Animal
Nothing funnier than a bunch of grown men acting even more inmature than the Counterstrike forums.



And this coming from a guy who has a Mutant Ninja turtle as an avatar...

See, Pesticide, we're a happy bunch of A-holes!
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: gofaster on October 16, 2003, 01:53:25 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
And this coming from a guy who has a Mutant Ninja turtle as an avatar...


Oh yeah, I see it now.  All this time I thought it was a monkey! :eek:
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 16, 2003, 01:54:26 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
And this coming from a guy who has a Mutant Ninja turtle as an avatar...


Credit to Muckmaw for not knowing the name of that particular MNT. :D
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: ra on October 16, 2003, 01:54:49 PM
How boring WWIIOL must be for its players to come here to fish.:rolleyes:
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Saintaw on October 16, 2003, 01:59:21 PM
I bet it's that [edited] person from WootWoootIIOL that keeps commin back with different handles to [edited]enlighten us... only this time, he got the correct one.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: DiabloTX on October 16, 2003, 02:00:10 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Oh yeah, I see it now.  All this time I thought it was a monkey! :eek:


Hehehe...I thought it was a gorilla.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 16, 2003, 02:00:36 PM
http://discussions.playnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=6077

"I can prove this with a demostration too. I can go under another name, kindly mention the latest features of WW2OL, and then watch the flames, resentment, and falsefoods roll in." - Zeroace
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Tarmac on October 16, 2003, 02:00:39 PM
The community here is actually very accepting, as long as your first post is not bashing said community.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: DmdNexus on October 16, 2003, 02:01:28 PM
I thought WWIIOL went out of business last year.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: straffo on October 16, 2003, 02:02:10 PM
is that you Hardcase ?
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mighty1 on October 16, 2003, 02:03:48 PM
I think it's laughable that ANYONE from WWIIO has the nerve to go ANYWHERE  and talk about the character of the community.

Any hate that is directed at WWIIO is well earned AND I like most others here that were screwed over by CRS couldn't care less if you or anyone else are offended by our comments.


As was the norm on the WWIIO BBS when I was there I'd like to say a hearty "Don't let the door hit you on the way out!".
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Westy on October 16, 2003, 02:05:14 PM
ra, IMO this is that character Zeroace from WWIIO who said he'd register under another handle and do exactly this. The telltales are the hysterical over use of exageration and the B movie quality acting to feign being a poor victim ....  blah blah, yaddy yadda.  
 That or all their fan boi's went to the same training class as Hardcase and Zeroace did.

 But I'll can echo what  Mickey1992 was refering to.  The discussion started here by Vulcan wouldn't even have occured if not for the CRS employee fishing for volunteers from other sims, such as AH,  for a "promotional effort."    I challenge anyone to find anything as weak as that being done by any HTC employee, let alone an AH player.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: DiabloTX on October 16, 2003, 02:05:15 PM
Remember, Zeroace just came on to this BBS as a comercial for WW2OL which we confronted him as being inappropriate.  Then HE started to get defensive.  He more or less exposed what a lot of people saw as the mentality of the WW2OL gamer...and thus opened himself up to a lot of flames.  Did he deserve it?  Well, does WW2OL suck?
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Pesticide on October 16, 2003, 02:06:00 PM
Mickey1992,
I fail to see where rafter has done or said anything in that thread that should set off the AH community.  All he has even HINTED at is a promotion for members of other Flight Sim communities.  Hardly any mention of AH was brought up untill the obvious hatred for WWIIOL was mentioned.  

Yes, there were some comments made by Warpd, but what flight sim doesn't have it's "issues".  WWIIOL has its barn-door 109 rudder, IL2 has it's uberI-16's, and I'm sure AH has it's issues.  

But I fail to see how a thread hinting at having a promotion for other sim pilots prompted the reaction it did.  It's not like rafter said "go steal players from other communities".  Nothing of the sort has ever been said by anyone AFIK.  Most players there are active in other sims, I don't see where the hatred comes from.


[edit]FYI, I am not ZeroAce or Hardcase.  You can find my posts on the WWIIOL forums uder the name Pesty.  I have no knowlege of what ZeroAce or Hardcase has done in the past, so if someone would kindly fill me in....
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Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: muckmaw on October 16, 2003, 02:06:47 PM
I don't get it...

Why is WWIIOL having a recruiting drive?

Don't great games usually sell themselves with very little promotion?

Why are paying players of WWIIOL so concerned about recruting new players to their game?

Are they having trouble finding people to fight? I thought WWIIOL had 10,000 subscribers..

The game looks pretty interesting, but I would not pay to play it because of the impression zeroace and hardcase made on this bbs awhile back. I'm sorry, but you don't walk into a competitors business with a sign saying come buy my product.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Animal on October 16, 2003, 02:08:22 PM
The comunity here is very accepting as long as you are not:

Republican or a Democrat, believe in religion (or not), say any game is better than Aces High, like the French, and believe Palestinians are humans.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Eagler on October 16, 2003, 02:12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Animal
The comunity here is very accepting as long as you are not:

Republican or a Democrat, believe in religion (or not), say any game is better than Aces High, like the French, and believe Palestinians are humans.


hehe

I am truely appalled too!!! :)
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 16, 2003, 02:16:22 PM
Sad, Pesticide.  By obviously trolling our boards in an attempt to attack the community (funny how you came for AH2 but only managed to find every thread related to WWIIOL), you have turned me off of WWIIOL and its obviously desperate community.

I hope you scored some points with the home team, because this thread serves no purpose other than to create even more ill will between the two communities.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 16, 2003, 02:18:53 PM
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Originally posted by Pesticide
Mickey1992,
I fail to see where rafter has done or said anything in that thread that should set off the AH community.


I never said he did.  In fact, Killer just made a post defending AH in that thread.

If you read a lot of the posts in that thread, you will understand why many people feel the way they do about WW2OL.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Pesticide on October 16, 2003, 02:19:17 PM
LMAO Animal...I have claimed none of thoes things.  

Muckmaw,
as for the recruitment drive, the game is really best when as many people as possible are online and loged in, due to the nature of the game.  In that regard it's kinda like Evercrack or SWG, in that if there's only 200 people online, it can get pretty booring, as you have lots of trouble finding anything to shoot at other than AI.    As for the numbers, I don't know how many players [subscribed or active] but the vast majority of the players are ground forces (remember, it's not just a flight sim).    I make no assumptions to CRS's motives, if they want to do it to boost numbers, or if they are doing it for financial reasons is really of little concern to me as long as they keep trying to improve the game.

BTW, how did we get on the recruitment issue anyways??

oh, and what's up with that Vulkan guy, is he one of yours??

[edit] DMF, if you see this as trolling, fine, but if I was trolling I wouldn't take the time to reply to as many posts as possible.  I'm just trying to understand all the hostility.
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2003, 02:23:17 PM
Vulcan is a tranny... err trans-simulation.  He's a member of both communities (paying too)
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Westy on October 16, 2003, 02:27:27 PM
"oh, and what's up with that Vulkan guy, is he one of yours??"

 It's not simply "yours" or "ours." IT's not that black and white. People don't have to have an acount "here" and have to forego an account "there."   Some have accounts in both. But yes Vulcan is known to other AH players.  IMO he's a good player to "fly" with and a decent enough guy from my experience.  He has this funny sounding high pitched squeel you can hear on vox when he gets in trouble with bogies ;)


 Pesty huh?    Name's awfully familiar sounding ....


 Westy
Title: I am truely appalled by the community in here.
Post by: Skuzzy on October 16, 2003, 02:28:06 PM
You come in here and, basically, tell the community here they are horrible and wonder why there is such animousity?

I have no access to the WW2OL forums, but if the situation was reversed, I expect the results would be the same.