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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: twitchy on October 18, 2003, 01:43:37 AM
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Please!!! Would eb a great alternative perk bomber, or maybe even an unheard of perk Jabo!
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4 20mm in front, four 50 cal turret in rear, plus major ords!
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Dunno about perkage...
But def. bring it to AH!
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Originally posted by twitchy
Please!!! Would eb a great alternative perk bomber, or maybe even an unheard of perk Jabo!
no
1. minor use in battle
2. no onboard radar in AH1 and AH2
3. Bigger and move worse then b25
why do you need one more mossie, a20 and 110?
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twitchy i undestand u like it but it's difficult use a nigthfigther
in MA during the day like a jabo.....mmmmm:rolleyes:
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why couldnt you use it during the day? Eliminate the radar part and it could be used like any other JABO in the MA , its black so itd prob be easy to see but doesnt make much difference could still be used, id like to see it add sometime.
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p-61 is not made to drive and drop......
maddog of course it is possible like it is possible fly in MA with a D3A Val, for exemple, but it was introduced to work in scenario, use it in MA sometime is funny becouse it is crazy, u are a dead-Bird. infact tell me how many D3A Val do u see in MA?
i made this example to say that all is possible
:rolleyes: but if it will be usefull in some ARENA
..r me a p-61 in AH have no sense:
it is not a bomber
and it is not a jabo
it 's only damned speedy and very well armed,
designed to be able to operate at higher altitude but without the nite and a dar is not usefull
:cool:
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A20, Mossie and 110 are great planes, they just don't fly 500mph so they don't get that much use.
"I don't want it because it isn't uber" is TOTAL bs
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Frankly, I don't want to see a single piece of new US iron in AH until the dismal state of affairs for the IJ planes is fixed. Maybe even add to the Italian's Regio Aeronautica and give them a bomber. Last for chrissake where is the Finnish Brewster? To put it in other words I think the order for adding planes should be...
1) Imperial Japanese (ALL)
2) Italian (ALL)
3) Finnish Brewster
4) Luftwaffe hvy bombers
5) US Wonder Weapons
Since the Finn's only need 1 plane perhaps even make them 2 on the list.
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P-61A and B (WWII versions) topped out a 360mph. It would be neat, but it isn't going to be unseating the P-38L as the best jabo.
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Originally posted by scJazz
Frankly, I don't want to see a single piece of new US iron in AH until the dismal state of affairs for the IJ planes is fixed. Maybe even add to the Italian's Regio Aeronautica and give them a bomber. Last for chrissake where is the Finnish Brewster? To put it in other words I think the order for adding planes should be...
1) Imperial Japanese (ALL)
2) Italian (ALL)
3) Finnish Brewster
4) Luftwaffe hvy bombers
5) US Wonder Weapons
Since the Finn's only need 1 plane perhaps even make them 2 on the list.
Agree 120% :aok :aok
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Hardly a wonder weapon.. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Rutilant
A20, Mossie and 110 are great planes, they just don't fly 500mph so they don't get that much use.
"I don't want it because it isn't uber" is TOTAL bs
You are a cluedart. BTW the P-61 was actually very manuverable for it's size.
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Frankly, I don't want to see a single piece of new US iron in AH until the dismal state of affairs for the IJ planes is fixed. Maybe even add to the Italian's Regio Aeronautica and give them a bomber. Last for chrissake where is the Finnish Brewster? To put it in other words I think the order for adding planes should be...
agree completely...no more american or british planes till the japanese german italian and russian sets are complete
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i also agree that i dont wana see any more american iron, id much rather see the Japanese and German Plane set filled in not to mention Italy they are the worst off of em all cept from countrys that dont have planes in AH yet, but if you think about it in AH2 the ability for us to reskin planes will probably open up stuff for some other countrys. I was just sayin if HT did decide to add the P-61 it could be used, and the fact that some planes dont get used much is just life, when AH is all said and done like 15 years from now if its still goin and we have all the many planes of ww2 im sure there will be tons that dont get used, doesnt mean HT wont add em, look at the 163 i remember way back along time ago when i posted a thread about adding the 163, i think every person that could cept 2 said it should never be added and look what happend it all just comes down to what HT wants really.
Just my 2 cents!:aok
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You only need the niki and the zeke.. all japanese planes look alike anyway :p
Italian planes... feh, they're all ugly.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I wouldn't call Fiat G.55 and Reggiane Re.2005 ugly. :)
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well, both of em look just like a MC.205 to me :p
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Originally posted by AHGOD
You are a cluedart. BTW the P-61 was actually very manuverable for it's size.
yes, B29 is still very manuvrable for his size too;)
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I just like it cause it was the first model i ever built :-)
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Originally posted by ramzey
no
1. minor use in battle
2. no onboard radar in AH1 and AH2
3. Bigger and move worse then b25
why do you need one more mossie, a20 and 110?
BECAUSE ITS A FREAKIN PLANE THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE WAR!
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Just imagine, why do we need a nightfighter? everyone has an enormous icon above his/her head which can be seen from 6000 yards, so why bother enabling it when no advantages can be achieved?
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Originally posted by Rutilant
well, both of em look just like a MC.205 to me :p
fiat g-55 reggiane 2005
both have the same spec
max speed KM 630
armed 2 X 12.5mm + 3 X 20mm
oth can carrie 2 bomb about 370 KG
fast like a 205
manovrable more than a 205!!!
aremed much more than a 205!!!
moore aereodinamics, 100% metal made, great energy figthers!
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I wouldn't call Fiat G.55 and Reggiane Re.2005 ugly. :)
U DA MAN!!!! :D :aok
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Originally posted by frank3
Just imagine, why do we need a nightfighter? everyone has an enormous icon above his/her head which can be seen from 6000 yards, so why bother enabling it when no advantages can be achieved?
Who says it can't be used during the day? Lanc was a night bomber.
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Who says it can't be used during the day? Lanc was a night bomber.
Rutilant u can use a motorbike at the north pole but it was made
not to work there....
....i mean if the usaf used it like NigthFigther
i think they know why
yup!:p
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So? Lanc is used to great effect during the day.
Not having the P61 just because it's a night fighter is rediculous!
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fug the p61, bring the Beaufighter to AH!
(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/beaufighter/bfigs_attack.jpg)
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Originally posted by Rutilant
So? Lanc is used to great effect during the day.
Not having the P61 just because it's a night fighter is rediculous!
not becouse it's a night figther
but becouse we can't use it like a nigth figther!!!!
it's different rutilant!!!!
lanc was a nigth bomber and u can use it like a nigth bomber
now tell me how u
can use the p-61 during the nite without a internal DAR and a red icons over your head screaming u are there........
and tell me how u can use it in dogfigth during the day against LW figthers ?????????
there were a lot of airplane that we can use
all time long and in all arena before think to
implement a nigth figther
ask for a p-61 is a Whim ;)
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the same way i fly any other plane.. and you're making no sense
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Originally posted by Rutilant
the same way i fly any other plane.. and you're making no sense
it avoids to answer to me!!!
and u do that becouse, at the moment there is no way to use succesfuly a nigth figter in AH
:D :D :D
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So the 110 can't be flown succesfully?
Maybe YOU won't be able to fly it succesfully, but the P61 would make a great attack plane during the day.
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Originally posted by Rutilant
So the 110 can't be flown succesfully?.....
Yes it is!!!! but u do not answer to me
u still speaking about all the plane in set
speak about the p-61 instead, plz
Originally posted by Rutilant
....Maybe YOU won't be able to fly it succesfully....
BLA BLA BLA BLA mmmmmm the move of the rat in trap :rolleyes:
u still awoid to answer
Originally posted by Rutilant
....but the P61 would make a great attack plane during the day.
u can said also that a winged donkey would be a nice airplane but that remains only just your own opinion
U STILL AVOID TO ANSWER .....
Give me data about that p-61 is used like a Jabo instead jug or p38
Give me data that p-61 was used during the day in dogfigth
give me data p-61 is used like a b-25
but without datas
u can ask to bring p-61 in AH
but so why not a X-WING figther instead
(http://www.stormsxwa.com/images/x-wing.gif)
:D:D:D
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You are indeed.. retarded. I anwsered your question, "how would we use it during the day".
What don't you understand? Christ, why do i bother anymore? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Rutilant
You are indeed.. retarded. I anwsered your question, "how would we use it during the day".
What don't you understand? Christ, why do i bother anymore? :rolleyes:
i'm retarded but u are a very gentleman!!!!!!! compliment:aok
talk with u is boring so i cut here!!!
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we need more RAF heavy bombers say the helifax?:D
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LOL X-wing! Man that would be a sweet Jabo!
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Who says it can't be used during the day? Lanc was a night bomber.
At one point all RAF heavy bombers were used at night ....even its B24's and B17's......... the Lanc was not designed as a night bomber (nor the Halifax) it was merely used at night and laterly during the day.
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Hmmm..
Italian Airplane Productions
Airplane production
Fighters & fighter-bombers
Fiat C.R.32- 1180
Fiat C.R.42- 1780
Fiat G.50- 785
Fiat G.55- 180
Macchi C.200- 1500
Macchi C.202- 1100
Macchi C. 205- 312
Reggiane 2000- 28
Reggiane 2001- 243
Reggiane 2002- 249
Reggiane 2005- 36
Italian History Webpage (http://www.isoliti4gatti.com/history.htm)
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italy build about 10.000c airplane in wwII
so
FIAT G-55 -----------------------> 1.8% ONTO TOTAL ITALIAN AIRPLANE PRODUCED
FIAT REGGIANE 2005----------> 0.36% ONTO TOTAL ITALIAN AIRPLANE PRODUCED
NK2-JSHIDEN KAY-------------->0.34% ONTO TOTAL JAPAN AIRPLANE PRODUCED
ME-163--------------------------->0.25% ONTO TOTAL GERMAN AIRPLANE PRODUCED
:aok
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Please do look here, java. http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99310
Good enough? :p
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Please do look here, java. http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99310
Good enough? :p
OK DATAS COME wtg!!
Rutilant try to undestand what i said...
i like p-61 too, becouse it's a original shape designed, but
......first aircraft specifically designed as a night fighter....
so
when i ask u "how u can fly it"
i do not mean u are not able to fly with a plane
i mean that
how u can fly it like a nigthfigther if
1)Nite is short in AH
2)during the nite u have the icons on, so it's difficut attak one in surprise way (like p-61 was able to do)
3) at now, radar onto airplane, it's not implemented onto any airplanes in AH
so , for me, p-61 in AH
is useless
but i thougth that
maybe i could be wrong
so i asked to u to post some datas about that,
about history of wwII,
was p-61 used like bomber?, Jabo?,or normal figther (without dar and nigth)?..
well, with your last post u convinced me at 100% of my idea .....sorry
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It's really pointless to argue about the night and P61 now, with AH2's final release on it's way, we can't be sure about what changes HTC will have made to the night (especially considering all the whines about it)
Untill then however.. I do want the P61B.
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that's is speaking !
if in AH2 the nite rules will change
i'm going to be with u at 120%!!!!!!
:D
i'm happy that we have arrived at a meeting point
:aok
and like pace sings i do not add at the end the gif of italian plane that u say they are ugly;) ;)
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Originally posted by bigjava
that's is speaking !
if in AH2 the nite rules will change
i'm going to be with u at 120%!!!!!!
:D
i'm happy that we have arrived at a meeting point
:aok
and like pace sings i do not add at the end the gif of italian plane that u say they are ugly;) ;)
Hehehehe.. :D