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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MaddDog on October 20, 2003, 12:25:49 AM
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I heard about this today, sounds pretty cool id like to be able to control my dreams, think of the possabilitys you could go anywhere do anything you want and in most dreams you can feel, touch, hear, and expierence anything just as in RL, could make for some intense dreamin you could be a ww2 fighter pilot or be with the hottest women.....wow. Kinda crazy stuff anyways just thought id post bout it, see if anyones got any idears on it.:aok
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Originally posted by MaddDog
or be with the hottest women.....wow.
:aok
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lol exactly:D
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Hah! Finally! Only until recently I've found others locally who can do this.
If you want more info go here: http://www.lucidity.com and check out the FAQ (http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html)
A VERY good book written by one of the pioneers of Lucid Dreaming, check out this: Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, by Stephen LaBerge (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/034537410X/qid=1066628274/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-4273921-0126348?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
I've been reading and practicing this for several years now. Dreaming has always fascinated me. I'm sure many have had a lucid dream in their lifetime without trying to directly induce one... most likely when they were children.
There's plenty of information out there. I'll try to dig up a few of my links.
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Crap I would hate to remember a wet dream while having dinner with the inlaws:(
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point is i have no dreams, or i not remember them:( never
"hott............." heh ;-)
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point is i have no dreams, or i not remember them never
"hott............." heh ;-)
Dream recall is essential. There are techniques you can use to increase your memory of dreaming.
1) Atleast 8 hours of sleep is needed. You dream at different invervals throughout the night called REM periods (rapid eye movement). REM sleep happens more and more frequently as the night goes on (hour T+4, +5, +6, etc) and each cycle lasts about a half hour to an hour. For example, if you were to fall asleep at 10pm, you'll be having REM periods back to back around 5-6am. If you only catch 6-7 hours of sleep, your chances of remembering any dreams are halved.
2) Journal: Try keeping a journal of your dreams. Anything, even if it's just a tiny spec of info that you remember, write it down. This will help to find patterns and reoccuring themes/objects/people in your dreams.
3) If you awaken naturally (without an alarm or something external waking you up), try to remain calm and dont move a muscle. Sit there and remember what just happened; where you were, what you were doing, what was happening. THEN write it down :)
Oh, and Turkey + B-vitamins help a lot :)
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i remember lots of dreams, but i just started thinkin to myself....wow itd be cool if you could control your dreams, so i searched bout it and found out about lucid dreaming and read about the stuff octavius described above so now ima try to persue it and see what happens, i have also been amazed by dreams and dreaming, it just amazes me how any given night you could be anywhere and anything can happen it seems so real but you always come out of it.
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ahhhh well as matter fact tis time for me to go to bed, so it starts:D
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Originally posted by Octavius
Dream recall is essential. There are techniques you can use to increase your memory of dreaming.
1) Atleast 8 hours of sleep is needed. You dream at different invervals throughout the night called REM periods (rapid eye movement). REM sleep happens more and more frequently as the night goes on (hour T+4, +5, +6, etc) and each cycle lasts about a half hour to an hour. For example, if you were to fall asleep at 10pm, you'll be having REM periods back to back around 5-6am. If you only catch 6-7 hours of sleep, your chances of remembering any dreams are halved.
2) Journal: Try keeping a journal of your dreams. Anything, even if it's just a tiny spec of info that you remember, write it down. This will help to find patterns and reoccuring themes/objects/people in your dreams.
3) If you awaken naturally (without an alarm or something external waking you up), try to remain calm and dont move a muscle. Sit there and remember what just happened; where you were, what you were doing, what was happening. THEN write it down :)
Oh, and Turkey + B-vitamins help a lot :)
yes i know all that, my wife have future dreems, sometimes
scarry me if it works. She translate dreems to "real language", heh
she just wake up (9 hours of timezeone diference) and tould me about earthquake. I ask her, it will be earthquake in RL ( im in CA right now) or its dream for you only.
She sad thats mean "changes in life" ( i hope, or i go to buy water and power cells) ;-)
She has forecasted secound war in gulf, astudmuffinnistan war, som attacks in israel......... men its sometimes scarry.
She is able to predict somone death in family.
Im wonder is she able to predict if i start cheat her ;-)
oh, and one more i sleep 6-7 hours per day, no more
ramzey
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set your first alarm 15/20 earlier than you need to get up
when that one goes off, turn it off and doze til next alarm goes off
in those 15/20 minuntes you should dream and be awaken in the middle of it
it helps if you are awaken during the dream cycle to recall it
everyone dreams, part of natural sleep. some just don't remember it
drinking/bonging will hinder, if not totally prevent, your dream recall
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Originally posted by Eagler
...drinking/bonging will hinder, if not totally prevent, your dream recall
But if you Drink the Bong water that may actually help :D
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I've had lucid dreams most of my life, and occasionally I can extert some control over them. I'll try out some of the techniques on that website and see what happens.
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I'll have to check that site out...I tend to get 8 hours sleep a night on average. My problem has always been if my dream is real or deja-vu..as I have that quite often. I have no idea why, just do. Kinda irks me if I have a nightmare...omg..is this coming true? Ya know?
Any of your research mention deja vu related stuff?
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I have the same problem Le Paul. I've had dreams that I've written down that have actually taken place later on. It's weird though how some have an odd twist to them. Those you know won't happen verbatim but might hold a certain meaning. Like last night I had a dream where I was driving like a madman in the truck on and off road at high speed with the Wife and in-laws onboard. I know that is not going to come true because my driving habits rival those of some old folks I know. On the other hand, when I started watching ticker symbols and monitoring the market before I jumped in I had a dream. A certain symbol would double within 2 weeks. I told my boss and said you need to buy this one, ofcourse he laughed. 2 weeks later he was crying. Sometimes it can be hard to tell which ones are going to happen and rarely if ever, when. Sadly I haven't had a similar dream since.
The ones that do come true seem to by life altering events most of the time, occasionaly leading up to a crossroads where a decision must be made.
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I also have had lucid dreams most of my life, pretty cool most the times, but at times my unconcious can take control and it can get a bit twisted (ie start to scare the crap outta me) and i have to wake myself up, (pretty wierd knowing your asleep and trying to wake up).
I probably got 50-75 percent control over them, might read that article, se if I can get some more control.
One other thing that always seems to happen, is I'l be in a WW2 dream or something and I need a gun, and no matter how hard I concentrate I can only ever get a bb gun or a cap gun. LOL :D
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Another item I forgot to mention...
You guys ever have dreams that seem to span a few days? Like resume where you left off? Or the same dream with a new twist? I had that a few months ago while recuperating from surgery...maybe related to the meds some...not sure. But come bed time, its like I was *back* and on with the adventure or whatever...
Acid: driving that nice Hummer like an old lady? Oh my...see I'd wondered if folks that drove dolled up SUVs, like the caddy one, cry and whince when a branch puts a scratch on those pretty paint jobs. What's that beastie get for mileage? Or is it so bad, you're now a voting member of OPEC? :cool:
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rgr that Lepaul. Meds will funkify your dreams for sure =]
I have an interest in the herbal and food category though. Kava, valerian root, blue-green aglae, and many others. Cannabis has a very negative effect on dreaming or becoming lucid.
5-htp (L-5-hydroxy Tryptophan) is also neat stuff. Tryptophan itself is found in turkey and other poultry. 5-HTP is converted into seratonin in your brain and is then used as a semi-sedative... to put you in a meditation and mentally relaxed and clear mode. So, after thanksgiving (along with the rest of the food you ate), thats why a nap feels sooo good :) It's putting you to sleep.
I mentioned b-vitamins before. A combination of B6 and B12 help keep your nervous system in top shape. A lack of B-vitamins tend to make a person lethargic and semi-unmotivated. Too much can put your nerves on high alert and cause insomnia. Usually I can saw logs no matter how much B vitamins I take... and it helps for some very interesting dreams when you're very 'sensitive.'
An overall combination of vitamins is not only necessary for good health, but helps dreaming a ton. Ascorbic acid helps (vitamin C). GNC's Megamen Multi-vitamins work wonders... and makes your urine glow in the dark :D
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lol I wouldnt mind scratches from branches. It's been off road too :D
I drive like an old lady in an attempt to control myself. The last thing we need is `hummer involved road rage` ;)
That reminds me, Sheikh Ahmed Fahed al-Sabah hasn't returned my call about the missing barrels from last weeks shipment.
currently 12.5mpg :aok
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We are all just butterflies. ;)
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LOL
Im sorry Acid, I have such short patience with bad drivers these days, if I had a Humvee, I want something with roof mounts. So, if someone cuts me off...at the next light, they can watch in their rear view mirror as I mount the TOW missile tubes :lol
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Ram..
Very fasciniating...
I actually have very clear dreams and almost always remember every detail, sometimes for months. I practiced lucid dreaming for a while and was able to produce 1 flying dream...(Like superman..no airplane) and one really good...uh...other dream. Hell I still remember both to this day.
The problem is I cannot control my dreams regularly. The trick is to realize you are in fact dreaming, without waking up.
I was able to produce a lucid dream by retaining semi-conciousness while falling asleep.
Any methods you've found work?
By the way, I also frequently have dreams that come true the next day. Silly, trivia things, like dreaming I would get a ticket for blowing a stop sign and the next day...or dreaming up winning lottery numbers only to win...(Only did this once...the pick 3 and it was for $300.00).
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Yeah muck when I want a lucid dream i lay as comfortabley as possible so that I wont get a dead arm or something then close my eyes and try to look into the distance.
After a while colours will swirl then images next and next movement ta da your dreaming!
Problem is, is if you notice this change to quickly you can jolt yourself awake Like falling off a chair and loose it all :(
Best i have are when i wake in the morning and spend hours dozing, wondering around within my dreams interacting with them is cool :cool:
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Damn blank! lucky SOB :) the technique you use is a tough one to master.
Basically keeping your mind conscious while your body physically sleeps is different for everyone.
For me, I use the WILD method (wake induced/initiated lucid dream). In a nutshell, you sleep for 6 hours, wake up and try to get your mind awake as possible for 30-60 minutes, then go back to sleep. When you get into bed, you'll want to try what Blank suggested. Concentrate on the "blackness" when your eyes are closed... stare off into the distance. Eventually, for me anyway, the blackness turns three dimensional.. it's tough to describe. Once that hits, soon after you'll be seeing the colors and strange images appear. It's similar to pressing on your eyes.
After about 20 minutes (again, for me, YMMV), you'll feel "vibrations" throughout your body. Thats your physical body falling asleep with your mind still awake to feel it. It's the same process that happens every night, only you're mentally asleep by that time. If you're at this point, you've found the 'door', now all you have to do is walk through :) Imagine a scenerio you'd like to be in... such as flying a plane, relaxing in a coastal villa, running through the park, or whatever you want. Drift in, and dont lose control :)
Once you're in, a few techniques can be used to stay aware.
If you begin to see tunnel vision or feel yourself waking up, try rubbing your hands together (or just LOOK at your hands... VERY funky).
Another way is to spin around. Keep spinning til ya feel you've got control again.
And last, once you feel yourself losing grip, try to fall or collapse in your dream. Dont move a muscle. Even if you do wake up, dont move a muscle, dont open your eyes. Chances are, you can drift right back into it if undisturbed.
Fun stuff
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I have had lucid dreams. I first learned about them years ago from a book my Father bought. Usually it happens just before waking or when snoozing. The problem I find is that my mind plays tricks on me so that I only dream that I'm controlling my dream. Very annoying that. But I do enjoy my dreams as they contrast nicely with the boring drudgery of my normal life.
Last night for example I dreamt I was a Marine on guard somewhere like Iraq or Afghanistan, with the sounds of battle closing in and then the realisation we were surrounded and likely to go down fighting to the last bullet. I can still feel the combination of real fear, defiance and pride in the Corps I actually felt in the dream as I counted my last few rounds and loaded them into the magazine of my rifle. Dreams can be amazing sometimes and give a small insight into how you might feel in a real life situation.
Like some others mentioned, I too find some dreams almost predict events. But only if I remember them vividly when I wake. The dream above falls into that category incidentally, though I'm not a Marine or ever will be. But I seem to be able to dream as another person. I once dreamt that I was clearly in London when something happens, smoke, fire confusion in the street. Fire crews arriving. I look down realising I'm wearing clothes I never wear in real life and see my trousers ripped, my leg bleeding with nails embedded in it. A nail bomb I realised. A few weeks later I see the news, some loony planted a nail bomb in London. I recognise the news footage. Very spooky. That kind of thing has happened several times since. Usually though I get what I call the movie version, details changed but the basic story remains the same. Not big dramas all the time but always negative if only predictions of minor stressful events.. I still think it's weird and spooky and possibility just a series of coincidences.
But I'm off to bed perchance to dream, perhaps even tomorrow's lottery numbers. Now there's dream come true:cool: