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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hangtime on October 29, 2000, 07:09:00 PM
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Lets say there's a mission up on the planner, and it's for a FIGHTER SWEEP.. The missions objective is to clear and cap the airspace over a defended target; prepatory to a JABO/STRIKE mission comming in. What's your favorite plane for the FIGHTER SWEEP mission; and how would you load it out?
Example:
P51, 50% internal fuel; and 2 external tanks.
Next; assuming you wished to join a JABO/STRIKE mission and you wanted to take a Fighter/Bomber with a JABO loadout, what plane would you take; and how would you load it out??
Two part question here, First; assume your JABO targets are the hangers and structures as well as any defending armor on the field. State your prefered plane type; and fuel/ordanance config for a hanger/anti-armor role.
Second; if the mission used a JABO A/C to attack field acks (instead of a B26 or B17) in a specialized role; what plane would you use; and how would you load it for JABO'ing field acks?
Example:
F4U1C, 75% fuel, 2 1k eggs, no rockets for hanger and armor strikes. 500's and rockets for acks.
Please feel free to add any commentary or reasoning behind your choices that you feel would be useful in planning missions of these types; and what type mission you would prefer to fly. I.E. What plane is best for anti-armor, which one is best at wild-weasleing acks? Why?
Thanks!
Hang
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190a8 4x20mm 100% fuel and DT's
190a5 4x20mm 100% fuel and DT's
109g10 1x30mm 100% fuel and DT's or 3x20mm
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for fighter sweeps it's whatever kite I feel like flying (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
In the JABO role, really only one kite can do the hanger/anti-armor at the same time. The -1C. Drop the 2 1k eggs, reverse and shoot off the rockets, quick weapon switch to activate the second gun bank, lay down on the trigger = dead hanger. Then you've still got 250-275rds (in each bank) to strafe tanks with.
V bases I'll use any kite in the inventory, save the Yak, La5 (never flown it), and 109s. Any of them can strafe down the ack and hanger in 2 passes.
A bases:
If I'm assigned hanger duty I prefer the jug or lightning. 2 1k eggs + 10 rockets = dead hanger. Depending on distance to target either 75% or 100% internal fuel.
If I'm on anti-armor patrol I prefer the -1C with 2x1k eggs and 100% fuel.
For ack duty I'll use just about any kite in the inventory, save the 109F4, G2, or G6, or La5 (cause I just dinnae fly it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ). I've taken down all the acks at a small base in a Yak9 before, and had 150 or so MG rounds and all cannon rounds left to vulch with. I think I've got that one on film too.
Mayhap we'll have to start organizing some more of our massive jabo raids. They've kinda fallen off with the introduction of the quakewind =\
BTW hang, go to the help/training board and look for the thread 'JABO: use what ya got'. I posted a couple of JABO films.
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Rgr Cavey.. I'm trying to get a feel for whats 'popular' in those roles so i can put up missions on the mission planer in the Main arena that will have what folks most like to fly in those roles. No point in loading up a mission with odd a/c that nobody wants to fly; or submitting their fav A/C configured in a way that's unattractive.
Thanks for the input; keep it commin! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Hey, you're a bishop... My favorate jabo plane is a A6M, fully loaded with fuel. I aah... use it in ANY jabo role. Hope this helps you plan your attacks better Hang (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Niki, 50%, DT
F4U-1C, 75%, 2x1000lb or P51, 50%, 2x1000lb
Niki, 50%, DT, 2x250kg
SOB
Wait a sec...bishop...missions?!? whoa!
[This message has been edited by SOB (edited 10-29-2000).]
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I fly mainly LW so heres my typical loadouts........
sweep:
109g10 75% DT 20mm no gonds or
109g2 50% DT 20mm + gonds
jabo:
190a8 75%or100% 500kg+rockets 2x30mm+20mm or
Ju88 50%2x250kg 2x500kg(3000lb) 10x50kg(ack) (gives@1100ft/min climb)
jabo with lots of cons:
190a8 75% 500kg+rockets 2x20mm
jabo possible ground cons:
Ju88 25% 4x500kg
hazed
[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 10-29-2000).]
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typhoon 100% fuel, 2x1000
typhoon 100% fuel, 2x1000
typhoon 100% fuel, 2x1000
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Great info.. particularly the LW and Japanese stuff; which I know nothin about. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks guys; keep em commin!
Hang
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max loading for Jabo and Vfield attack P47-D30, 1 DT, 2 1000#, 10 rockts, 50% fuel.
For radar attack, P47-D25, 2 DT, 1 500#, 50% fuel.
For CAP 2 DT, 50% fuel (1 DT if eni is known inbound).
note:50% is not a lot, usually I run out of fuel before out of amo. But 50% is because I turnfight, a pure B&Zoomer would take 75%/100%. Oh and if higher when enagging, I keep my DT's for 1/2 passes.
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I remove 1/2 the screws from my plane, take out the radio, fuzzy dice on mirror, the mirror, seat padding, drain 1/2 the oil from engine, 1/2 the Anti-freeze from radiator, and only take 4 rounds per gun, and 1/2 of a 50kg bomb......
This make my plane real fast, but unforunately, I fly with my eyes shut, so I never leave the airfield, I just do donuts on the tarmac.
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Fighter Sweep
Spitfire MkIX, 100% fuel, DT, 2 20mm cannon and 4 .303 machine guns.
Strike
Typhoon MkIb, 100% fuel and 8 rockets
Field Strike
P-47D-30, 75% fuel, 8 50 cals with 425rpg, 10 rockets, 2 1000lb bombs and 1 500lb bomb
Sisu
-Karnak
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Fighter Sweep:
A6M5b with 75% fuel and DT (centerline one)
Yak 75% or 100% - depending on range
F4U-1C - 75%, sometimes single DT
Spit 9 - 75% w/ DT
Jabo (structures and armor)
F4U-1C - Just guns, sometimes rockets
Jabo (acks and structures)
P-47D-30 - 75% fuel, 10 Rockets
F4U-1C (V Base special (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) 75% fuel, just guns
Sometimes I will switch, but those are the main planes i end up flying.
-math
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Fighter Sweep
109 G-2, 75% fuel, Drop tank, 3x20mm.
Bombing mission
Ju88 A-4, 20x50kg, 4x500kg, 75% fuel. Escorted by 109 G-2's.
If there are not enough pilots for a bombing mission or a quick jabo strike is needed:
Jabo
FW 190 A-8, 2x30mms, Rockets, 500kg bomb, 100% fuel.
Typhoon, 2x1000lbs bombs, 75%/100% fuel.
Camo
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P-47: 25% fuel, under belly drop tank.
P47 (Jabo): 100% fuel, 10 under wing rockets, two under wing 1000' lbers and a 50 lber under the belly.
and when I take one of these it's usually...
P-38: 25% fuel, one under wing tank
P-38 Jabo: 75% fuel, 10 rockets and two 100 lbers
109: 50% fuel, under belly drop tank
202/205: 100% fuel
Zeke: 50% fuel, under belly drop tank
LA5N 75% fuel.
YAK 75% fuel.
I don't fly Niki, Spit or F4u-1C's and I only "jabo" with P-47 and P-38.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 10-30-2000).]
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Fighter Sweep
109F, 75% fuel, Drop tank, 20mm's with gondolas.
Jabo
(Try to avoid as I stink at it)
P38, rockets and two drop tanks, 75% fuel -
with luck, I can flatten an abandoned VH with it
Eagler
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Fighter Sweep
Spitfire Mk IX with 2x20mm & 2x.50, droptank and 50% fuel
Spitfire Mk V 100% fuel
Yak9T 100% fuel
Fighter/bomber
Typhoon 2x1000lbs 100% fuel
In the Typhoon I don't see any point in taking rockets because I can't hit anything smaller than a hanger with them and against hangers the 1000lbers are much better. The bombs are also very effectiver against tanks. Even if I'm only looking at straffing aaa having the bombs along doesn't really hurt since you really don't want to take a Typhoon too high, they handle really badly at altitude. and you can aqlways just drop them if you get bounced. It's just so handy to have the extra damage potential of 2000lbs of bombs with me.
100% fuel hampers the performance of the Typhoon, but I like to be able to get back to base if the attack goes wrong and we don't get a capture.
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Do I really need to answer this (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ice
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Fighter sweep: P-51D, 75% fuel, two drop tanks, dropped when action is entered.
JABO: P-38, 75% fuel, two 1000lb, 10 rockets. I'd pick the P-47, but I wouldn't want anyone to puke from the rocking this thing has in autoclimb.
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Rickenbacker (Ricken)
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the Independent Swedish Air Force
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This is GREAT stuff!! tanks everyone!
Now I have an idea of how to correctly set up a "blitz" LW specialised mission..as well as a varitey of Allied specialised missions.
Anybody got any prefrences on how they'd set up a Zeke and George raiding party's loadout with the intent to capture a field?? Sorta like the old TORA! TORA! TORA! raids we used to do in WB's. Gawd; they wuz a pisser.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BANZAI! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Load the a6m with all 3 bombs, N1k with 2, fuel dependent on how far you're going.
The smaller planes are underestimated a lot, but you can pinpoint those drops (especially on a moving target). Of course any plane in AH can get ack by strafing.
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Hiya Hangtime,
To make it short, for me and most of my squad we ussually use the CHogs,and ussually b17 or Lancaster w/500
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[This message has been edited by NHFoxtro (edited 10-31-2000).]