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Title: Railway guns
Post by: Capt. Pork on October 22, 2003, 10:29:10 AM
Something in the 280-350mm range might be nice. Position them on circular tracks at several points on each map and treat them like vehicle bases with maprooms and strats to disable and/or capture.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: bigsky on October 22, 2003, 02:42:55 PM
nice idea but they would be difficult to aim with any accuracy.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Capt. Pork on October 22, 2003, 06:54:37 PM
I was thinking they could be equipped with the 'land mode' feature as our naval guns currently are. Then the gun would traverse automatically and level itself to the proper elevation. If they were extremely generous over at HTC, they might even give us the famous Dora battery, which ran on double-tracks and fired seven ton, 800mm projectiles. These guns were used on a limited basis on the Eastern front, namely during the siege of Sevastepol, but were widely regarded as an unforgiveable misappropriation of manpower. Each battery required over a thousand troops and technicians to maintain and operate and could only deliver a shell or so an hour. Still, pretty impressive and still the biggest artillery piece ever fielded in combat.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Wolfala on October 27, 2003, 03:26:29 PM
Do you wish to include the 3 weeks it took to setup this mamouth siege weapon? In the time it would've taken, countless whine's would've been recorded as we wanted fester's MA, and were thrown back to Pizza and Big Isles. God help us...
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Jester on October 31, 2003, 10:11:27 PM
I would be happy if they had a few "manable" flak guns on the trains.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Capt. Pork on November 04, 2003, 11:29:02 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Do you wish to include the 3 weeks it took to setup this mamouth siege weapon? In the time it would've taken, countless whine's would've been recorded as we wanted fester's MA, and were thrown back to Pizza and Big Isles. God help us...


Well, if they let any old schmo take control of a Carrier group and sail it in circles, I think they can let us go with a quicker set-up/fire period than was historically accurate. Either way, I know it's a far-fetched request... BTW wolf, nice avatar. Why are you on probation??
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Sarge1 on November 07, 2003, 05:34:07 PM
before Ah changed the guns on trains.. you should fly near one...lol they were worse than rail guns.. was the deadliest train i went near.. but they lowered the power of it now
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 09, 2003, 03:47:42 AM
Those trains were really awsome! unless you're in a 262 or a heavy jug with some speed/ordnance you're doomed against that beast!

(btw, don't ever drive on the rails with a tank....believe me...)
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Ecliptik on November 10, 2003, 12:21:18 AM
350mm is still a lower caliber than a 16" naval gun, and battleships have almost a dozen of them.  The railway gun concept isn't very useful.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 10, 2003, 10:22:26 AM
well, the fleet can't shoot very far land inwards. It would be usefull to have a gun like that far away from shore
Title: Railway guns
Post by: john9001 on November 10, 2003, 10:44:07 AM
AH does not have a battleship , it has a cruiser, i think the big guns are 8".
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Ecliptik on November 10, 2003, 02:57:53 PM
Battlecruisers typically have similar armament to Battleships, but have thinner armor and are faster.  The ship we have in AH can't be just a Cruiser, they mainly only carried 4" - 6" guns and were smaller than what we have.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Jester on November 10, 2003, 04:01:39 PM
The Cruiser we have here in AH is a US Baltimore Class Heavy Crusier (CA) with 8 inch Guns.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 11, 2003, 09:54:03 AM
What's a normal cruising speed for a fleet in those days? I got the impression that it always sails at full battle speed
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Jester on November 11, 2003, 05:21:04 PM
Usual fleet cruising speed was in the 20 - 25 Knot range depending on sea conditions. The Cruisers and Carriers had a top speed of 33 Knots but usually didn't move that fast unless the enemy was about or they were launching or recovering aircraft.

You are correct, the fleets here are at "Full Throttle" all the time. It is all a PT Boat can do to keep up and I have tested it - they will out run a torpedo fired in the same direction!
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 12, 2003, 11:04:21 AM
It is? I always thought the PT could outrun it, not easily, but it could keep up Im sure.

This really makes the torpedoing very hard, add the fact of the fleet shooting VERY much :eek:
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Jester on November 16, 2003, 03:45:41 AM
The type of torpedo modeled here in AH must be the US MK 10 or 13. It only had about a 25-27 knot speed at best with a 550 lb. warhead.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 16, 2003, 05:27:54 AM
Also all the torpedo's are the same, japanese torps were alot more reliable then the american ones.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Pooh21 on November 16, 2003, 05:45:48 AM
we already have railguns in the form of the hispano
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Seeker on November 16, 2003, 06:01:05 AM
I'd like to see shore battery guns inland; maybe around strat targets.

If/as the ground war in AH develops (along with terrain); it may be possible in future to set up a realistic representation of Europe complete with Siegfried lines and similar.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 16, 2003, 12:19:13 PM
Agree, would be fun if we had to conquer them guns. like dropping goon on 'em or something before we can actually use the trouble-makers
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Pei on November 16, 2003, 08:25:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
Battlecruisers typically have similar armament to Battleships, but have thinner armor and are faster.  The ship we have in AH can't be just a Cruiser, they mainly only carried 4" - 6" guns and were smaller than what we have.


WWII light cruisers typically had 5"-6" guns, heavy cruisers typcially had 8" guns. In AH we have one of the US heavy cruisers (I can't remember which class it is) with 8" guns.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: Jester on November 17, 2003, 07:29:39 AM
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Originally posted by Jester
The Cruiser we have here in AH is a US Baltimore Class Heavy Crusier (CA) with 8 inch Guns.
Title: Railway guns
Post by: frank3 on November 17, 2003, 09:02:41 AM
Well heavy cruiser or not, they still cruise to bloody fast