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Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Bodhi on October 23, 2003, 09:53:52 PM
Hey all, with a flash of white light, sizzling sound, and a puff of acrid smoke, my monitor died this evening.  Quite a freaky, and somewhat scary sight, as I thought the damn thing was gonna burst into flames.  Anyways, I need a new monitor, and I prefer the minimum of a 19" screen.  Any suggestions from you out there on newer models?  Howw about the flat screens out there, They worth it?

Any help is appreciated.

:aok
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 23, 2003, 09:55:43 PM
One that doesnt explode? :)
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: NUKE on October 23, 2003, 10:21:21 PM
Dont get a flat screen if you want the best image and want a good monitor for games or movies.

I like my NEC multiSync FE991 a lot

I would not go with a flatscreen myself.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Twist on October 23, 2003, 10:24:27 PM
Stay away from LCD flat screens and do NOT buy anything from Sams Club.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: AKIron on October 23, 2003, 10:43:10 PM
You guys are saying don't get a flat screen. Do you mean flat panel (lcd)? Flat screen CRT monitors have the best picture of all imo.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: NUKE on October 23, 2003, 10:48:58 PM
You are right, CRT flat screens have the best picture. I meant say stay away from LCD's and Plasma screens....which now seem to be refered to as "flat screens"
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Maverick on October 23, 2003, 10:57:37 PM
How much you wanting to spend?

I got an Envision 19" flat screen CRT at Comp USA about 3 months ago and am happy. It was on sale and quite a bit less than others. I looked at the entire line of monitoprs and did see some that had a better picture but not for the money they wanted for the little improvement AFAIC.

Check Best buy and Comp USA if they are in your area. I'd also loo in Costco and Sams Club for the same units. So far even "bargain" CRT's have given me good service for several years. Especially if they are "name" brands on close out.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Ghosth on October 24, 2003, 07:58:31 AM
Twist I have to disagree.

Its been 5 years since I bought the first monitor from sam's club, we are currently on #5. absolutely not a speck of trouble with any of them. They are all still in use.
3 of them are 5 years old & going strong.

Mostly CTX although my last is a samtron.

On the other hand, I bought 2 monitors from an expensive computer place.

Both fried within 3 years.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Maniac on October 24, 2003, 08:03:36 AM
Dont listen to the nerds.

Get a flat screen... They dont cost that much anyway nowadays.

Flat screen is the way to go...
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Angus on October 24, 2003, 08:10:16 AM
I have a 19 " CTX monitor. The flat one, not the thin one. Very very good monitor ;)
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Strange on October 24, 2003, 08:31:36 AM
Well at home I have the 21" (19" something viewable) Samsung dfi 955 flat picture tube and love it.  I got it 2 years ago from best buy. I really wanted a Sony to replace my old one but I saw the picture quality of this compaired to the Sony and hands down had it beat.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Nilsen on October 24, 2003, 09:29:15 AM
I have a 19" LCD and its great. Will never get a CRT again unless you are a serious Image/video editor guy. CRT's have better colour rendering.

If you find that new LCD's are not for gaming then i would guess that you spend waaay to much time playing games :D
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Replicant on October 24, 2003, 10:58:40 AM
Just had a new monitor delivered today.  I chose:-

Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454 19" CRT
(http://www.artsystems.co.uk/images/products/monitors/vmpro454.jpg)

Completely flat screen, and the base has built in speakers (won't use them), built in 4 x USB hub, Mic connector.

The impressive thing is the refresh rate!

2048 x 1536 @ 80 hz
1800 x 1440 @ 85 hz
1600 x 1200 @ 100 hz
1280 x 1024 @ 120 hz
1024 x 768 @ 160 hz

I'm now running at 1600 x 1200 @ 100hz!  Very bright screen though, just need to tweak it a little!

Website: http://www.iiyama.co.uk/
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: JB73 on October 24, 2003, 04:52:56 PM
wow replicant .. nice monitor .... but not avail un US Grrrrrr

i just spent the last hour looking for a monitor that has those resolutions AND refresh rate....

there were ZERO!


i really didnt find anything decent in the 19' CRT monitor with a refresh above 60 for 1900x1600. (i want 1280x1024 @ 90-100hz or better personally)

btw replicant.. whats £259 in US dollars?
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: mrblack on October 24, 2003, 04:55:38 PM
I have a viewsonic pf790 19'
It has served me well.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Replicant on October 24, 2003, 05:18:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB73
wow replicant .. nice monitor .... but not avail un US Grrrrrr

i just spent the last hour looking for a monitor that has those resolutions AND refresh rate....

there were ZERO!


i really didnt find anything decent in the 19' CRT monitor with a refresh above 60 for 1900x1600. (i want 1280x1024 @ 90-100hz or better personally)

btw replicant.. whats £259 in US dollars?


£259 = $414 but I got mine for $355

I found this US website that sell it too http://www.iiyama-mart.com/ - they sell it for $358 which is the cheapest I saw it in the US.  Try searching some more websites for the Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454.

The only negative thing about this monitor is that it has 2 very, very faint horizontal lines, one near top, one near bottom, but I've been reliably informed that this is normal for DiamondTron monitors (prolly why it has such a high refresh rate).
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 24, 2003, 06:06:33 PM
I could let you know where you can get large, S.O.T.A. flat screens for free, but with your monitor presently broken, you wouldn't be able to read my message anyway.....

I wonder how are you able to use the mouse and check your posts without having some visual feedback... :confused: ;)
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Bodhi on October 24, 2003, 06:32:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I could let you know where you can get large, S.O.T.A. flat screens for free, but with your monitor presently broken, you wouldn't be able to read my message anyway.....

I wonder how are you able to use the mouse and check your posts without having some visual feedback... :confused: ;)



Using my laptop.  Which is what I used for 90% pf what I do anyways.  Anyways, I would prefer a flat panel, but am a bit nervous on all I havee heard.  Money is not really an object in it, but I refuse to spend over $1000.00 on a monitor.  Appreciate all your suggestions thus far.

:)
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Dinger on October 24, 2003, 09:58:01 PM
LCD screens (Flat panels, whatever), have taken big steps in the past year.  Now they have refresh rates that make them as good as CRTs for games.

The breakdown comes to:

A) Color Fidelity: Flat Panels still don't get the proper reproduction of a CRT.  Some get close, but they still tend to skew blue.

B) Eyestrain: the high contrast ratios of flat panels mean they're much easier on the eyes.  If you're staring at a computer all day, this is what you want.

C) Refresh Rates: as noted, flat panels have improved with refresh rates, but pay attention to what you buy.  A low-end one will leave all kinds of ghosts and make video and games impossible.

D) Cost: Flat Panels are getting cheaper, but CRTs are still cost-effective.

E) Weight: I replaced my 60lb NEC PF 995 with an 11lb Hitachi CLM 174.  Oh yeah it's nice.

Do your research.
(oh and I like http://www.monitorsdirect.com/.  They've gone the extra mile for me in the past).
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Twist on October 24, 2003, 10:02:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ghosth
Twist I have to disagree.

Its been 5 years since I bought the first monitor from sam's club, we are currently on #5. absolutely not a speck of trouble with any of them. They are all still in use.
3 of them are 5 years old & going strong.

Mostly CTX although my last is a samtron.

On the other hand, I bought 2 monitors from an expensive computer place.

Both fried within 3 years.


I guess they sell all the good stuff up north where you are :p

CTX lasted about 14 months, my new Samtron adjusts the screen size at will (desktop only) but plays AH and other games just fine. I come downstairs often to find the screen about 4 inches high, power off/on and it restores to normal size. However, within minutes, it begins to shrink vertically once again. The club where I purchased the monitor said I cannot exchange it and suggested I send it to the company listed in my owners manual. This monitor is only 6 months old, kinda frustrating to have to deal with something like this. I'm getting a 22" Mitsubishi with my new PC so it's not a major concern any more.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: JB73 on October 25, 2003, 07:43:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Replicant
£259 = $414 but I got mine for $355

I found this US website that sell it too http://www.iiyama-mart.com/ - they sell it for $358 which is the cheapest I saw it in the US.  Try searching some more websites for the Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454.

The only negative thing about this monitor is that it has 2 very, very faint horizontal lines, one near top, one near bottom, but I've been reliably informed that this is normal for DiamondTron monitors (prolly why it has such a high refresh rate).
our monitors @ work have those lines too (high end compaq 21" for doing xerox graphics... they run above 1900x1600 at like 120hz )

the listing on that page shows the 19" running 1280x1024 @ 89hz not the 120 yours runs @ ???????? (still the best performing monitor i have found online)

oh well TY for the link... i know what i'm buying next month lol
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Replicant on October 25, 2003, 08:20:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB73
our monitors @ work have those lines too (high end compaq 21" for doing xerox graphics... they run above 1900x1600 at like 120hz )

the listing on that page shows the 19" running 1280x1024 @ 89hz not the 120 yours runs @ ???????? (still the best performing monitor i have found online)

oh well TY for the link... i know what i'm buying next month lol


Hi again

Must be misprint - checked on the main Iiyama website and found this:-

1920 x 1440 / max. 86 Hz
1600 x 1280 / max. 97 Hz
1600 x 1200 / max. 104 Hz
1480 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1280 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1024 x 768 / max. 162 Hz
800 x 600 / max. 200 Hz
640 x 480 / max. 200 Hz

Goto http://www.iiyama.com/default.asp, select products, choose Vision Master Pro 454 from CRT drop down menu, then select Technical details. They also have a list of where you can buy the monitor from.

Incidently, the VM Pro 454 is also known as 'HM903DT' which you need to know when you download the drivers!  Mine is actually the HM903DT 'A', dunno what the 'A' means and if it's any different?
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: eskimo2 on October 25, 2003, 04:26:19 PM
I've had a 19' Viewsonic A90 for many years.  Still has a perfect picture.

When I got a new game machine a year+ ago, I bought a $90 17'MAC POS for the old machine, and put the A90 on my game machine.  

Well, the MAC never had a clear picture, and lately its started hissing, getting burryer, losing color, and getting worse by the day.

So I went to Best Buy and bought a 19' Viewsonic A90f+ Flatscreen for $230.  Its on the game machine now, and the old A90 is on the old machine.  
Great monitor, affordable, and flat, no glare.  

Get one.

eskimo
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: rpm on October 25, 2003, 06:25:06 PM
I have a 17" MAGinnovision and love it. It is a 93 model (good grief!). It was given to me 5 years ago by a friend that wanted a new monitor. I have had 0 problems with it, other than a frayed wire on the connector and it still has a great picture. Check TigerDirect.com , they always have some great deals.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: qts on October 26, 2003, 04:27:43 AM
I have an Iiyama Visionmaster Pro 510. 22" monitor. If you've lots of deskspace, this is the one to get. It's very heavy, though. The current version is £419 and 30 Kg. I run 1600x1200x32@100Hz.
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: Bodhi on October 26, 2003, 08:38:52 PM
Picked up a NEC 19" Multisync 97F tonight for $200.00

It is a decent deal and I appreciate all your input.  

THanks again.

:aok
Title: My monitor crapped out tonight... any ideas on a new model?
Post by: beet1e on October 27, 2003, 05:05:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Replicant
Just had a new monitor delivered today.  I chose:-

Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454 19" CRT
(http://www.artsystems.co.uk/images/products/monitors/vmpro454.jpg)

Completely flat screen, and the base has built in speakers (won't use them), built in 4 x USB hub, Mic connector.

The impressive thing is the refresh rate!

2048 x 1536 @ 80 hz
1800 x 1440 @ 85 hz
1600 x 1200 @ 100 hz
1280 x 1024 @ 120 hz
1024 x 768 @ 160 hz

I'm now running at 1600 x 1200 @ 100hz!  Very bright screen though, just need to tweak it a little!

Website: http://www.iiyama.co.uk/


NEXX - how much did you pay for that? I'm going to be building a new PC next month, and want a flat screen. Currently have a iiyama Vision Master 450 which I bought 2½ years ago for £385. It's been fine, but I'd like something that's not as deep. The current one needs about 2 feet of space. Other than that, I've been satisfied with the iiyama.