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Title: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 27, 2003, 04:44:49 PM
I just tried out the open beta release and I hope that those tracer effects are not in the game you are going to release!

They look like crap!

:(
Title: Tracers
Post by: acepilot2 on October 27, 2003, 04:57:29 PM
What do you mean they look like crap? Unless your system cant handle them, they look awesome...they remind me of tracers from world war II guncam footage.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Rutilant on October 27, 2003, 04:58:40 PM
hey, did HiTech's "It's beta, stupid" thread get deleted?
Title: Tracers
Post by: acepilot2 on October 27, 2003, 05:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Pleas edit this out right now.. :o


done.  Why? I dunno, you know when the slo-mo bullets are headed to neo....the little spiral trails coming out of the bullets just remind me of the tracers in ah2.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Rutilant on October 27, 2003, 05:01:03 PM
Thank you! :D

Mentioning the matrix kinda ruined your point there.. :lol

If you get what i mean.. matrix bullets in a flight sim.. weellllll..
Title: Tracers
Post by: Joc on October 27, 2003, 06:16:15 PM
Gotta admit Im not keen on the tracer effect,kinda looks like firing string or somethin,maybe if it was less 'curly' or somthin lol ,I prefer the AH1 tracers to be honest (takes cover!)
Title: Re: Tracers
Post by: BenDover on October 27, 2003, 06:44:59 PM
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Originally posted by Machine
I just tried out the open beta release and I hope that those tracer effects are not in the game you are going to release!

They look like crap!

:(


this is the AH2 Open Beta BUG REPORTS Forum, not the 'express your whiney feedback' thats what the other forum is for.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 27, 2003, 07:28:13 PM
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Originally posted by Joc
Gotta admit Im not keen on the tracer effect,kinda looks like firing string or somethin,maybe if it was less 'curly' or somthin lol ,I prefer the AH1 tracers to be honest (takes cover!)



I think we are on to something here:

Silly string out of the can!

Kinda looks like that come to think of it!

Gun Camera!  We aren't sitting behind the gun camera in the cockpit!  Those rounds are coming out of the wings.

 :rofl :lol :D :p
Title: Re: Re: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 27, 2003, 07:32:07 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
this is the AH2 Open Beta BUG REPORTS Forum, not the 'express your whiney feedback' thats what the other forum is for.



I was just hoping that they might change this too before the release!  And this is what a beta forum is all about.  Expressing some viewpoints on what the people want to see in the next release.  And Silly String coming out of the sides of the cockpit look like Crap!  Get rid of it.
Title: Tracers
Post by: acepilot2 on October 27, 2003, 07:37:01 PM
I think it looks good, but then again I dont think too many people here have actually sat in the cockpit of a plane and fired its machine guns while going 300 mph...and some guncam footage looks like the tracers.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 27, 2003, 07:38:53 PM
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Originally posted by acepilot2
I think it looks good, but then again I dont think too many people here have actually sat in the cockpit of a plane and fired its machine guns while going 300 mph...and some guncam footage looks like the tracers.


Well, I'm retired military and I have!  And it doesn't look like that!

Sorry

;)
Title: Tracers
Post by: Kommandant on October 27, 2003, 08:29:45 PM
look at wwII camera footage, thats how the tracers come out. espically on stukas

if you don't like it in the game, then turn it off.... wow, problem solved and it diddn't take a call to do it.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 28, 2003, 04:55:41 PM
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Originally posted by Kommandant
if you don't like it in the game, then turn it off.... wow, problem solved and it diddn't take a call to do it.



Oh Yea, this is a good way to solve any problem...

JUST TURN IT OFF!

Oh, this solves many problems...  When you going to run for office?

:rofl :rolleyes:
Title: Tracers
Post by: mrblack on October 28, 2003, 05:25:15 PM
Here I will make it easy for you.
Just read the following and try and keep up with the rest of us will you:rolleyes:

Funny I see nothing about tracers?




Remember, it's BETA
Folks, we appreciate you taking the time to test this BETA, but please remember, it is a BETA. BETA is not something that is about enjoyment. They are for the purpose of the developer, to test various items in the software.

There are items/features in the game which take little development time. These have not been included with the BETA.

Items we are interested in, right now, are things like the black ICONS/text, not being able to run the game at all, and various other blatant graphics problems/anomalies.

Again, we appreciate the ime you are taking to help us make this BETA worthwhile.


__________________
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skuzzy@hitechcreations.com
Title: Tracers
Post by: Kommandant on October 28, 2003, 09:14:33 PM
Yeah Personally I think the Beta is really good, of course I can't run it on my comp yet, but I did see it on a friends comp. Keep up the good work HTC staff
Title: Tracers
Post by: BenDover on October 29, 2003, 02:01:48 AM
I'm confused, so is mr black skuzzy?
And why's he not using his skuzzy account?
Title: Tracers
Post by: Ecliptik on October 29, 2003, 10:39:03 AM
He just copied and pasted one of Skuzzy's posts, including the signature.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Eagler on October 29, 2003, 11:17:34 AM
silly string - LOL

that is funny as they do resemble the stuff :)

don't use tracers so it don't matter to me unless the "silly string" has an affect on fps
Title: Tracers
Post by: BenDover on October 29, 2003, 11:29:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
He just copied and pasted one of Skuzzy's posts, including the signature.


that explains that
Title: Tracers
Post by: mrblack on October 29, 2003, 02:23:04 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
I'm confused, so is mr black skuzzy?
And why's he not using his skuzzy account?


Your just confused LOL
Title: Tracers
Post by: BenDover on October 29, 2003, 03:55:38 PM
Why you copy sig, Joe?
Title: Tracers
Post by: mrblack on October 29, 2003, 04:25:44 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
Why you copy sig, Joe?


Who is Joe?
Still confused:rofl
Title: Tracers
Post by: Machine on October 30, 2003, 06:40:50 AM
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Originally posted by mrblack
Here I will make it easy for you.
Just read the following and try and keep up with the rest of us will you:rolleyes:

Funny I see nothing about tracers?




Remember, it's BETA



Gessshhhh, gues you didn't read my last post?  Oh, I get it, you read it, but it didn't mean anything to you.

Or you read it and you could not figure out what I was saying.

Or you just didn't read it all the way..

Or your just a puke!

:rofl
Title: Tracers
Post by: mrblack on October 30, 2003, 02:42:00 PM
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Originally posted by Machine
Oh Yea, this is a good way to solve any problem...

JUST TURN IT OFF!

Oh, this solves many problems...  When you going to run for office?

:rofl :rolleyes:


Well here is your last post .
And I for one see nothing in it that helps in the Beta proccess.
All I see Is whining .
Please be a little more constructive will you?
Title: Tracers
Post by: Yeager on October 30, 2003, 03:27:39 PM
The spiral tracer smoke effect is not believable looking, unless your a big Matrix fan (Isuppose alot of the kids here are)

The diameter of smoke spiral looks way too large and the length from top to top of two adjoining spirals looks way too short for even large caliber projectiles.  Faced with the option of having to look at that effect or turn tracers off it would be simply turn tracers off.

The atmospherhic conditions that allowed for a smoke trail were not persisitant but rather rare from what the historical record indicates to me.  The effect as modeled in Beta is not believable and way overdone imo.
Title: Tracers
Post by: fuzeman on October 31, 2003, 03:07:39 AM
I also noticed the size and thought it was large, but I've only seen film so I can't say anything positively. One thing I did notice was the tracking of the tracers. It seems 'funny'. If your pulling up and firing, the tracer trails don't stay where they were fired, they seem to climb with the plane that's firing them. It's the same as in original AH though.

I can understand making them state of the art graphically but personally I'll have mine off as I do in AH.

fuzeman
Title: Tracers
Post by: Midnight on October 31, 2003, 08:54:15 AM
I am sure HTC is aware of how the tracers look and is working on improving them.

Just by observation, I will include what I have found with the current tracers.

Do this test --
1. In a Tiger, turn on tracers and use the Pintle MG. Use external view and then fire tracers in an arc going around the tank.

What you will see is that all of the tracer trails stay exactly the same appearance. Then rather than the ends spreading and disapating like smoke, the entire trail quickly fades then disapears all at once. <<-- that looks rather (for lack of a better word) stupid

I think to make the effect better, we need to see the ends of the trail spread out and then slowly disapate from the source to the impact point of the bullet.
Title: Tracers
Post by: Wilbus on November 01, 2003, 11:00:27 AM
They are way too solid and stay in the air too long, look more like Quake rail gun as it is now. Hopefully they'll be changed to something what Midnight sugest. Didn't B17 II have nice looking tracers?
Title: Tracers
Post by: vorticon on November 01, 2003, 09:27:13 PM
if all you can do is ***** about tracers on in the WRONG forum then you shouldent be beta testing you CLUELESS DOLT

the tracer "problem" has been gone over only a million times before

do the tracers take away from the overall gameplay? NO
do they take away the overall feel of the game? probably not
are they going to be changed before it goes online? probably yes
do the tracers still do there job even with the bigarse trails? YES
is your complaint fixed in 2 seconds by turning tracers off? yes


now sit down shutup provide some usefull information and let them do there job
Title: Tracers
Post by: MOIL on November 10, 2003, 10:35:03 PM
You guys are very entertaining:rofl

I just love the forums
Title: Tracers
Post by: Cobra412 on November 11, 2003, 12:05:54 PM
Since Machine is retired military and has sat behind the stick of a plane at 300mph when the guns are firing I'm curious to what plane/jet you were in? And obviously you must have been a stick grip actuator so what unit were you with and whats your call sign?
Title: Tracers
Post by: 214thCavalier on November 11, 2003, 02:58:59 PM
And currently with Beta 3 they have been changed so you can all shut up and go play ;)
Title: Tracers
Post by: Rutilant on November 11, 2003, 03:15:10 PM
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Originally posted by Machine
Well, I'm retired military and I have!  And it doesn't look like that!

Sorry

;)


Why do i doubt this was a WW2 aircraft with WW2-era internal ordnance?