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Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Baddawg on February 23, 2001, 02:04:00 AM
Who else flys the 4 gun Pony no tracers?
It likes me I like it.
Wassamatter with me am I sick?
OK buff killin is a workout but man this bird is SWEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT.
Do I have placebo effect here?
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: senna on February 23, 2001, 02:27:00 AM
Well when I fly the pony I just take all six guns. Its a great bird and I engage whenever I can unless it's utterly suicide. The pony is really a great bird. I wonder why so few people fly it? I do hope we get a P-51B also.

-- senna
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Midnight on February 23, 2001, 04:48:00 AM
BadDawg...

I know of one other guy that flies with the 4x .50 option. But I think he uses the tracers.

It is Bane with the 13th TAS

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Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Wilbus on February 23, 2001, 05:09:00 AM
Don't fly P51 much or rather at all anymore since I really don't like Allied iron.
But the times I flew it I used 4 guns and it performs great with it, great roll and manuverability.

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Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Wanker on February 23, 2001, 08:32:00 AM
I'm not taking a 4 gun Pony out until we get one in Olive Drab livery, with a Malcom hood.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

For those of you who don't know what I'm referring to...P-51B!
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Vermillion on February 23, 2001, 08:35:00 AM
Baddawg, realize that I'm not the dedicated Pony driver I use to be (drive the Yak more now, but Pony second).

But I just haven't noticed that much performance increase from taking the 4 gun option, and I definitely notice the reduced firepower.

Just hasn't seemed worth it to me.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: CavemanJ on February 23, 2001, 11:06:00 AM
Love the 4gun pony.  Uber-sweet  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Verm the firepower isn't really that much different if ya saddle up and hit'em at convergence like ya s'pose to  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Mk10 225th on February 23, 2001, 11:10:00 AM
"Wassamatter with me am I sick?"

In a word:  Yes.

But seriously, we're just now starting to fly the Pony a little bit.  

In SDOE, a lot of people avoided it like the plague.  They were always stalling out at low speeds in the corners, and flopping to the ground.

I'm starting to feel like the '51 in AH is kind of the same...a great bird if you treat the stick like it's made of glass.

BD, would appreciate any further feedback if you really think you feel like you're gaining a performance advantage, whether it be just more speed, or a mix of speed and agility.

Good to hear from you.

Mk
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Soulyss on February 23, 2001, 05:53:00 PM
I love the 4 gun pony, though I use tracers.  Buff hunting is tough though  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Kieren on February 23, 2001, 05:58:00 PM
I don't know that I can tell a difference in handling a 4-gun 51 vs. a 6-gun 51. I may have to try it more, I guess. I do know that even losing one gun to damage seems to impact lethality.

I think the AH 51 handles quite nicely, even in the turns. I don't notice much of a tendency to spin, rather it just gets sluggish as you slow down.
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Spatula on February 24, 2001, 12:36:00 AM
2 less guns only will mean less weight. So it should give you a minor increase in roll, climb, acceleration, turn (becasue of lower wing-loading).

As the pony is not a good climber or turner, accelerator, i never let it get into situations where i have to rely on those qaulities (as they are its weaknesses), the minor advantage afforded by 2 less guns is not great enough to me to warrent the lesser fire-power.

But i will have to put up with it when we get Mr MkIII    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


[This message has been edited by Spatula (edited 02-24-2001).]
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: AKcurly on February 24, 2001, 03:32:00 AM
I fly with Baddawg (Dogftr) a lot, so I'm well qualified to comment.

You know how really small children place a blanket over their head and are convinced they're totally hidden?  That's Dogftr with no tracers!  He believes he's invisible with the tracers off.  Hell, he even shouts "BOO" over RW after a successful sneak.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

All of the AKs play along with him and shout back and forth "have you seen dogftr" even when he's right in the middle of us.  It seems to please him. lol

AKcurly
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: DRILL on February 24, 2001, 10:01:00 AM
HEHEH i need all 6 guns  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) need all the ammo i can get  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: iculus on February 24, 2001, 10:30:00 PM
P-47 has eight guns! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

jug jug jug jug.....

<S>IC
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: aknimitz on February 24, 2001, 10:45:00 PM
You know, when you said you used the 4-gun pony, I thought I outta try it out.  But, I cannot detect any significant improvement in the handling of the aircraft.  It is just a *pinch* faster.  

The main point to make here is this: with the 4 guns, you arent going to be able to outturn any planes you would with a 6-gun.  Maybe it rolls a bit better, or corners a bit better - but nothing that makes me wanna give up 2 guns.  

Plus, the ammo loadout is virtually identical, so you dont save any weight.  

What about the P-38 light 4 guns, now that is something that I think performs markedly better (1200 less 50cal rounds)!

Nimitz

Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Tac on February 24, 2001, 10:59:00 PM
No tracers is the best way to go.

Almost everyone in the MA looks back and sees a d500 plane manouvering on his 6 but not tracers, so they try to keep their speed up or extend.. and that means flying straight or without much jinking.... and if you got plenty ammo (P-38!) you can get some nice kills which basically put themselves on the silver platter.

Plus it helps when the other guy really didnt see you sneak below him and missed!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) His first indication of you will be *ping* *ping* *CRACK* *BEWM*
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Baddawg on February 25, 2001, 04:58:00 PM
Curly ,you mean you guys can actually see me? Son of ... do I ever feel stupid. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)

Ok back to the four gun pony, I guess its all palcebo effect but heck I guess im addicted to the placebo.

(I dont care if those little white pills are just sugar I need another one!)
Title: Am I the only one?
Post by: Spatula on February 25, 2001, 06:12:00 PM
Check the aircraft/vehicles board for a test i did on 4 versus 6 gun ponies.
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001643.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001643.html)