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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yeager on December 15, 2000, 10:34:00 AM
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This release is going to happen very soon.
Pyro mentioned earlier that the release would be well into the fall and winter happens to begin in 6 days plus there has been very little of Hitech online these past few weeks.
From recent experience I believe we will be testing err umm playing 1.05 on or before December 25 or within the next ten days for those of you in Rio Linde!
Yeager
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It would really be nice if it was today ( yeah, right) while I am still at work. Much nicer downloading on a T1 that a 56k dialup.
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Since this new version will have ships, has it been mentioned if the appropriate aircraft will have torpedos?
Paul
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Originally posted by Yeager:
From recent experience I believe we will be testing err umm playing 1.05 on or before December 25 or within the next ten days for those of you in Rio Linde!
Yeager
Mega Texaco Ditto's Yeager (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Udie
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I'm actually happy with 1.04. My first tour (the two week test period) I drove Panzers a lot because I found them to be much more interesting. I like to have a ground aspect and I wish there were hardcore tank corps still around. I only recently started flying fighters, and even that was frustrating because there isn't much help or teamwork for a newbie in the MA.
I've practiced a little, but since I started flying with hblair's Assassins my performence has increased dramatically. (last night, I bagged 3 straight in a 190, plus 2 assists - my best sortie ever) The changes to 1.05 will just screw me up more I think.. so, it's a double bladed sword. I'm still looking forward to it but I guess 1.04 is good for now.
(everyone is in the holiday spirit - demanding their 1.05 presants :-D Guess I'm the only one who doesn't want everything for xmas)
:-)
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You make a very good point about learning the game and such. The Main Arena can be pretty brutal.
I know last night, I was vulched more than I have ever been. I think I got frequent flyer miles going to heaven! I was playing with Rook and there was a 4 hour battle at A5 that just kept going back and forth. And dummy me kept trying like hell to roll a fighter out of there, even though 8 or more Knights were circling for cheap kills (hey, if the show were on the other foot, Id be doing the same, yelling for more ammo!)
I'm pretty suprised that there isnt another arena dedicated to more tank missions. I've played the Scenarios and although they weren't bad overall, once you are dead, you are out for the game.
I've talked a lot of my friends into trying Aces High for the 2 week trial. Many have liked it, but due to the cost, passed on playing it more. Or, how difficult it was to get the hang of the airplane (biggest complain is the utter lack of speed in airplanes like the P-51, which most of my friends adore).
Hope you stay with it, I've been at it a year and finally have the hang of a few of the airplanes in here. Some I still can't pry any speed from (like the P51) but we're learning more everyday.
Paul
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Lack of speed in the Pony? You are kidding right? The AH Pony is fast. It's realistically fast. It also handles best at high speeds.
There are folks flying this game that know the what the real P51 was capable of. Trust me, if it was even 5 mph slower than it should be, you would not be able to read this board without hearing about it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) AH has to have one of the most accurate flight models for the P-51 available anywhere.
Remember, speed does not mean accelleration. The pony is fast, not quick. It does not accellerate particularly well. However, if you fly it properly and keep it above 250 Mph at all times, it can be almost untouchable.
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"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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P51 not fast??? I fly with 13th TAS and fly the 51 98% of the time.. believe me there is nothing in the arena the 51 can't outrun if flown right. As lephturn says.. the 51 is fast not quick.. so it does take a couple seconds to get your steam built up, but I usually find myslf tryin to slow down more than speed up since I'm usually screamin around at 400+ mph IAS (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Bane
13th TAS
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308'th ran into 4 bish ponys at high alt last night <thurs 14th> smart ones too. Trust me they are plenty fast.
btw <S> whoever it was, fun sortie that was.
[This message has been edited by rosco- (edited 12-15-2000).]
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I wonder if LePaul meant 'acceleration' of the P-51? In either case the AH P-51 is pretty spot on in regards to both as it accelerated pretty bad unless the nose was pointed styraight down.
-Westy
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What I like about the 51 is the speed, but it's frustrating how some fighters always seem to be able to catch me while I'm extending. Pesky La5s or Yaks somehow. I think I'll stick with the LW stuff for now, get used to it, and try the USAAC stuff in a couple of weeks.
Every once in a while, I get really ticked and that's when I'm in a chog :-) Think I had a streak of like 4 in that beast, but I didnt think it was fair to brag about..
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you newbies, keep your planes trimmed and turn up the wind noise under your sound option, helps me keep a perspective on my E.
Also fly a lanc around awhile and everything will seem fast (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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They run away from a fight very efficiently.
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The best fun is when a P-51 tries to run from a coalt Typhoon under 10k. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-- Todd/DMF
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
The best fun is when a P-51 tries to run from a coalt Typhoon under 10k. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-- Todd/DMF
RUN FROM A COALT TIFFIE??
+Dead, what??? You on crack?? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Mustang's eat Tiffy's for lunch when co-alt (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-Ding
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Originally posted by Dingy:
RUN FROM A COALT TIFFIE??
+Dead, what??? You on crack?? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Mustang's eat Tiffy's for lunch when co-alt (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-Ding
Above 10k... yes. Below 10k... yum! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Typhoon'll outaccelerate, outrun, and outturn a 51 for sure at 8k or below. Keep in mind, this is coalt/cospeed. A fast 51 inning against a slow Typhoon coalt surely has the advantage.
-- Todd/DMF
P.S. NEVER underestimate how well the Typhoon turns. Doing so is sure death. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Dead Man Flying (edited 12-15-2000).]
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Phew, insult the P-51 and ye shall receive its wrath!
Acceleration is what I meant. Myself and another player both took off in P51s a few days back. We'd lost radar so we were going to get high and watch for cons until radar returned. We *slowly* climbed to 25k and leveled. And waited and waited and waited for the P-51 to accelerate. I never saw anything faster than 250 even after ditching the drop tanks and waiting some more.
I've really taken a liking to the Spit 9, with its great speed, handling and visibility yet it carries very little ammo. The 109G10 is nice too, but the cockpit views are not nearly as nice. That's why Im hoping to work the irks out of the pony so bad. Great amount of ammo and if i could only get the thing to hit this magical 400+ mph speed I've read about...
Thanks!
P.S. So, no torpedos in 1.05?
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Originally posted by rosco-:
308'th ran into 4 bish ponys at high alt last night <thurs 14th> smart ones too. Trust me they are plenty fast.
btw <S> whoever it was, fun sortie that was.
That was us rosco-. 13th TAS. It sure was fun, and you all did a great job trying to defend. Nice formation in those LANCs too. <SALUTE>
The funny part is we were just about to rtb after having been flying for over 1/2 hour without seeing anything to kill.
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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"
Midnight
13th TAS
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Pony is almost untouchable once it has speed. But low and slow.. like last night.. forget it. Best bet is to climb out and keep your eye on the G meter during combat.. below 2 g's and it'll rock !
I saw the stuff going on at A5 LePaul (short for Les Paul?) and I figured you'd grab a tiffie, n1k or spit.. anything that can accelerate when being bounced.
:)
Welcome to AH
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Midnight - was there 3 of you ?
One of you collided with a yak ?
Just wandering who was the bastard who flew into me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
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315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
[BTyphoon'll outaccelerate, outrun, and outturn a 51 for sure at 8k or below. Keep in mind, this is coalt/cospeed.[This message has been edited by Dead Man Flying (edited 12-15-2000).][/B]
Outaccellerate?
Maybe.
Outrun?
No way...maybe if pony has no WEP left or has much more fuel than Stang. May take a sector or two to catch but believe me...you WILL be caught. Just ask Wardog or Bash who also fly the Tiffy extensively...as Wardog has said..."the only plane which I really fear is the P-51". And for good reason.
Outturn? Again, no way...presuming we are talking about a regular turn fight without significant difference in weight the Pony turns just as well with one notch of flaps(if not better) than the Tiff.
Now what I might add here is that it could very well OUTMANEUVER the stang since it does seem to roll a bit better at low speeds than the stang does. The biggest problem I have run into in the Stang is a low-speed scissor engagement. Pony's roll at low speed is nothing to marvel at.
I have fought many pilots MUCH better than me who were flying Tiffs while I was in a Stang and 90% of the time when we start co-E (or even while I was at an E disadvantage) they either have to try and disengage (at which I run them down and keel them) or they try to turn with me and soon find they are losing angles quickly ( at which time they try to extend, get run down and die (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)).
-Ding
[This message has been edited by Dingy (edited 12-15-2000).]
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stop stealing his posts (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
he said torpedo's????????????????
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by hazed-:
stop stealing his posts (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
he said torpedo's????????????????
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Leave it to Hazed to always divert the fun posts back on topic! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Yes, it is my GUESS that they will have torpedos since:
1) The TBFs main armament was a single torpedo
2) The PT boats had torpedo launchers on the port and starboard railings
3) When I asked Pyro about the lack of torpedos on the PT boats in the screenshots, he said Nate hasnt finished the modeling for them yet.
Satisfied??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Ding
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Ah! 12 posts later I get an answer! hehe
A5 was brutal last night, I was going to get a G10 or something, but I can seriously fly the Spit9 a lot better. Since my main adversaries were low P51s and F4s, I needed some that could outturn them. Im sure there are better ones, but I like the feel and handling of the Spit. Perhaps I would have been better served in another aircraft....but I sure racked up a lot of skydiving time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Paul
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Originally posted by Dingy:
Outaccellerate?
Maybe.
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Absolutely. Above about 250mph, the Typhoon outaccelerates anything under 8k... including 109s or Yaks. Where it falters is at speeds below that, and if it gets too slow, chances are it'll never get enough headway to outrun either of those planes.
Outrun?
No way...maybe if pony has no WEP left or has much more fuel than Stang. May take a sector or two to catch but believe me...you WILL be caught. Just ask Wardog or Bash who also fly the Tiffy extensively...as Wardog has said..."the only plane which I really fear is the P-51". And for good reason.
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No way. The only way that 51... coalt and co-E, mind you, is going to catch the Typhoon is if the Typhoon bleeds off too much speed in turns and gets below its magical acceleration number. The Typhoon bleeds an incredible amount of speed in turns. If the 51 can force some turns and get the Typhoon under 200mph, it's another ballgame. Though I don't know for sure, it also seems that the 51 zoom climbs better.
Outturn? Again, no way...presuming we are talking about a regular turn fight without significant difference in weight the Pony turns just as well with one notch of flaps(if not better) than the Tiff.
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I think you'd be surprised just how well the Typhoon really CAN turn. Its instantaneous turnrate is especially nice... it reminds me of the 38 from AW in this respect. It'll go a couple of turns with the Spit IX before having to bug out.
Now what I might add here is that it could very well OUTMANEUVER the stang since it does seem to roll a bit better at low speeds than the stang does. The biggest problem I have run into in the Stang is a low-speed scissor engagement. Pony's roll at low speed is nothing to marvel at.
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And the Typhoon's turnrate at slow speed is nothing to marvel about. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) It'll really wallow under 200mph, and if you get under 160mph, forget about it. This is a plane that's truly happiest above 220-240mph. A slow speed 51 to Typhoon engagement must be a really sad thing to watch. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I'd love to hook up for some 51 to Typhoon fights sometime just for practice... nothing about bragging rights here or showing whose plane is better. More like some friendly duels to explicitly learn the strengths and weaknesses of both planes.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-- Todd/DMF
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LePaul.
If you simply HAVE to come up a vulched base take SpitV. Its Much better at low alt base defense than a Spit9. Its not as fast but it accelerates almost as fast. It turns inside and rolls better than a 9. Also if your really getting vulched take 25% fuel....
LLB OUT!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
I'd love to hook up for some 51 to Typhoon fights sometime just for practice... nothing about bragging rights here or showing whose plane is better. More like some friendly duels to explicitly learn the strengths and weaknesses of both planes.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-- Todd/DMF
Kinda like what we did for the spit and Nik? Love to +Dead (that was his old AW handle and thats what I call Todd here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)). No worries about braggin rights...never even thought about it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) Would love to!
-Ding
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Hey +Dead, soon as I get my Vader I'd be up for some friendly duels to find the strength and weaknesses of the two (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
- Jig
Er wait a minute, was that during or after we use to do the 38 tango all the time?
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Sweet Jesus LePaul, level and trimmed it does 375, in dive you have a hell'uve time keeping it at 400mph! It hits 550 so fast it makes your head swim then hasta la bye bye to the wings!
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Count me in! DMF in a typhie would be damn near impossible to kill.. it's like tryin to get laid. 9 outta 10 times I get smacked in the face; but that ONE time I don't is worth the other 9 squeak slaps any ol day. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
Count me in! DMF in a typhie would be damn near impossible to kill.. it's like tryin to get laid. 9 outta 10 times I get smacked in the face; but that ONE time I don't is worth the other 9 squeak slaps any ol day. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
Well Im not so confident any more. After the squeak slappin Nash gave me in his F4 when I was in the 51, I dont feel quite the same. Think I might move to a zeke, spit or B26...at least I have a chance in em (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Nah....I think I'll keep ole Bessy!
-Ding
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
Count me in! DMF in a typhie would be damn near impossible to kill.. it's like tryin to get laid. 9 outta 10 times I get smacked in the face; but that ONE time I don't is worth the other 9 squeak slaps any ol day. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
Now that I think about it...DMF in ANYTHING is damn near impossible to kill. Hes on an elite tier of Aces High...he sits atop the Monkey Skyscraper, swinging in his monkey hammock, chowing on his Mo'Naners while the rest of us claw and scrape just to get a foothold (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Im down on street level grinding my organ (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)! LOL!
<famous air warrior reference>
-Ding