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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: VooWho on July 12, 2006, 04:37:07 PM
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(http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoiait/P108_in_volo_3.JPG)
Crew:6
Powerplane: Four 1007kW (1350hp) Piaggio P.XII RC35 18-cylinder radial engines
Performance: Max speed 420km/h (261mph); Range 3520km (2190miles); service ceiling 8050m (26,410ft)
Dimensions: Wingspan 32.00m (105ft); Lenght 22.92m (75ft 2in); Height 5.18m (17ft)
Weight: 29,885kg (65,970Ib) loaded
Armament: Eight 12.7mm (0.50in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns: up to 3500kg (7700Ib) of bombs or three torpedoes.
"The Piaggio P.108 was used to attack Gibraltar on several occasions. Bruno Mussolini, son of Italian dictator, lost his life while flying one". The P.108 came to the war kinda late for Italy. For the last year of war for Italy the P.108 was used alot in the Mediterranean, and other missions.
(http://airwar.ru/image/i/bww2/p108-i.jpg)
Would make a good Italian bomber for later Italian Campaigns. Or the SM.79 Sparviero.
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I'd rather see the SM.79 Sparviero. :)
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The Sparviero would be nice, but I think the P.108 would give the Italians a good heavy bomber.
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VooWho,
Yes, it would give italians a heavy bomber but obviously it would get very little use in the MA. AH isn't all about MA but considering the relatively little service 108 had there are far more important bombers that should be atted before it considering both Ma and SEA needs.
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Will I know that, im just saying when we get around to Italian Campaigns, or remodeling Italian aircraft. I know no one will fly it in the MA. But I don't play online so what do I know. All I know is H2H is the bomb. Everyplane gets a chance.
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I realise this is an old thread but instead of making my own I am just adding to this one. Maybe its time to add it. I would use it as would other I think.
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I realise this is an old thread but instead of making my own I am just adding to this one. Maybe its time to add it. I would use it as would other I think.
+1
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One thing that really sucks about this bird, is fact its defensive guns only carried 300 rounds a piece, for 25 seconds continuous fire. In comparison American buffs often carried 500rpg plus extra.
You'd have to have short bursts of very accurate aim :)
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One thing that really sucks about this bird, is fact its defensive guns only carried 300 rounds a piece, for 25 seconds continuous fire. In comparison American buffs often carried 500rpg plus extra.
You'd have to have short bursts of very accurate aim :)
Did every B-17/B-24 fire every round they carried when on a mission?
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Did every B-17/B-24 fire every round they carried when on a mission?
probably............there gunners were not as good as some of us in the game we can lazer beam percision like 999 or we could have the gunnery of a 2 week player..... the 2 week player was porbably that of the ww2 gunners back then
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Did every B-17/B-24 fire every round they carried when on a mission?
Have they tried flying in Aces High during peak hours?
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Did every B-17/B-24 fire every round they carried when on a mission?
many gunners would load extra ammo. the ammo loads we get might be "accurate" but many crews overloaded the bombers with as much ammo as they could get away with.
shdo
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Have they tried flying in Aces High below 15K and in a battle zone?
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I do have a few new photos I have found since the last wish for this aircraft?
Don't feel like posting them right now though. :headscratch:
One of the cockpit maybe?
This might be the transport version not really sure.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/P108cockpitf.jpg)
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Sure is a nice looking bird
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/italy/aircraft/bomber/piaggio-p-108-bomber/piaggio-p-108-c-b-bomber-01.png)
(http://stormomagazine.com/ModelArticles/P108/PeterIbes/Piaggio01.jpg)
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If an Italian bomber is to be added, it will and should be the S.79.
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If an Italian bomber is to be added, it will and should be the S.79.
You know what never mind doesn't look like many were built. And while it would be good to have in the Mediterranean scenarios and FSO's or even MA as a change of pace from Lanc 17's or 24's I dont think it saw enough service.
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It looks like an Italian B17
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It looks like an Italian B17
Kinda yeah sleeker but reminiscent.
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You know what never mind doesn't look like many were built.
It saw combat action, it wasn't a complete failure - there is nothing absolutely "extordinary" about this aircraft.
It may not of seen total squadron strength or flew hundreds of missions, but I see no reason it cant be added.
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It saw combat action, it wasn't a complete failure - there is nothing absolutely "extordinary" about this aircraft.
It may not of seen total squadron strength or flew hundreds of missions, but I see no reason it cant be added.
Yeha that dont mean I dont WANT it added Id fly the hell out of it but we NEED othe rplanes added at this point. Like I said would be nice from MTO scenerios and FSO's and just for a change of pace heavy bomber in the MA and the skinners can have some fun with this one.
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plus if it were added i would up the Italian Plane count to three
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Yeha that dont mean I dont WANT it added Id fly the hell out of it but we NEED othe rplanes added at this point. Like I said would be nice from MTO scenerios and FSO's and just for a change of pace heavy bomber in the MA and the skinners can have some fun with this one.
Well Honestly if it comes down to it, most likely the SM.79 would be a wiser choice to add, it served in MTO with some 1,300 being built - its more of a medium bomber but served quite well in the MTO. Slightly better defensive armaments vs a Ju-88, carries a torpedo or bombs.
And whats really cool? Tri-motor :)
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Well Honestly if it comes down to it, most likely the SM.79 would be a wiser choice to add, it served in MTO with some 1,300 being built - its more of a medium bomber but served quite well in the MTO. Slightly better defensive armaments vs a Ju-88, carries a torpedo or bombs.
And whats really cool? Tri-motor :)
Yeah I was thnking that. But I found the 108 to see if the axis had any heavy bomber that saw good use.
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Yeah I was thnking that. But I found the 108 to see if the axis had any heavy bomber that saw good use.
Well consider this - 108 would be a good Main Arena bomber - but for scenarios, snapshots, Fso's the 108 wouldn't be used..... maybe one flight per Frame thats if its MTO early in the war.
SM.79 would be flown across the entire MTO, early, mid and late war.
SM.79 might suffer in the LWarenas, only because its nothing more then a Medium bomber that can sling a torpedo.. I'd give up flying B-24s for it, just looks really cool.
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It saw combat action, it wasn't a complete failure - there is nothing absolutely "extordinary" about this aircraft.
It may not of seen total squadron strength or flew hundreds of missions, but I see no reason it cant be added.
They flew squadron strength no more than 20-30 total flew combat. The Italians just could not afford a four engined bomber. The Germans took all the cargo versions after Italy broke away & sent them to the Eastern front.
The Germans liked the cargo version a great deal.
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I would really like this plane to be added, definitely. :x However, it will probably get added around the time they decide to add the TBD Devastator. :(
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+1 :O
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I would really like this plane to be added, definitely. :x However, it will probably get added around the time they decide to add the TBD Devastator. :(
Its Hitech trolling you - "Here's some photos of the new bird" What gets released? TBD.... or New C-47 LOL
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Its Hitech trolling you - "Here's some photos of the new bird" What gets released? TBD.... or New C-47 LOL
:lol
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If people have trouble shooting this thing down while it's doing a torpedo run, then we may have success in dividing by zero. :)
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This baby is nice! I think it would get used quite a bit even in the tough world if the MA!
+1
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I like the Plane, but I'd never Fly it.. +0- I'm neutral..
Aside from the issue of effort better expended to give AH some REALLY important stuff.. Instead of
another motorized target, that will be a fetish plane for a little while, and then just gather hanger dust!
I would fly the SM79 tho, Gratzi!
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YES!!!!! JUST YES ! :D :D :D
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I've flown the SM79 in another sim and only fly it with a rolling planeset.
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Closer look at the gun turrets on the wings.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Piaggio%20p108/img165_zpsa148b763.jpg)
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Piaggio%20p108/img166_zps03825b96.jpg)
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Feel like something heavy in Italian. :aok
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Piaggio%20p108/p1082kz_zpsxbykwfu9.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Piaggio%20p108/p1082kz_zpsxbykwfu9.jpg.html)
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:x
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I wonder what the odds of the ammo cooking off in the advent of an engine fire would be?