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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on July 15, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
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I responded to a post by Guppy35 in another thread where he stated:
Originally posted by Guppy35
And the nature of any of the Flight Sims has been a constant change in people. There are very few of us who have been around for the long haul.
I wonder how many guys are left from the early days of this board or AH overall. I doubt it's a very large percentage of the player base.
My guess is at least half the player base are what I'll refer to as "long-timers". This is nothing against Guppy35 in any way but it made me curious. How many ARE "long-timers".
Since Tour 12 ended 1/31/01 then tour 1 must have ended on 2/28/00. Since the first tours were beta and other sim's were still alive then lets use tour 12 as the beginning so the question is, how many have played flight sims since 1/1/01 or earlier.
Please post only once so we get a good count. Include your starting date as closely as you remember it, the sim you started in, and your guess as to the percent of long-time players in AHII.
I started in '96 in Air Warrior and my guess at long-timers is half the player base.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
and my guess at long-timers is half the player base.
If we use your definition of long-timer, I guess it's waaaaay less. Almost impossible to tell number, but if I would be forced I would say... not more than 10% ?
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I first started playing flight sims in AW3 back in 98, but then didn't play again until 2005, played about 6 months then took another break and came back in 2006. So I'm not a long time player but started in 98.
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<-----noob
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Mig Alley Ace on Commadore64
lol...1986
First Multiplayer online game was Red Baron 3D in 1997.
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From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
Badboy58
Icer
CHECKERS
Crapgame
DipStick
Drex
Edbert
Grits
Howitzer
Jigsaw
Kwan
lazs
Leviathn
nopoop
Ouch
Pirate
Recon7
Redd
rickt
Wadke
Morpheus
and there are more ... these are just on the current squad roster.
Some make an appearence here and there, but for the most part ... they just don't fly anymore.
I have been around since early '02.
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Started in 92 RedBaron I DOS. Been here over 5 years, took a 6 month vacation for reasons stated elsewhere.
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Started in Fighter Ace in 99....Moved to AH tour 12. Flew under a different ID then...RedTop now.
I took about a year off in there.
So total I would say I been here since tour 12 plus a year i fighter ace. Total of about 8 years or so.
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Wow, Slap, I did'nt even know half those guys were BK's!!!
I remember flyin' with and against them, though.
At least since AH 1, When I was Frode22.(A noob, LOL)
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I started in Air Warrior, *before* it was called Classic. The original Air Warrior. To be honest, I took a break for a while and have been back steady for over 4 years. Make it about 11 years with a short break.
Regarding Air Warrior in the old days...accessed it through AOL.....$3.00 an hour to play in those days... I got a job working online as an instructor in the AOL Academic Community...they paid us in hours...... it was the only way to serve the disease. :)
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Been flying since 1999 ( Air Warrior )
Started AH with tour 21.
No breaks longer than 1 month, and those are due to work.
I still suck at fighters.
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I've been playing since 1991-92. I tried AH as soon as it came out but did not get into it full-bore until AW was executed by EA. To my knowledge I am one of only about a dozen remaining regulars from the very early AW days. Most Bish weren't even born when I began kicking bellybutton in the virtual skies...God I feel old..:confused:
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First online sim for me was Red Baron II in 1996 or 1997? Then followed RB3D, EAW, AH, IL-2, AH2.
My callsign has remained the same, even though in the beginning (in RB2 and RB3D) I flew in JG2 squadron.
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Started jan 2000; then players were enjoying a "simulation".
Now all they want is a "game";
That's the reason why I fly lesser.
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wow, I'm a newb next to these guys. :aok
Tour 63 here.
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Im a newb. Tour 69 here.
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Tour 11 here, at least that's the first one I can find an earlier ID of mine on.
But I'm a die hard. I'm still betting the majority don't go back that far.
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AOL Fighter Ops 1998 Stevex then Warbirds Fighter Ops. Came here late 2002 TOUR 34 .......Warlox, Lox then Lynx. X factor :D
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tour 30 for me, has it been 5 years?...still not old timer by any means, just was surprised when I checked.
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I tried my hand at Red Baron when it was a DOS game, 1st try of AW was in I think 93, I could not afford it due to being maried, having 2 very young daughters, and 1 income......came back to AW in 94, came back to AW fulltime in 95..and stayed.......then 1999 I infrequently played around with Aces High...think me along with most of the Damned came in or near end of 2000/early2001......( although NB, Lonz and a few other Damned prob alphaed long before that )
during the AW3 & AW3 millienium version I was also in Fighter Ace, Warbirds.......most of the "longtimers" before me could prob say they have tried every sim ever to be multiplay online.....
others I have played are targetware TK/TR (am still CO of our squad there), Jane's multitude of different game genres, wwiionline, IL2, crimson skys.............etc.......
I remember first time I saw Tiff flying, and was thinking I was flying around with a girl, until he informed me otherwise, it was in one of the relaxed realism arenas...... remeber calling CH Products because one of my sticks was acting up, and was 1st time I meet Ack-Ack ( well met over the phone ), think that was late 95/early 96.......
seen alot come and go, also have seen alot of our friends get their heavenly wings...... 1 thing about the WW1/WW2 online gaming communitys is the closeness and the bonding..to me it is far more than anything you would find in most other multyplayer online games.......
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Since 96 in AW. Then came AH in 2001, then went to WW2OL, then back to AH, then back to WW2OL, then finally stayed here about 3 years ago.
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started out in the aw days using handle OUTLAW changed name to MOTBD and was flying when they pulled the plug on it. Squad "THE MOTLEY ACES" scattered and a few months later most of us ended up here at htc.
been off and on since then.
Great part is most of old squadies r still flying and most r in "DAMAGE INC."
and the rest scattered in various other squads.
TO YOU OLE MOTLEY ACES
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Been around since 6/02
Oz
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Played AW 2 on gamestorm back in 98.Played warbirds for a very short bit.Then came to AH.That was late in 2000 sometime.Had the same name through all the sims.
Pipz
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Started playing AH in late 2000 until ah2 came out. That upgrade "forced" me away until october 2006.
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been here since ah beta
warbirds before AH came along.
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12/2000
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AW offline for 3 months till CFS1 came out in Nov , 1998 .
Then in mid 1999 went to FA 2.5 when that version came out .
Then came here in March 2000 .
Quit a few times , have been back for 2 years now .
This is home , might not be all that I could want but it's home none the less . Nothing else feels right now :O
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Started as MeatWad in tour 27. (April 2002)
In the 30's tours till last year I flew off and on as Mtwd81st
From 06 till current I am once again Meatwad :)
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Started on AW on AOL as =TT= soon as it came out ('96?), moved to WB for a short time then came here for AH1 beta in late '99.
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My first hop in Air Warrior was some time around 96. I stayed until EA trashed it. I flew AH for a month or two, then took a break for a while. Real life has required a few breaks, and I do not fly as much as I once did. And Guppy35 is right, it has changed a great deal, and many of those changes are some part of why I don't fly as much as I used to. I once flew as much as 3-5 hours a night, lately I often don't fly 3-5 hours a month. There are still times when I really love it, but they are not as common as they used to be.
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Warbirds 2 for me back in 99. Found and joined Aces High in Beta Tour 2 i think.
I used to play a game on the commodore 64 back in '85ish called "Twin Tornado" - a game where you could link two C64s together with a serial cable and fight each other. But that was the days before the public internet and hardly anyone had PCs, so finding someone to fly against who had a C64 and could bring his machine around to my place to link up, was pretty hard to find!
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<---Been around awhile :aok
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AH Tour 26 - 3/2002
Air Warrior on AOL circa 12/1994 to 1-2/1995. I'm a little fuzzy on when I joined then but do know I was at the tender age of 11...Squeak! :)
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I can find my ID back in tour 23 (end of 2001) but know I played AH before AW actually died but can't remember the ID I was using. Some people I knew were already making the full time transition here from AW back in Beta tours...I was much more stubborn :rolleyes:
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started flying online on Imagination network flying RedBaron, which
could do up to 4 vs 4.
then moved to AW 1 when it started on AOL. Fly AW 1 2 3 and millienium , cancled AOL AW they day it went to pay by hour.
Came that day to AH version 1.03, been here ever since.
AHRiddler on redbaron, Whels on AW and AH
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flew AW3 in its later days 99 and then moved to aces high for 1 tour but i dont even remember my sn boy i sucked :P left ah2 untill 05 came back played a few months left went back in o6 played the whole year and took a big break until earlie june 07 and now i just left again :P
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Been trying to fly for atleast 2 weeks now.........:aok
still cant fly yet!!
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Started in AW Classic in 96 till right before it died out. Found AH in May 03, tour 40.
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Hondo... I am in love w/ your avitar...
I started about when you did AW... On Delpi... per hour....
My credit card got hammered....
The 81st moved here just before EA kilt it...
THis game rocks....
I would pay more..
Gatr
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I started in AW on aol, my squadron was Purple Hearts and my cpid at the time was Wargd.
Took a couple years off as I went to college, grew up etc, then came back here in 05 for about a year under handle TripleA... didnt take the time to figure how to keep my handle after my break, so now it's TripleAA
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Started in AW in 96 as MDJOE, switched to AH on tour 21, switched to "The Fugitive" on tour 67.
Only problem with a poll like this is less than 5% of the community visits the boards. :(
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I started in Air Warrior, *before* it was called Classic.
Same here.... 1st started on Delpi sometime around 94/95 I thank. Don't fly alot in the those days, Army pay & pay-by-the-hour did not work out very well. Follow AW to AOL, Gamestorm and till the end on EA.
Started AH back during the free Beta.....
Did time in WB, WW2OL & FA2 along the way.
Cavalry
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Originally posted by whels
started flying online on Imagination network flying RedBaron, which
could do up to 4 vs 4.
then moved to AW 1 when it started on AOL. Fly AW 1 2 3 and millienium , cancled AOL AW they day it went to pay by hour.
Came that day to AH version 1.03, been here ever since.
AHRiddler on redbaron, Whels on AW and AH
I was AH6Gun, my brother was AHJax.... lotta fun the AH squad was! I sure miss that crazy gang! I remember battling many Pigstompers and AKs!
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I was one of the SVGA dweebs. I started AW at the release of SVGA Air Warrior, I forget when that was, late '92 or early '93? First AH tour was 48.
Old timers are much less than 10%.
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My first sim was in commodore 64, F4 (fandom).
Next in history was Amiga 500 the legend.
Aces of the Sky (wwi), their finest hour, battle of britain, red baron, F-15,
and many other sims. ( Amiga was my golden era of sims ).
And then i met AW. Online dogfights with other crazies like me ?
Human vs Human ? I could not believe it.
It was 1993 in a greek bbs (compulink.gr) with amiga 500 and mouse.
AW was 1 diskette and just solid frames, no skins.
40 players @ saturdays.
Mountains was just triangles.
Game play was amazing even then.
Modem was a big aluminum brick @ 1200 bauds. But 1200 was more than enough, then :)
Then AW dos in pc and awii until 1997.
I was the last who was flying in this bbs for 1-2 months waiting someone
to come.
Then i met AH @ march 2002. Tour 26, id Hades55.
Hades55 HadesEE HaDeSs
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<--- Tour 82 :p
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You are all a buncha noobs..... :D
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Joined GEnie mid 94...tried AW, but really got hooked on Mechwarrior. Finally got serious in AW late 95, and played until 2000-2001ish (when did AW die?? ), then made the move to AH. Have been here ever since.:aok
If this goes back to when you actually started flight sims, then it would be MS Flight Simulator on an Apple IIe :)
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Originally posted by 1Duke1
Joined GEnie mid 94...tried AW, but really got hooked on Mechwarrior. Finally got serious in AW late 95, and played until 2000-2001ish (when did AW die?? ), then made the move to AH. Have been here ever since.:aok
If this goes back to when you actually started flight sims, then it would be MS Flight Simulator on an Apple IIe :)
LOL same flight sim on an Apple II+
The dogfight game was nothing but headons. There was no way to get on the guys tail :)
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I started on The Red Baron at the arcade. Does that count?
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I guess I'm a newb too. summer of 2005
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I started playing Air Warrior in 1988 and started playing Aces High in 2001.
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Originally posted by 1Duke1
(when did AW die?? )
them EA SOB's ironically (or maybe for spite) turned the lights out on AW on December 7th, 2001
the date in which they chose to turn out the lights on AW, speaks volumes
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Started playing WB's offline sometime in '98, and after about a 1000 hour of offline play signed up for online play in late '99 or early 2000.
Flew as "Elvene" at first, but changed to "-Ghost" after about a year or so - everyone seemed to assume that "Elvene" was "Evelyn" and guys would apologize for shooting me down.
And then when "Eleven" started flying even I was getting confused. I'd see a kill message in the buffer and think "Wait - I never even heard a ping!"
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AH since tour 18. (2001/07)
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Air warror 3 BEFOR AOL charged by the hour, then on gamestorm when aol got rid of it. played for about 2 years.
after about 8 year break being into first person shooters and stratagy, im back in Aces high 2 been here for 7 tours
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July 2000 for me.
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<----noob
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Started AH back in early Beta, missed the first month of pay for play. But then moved the squad over from WB. Took a little break last year this time but my account never got canceled.
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Originally posted by Slash27
I started on The Red Baron at the arcade. Does that count?
:lol Did that one too.
Started Red Baron on the old Sierra Network in 1992, in about two months I moved from that to Air Warrior DOS. Took a break from 94-97 because I had moved and didnt have internet access. In 1997 I joined Warbirds, stayed there until 2001 when I joined AH.
If I had as much skill as I do experiance, I'd be a dangerous man. :D
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Back in the early 90's cram was the hubby's ID for the 1.99 an hour game on AOL and I was the wife ack who said things like:
Just die you can up another plane ...
Just park the tank somewhere and get this garbage out ...
Oh and the best ...
HERE I'LL TRY TO LAND IT WHILE YOU CARRY THIS LAUNDRY DOWN FOR ME!!
That is the best because after I crashed his perk plane with kills ... LOL I up'd a tank somehow at TT got a kill and was hooked!!
So after buying another setup and upgrading to what was needed for the EA games merge, here we are figting over who can auto climb to get those chores done! I usually win by the way.
How ironic ...
In the 90's I said what a waste of time and energy
and now
I plan it in my schedule to be on a few hours almost every night!
I also love the BBS and have had one of the best times getting together with and pm'ing other players.
Funny conversations these years have made ....
Been out to dinner with Nghtmare (who was cram back in the AW day) saying things like ... did you see when I landed 19 in the pnzr ... I was camping the vehicle hanger and they were all LTARS!! Was a proud moment for me way back then and the people around us just looked at us wierd.
SGY
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started on sub-logic flight sim 1:huh
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only been playing sims online since about november 2003, AH1.
started on microsoft FS3.1 and TFX back in about 1995 or so, just never got online till AH1.
sometimes i feel like a long term player, others i feel like a newb still, i think thats what makes the game fun for me.
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I started in AW on AOHell in feb of 1996 and stayed with AW until it's demise on Gamestorm at the hands of Electronic Farts (still will not buy any game from EA), and then migrated here immediately after EA closed the doors on AW. I've been here ever since. I was DOC1 in AW and awDoc1 here.
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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I have been here since A/H beta.
Played warbirds from the fall of 1995, until Aces High came along.
Frodo
W/B- frdo
A/H- Frodo
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I started one of the first days of AH beta.
Had flown EAW online for about a year before that.
Callsign was always Snefens (or LLv34_Snefens)
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'98. Warbirds. Started playing that at the old gaming shop The Other Side (TOS). The next year I started at home just before The New Guinn Campaine. When Hi Tech opened Aces Hight to Beta, I signed up then.
Been around on and off since.
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AW2 & 3 (June 97 til EA turned out the lights on 7/12/01). Been here ever since, with a couple of breaks. CPID's been "asw" all the way through.
asw
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WB from 1.9x
AH from the time the p-38 was introduced. Whenever that was.
Hey Frodo! :)
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1996 AW4W then thru AW2, AW3, AWME joining AH Tour 14 in 2001
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Id have to say the majority of the player base, is not well represented by the majority of BBS users. And I sure hope I'm right because gameplay has definately decreased and I was all to happy to assume it was because of our new "airquake" player base.
FTR- I started in AW in 1997-98 and stayed until it was completely shut down, then came to AH with the rest of the AW hold-outs. Here ever since, aside from taking about a year off the last time I got disgusted with gameplay- Sure hope we get some new maps soon-
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I'm not Old ... (Insert mid life crisis here)
:noid
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first flew AH in late 01-early 02 registured in october 02
Flew Mac flight sim 97untill I discoved AH
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I played online with ...
the AOL Warbirds thing, then went to Warbirds & Warbirds 3 from 1998? until 2001.
Flew AH tours 31, 32, and 33 in 2002
Flew AH tours 40, 41, and 42 in 2003
rejoined AH in May 2007 tour 88
Prior to that I played every box WW II game I could get my hands on. I think my first plane game was F-15 for the Apple IIc.
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Started in Air Warrior on AOL in 97 shortly after returning from 5 years in Germany. Joined =GHOSTS= in September of that year. Held on to almost the bitter end of AW before moving to AH with some of the squad in 2001. I and the =GHOSTS= who moved over joined the Nazgul while we got our bearings (
to those guys for accepting us even though they knew up front we'd eventually re-form). Went to Korea for a year ('03 - '04) and didn't get to play :cry but have been at it ever since I got back.
Flying with the 4thFG now. Some of those guys have been at it much longer than I have!
Regards,
Hammer
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I started in '96 in Air Warrior
Me, too. October, 1996. Came to AH when AW died 12/7/2001.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Me, too. October, 1996. Came to AH when AW died 12/7/2001.
- oldman
I started in June and jumped ship over here in Nov '01, missing the last camp in AWIII.
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I started with AW when it was free on AOL ('95, or '96). First squad was The Fighting 56th, Cyclops was the co. Stayed with AW until EA killed it.
Moved to AH with my then squad 444th Air Mafia, MDJOE was co at that time. My first tour in AH was 23 have had an active account here ever since even if I don't always find the time to fly.
I have had the same id throughout.
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Fighter Ace when it came out of beta and went pay (must have been 1996), little Warbirds, then AH since open beta (minus about a year).
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I started in 1992 I think AW on genie?? but it was either 6 or 12/hr so it didnt last long. signed up on AW/AOL when it was hourly charge 11/93?? I think...
Stayed till +moss told me about AH beta at the 99 AW con....signed up in sept99 I think and have been here ever since with multiple "interuptions"...
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I played WarBirds for a bit. Did a couple of flights in AH during beta to see what it was like. Signed up for AH in Tour 3, I think, and have been signed up ever since.
Don't play much anymore though.
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Fighter Ace in the original Beta 1996 then here since Tour 8 - August 2000
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Originally posted by Brooke
I started playing Air Warrior in 1988 and started playing Aces High in 2001.
...OK...so Brooke isn't a noob to me. :D
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My first flight sim was some POS for the Commodore VIC 20. It had gauges and sound, but no views out of the windows.
I then went through every version of MS Flight Sim up to 2000, plus Combat Flight Sim 1,2 and 3, and the Microprose classics F15 Strike Eagle and Apache Gunship 2. M1 Tank Platoon was also a favorite.
Strangely, I never thought of playing on-line. I didn't have internet at home until 2001 and the arrival of DSL. (I always had fast internet at Uni / work and dial up seemed too painful). It was one of the Military Channel ads that got me into AH2 about a year ago.
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Found AW in '95 on AOL when I bought my first house after getting out of the Army. Just finished 5 years in germany. Found this AH web page when someone mentioned in AW a new flight sim was in the works. Joined the BBS in Aug of '99 and eagerly awaited the open beta.
Have been here since and lovin it! :aok
HiTech, btw, my ex-wife hated you, and my present wife tolerates you, hehe :D Great game, great wife, man I got it made!!
Rob
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Started AW in 98 ish, when AW went down I played Fighter Ace until that left MS Zone and finally made it here in 2002. Been here since and still a spitdweeb by choice.
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Although I've played longer than NB (didn't say anthing about skill) he is...or does look a lot older than me!
(started AW in 88/89 time frame-9th camp I believe)
LW
Originally posted by NoBaddy
You are all a buncha noobs..... :D
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Man does the "Gunfighter" logo bring back some memories
LW
Originally posted by Oldman731
Me, too. October, 1996. Came to AH when AW died 12/7/2001.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Lone Wolf
Although I've played longer than NB (didn't say anthing about skill) he is...or does look a lot older than me!
(started AW in 88/89 time frame-9th camp I believe)
LW
Look older?? Maybe, but I still look BETTER!!
We need a gathering. I was talkin to Harry about a possible trip north in a few weeks. Think you might be interested?
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Tour 47 for me but played a little jane combat flight sim on and off for a few years.
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Long Time... was 9900 in Airwarior .....yes bomber pilot.
999000
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LW and NB in a beauty pageant???
Somebody please poke out my minds eye!!! :rolleyes:
ya'll better holler if ya come up this way :D
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Originally posted by Coach
LW and NB in a beauty pageant???
Somebody please poke out my minds eye!!! :rolleyes:
ya'll better holler if ya come up this way :D
Yes I will...then I will poke your eyes out. :)
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Been here since Tour 22 when Air Warrior imploded. Played AW3 on Kesmai through to its death with EA, so I guess late '96 through to 2001.
First PC based Flight Sim would have been Jet Fighter in all its wire frame glory in '86 or so.
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Been here since the Beta, prior to that was and AW dweeb. Been through a few name changes, but for the past few years have been what my original beta name was:aok
Does falcon CGA count? or Chuck Yeagers AFT? 4.7mHz of 4 color glory!
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Played Air Warrior, by the hour..1998.
Took time off, then moved onto here.... Tour 30ish I believe.
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Damn, NB and Lone Wolf are Old Farts...:D
NB when would the "gathering" be?
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Started with AW in '95 on aolhell, started checking out AH on and off in '99, (when it was $30 a month) started permanently a few months before AW puked out
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Wow, look at the ole farts waken up!:D
First offline was Gunship back in like 85 various other flight sims etc..
Found AW in late 96 I think it was and was instantly hooked! Flew AW through the last day (cursed EA....)
Joined a few of my squaddies in Fighter Ace while most others went to wwiionline. in May 02 tried AH (tour 28). Most of my squaddies have since joined me in AH along with many new members. Been in AH ever since with a couple of breaks. But i've never cancelled my sub.
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I started with Warbirds back when it was in beta and called "Confirmed Kill." That would mean I started in May, 1995.
I stuck with Warbirds until 2001 as my main flightsim, but I was onboard with AH since the early betas.
The funny thing is that I didn't even like airplanes and flightsims when I got started. I was just tired of "playing against the computer," and Warbirds was (I thought) the only show in town at that point.
-Llama
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Could very well be up for it (might even drag along a newfound partner)
Let me know when for sure and I'll see what I can "arrange)
LW-who Darla still thinks looks better than NB
Originally posted by NoBaddy
Look older?? Maybe, but I still look BETTER!!
We need a gathering. I was talkin to Harry about a possible trip north in a few weeks. Think you might be interested?
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We'll hollar "JALLLLLAPENNNNOOOOO"
-as we leave town
LW
Originally posted by Coach
LW and NB in a beauty pageant???
Somebody please poke out my minds eye!!! :rolleyes:
ya'll better holler if ya come up this way :D
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Hmmmmm...not sure one town can take SB, NB, LW, and the Chief Putz in Charge (not HT....but Heater) :>
LW
Originally posted by Heater
Damn, NB and Lone Wolf are Old Farts...:D
NB when would the "gathering" be?
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I responded to a post by Guppy35 in another thread where he stated:
Please post only once so we get a good count. Include your starting date as closely as you remember it, the sim you started in, and your guess as to the percent of long-time players in AHII.
I started in '96 in Air Warrior and my guess at long-timers is half the player base.
I first flew in AW in the very early 90's. I've subscribed to pretty much every online sim that's come along since then at least for a little while, culminating in AH which I first started playing in 2001.
I honestly don't know how many long time players still play. That would depend on what one defines as long term I guess. If we're talking from the late 80's-early 90's when it all got rolling, then probably not too many. Maybe 5% perhaps. If we're going within the last decade I'd think the number would be pretty high, perhaps as high as 30%. For myself I kinda come and go....play a bit, go inactive a while, play a bit, etc.
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First this isn't meant to be a punt, just a final analysis on this thread after giving it plenty of time to be responded to.
We had 104 responses. To make it easier I'll use 100 to eliminate a couple of duplicate entries.
If we assume there are somewhere just over 6000 people in the AH universe (probably a little low but close enough based on the lowest ranks seen in the arenas) and that 5% make up the vocal majority of the AH community that visit the BBs (according to many posts I've read) then there are 300 BBs users. If we further assume that the BBs users represent a cross-section of the AH player base (a big assumption), then 1/3 of all players are "long-timers".
Lower than my initial 50% estimate and probably actually closer to 25% due to assumptions but still a substantial number.
Of course this isn't scientific by any means but should be directionally correct.
I know that of my small 7 member squad at least 3 were former AWers and only 1 other than myself participates in the BBs.
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You bunch of noobs are making me feel way too old. I was Rave ::IAF:: cpid 3353 late 93 on GEnie and paying the big bucks. I remember Vortex and especially (ready for a flashback bud?) his CO Athos and the rest of the Musketeers, as well as vaguely remembering Nobaddy, Grits and Lone Wolf.
Started with the old Microprose like some of the other "old timers" and did h2h on Falcon 3.0 quite a bit back then. Here's a short list for the Nostalgic... (Vortex actually took this Camp off so the rest of us could get some kills, and to thank him, I left his rank that camp off) :)
Nobaddy...were you cpid 5553? Lone Wolf...cpid 220?
Been off for a long while, but thinking to get going again...
FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR
CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994
Arena 1 Individual Scores:
Fighter Scores as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Rank Score Country Ship Handle Mail
1 601745 B 4233 Greycap JG 54 R.STATHAM
2 578797 A 6540 ^ZYfly^ -AW- R.FULTON2
3 489117 A 3988 Splash ::IAF:: M.MCGOWEN
4 478008 B 3488 Phantom JG 54 G.SMITH14
5 402224 C 565 Tarkus SL/FL-I **BS** M.SPENCER3
6 359863 A 4717 TOMCAT ::IAF:: T.BIFULCO
7 359835 A 3822 +-}--Hell-----*XO* S.SARKISIAN1
8 350662 B 3422 Doom JG 54 M.HOBUSS
9 305829 A 937 IconoClast S.FORBEN
10 272530 C 4989 ToMMnatr>FUBAR XO< T.CHRISTIE1
11 227445 B 5769 Shark JG 54 L.RABURN
12 214049 C 4419 Rasta CO Black Sheep C.MENDOZA
13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
14 203708 B 4276 COLORADO JG 54 D.WILLIAMS4
15 201549 A 4219 Hidalgo ::IAF:: R.CAVOLA
16 185342 B 3683 Proteous JG 54 D.VANDERWAL1
17 179743 B 5826 Joker -UFO- BL J.SAMACICIA
18 173010 B 4243 BADER M.FALLON1
19 168083 B 6422 maque G.MACDONALD7
20 161005 A 2268 RamDog *XO* JG26 P.HARGETT
21 155554 B 6064 Rip JG 54 T.BURMEISTER
22 153263 C 6008 PropWash L/FL-B **BS** R.SIMPSON11
23 137309 B 5017 Gator JG 54 J.KIMMERLY1
24 137022 B 2819 Der Bubba JG 54 J.KENNEDY15
25 130264 A 5842 +-}--PRIMATE------- M.MCMANUS1
26 125880 C 5545 Buzzard F.GOSS
27 124198 B 6687 Submission -UFO- A G.SIEVERS
28 123544 C 4781 BigJim LtCol FL-C**BS** J.HARRISON32
29 119921 A 6609 +-}--ATHOS------ VALHALLA
30 113805 C 3843 Sabre R.TIMBLIN1
6913 A 6533 -)-Vortex---
Arena 1 - Team Scores:
Country Missions Kills Fighter/Bomber Pnts Planes Lost
A 13206 6882 5379288/4594171 9322
B 11893 6925 5727542/2612135 7917
C 13085 6407 3927892/1322323 9839
Fighter Squadrons as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Score Squad Name
3021686 5910 JG 54 "The Green Hearts"
1735641 4374 Imperial Air Force ::IAF::
850554 4419 Black Sheep <>
771716 6609 +-}--MUSKETEERS-----
699230 5191 UFO
555809 565 <>
405776 1443 BLACK SHEEP <>
405203 4937 JG26 (Abbeville Boys)
345854 5894 FUBARS 13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
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I started AW sometime in '92 or '93 on GEniE, I think. I remember thinking "cool, They lowered it to $6.00 an hour! I can afford that!".
Then CRS(?) offered it for $3.00 an hour which was totally awesome.
I also tried Delphi....wherever I could play cheapest. Then AOL came along and you could play for "free" since it was included in the AOL subscription...BUT....it was separate from all the other arenas. It sucked because it started fragmenting the AW community...and then you also had all of the new versions of AW coming out, further fragmenting the AW community because PC's and their accessories weren't as cheap as they are now.
I was a member of The Damned back then and we were having a heck of a time dealing with who was here or there.....and then we also had people switching to WB and that promising new sim, AH, that was in beta and you could fly for free.
It was crazy. As a trainer in AW I was keeping multiple services so I could access the various versions on AW...plus I was keeping a WB's account so I could fly with my squad mates...as well as a AH beta account. Then there was the squad message board flare up and finally EA killing AW. I had visited Kesmai down in Charlottesville and made friends with the people there. I hung out with them at the '96 Con and kept in touch with them. How could this happen?!?!?!
AH went to the production version and it helped fill the void, so to speak, but I was getting burned out and I had alot of stuff going on and I decided that it would be better to put my family first and step away from it all.
5 Years later I got sucked back in after my oldest asked me for a flight sim and I thought "I bet AH would be good for him....realistic....free to d/l and install....and we can do h2h if he likes it." Then, like a crack head finding a rock in their carpet, I decided to activate the 2 week trial....
It's tough to be a "newb" again....but it's great to see all the old hands. It's like being home again.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Since Tour 12 ended 1/31/01 then tour 1 must have ended on 2/28/00. Since the first tours were beta and other sim's were still alive then lets use tour 12 as the beginning so the question is, how many have played flight sims since 1/1/01 or earlier.
Started in '93 with AWDOS until the bitter end before finally making the move to AH at the tail end of Tour 7.
ack-ack
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Yeager -- currently taking a break from the game (break number 5). Been playing since day one open beta. I will return again.
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Originally posted by Raven3353
Nobaddy...were you cpid 5553? Lone Wolf...cpid 220?
Been off for a long while, but thinking to get going again...
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Yes and I believe yes, as well. LW is still around also. I have seen at least 1 old time Muskie here.....Kumori I believe. The Muskies were some of my favorite enemies. Guys like Athos, Rapier, Bman....those were fun fights with good folk. Of course, back in those days, the game had much more of a "small town" feel. I can remember Sunday evening Bland squad nights. The Warhawks would put up 20 guys, the Muskies 5 or 6. The Damned would put maybe 3 up in Cland to oppose (the arena limit was only 32 :)). I used to get the crap kicked out of me...and love every minute of it. :D
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Originally posted by Lone Wolf
Hmmmmm...not sure one town can take SB, NB, LW, and the Chief Putz in Charge (not HT....but Heater) :>
LW
COD...I do love it when we put Heater in charge. He is always the first to die and everyone gets multi-kills off his 6. :D
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Wanna know whats the worst for this old timer? I still have my CHPro Flightstick and CH Pro Pedals. Pedals need a new pot, but haven't had to upgrade that hardware since AWDos days...
Either good hardware or lack of stress
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I started Warbirds in 97 or 98, flew there for a while, and then came here during beta sometime. I flew under a couple of different handles, finally settling on Hamish for a long time. took a 3 or so year break, and am now flying again, under ElHeffe, and i'm too lazy to get my old handle back, and don't want to lose what few perks i've finally saved up after flying a few weeks.
regards,
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Started playing AH mid 2000 (tour 6). Had several handles:
airecoil
remie
apar
dutchie
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Originally posted by Raven3353
Wanna know whats the worst for this old timer? I still have my CHPro Flightstick and CH Pro Pedals. Pedals need a new pot, but haven't had to upgrade that hardware since AWDos days...
Either good hardware or lack of stress
Good hardware? Yes. But....
Sounds like your fights must be kinda wimpy. :D
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Now we are going to find out what old guys means. My first sim was F-18 Interceptor On the Commodore Amiga 500 in 1987.
It produced 640 x 400 (using interlacing) graphics if you had a monitor instead of a TV. The Amiga did have some great sound capabilities. It used digital sound, through 4 separate channels.
(Sound Blaster doesn’t have 4 separate digital channels.) The sound was pumped through two audio outputs, with 2 channels assigned to each one. This let the Amiga produce true stereo sound.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/99/20060721164043!Amiga500_system1.jpg)
Aaaahhh the good ole days
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Originally posted by COndor06
Now we are going to find out what old guys means. My first sim was...
Early '80s...Spitfire Ace on the Atari 800. Looking back...really sad. :)
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Been here since there were about four airplanes and it was free. There were some B17's flying around with no guns.
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Started with DOS Airwarrior in 92. Switched to Confirmed Kill in 95
(which became Warbirds 9x),then switched to AH1 in 2000. Quit the online
stuff for 2 years then flew sporadically in Warbirds for the next couple
of years. Came back to AH2 in 2004,and have been here ever since.
Aside from the above Airwarrior (and sons of Airwarrior) type games,
I have played these extensively over the past 15 years
Arcade Game Red Baron (circa 1980 - hooked me for life)
MS Flight Simulator 4-10
Flight Unlimited I/II
Falcon 3.0/4.0/Allied Force
Microprose B-17
Aces over the Pacific/Europe/1946
Fighter Duel
MS Combat Flight Simulator 1/2
SU-27 Flanker/2.0/2.5
Jane's ATF, IAF, WWII, Marine Fighters, Longbow I/II, F-15 and F-18
Rowan's Mig Alley
F/A 18 Hornet
Lock On Modern Air Combat
IL-2/Forgotten Battles/Aces/1946
Nowadays, I mainly play AH2, but on the side ,I play LOMAC,
Falcon AF, IL-2 1946 and MS FS 2004/X
Worst Flight Sim Ever ? My vote has to go with Rowan's Flying Corps
(aka "Flying Corpse")
I think the most promising (but overhyped/fell flat on it's face) combat
flight sim of all time was Phillips Fighter Duel - that one is the
biggest letdown I've ever seen. Honorable Mention: Janes' WWII.
If I had a one-lifetime-request to ask HTC, it would be to make a
Korean War Arena - even if it only had a small handful of Jets (perked)
mixed with the late WWII prop planes that made it into conflict.
I very much miss the F-86 and Mig-15 of old Airwarrior, and would really
like to see them again along with old classics like the Meteor,
P-80, F9F, Banshee, and of course, the incomparable A-26 Invader :-)
On being an oldtimer equating with skill : I find there's little corrolation
between years spent online and being a Great Stick. It just seems to click with
some people early on, and others never at all. I've seen some guys play 10+
years and they never really get great with fighters - seen others become uber
aces after 6 months of play. I have also found that there is a heavy
corrolation between heavy online alcohol use and inhibited learning curve :-)
You also have to mix-it-up constantly to get really good - if you do nothing
but milk runs and sneak bases, you'll stagnate fast. You also have to
film your battles and analyze what you did wrong, and change tactics accordingly.
Reading up on the subject (especially Shaw's book) greatly helps.
In the end, being around a long time gives you a certain indescribable depth,
and more often than not, makes you a real fun character online (regardless of
how Good a Stick you are). I've been at it +/- 15 years now, and I'm really
only half decent at best I think.
Shamroc
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Originally posted by llama
I started with Warbirds back when it was in beta and called "Confirmed Kill." That would mean I started in May, 1995.
I stuck with Warbirds until 2001 as my main flightsim, but I was onboard with AH since the early betas.
Same here, was in the CK beta as -vlcn-, then in warbirds as -vlkn- . Then came to AH when it was still in beta.
Oh, and my first sim... probably Solo Flight on an early Atari :)
These days I only play games that support my headset (AH, FS X, and LOMAC, maybe EE2 if I'm feeling masochistic).
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Originally posted by COndor06
Now we are going to find out what old guys means. My first sim was F-18 Interceptor On the Commodore Amiga 500 in 1987.
Dude, thats not old. This is old...
(http://www.civfanatics.com/sidlegacy/soloflight.jpg)
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not that old tour 61 started with the LTARs and i cannot remember my ID before that but i would have to say tour 55 but since i cant remember my old ID i will go with 61.
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Originally posted by Raven3353
You bunch of noobs are making me feel way too old. I was Rave ::IAF:: cpid 3353 late 93 on GEnie and paying the big bucks. I remember Vortex and especially (ready for a flashback bud?) his CO Athos and the rest of the Musketeers, as well as vaguely remembering Nobaddy, Grits and Lone Wolf.
Ah yes, remember those times well. Old 6533! Good seeing you again Raven! I think that camp would have been right around the time I took a job up north and had to shut down the flying for a bit. The $6/hr was bad enough...long distance charges on top of that would have been right nasty!
I still fly every now and then, on a dark sunglasses account though. My handle was picked up here a while ago by someone else, so if you see a "Vortex" flying, that's not me :). Last time I flew that handle here would have probably been about 2004-5. As Nobaddy mentioned though I do believe Kumori still flies. He would have been around about that time. I still see the odd email from Stiletto, Waxer, Bug and B-man on the old Muskie mailing list. Rapier too. Haven't heard anything from some of the other fellas from the Muskies that used to fly then like Athos, Bushwacker, or shep (hehe, now there was a guy who could spin together some truly entertaining posts) in a loong time.
Speaking of Lone Wolf, he and I went and tangled it up in some real air combat (well, kinda real) at Texas Air Aces down in Houston at one of the AW cons (I don't recall what year that was...94 or 95 maybe?). For anyone that has an itch to try that sort of thing, I highly recommend it. Definitely a ton of fun!
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AW aol '96
AW3 on Gamestorm and ea
Dabbled with WB 1.xx
AH in tour 21 when I learned Kesmai Studios had been closed.
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Originally posted by Raven3353
You bunch of noobs are making me feel way too old. I was Rave ::IAF:: cpid 3353 late 93 on GEnie and paying the big bucks. I remember Vortex and especially (ready for a flashback bud?) his CO Athos and the rest of the Musketeers, as well as vaguely remembering Nobaddy, Grits and Lone Wolf.
LOL, dont worry Raven, almost everyone "vaguely" remembers me. :) I was flying then, but I split my time between Half Time (remember that?) and Real Time. I didnt make the permanent move to RT until later in '94 I guess around May, which is about when I joined the Gunfighters.
The first squad I joined was JG26 in Half Time, then I was in DoW for a bit, and then just went solo. I remember the IAF was a big squad in Half Time.
I see Tarkus in that list. I kinda wish I knew what old Tarkus was up to now, that guy started as a sworn enemy, then we got to be good friends. Always a funny guy to fly with or against.
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I started "flying" in '97, back on Air Warrior Classic. Would have started before then, but I was only 12 as it was lol. 0LDemon found it on AOL, because the was the "big thing" back then.. AOhelL. He later got me hooked on it, and we been at it ever since. Didn't start playing AH til EA bout AW and gave it the boot, and even then I only played for a few months before giving it up. It just wasn't my precious Air Warrior. The people even changed, some acted like they didn't even know ya lol. To me, that was the worst part, the people changing. The best thing about AW was the community, bar none. No other online community will EVER come close to what AW had.
After playing a few months, I soon canceled my account, although I still played under 0LDemon's name when I visited him on the weekends and during the summer, and made a full come back in tour 50. Been at this god forsaken game ever since :)
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Aces High is my first and only flight sim and I started in Tour 35.
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moin
me and my dad (synrII) here since 2003.
we love this game and play it all day. but we had more fun with the one big arena :-(.
cu chris3
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First flight sim was Flight Simulator 2 for the commodore 64 (can't remember the year), still have it at home, lol and still have many of the commodore parts. Then I played whatever version of WB came with the logitetch wingman pro joystick. Started palying online in version 2.something. Tried AH1 not sure what tour but it ran poorly compared to WB on the PC I was using. The frame rate was unplayable and didn't see the need to upgrade when WB was still alive. Moved to WB 2004 when it came out and flew only in the WW2 arena until it died. Then moved to AH2 and never looked back.
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I remember the time when duelling was made flipping a book :D
FSI then hiatus ;) AoP,AoE,big hiatus, EAW,CFSI,and finally AH since beta 3
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I started out in 1998 in AW1 up to the last AW. Then when EA sold us out, my Squadron ( Dover Dawgs) went over to AH 2001 (if I remember right). Had a had time learning to fly here. Our Squadron join up with "Tiger Squadron" which I am still with today. Got my first kill after 2 months. Flew until Oct of 2004 when Uncle Sam sent me on a little trip for 18 months. Got back in Jan of 06 and had to learn how to fly again. I enjoy this flight sim very much. Thanks to my squad, all the guys who fly this sim and most of all, AH staff.:aok
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Aces High in 02 at the ripe squeeking age of 12.
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I am almost as old as an oldtimer can get in massively multiplayer online sims: I started at campaign 1 of the original Air Warrior (Amiga) in 1987. I have been continuously flying (virtually) from AW to CK to WB to AH. I was plane # 715 in AW. When AW made people select alpha handles I somehow got to be the only person allowed to keep my plane number as my handle. That's why I'm 715B now (B from the changeover from AH beta to production).
Do oldtimers get better with time? I certainly didn't. In fact I have gone on a continual slide in the opposite direction with increasing age. Scores from campaign 2 of AW show me near the top. Now I have to fly exceedingly defensively just to stay a bit below mediocre.
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I started flying online in '92 back at the dawn of SVGA Air Warrior.
Had the tail # 4580 and my initial "handle" was "Seadog".
I switched to "Gypsy Baron" a short time later.
I flew AW from '92 until it's demise. In the early days on GEnie
I used to rack up $600-$700 monthly CC bills, flying at $6/hour.
When AW added CRIS and the price dropped to a couple of bucks
an hour, it was a banner day for flight sims :)
Then came the dreaded addition of the "All you can eat" AOL
addition to AW....at that point the "game" changed dramatically
with the influx of more than the "10,000 dweebs" forecast by
DoK when AW SVGA came out :)
I think I had a CK account, briefly, but while AW was alive I never
found the need to fly any other sim.
I had an AH account prior to the death of AW but didnt fly here that
much. Now I pop into the arenas only occasionally while I wait for
"the next scenario", which is often too far in the future and too short!
I miss the old AW 12-frame scenarios that DoK created. Frames on
Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday for four weeks. Talk about keeping
the command staff BUSY!
I see Grits and 715 here on this page....haven't perused the earlier
pages in this thread yet but I'm sure I'll see alot of familiar "faces"
from the early days of AW.
=GB= aka 4580, Gypsy Baron, GypsyB
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Genie days... Around $800 a month, fricken ludicrous, but god was it fun..
And I still vaguely play..
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First flight sim I played was I believe called Jet on franklin apple IIe machines then later I played on an amiga which I believe was Jet 2? but we had troubles with the boards.
Aside from arcades and nintendo I didn't get into pc flight sims until AW3 in about august of 1999. I believe I went under the name of psycho.
When ea gave AW3 the boot I think I tried warbirds for a day or 2 and I tried AH around late 2001 for a week or two.
Decided to come back and get into it again last year and then again finally this year.
bluetalon
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Originally posted by Raven3353
You bunch of noobs are making me feel way too old. I was Rave ::IAF:: cpid 3353 late 93 on GEnie and paying the big bucks. I remember Vortex and especially (ready for a flashback bud?) his CO Athos and the rest of the Musketeers, as well as vaguely remembering Nobaddy, Grits and Lone Wolf.
Started with the old Microprose like some of the other "old timers" and did h2h on Falcon 3.0 quite a bit back then. Here's a short list for the Nostalgic... (Vortex actually took this Camp off so the rest of us could get some kills, and to thank him, I left his rank that camp off) :)
Nobaddy...were you cpid 5553? Lone Wolf...cpid 220?
Been off for a long while, but thinking to get going again...
FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR
CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994
Arena 1 Individual Scores:
Fighter Scores as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Rank Score Country Ship Handle Mail
1 601745 B 4233 Greycap JG 54 R.STATHAM
2 578797 A 6540 ^ZYfly^ -AW- R.FULTON2
3 489117 A 3988 Splash ::IAF:: M.MCGOWEN
4 478008 B 3488 Phantom JG 54 G.SMITH14
5 402224 C 565 Tarkus SL/FL-I **BS** M.SPENCER3
6 359863 A 4717 TOMCAT ::IAF:: T.BIFULCO
7 359835 A 3822 +-}--Hell-----*XO* S.SARKISIAN1
8 350662 B 3422 Doom JG 54 M.HOBUSS
9 305829 A 937 IconoClast S.FORBEN
10 272530 C 4989 ToMMnatr>FUBAR XO< T.CHRISTIE1
11 227445 B 5769 Shark JG 54 L.RABURN
12 214049 C 4419 Rasta CO Black Sheep C.MENDOZA
13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
14 203708 B 4276 COLORADO JG 54 D.WILLIAMS4
15 201549 A 4219 Hidalgo ::IAF:: R.CAVOLA
16 185342 B 3683 Proteous JG 54 D.VANDERWAL1
17 179743 B 5826 Joker -UFO- BL J.SAMACICIA
18 173010 B 4243 BADER M.FALLON1
19 168083 B 6422 maque G.MACDONALD7
20 161005 A 2268 RamDog *XO* JG26 P.HARGETT
21 155554 B 6064 Rip JG 54 T.BURMEISTER
22 153263 C 6008 PropWash L/FL-B **BS** R.SIMPSON11
23 137309 B 5017 Gator JG 54 J.KIMMERLY1
24 137022 B 2819 Der Bubba JG 54 J.KENNEDY15
25 130264 A 5842 +-}--PRIMATE------- M.MCMANUS1
26 125880 C 5545 Buzzard F.GOSS
27 124198 B 6687 Submission -UFO- A G.SIEVERS
28 123544 C 4781 BigJim LtCol FL-C**BS** J.HARRISON32
29 119921 A 6609 +-}--ATHOS------ VALHALLA
30 113805 C 3843 Sabre R.TIMBLIN1
6913 A 6533 -)-Vortex---
Arena 1 - Team Scores:
Country Missions Kills Fighter/Bomber Pnts Planes Lost
A 13206 6882 5379288/4594171 9322
B 11893 6925 5727542/2612135 7917
C 13085 6407 3927892/1322323 9839
Fighter Squadrons as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Score Squad Name
3021686 5910 JG 54 "The Green Hearts"
1735641 4374 Imperial Air Force ::IAF::
850554 4419 Black Sheep <>
771716 6609 +-}--MUSKETEERS-----
699230 5191 UFO
555809 565 <>
405776 1443 BLACK SHEEP <>
405203 4937 JG26 (Abbeville Boys)
345854 5894 FUBARS 13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
Crap I was 28th that camp as my old handle Bigjim lol, but that list sure brought back memories :)
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Started simming with Flight Unlimited and combat simming with Su-27 at 1997.
Did some offline/LAN h2h with WB2.7*(?).
Finally AH1 subscription at 2000-2001.
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Originally posted by straffo
I remember the time when duelling was made flipping a book :D
LOL straffo I remember playing those. Friend had a spitfire vs 109 set.
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The first plane game I had was Sopwith Camel. The next one was Chuck Yeager's Air Combat on Mac. I copied that to the school's computer lab Macs asap.
Later I tried MS' Flight Simulators, Novalogic's F22, and a few other offline games but they weren't that fun.
I found out about online WWII dogfight sims in a game magazine, at around the time IEN aquired Warbirds (or something like that). The multiplayer action screenshots had me drooling already. I couldn't play at the time (too expensive from out in the countryside where I was), but around sometime in 1998, I flew in WBs, Dawn of Aces, and that space game in which it was impossible to get any sense of depth to dogfight with.
In summer 2000 I finaly tried AH after having heard about it from CavemanJ (remember #ezgtchat?:eek:). I somehow only found out about the forum a year or two later.
The first squad I joined was Straffo's. What was it called?
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AW Genie days when it was delphi, genie and cris. I came on through cris. $3.99 an hour but dropped to $1.99 towards the end.
Moved to AoHell Beta before the demise of the Genie AW. In fact, I let a bud use my cris account for the final frog auger of Genie AW as he had already closed his account and was doing beta and training on the PC side of AoHell. I ended up on the Mac side as trainer. He was one of the original plank holders for AW.
Worked as trainer on Mac side for years and went over to the pc side after Aohell and continued there as a trainer ini gamestorm til its end.
Our Squad moved to AH, en masse, (I think 30+ moved over at one time with more coming in until we had somewhere around 76 guys up) at the demise of EA AW. We had a few already in game from the beta but most came in around Tour 14 or 15.
Still trying ta help new guys get started after all these years. I must be a glutton for punishment. :)
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I've been messing with flying computers since I bought my apple IIe and a sublogic flight simulator. That was an interesting one, bunch of lines and a ton of imagination.
Next was a 386dx PC and red baron and ms flight simulator 4. I bought all those new but don't really remember the years. My first online sim was WarBirds 1.12 if I remember correctly. $2.00 an hour. I couldn't see how HTC could make a profit on just $29.95 a month when they started Aces High. They did though...:D
Word.
Mark
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Howdy, GB and 715. GB, good to see you registered for Der Grosse Schlag!
And howdy to WildThing.
I remember WT well from the early 90's, as he was involved in the process of my skill going from dweeb level to decent. I had started playing AW in campaign #1 in the late 80's, but wasn't very good and didn't play much until the early 90's. He was around pretty late many nights, and he was willing to fight me again and again and again during some of those times when there weren't many people up. After a lot of this, I became quite good at dogfighting.
So, thanks, WT. :)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
LOL straffo I remember playing those. Friend had a spitfire vs 109 set.
I had camel versus DRI (I think) and it was fun :)
The first squad I joined was Straffo's. What was it called?
341 Alsace (or something like that) ?
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Originally posted by straffo
I had camel versus DRI (I think) and it was fun :)
341 Alsace (or something like that) ?
That was a great game for its day! :) Each player had a book of views, with maneuvers at the bottom and corresponding page numbers. You'd pick a maneuver, tell your opponent a page number, and he would tell you a page number. You'd go to that page, pick your maneuver and go to a result page number, as would your opponent to see how that move worked out. It was called "Ace of Aces" in the US.
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Started in AW somewhere around '98. Joined the 367th (formerly flaming chickens) in RR Euro. Don't know if any of them, other than scud, are still around. Stopped about a month before EA took it down. Didn't get here until June of 2005.
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AOL Air Warrior 1996...
Taken one 2 year break, and now on my second break... 1 year so far... RL can be crap sometimes.
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AW on AOL somewhere in 96.. stayed through till it was shut down by EA
Balsy always with the exception of =BAL= which I flew under with =HOP= AND =MAL= and I cant even remember the name of the squadron..
I remember the 600mph d9 dives with devi33 in AW, and the awsome f4u versus ki84 fites.
10 years.. nah.. can it really be??
Whels and I would fly side by side to get absolutely equal e states than separate for 'duels'.
DANO was the man in the a8, and I specifically remember the generally all around hatred for a guy named -PAL and his p51 pick and runstang.
I guess Im one of the dumb ones that doesnt leave when market research says I should.
Balsy
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Started in early days of AW. Haven`t looked back since.
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341 Alsace must have been it.. There was another one with german-like nomenclature, I dunno if it was before or after Alsace.
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Tour 11
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Originally posted by Brooke
That was a great game for its day! :) Each player had a book of views, with maneuvers at the bottom and corresponding page numbers. You'd pick a maneuver, tell your opponent a page number, and he would tell you a page number. You'd go to that page, pick your maneuver and go to a result page number, as would your opponent to see how that move worked out. It was called "Ace of Aces" in the US.
That's it !
I pissed my father to get one during weeks (I was 12 in 1982) and buying oversea cryptic product was not easy as today :)
Originally posted by moot
341 Alsace must have been it.. There was another one with german-like nomenclature, I dunno if it was before or after Alsace.
JG26 Abbeville kids ? but it was later
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I've been playing since AHI on and off since around 2002... I'd say five years is pretty long.
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Started in AW2(95-96?) , then to Aw3 on gamestorm . Left aw3 when net connection went down the crapper (99ish?) . Then came over here in 2000 . I forgot the name i originally registered with so i can't find the first tour i flew . There was first 2 weeker i forgot ( maybe rukee) then 38ruk(tour 13 ) then 38MAW now back to rukee lol.
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Hey BigJim (BoxBoy). I remember you, as well. Usually trading shots, but espcially a short period of time just before I went IAF. I bounced over to CLand to fly with Rasta - that boy could fly - and ran a few missions with you and some others. I remember WildThing as well. Good times...even as fun as some of the current sims are, none of it really compares to those early days.
I think part of it was because at $6 an hour, we were all doing our best to make every second count - flying and comaraderie.
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Started with Warbirds 1.xx in 97 and switched over to AH in 2001 or 2002.
To bad my skill level doesn't reflect this. :)
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My dad used to play MS flightsim wiht me when i was younger, Aces high was when i first played online.
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Originally posted by Raven3353
Hey BigJim (BoxBoy). I remember you, as well. Usually trading shots, but espcially a short period of time just before I went IAF. I bounced over to CLand to fly with Rasta - that boy could fly - and ran a few missions with you and some others. I remember WildThing as well. Good times...even as fun as some of the current sims are, none of it really compares to those early days.
I think part of it was because at $6 an hour, we were all doing our best to make every second count - flying and comaraderie.
HEHEH yep I remember you and those 6 bucks an hour (ouch), used to get lots of wife ack back then.
Do you remember RangerBob? He is my best friend and we started flying these things together he is still around in WWIIOL I think. I remember him and I having a big argument over wheather or not Confirmed Kill would be vapoware when it was just a BB anouncement :cool:
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2002 with Aces High.
Started flight sims on Sega Genesis with F22 Interceptor, that game was bad ass.
Since then I've been flying flight sims, but AH was my first online flight sim.
EDIT: Just looked back at my first tour and I logged 115 flight hours within a month. That's an average of 3.83 hours a day - God Aces High was so cool back then.
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..first sim was TFX in around 1993-1994.
(http://www.migman.com/ref/1990_combat/TFX/pics/box_TFX_UK.jpg)
started with aces high in 2000. and still enjoying it, just the only game i never lost interest in it over this long of time..
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Started playing in tour 43, sept 2003.
Was lousy in the beginning, Been mediocre ever since.
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Originally posted by VERTEX
Started playing in tour 43, sept 2003.
Was lousy in the beginning, Been mediocre ever since.
Funny, all this time and Ive not seen a player named mediocre on the roster?
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Thats funny Mrdr, cracked me up.
Looked up my score during my first tour, flew 211 sorties and got 29 kills, ouch.
I was even worse than I remembered.
I do recall my first sortie. I flew a p51d towards a cv furball. even though I came in high I died within a few seconds once I got near the furball.
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Originally posted by SOLAS
..first sim was TFX in around 1993-1994.
started with aces high in 2000. and still enjoying it, just the only game i never lost interest in it over this long of time..
Ahhh sweet memories. I used to play EF2000 (the sequel to TFX) a lot on a VFX-1 VR Headset Those were sweet times.
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Airwarrior offline for a couple months in 96.
Warbirds with the Buccaneeres in 96 - eskimo
One member was a tester.
Our entire squad moved to AH the day it went public - eskimo
Quit flying 2 years ago when my PC got too old (kept my account though)
Just built a new one and should be back very soon.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Just built a new one and should be back very soon.
We're waiting for you.
- oldman
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Not me! I'll never admit to 'playing airplane' for over a decade. That's not very sensible, responsible, or practical. Who would consider me dependable, presentable, irrefutable, and logical? They'd be calling me a liberal or radical!
Regards,
Malta
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Been here since Beta point Zero errr. 1999?2000? as Vruth and changed my ID to Fork back in 2001. It's been so long now I don't remember exactly when I started.
Vulcan - TFX? WooHoo! I remember that and F-117! And Chuck Yeagers Air Combat
(http://www.migman.com/ref/1990_combat/ChuckYeager/pics/Yeager_box.jpg)
Now that is a classic! First time I played a sim that I actually required a decent joystick. Picked up a Gravis Advanced joystick just to play it. :)
Perhaps one of the best sims of its time.
Remember Dynamixs Red Barron
(http://www.migman.com/ref/1990_combat/RedBaron/pics/box_RedBaron.jpg)
Now, that was a neat sim! :)
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Hmmm,
I got back from Germany in 92, played AW a couple of times but it was 6.00/ hr for the game/connection and 12.00/hr for the long distance dial up... lotta money on a Sergeants pay. Started playing regular in 94 or so, in 96 I got out of the Army and in to the FAA played a lot in 97 played a lot of AH when it came out haven't played a lot in the last year or so (Work is eating a lot of my time) still Haunt the boards though
Regards,
Gunns
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..i remember ef2000 very well, in this time around 1996/97 it was a great sim and ahead of its time, for me just the first true jet sim and it was great fun to play..
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F19 Stealth by Microprose on a monochrome monitor, DOS of course. :D Thought I was in heaven and jets were not even my thing. LOL No idea what year that was. Late 1980's I guess.
Was in Warbirds 1 something. 1996? I remember those black sticks coming out the back of airplanes for smoke. Nothing could be better than this. :)
Started the Squad back in 1997. Moved here around 2000.
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started with aces high 1 2002, was gone sometimes in between, now in aces high 2 - really love aces high, nothing beats the flightmodel.
best offline:
1985 - interceptor - falcon - ms fs - flight unlimited (great!!) - flight unlimited 2 (even greater) - jane's aces over europe (great) - x-plane - 2007
i am not a frequent forum poster ;)
regards,
sveno
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Started as 'Deader' as part of the Aggressor squadron Oct 89 AWDOS on my killer Amiga 500.
.. I was one of the few in the squadron who actually knew how an airplane worked.
We were such dweebs -LOL- .. Mullah used to get mad at us because we did such silly stuff .. ruint the reputation of C-land for sure! DoK immortalized us on the GEnie bbs ..out of the 90 some odd people in the squadron very few actually stayed in the game.. the heat was on if you said anything about being an Aggressor :)
Vossman was one. (Jay Thompson, great guy, drank a lot when he flew, fun to shoot down, one of the few who stood the test of time, not that lyin sack who called himself 'Voss')
G-man talked me into the skies of AW, initially Damned,
..then invited to the Warthogs .. ever fly for a Colonel wannabe?
Ya ..Fencedweeb can police *this* up.
I remember HT and Heater takin high cons, me takin low, the 3 of us in stangs, over N:11 ..yea tho we flew into the Valley of Death ..we feared no evil .. because we *were* the owners of that valley.. we all ran low on ammo and fuel and landed a buncha kills.. there were 11 or so cons there when we arrived, and none when we left, altho A-land and C-land tried to drive us out.
I got booted out of the Warthogs by Fencedweeb, then grabbed by the FUBAR out of C-land.
Changed my handle to Grayeagle, I hunted b-land, specifically Warthogs, and a fencedweeb kill was golden.. screwing up one of their squad nights was a close 2nd. I would dive through a cloud of A-landers to gun down the lone B in a furball. It was my mission in AW.
There was *nothin* like followin Volstag in pure craziness air-to-air :)
'Frog Auger on 4!! .. 3.. 2.. 1 ..GO!'
Listenin to the Hoppy and Pho show :)
(they actually owned a P-38 ..Hoppy was disgusted with it, every time he flew it he managed to have to make a one engine landing.. AW didnt cost you anything if you bent the bird up!)
Or hookin up with Mullah on the deck, both of us in 190's, and just owning an A-land base till we were both outta ammo, fuel, and airplane.
I miss Krazy Kat, The Lady Jenna, the Fubar newsletter, Snail in the early days before he went completely off the deep end.. and JJ, the class act of FUBAR, winner of the 'Golden Sheep' award on many occasions.
The FUBAR were a blast to fly with.
Rapier, Stiletto, Hard Rock, ..so many tough fights, pegged my fun meter many times.
Then .. Blue Baron called me .. told me Kesmai wanted me as Lead Artist and 'when can you come out' .. LOL .. 'well, tomorrow wont work, howbout Friday (the day after tomorrow)' .. I think its the only time he was ever taken aback if just for a moment :)
I was 2 weeks away from my final exam for a CAD Engineering degree :)
I could go on for a long time .. suffice to say I think I qualify as an 'old timer' .. I will probably have to start up my 3rd acct here soon.
Had to cancel out a coupla times due to RL .. but now, as a Nurse, I dont see any layoffs, job market is thru the roof, ..and I just turned down workin doubles on Sunday for 44/hr because frankly .. I'd rather have the days off.
-Frank P. 'Grayeagle' Williamson
1326 AWDos
668 AWDos KesCo acct
AH from the demise of AW
(Herr Goebbels could learn from EA's propaganda machine)
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I sent WB > $100 a couple of months in a row before I found FA. switched to AH in beta/tour 1 there abouts. can't go by the dates next to handles on bbs as AH reset back in 2000 I think. It was $30 a month for AH when it first started up and had no gv's or ships, just A2A - those were the days
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EAW on kali in 1998.
Joined AH in tour 1.
And yeah, I just snuck back in under the wire after a long break.
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Hi Mates
I started in WarBirds back in 1996. Got on AH in beta days and have been here ever since. Left WB for good back in 2004.
Also, I am probably one of the oldest guys in AH. Passed the big 70 in July.
Cheers
Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in the RAF
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Majors, happy belated birthday! :aok
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Dear God, who knows... :huh
Umm, started swotl way back, before that tried various dos flight sims which came out. I remember one back in '92? based on star wars which I completed every level.
- Started Air Warrior in '95
- Tried Warbirds for abit when AW2 came out.... God aw2 sucked, WTG on killing a good game.
- Came back to AW3 for awhile.
- Started Aces High Early '00. Frenchy an I were trying different games then, playing the waters.
- Had a brief two month stint in IL2, EAP in 02.
- Continued Aces High an been here ever since.
I guess i'm a long timer, man where has the time gone? :confused:
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AOL AW then Gamestorm AW -War Birds till 99 beta of AH...been here every since. ..Kinda miss those $29.95 months.:lol
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Yah, I'm kinda new to this as well. Started playing when you paid for each minute back on GeNie during the first Airwarrior set up (remember the wire-frame airplane and terrain?). Off and on since then through Warbirds and now AH....
DOH! Yeah, I remember a $500.00 month once when I switched to a 9600 baud modem and was playing Kesmai's AW and Battletech nonstop. YOWCH. That cured me for a bit...
And I still r teh n00b, lol!
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Bunch of old farts.
Not sure if it was '96 or '97.......was a game called Flying Circus (I think...all I really remember of it was crappy graphics, white dot tracers and AKs all over me)
Got into WB at version 1.1, flew that until AH beta and never looked back since.
Currently serving out the tail end of a 12 month self imposed online flight sim ban, will be back making you lot's gunsights look more interesting real soon .
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Started with TSN (The Sierra Network, later INN) Reb Baron back in '93. Anyone remember that gross game they had called "Boogers"? :) Then Warbirds in 95-96 (I remember the huge monthly bills), then Fighter Ace when it was brand new, Flying Circus when it was new (and was flying their WW2 beta when they quit the business), Fighter Duel on Kali, EAW on both Kali and "The Zone", Aces High on day one of beta, early Sept. 1999 (as "AlgyFT"). The rest is history.
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I'd make a guess I started a 2 week trial in the summer of 2001 or 2002. I know I went through 2 2 free trials, then went to H2H for 2 years before I went to the MA again and was directed to the BBS by Artlaw. I think I'll stick with the conservative answer of 2002.
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Started AW in '94. Version 1.14 (for DOS). SVGA had just been released but I wasn't using it. The nme planes were still little 'T's which rotated to show their movement relative to you.
As far as I know the only people still playing who I actually flew with then are Phan (Rhino), GE and Fencer.
Trip
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Started 95/96 on AOL Fighter ops then AW all the way to the end then over to AH, and bin there ever since.
Had dropped into WB and WW2OL once or twice but never signed on for any tours with them.
Had several different handles over those times, but couldnt be bothered(or capable) rememberin them though.
Sharrk...
:noid
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sheesh .. hiya Trip :)
Long time dood.
-GE aka Frank
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I think I've been on A/H near 5 yrs...? Started out as "bo-peep",....Then when I seen I wouldnt be the leader of the black sheep,...... I turned to Col Klink. DISSSSSSSSSSmissed.:cool:
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.......one thing this thread proves is that practice does not make perfect :)
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99 :)
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Originally posted by Eagler
.......one thing this thread proves is that practice does not make perfect :)
LOL
Ya got that right
AW in 96 never stopped or improved :rofl
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i started out in AH in tour 52 as USURPER(92 killz 213 deaths) took a short break. came back as INK in tour 67(130 killz 184 deaths)
once i left the BOPS wanted a new name not known as a BOP.
JETSOM it is now.(tour 92 so far 461 killz 321 deaths) im practicing
does this make me a old timer? i dont think so.
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Originally posted by Eagler
.......one thing this thread proves is that practice does not make perfect :)
Yeah, so? :)
AW 96 and still augering em with style and dying at an alarming rate:aok
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off and on since ah1:o
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on and off since the dawn of time :D
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Started in AW on AOL in 95. Always been PH, and always associated with original guys from the 4th Fighter Group. It's like a second marriage :)
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i started in 2000
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Originally posted by Trip01
Started AW in '94. Version 1.14 (for DOS). SVGA had just been released but I wasn't using it. The nme planes were still little 'T's which rotated to show their movement relative to you.
As far as I know the only people still playing who I actually flew with then are Phan (Rhino), GE and Fencer.
Trip
I remember Trip as a classy sort of gentleman guy. GE wasn't classy...but
he was alot of fun, especially in scenarios. I can't say anything about Fencer
cause he's now my boss in the 4th FG :p
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Startet with AH when open beta, stayed when it went gold, but only for the first dozen rounds or so. Yesterday I opened new account here at AH, and had my bellybutton wooped a few times :=) Its really nice to be in full arenas with radio chatter and action everywhere. I dont plan to do more than a few hours a week, and this is just what the doctor ordered.
I startet in mid/early 90s with Overlord, Red Baron and Fighter Ace beta, a few others also that I dont recall.
WarBirds from late 96 I think - played heavily a few years, but faded away around the millenium. I have had my account open there ever since, but cancelled it yesterday. That hurt a bit, but havnt flown there for years. And frankly nothing has happend AFAICS.
Been around WW2 Online and the IL2 series as well.
danish
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Can't edit my previous post, so...just wanted to mention a few of the earliest flight sims I played and liked, way back when (like '84-89?). Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer (played on the original IBM PC, what a dog! Paid $1000 for a used one with RGB monitor in early '87, quickly switched to Amiga). F-15 Strike Eagle for Amiga was pretty good. FA-18 Interceptor for Amiga (with the missions off SF) was enjoyable.
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i r nube.
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Been playing online since AW was free on AOLhell. When AW3 went belly up i happened on aces and found some of the old gang in another squad we used to hang with..Nazgul. So at least 11 ,12 years? sheesh thats a long time,guess i'm an old dude. cheers!
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Upon the "Death" of Air Warrior
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So .. umm ..Biggles:
Are ya good at flight sims?
Useda ask that of new players so they'd get their 'list' off their chest,
..all about how they killed drones over and over..
..then I'd 'Welcome' them to Air Warrior.. this aint no 'flight sim'
-evil grin-
I remember Rino as that F-4 Radar guy :)
I was an F-4 ECM guy for a lotta years
..we mixed like oil an water sorta :)
-GE aka Frank
(Active Jamming: 1ea Mk82 on the 'Dish')
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Originally posted by Grayeagle
Are ya good at flight sims?
Hey! *I'm* good at flight sims! I started playing Lunar Landar in 1968 and almost *never* missed the moon right from the off! Seriously! Ok, sometimes I took damage but that was nothing to the damage the moon took.
I was playing pong back in the seventies. I nailed that bat on the other side of the screen more times than I can count. That handsomehunk kept moving right into my shots!
So now you people better look out! You are not going to know what's hit you!
Trip
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Originally posted by SlapShot
From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
Badboy58
Icer
CHECKERS
Crapgame
DipStick
Drex
Edbert
Grits
Howitzer
Jigsaw
Kwan
lazs
Leviathn
nopoop
Ouch
Pirate
Recon7
Redd
rickt
Wadke
Morpheus
and there are more ... these are just on the current squad roster.
Some make an appearence here and there, but for the most part ... they just don't fly anymore.
I have been around since early '02.
MORPHY STILL FLIES! seen him in the DA other night...missed morphy, glad he's back
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
I've been messing with flying computers since I bought my apple IIe and a sublogic flight simulator. That was an interesting one, bunch of lines and a ton of imagination.
Next was a 386dx PC and red baron and ms flight simulator 4. I bought all those new but don't really remember the years. My first online sim was WarBirds 1.12 if I remember correctly. $2.00 an hour. I couldn't see how HTC could make a profit on just $29.95 a month when they started Aces High. They did though...:D
Word.
Mark
How the heck are ya Mark? Long time since we were chatting at your house in Ft Worth.
I played WB's as AMMOmn with the 332 Mongrels when the squad had a loose consensus to move to AH. I had already played in the beta for a test drive, and was impressed. I can remember everyone from WBs hating the tracers in AH..LOL. Moved over to AH when pay-for-play became active and retired in 2005 (I think).
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July 01 was my 2 weeks here. followed by WBIII beta. Started flying online in 97 with Janes Fighters Anthlogy. R-27 backfires are teh pwnz. Then EAW online in 00. Started flightsims in 92 with Falcon 3.0 and X-wing. played AH from Dec 01-Juli 03, again from Dec 05-Feb 06, spaced in those time killing freetard squeekers in the happily defuct free multiplayer. But now with Red Orchestra. DoDS. LoTR Online and now TF2 coming out and 12 hour workdays and Peak Season coming up I still am coming back to AH2 for a couple sorties a day next month.
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Yo NB, Heater, GE, Brooke, Vortex, WT blast from the ancient past!
Old Aw'r here from circa 1989.
Here's a fond memory for you old farts:
AW-con in Ohio, I walk into the conference area and I got to introduce myself to what appears to be big 'ole country hick who seems real laid-back, in my mind i'm thinking ok, country hick or recovering california beach bum, that is, until I ask, "So what do you do for a living?". Along with the response comes a 180 deg change in demeanor, tone of voice, from beach bum to professional, "I fly high-performance fighter aircraft for the United States Air Force". I remember thinking, damn this dude is crazy...from bum to hitman in .005 seconds.
That 'bum' was Heater :cool:
Reminds me of another Heater related story... He had just recently been transferred to some base in Germany and needed PAL drivers for his Amiga. The telco lines from Colorado to Europe were so poor that we could hardly hear each other let alone get the modems to hookup without massive crc errors. In frustration, Heater says. "let me call ya right back".
A minute or so later, Heater calls back, voice is crystal clear, so clear that if I hadn't known better I would guess that he was talking to me on my other phone in the kitchen! He dials into my modem, PAL Drivers are sent perfectly, im thinking what the hell...
Heater says, "we can thank Uncle Sam for use of the defense satellite communications network for this" LoL.
Think he got in trouble for that one hehe. The things we did for a game :D
--)-B-Man-----
6749
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i just reupped but i haven't seen any other assassins around...
unfortuantely, dont have my name, so ill just fly under a shady alt for now :D
i flew the AH beta, then came back with one of the 'staggered' price plans early after since I couldn't afford the $30/month.
i thought i was around before tour 12, but the tour 1-11 stuff doesnt work for some reason. oh well.
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Hiya Bman!!!!
Glad to see you're still around. I vaguely remember that con...and my $250 phone bill after the weekend. :D
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I srtartedAH in 8/2001 and flew AW beforre that for a few years. Cam over to AH with The *Specialists when EA fubared Aw
no idea on the percent of old timers
<<-- check the registered date
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I did the free AW through AOL in the mid 90s... with a mouse. Then I stumbled on Aces High in an advert in PC Gamer (mag or website, don't remember) just after beta. I flew as 'maz' in Tour 3 and switched to 'octavius' sometime around Tour 12.
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Started in AW on GENIE and flew a couple months. Then picked it up again when AOL had it free. Moved to Gamestorm, then moved to WWiionline when EA stopped AW.
Moved into AH after 2 or 3 months of WWiionline, been here ever since, hardly ever fly anymore though.
Viper
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I started when Air Warrior was free on aol took break after AH was out for few months then got back in last year.
Auld
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Howdy, B-Man!
I sent you a PM on the video you made for the AW convention in LA -- yep, I've still got it and will send you a copy.
I watched that thing so many times. What a great video! :) Many thanks!
There's also a snippet of an interview in it with a P-38 fighter pilot, George Chandler. I got to meet him a couple of months ago in Seattle. Here is one of the several interesting stories he told.
He was based at Munda, flying P-38's. Among others, he participated in the US invasion of Bouganville, flying cover during the invasion.
After the war, he was travelling and was in a hotel lobby waiting around. He saw another guy in the lobby who looked about the right age to have been in WWII and struck up a conversation with the guy, eventually asking him if he had been in the war. The guy said that he had been in the army in the Pacific. George asked him where in the Pacific, and the guy talked about how he had been in some of the island invasions including the one at Bouganville. He went on to talk about it, including the following part.
The guy had been on a troop ship, which was bringing in thousands of troops for the invasion. The ship and its decks were packed with men. As the ship moved in closer to the island, two Zeros with bombs came diving down on the ship. He was on deck and could see the Zeros clearly, diving right on target for the ship. He figured he and the rest of the folks on the ship were doomed when a P-38 came screaming in from nowhere at fantastic speed. It caught each Zero quickly in turn from behind during its dive and blasted both out of the sky before they released their bombs. He said, "I don't know who that guy was in the P-38, but I sure wish I could meet him."
George said, "You just did."
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I started AH tour 35 as Nuke33.. I came over from Warbirds, but before that I played Air Warrior 1 on AOL when it was free..
Does that make me a long-timer? :D
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I have been playing on and off since AH1 beta. Heres a few neat things I remember:
-B17s having no guns.
-The crazy canyon in the original beta map.
-P47s accidentally having 16 guns the first day they were introduced.
-Not being able to figure how to make a GV move forward.
-Thinking how strange and different the flight model of Aces High 2 was.
-Flying in historical events, and being impressed at their magnitude and scale.
But I do get burned out on Aces High relatively easy now. I can't play it for 10 years straight. But its good to start fresh every now and again.
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Tour 68 <=n00b:lol
I just checked my stats from that tour. MAN I sucked!
194 kills to 763 deaths
:cry
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Geez...started Fighter Ops when free on AOL mid 1990's, then AW also free on AOL, followed it when it moved and played it till it died in 2001. Had a couple of handles in these games. Thought the world was determined to stop me playin these games at the time.
:p
Been on AH since 2001 for tour 21-22 I think, change name to "Keyes", then back to Sharrk...
Been on a while now and dont plan on goin anywhere else for a bit :D
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Haha, no doubt, NB, was good times!
Brooke, that's awesome, thanks much for sending me a copy!! Thought that vid was longgg gone.
That's an awesome story. I think I recall who you are talking about, is George Chandler the one in the video who talks about racing to get his plane back in fighting trim after getting jumped, not being quick enough, losing some wingmen & getting choked-up? I remember getting teary-eyed watching it.
--)-B-Man-----
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Not to be confused with 'Grits' (I'm prettier).
Started with Air Warrior on AOL in '96. Was pretty much there for the duration. Made the move to Aces High when it first came out, but have battled with MMO addiction off and on since then. Came back last month (free) after many years away from the stick, and pretty much got my bellybutton shot off non-stop (and had a blast!). Hoping to resubscribe in the coming weeks/months, and maybe even eventually stop padding so many peoples scores.
Have many many fond memories of my brothers from The 33rd Strike Group and our longtime rivals; Shillelagh Squadron ("The Shills!") from Air Warrior. Man, those were the days.
heh, I also always get a chuckle thinkin' back to the Air Warrior Pac FR arena, when I finally took the training wheels off, and how many endless endless times The Musketeers kicked my Pony flyin' can up and down that place (particularly Dragon and Rapier). But it was great! Man, I learned alot from those guys. Wherever you are.
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Been on AH since 2002, tour 25 first ID: Javier changed ID to 201Javie, 201AJGD and can't remember the other 2, now Vadjan
I have been here for a good time and plan to stay more. ^^
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Originally posted by b-man
That's an awesome story. I think I recall who you are talking about, is George Chandler the one in the video who talks about racing to get his plane back in fighting trim . . . .
Yep, that's George Chandler. The plane was one of the bombers in the group that his squadron was escorting.
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Been interested in aviation every since I can remember. Flew in a PBY and float planes in Alaska. My childhood interest in aviation turned into a career as an adult.
Started flying sims with my first computer a comodore 64. My first online flight experiance was with the original airwarrior. Only logged on like twice maybe 3 times.
That was in the early ninety's. Got addicted to Red Baron, the original. Offline at first then online. AW on AOL around 94. Played all AW versions until it died. Tried AH, Warbirds didn't like either one. Took a break for a few years.
Started flying again earlier in the year on Warbirds. Still didn't like it. At suggestion of Alskn I tried AH. Even though my skills have deteriorated I like it. So you all stuck with me!:O :cool:
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Alskahawk, AH is pretty fun for us former Air Warriors. The gunnery takes a while to get used to (as it is more realistic), but you'll get the hang of the rest of it quickly enough. I think you'll like it!
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Ya, I like this better than I have any game since Airwarrior. Has lot of the same attributes that airwarrior had. Good community, challenging yet achievable learning curve. Fly relaxed realism with stall limiter on or move up to full realism, all in same arena.
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I started out in Fighter Ops (warbirds light) back in -95. Went on to Dawn of Aces and finally Aces High during beta tests. Been around ever since then on and off. As for the longtimers... 20% maybe...
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a bunch of Amiga sims (JimmyC will remember ;) ) and then on Mac:
91 Hellcats Over The Pacific - great fun
93 FA-18 Hornet - head to head games over a modem link, how cool was that! learnt missile defence (also works well against 262s :D )
94 Flying Nightmares - my fav offline sim: Harriers, Carriers & pure class :aok
then didnt touch a joystick until AHII tour 91 :cool:
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Well I started with this flight sim in the late 99's. I've flown untill 2007 (or was it 2006?) untill the H2H came offline.
A pity really, I had some good times playing AH! Almost 8 years of fun down the drain...
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Originally posted by alskahawk
Been interested in aviation every since I can remember. Flew in a PBY and float planes in Alaska. My childhood interest in aviation turned into a career as an adult.
Started flying sims with my first computer a comodore 64. My first online flight experiance was with the original airwarrior. Only logged on like twice maybe 3 times.
That was in the early ninety's. Got addicted to Red Baron, the original. Offline at first then online. AW on AOL around 94. Played all AW versions until it died. Tried AH, Warbirds didn't like either one. Took a break for a few years.
Started flying again earlier in the year on Warbirds. Still didn't like it. At suggestion of Alskn I tried AH. Even though my skills have deteriorated I like it. So you all stuck with me!:O :cool:
I have a squadie that is located in Alaska and flys planes as well. i think pond hoppers or something like that.
we have three members from Alaska.
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I started playing Warbirds back in 1998; got the disk in a box with a joystick I bought for another game. Us Avengers just made the move over to our new home a couple of months ago after almost 10 years in the same sim. The pain and suffering of being a noobie again would be unbarable if not offset by the amount of fun we are having learning a new game.
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Air Warrior for Windows on AOL, I think 1995 or 96. Came here when AW shut down.
Although I hardly ever fly anymore. Just a few times the last 9 months.
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Played AW 3 , AW MV ..till 12/7/01 . I was on AW the last night, when EA litterly pulled the plug on us, and shut it down .... (I'm still pissed at EA . )
I belonged to two squads in AW , my CPID was Chkrs I was in `CUCAS SQUAD` and later was with the SeaSerpents . After AW was shut down, The SeaSerpents screwed around and tried WB's for a short while, then we came to AcesHigh . The SeaSerpents CO was HG . There were a lot of killers in The SeaSerpents , ADIOS, Jug, Freeway to name a few ....
After a while , The SeaSerpents faded away . About a year or so later I got an invite to the +++The Blue Knights+++ . I played AH1 alot, untill HTC shut down AH1 . ....
I play AH2 once in a while , but for the most part AH2 just dosen't hold my interest like AH1 did .......
Bob/CHECKERS
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Originally posted by frank3
Well I started with this flight sim in the late 99's. I've flown untill 2007 (or was it 2006?) untill the H2H came offline.
A pity really, I had some good times playing AH! Almost 8 years of fun down the drain...
Dan neem je toch een betaalde account a $15/m (is gunstig met de huidige dollar koers), daarmee doe je ook wat terug voor HTC ;)
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Started flight sims before I hit puberty. Top Gun and Chuck Yagers Flight Sim for the Tandy 1000, big old flat floppy along w/ BC's Quest for Tires. 1st Multi-player, old AW on AOL, maybe 96 or 97, can't remember. Just remember my AOL bill around $300. Went onto AW on EA. Then came to AH in 01 I think.
<---- been on the boards since whatever that says
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Spitfire 64 and Dambusters on Commodore 64.
First 1 vs 1 on early PC playing Falcon 1.0 against a friend in computer class.
All the major air combat sims after that.
First 1vs1 through internet in EAW, some ROCAF dude handed me my bellybutton a few times so i decided that I still have lots to learn (still do).
A friend tried to get me to play Warbirds in y2k but I was not interested enough then.
AH was the first pay to play online sim for me.
-C+
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
First this isn't meant to be a punt, just a final analysis on this thread after giving it plenty of time to be responded to.
We had 104 responses. To make it easier I'll use 100 to eliminate a couple of duplicate entries.
If we assume there are somewhere just over 6000 people in the AH universe (probably a little low but close enough based on the lowest ranks seen in the arenas) and that 5% make up the vocal majority of the AH community that visit the BBs (according to many posts I've read) then there are 300 BBs users. If we further assume that the BBs users represent a cross-section of the AH player base (a big assumption), then 1/3 of all players are "long-timers".
Lower than my initial 50% estimate and probably actually closer to 25% due to assumptions but still a substantial number.
Of course this isn't scientific by any means but should be directionally correct.
Time to recalculate this thing I think.
We are now at 237 posts. I'll reduce that by 20% for duplicates and noob contributions. Using the other assumptionas above we are now closing in on 2/3 of all AH players being "long-timers", now over my original estimate.
Even at a 25% reduction the total is still almost 60%!
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I started playing Warbirds in -95. Moved over to AH the first day of the open beta so I've been here since Beta tour one.
Long timers are far far fewer then half the player base I think.
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Started back in 2/2001. Left and come back a number of times due to time constraints. Just finished my M.B.A. so hopefully won't be leaving again anytime soon! Started again about 2 weeks ago after a nearly 2 year break. ACM is coming back quickly enough, my aim on the other hand seems to be carrying most of the rust...
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Originally posted by NHattila
Started back in 2/2001. Left and come back a number of times due to time constraints. Just finished my M.B.A. so hopefully won't be leaving again anytime soon! Started again about 2 weeks ago after a nearly 2 year break. ACM is coming back quickly enough, my aim on the other hand seems to be carrying most of the rust...
Yup. My aim was incredibly off as well. Do yourself a favor and find a friend who's willing to be target practice for you in the TA. Get a feel for the gunnery as it's changed big time since we've last flown.
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I just turned my tracers off for the first week. Seems to be coming back at a steady pace. Zaaaa
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Been flying flight sims, regularly, since mid to late 95 :)
And, I am still a crappy pilot and can't shoot for >>>>:lol
Although, I am getting pretty good at bombing tanks and such with a P38 :)
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Started in Air Warrior 3 in 98 played slightly over 3 years there until EA (Electronic Aholes) killed it in Nov of 2001. Then took about 3 months before the DT's got the better of me and I showed up here in late Feb 02 (tour 25) as SHawk6 in those days.:aok
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Great to see some old friends on here. XR, JAG18, Filth and others.
My largest bill was over $1500 playing Nascar on TNT I think. :rofl
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I started playing AH in 99, before that I played AW1,2 & 3 with the 327th.
AKWoodee
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Fighter Ace 98-99 as "Bustergrn"
Played "Daddy with two kids and two jobs" from 99 to 2003
Rouge Spear/Ghost Recon 2003-2005
AHII 2005-present
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Originally posted by SlapShot
From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
Badboy58
Icer
CHECKERS
Crapgame
DipStick
Drex
Edbert
Grits
Howitzer
Jigsaw
Kwan
lazs
Leviathn
nopoop
Ouch
Pirate
Recon7
Redd
rickt
Wadke
Morpheus
Wow, I remember the names- flew with/against many of them. Been around AH since 2000 best I can recall. Don't know what tour that would be.
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Oh, one more thing.
OU sucks Repo, you need a new avatar thingie. I'm embarrassed to have posted under that.
Hook 'em Horns!
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1993, Air Warrior on Delphi.
Came aboard here around tour 33.
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Been around since Warbirds 1.x. Don't remember the year exactly. Flew with VMF-257 "Wildbunch", then the Pale Horses. Took a LONG break, came back to Warbirds then switched to Aces High. Flew with a few different squads mostly Gold. Currently away from the game but look forward to coming back soon.
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Hi All!
Was in AW starting oh, 1991 or 1992, flying with the --)-Musketeers---, Bman, Athos, and those folks. Tail number was 3198. Went through the Genie days and then the AOL glory days (ton o'baby seals days). Watched the game transition from half time, to real time and then full real physics in real time. We went from 300 baud modems to DSL.
Did the AW Training thing where we got comped free days, when the game was $6 an hour. When you got a free day you played 24 hours straight. Made you get good fast :).
Went to work for MS and helped design Fighter Ace 2.0 and 3.0 and did some stuff on Combat Flight Sim.
In 15 years or so, I've only flown with one squad and only under one basic handle, Rapier.
Started flying AH about 6 months ago and I'm enjoying it a lot.
Great to be here and nice to see all the old timers still about :).
Thanks!
--)-Rapier---
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Great to see you, Rapier!
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Originally posted by Slash27
<-----noob
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Originally posted by TheRapier
Hi All!
Great to be here and nice to see all the old timers still about :).
Thanks!
--)-Rapier---
Hiya Rap....
Glad to see you made it. :)
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Started in AH 2001 Tour 18, never played AW. Stopped around 2004 for a long break due to work and moving. Returned again just a couple months ago.
...-Gixer
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Air Warrior 1996, been a Cutthroat for 11 years next month. Cutts are nearly 12 years old. Was Closed Beta Tester for Air Warrior III-only claim to fame.
Almost been here before the boards! :O Actually flew the Open Beta in August-I recall-of 1999. We had 4 or 5 planes, 1 map, and 100 players could log in. (if memory serves me correctly) Since then, there were clouds, rain, lightning, night.... :) and a number of things I can't recall. Not 100% sure about the rain either.
HiTech was showing it to Bob Shaw at the Air Warrior CON in 1999. Mr Shaw flew the P-51 and was impressed with the instruments and general play. I was standing over his shoulder watching him, in amazement that I was seeing this new sim and Mr Shaw up close and personal.
Within 2 weeks (that I knew of it) Dale (HT) had it online, the total download was about 10MB. Playability was smooothe! It took me 2 weeks to learn the flight model and even be able to takeoff and land with relative success.
We went for several months in the open beta for free! No Charge. The first growing pains were evident and we were happy-even pleased that it cost $30 a month to fly this new sim. It kept many undesirable folks out-who didn't have the $$ to play and it was light years away from EA and Air Warrior or for that matter, War Birds.
I have been a Rook the entire time too. (except for Scenarios or SEA events)
I'd love to see the night addressed again, as in, another arena-like Late War Night or whatever, where we got 3 hours day, 1 hour night. Since the shift to multiple arenas, I think it's doable and might be worthy of another look. We sure had people talking it up on Christmas Eve! :)
Thank you HiTech and team for making the last 8 years enjoyable. May the New Year bring many more to come.
K-KEN
http://www.cutthroats.com
High Flight (http://www.kkenshome.com/media/highflight.wmv) | Tequila Benefits (http://www.kkenshome.com/media/Alcohol_Warning.mp3)
http://www.look-at-ewe.com
P.S. ..and can I get my posts count issue addressed? :) Always resets back to 199 or 200 or some such...I must be corrupt or something!
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Heyas Rap!, the Musketeer horde is back hehe, er on the boards anyway :)
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Originally posted by Grayeagle
So .. umm ..Biggles:
Are ya good at flight sims?
Useda ask that of new players so they'd get their 'list' off their chest,
..all about how they killed drones over and over..
..then I'd 'Welcome' them to Air Warrior.. this aint no 'flight sim'
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I remember Rino as that F-4 Radar guy :)
I was an F-4 ECM guy for a lotta years
..we mixed like oil an water sorta :)
-GE aka Frank
(Active Jamming: 1ea Mk82 on the 'Dish')
Gebbus! It's Nurse Jane Fuzzy Wuzzy!
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Was an AW noob-started in 95. Alpha tested,beta tested this one. Come around every once in awhile-especially if I hear about these threads. I hope to get the "urge" back one of these days and dust off the SW Precision Pro and take my usual virtual thrashings.
Wow, lots of handles I had forgotten about in this thread.
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From my billing history, 2001, but i think i was here under a similar name earlier than that.
The funny thing is, i was just in late war blue, and got accused of spying and being a newb (as it was my first sortie this tour), i still fly like a newb, so that didn't upset me, but being accused of spying really pi$$ed me off!!
Ah well, you can find ignoramuses everywhere i guess.
Steely
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Originally posted by SHawk
Started in Air Warrior 3 in 98 played slightly over 3 years there until EA (Electronic Aholes) killed it in Nov of 2001. Then took about 3 months before the DT's got the better of me and I showed up here in late Feb 02 (tour 25) as SHawk6 in those days.:aok
Don't lie to us SHawk ~ we all know you're a total noob! :)
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I've been geeking sims for about 10 years. Been an AK for about 9 when I joined them in Flying Circus WWI sim. A school project built by an AK I believe.
Been in AH a long time taking a break for a few years when a number of AK's started geeking on another game, yes the silly game called WOW. A very large group play there now, another 50+ members.
Note: Too anyone that remembers AKCurly, he says hello and he can't believe I've been geeking in a P51B :P
Still have my AH beta CD that they mailed out way back in the beginning :) Note: You could shoot the sheep back then! Boy sheep have come a long way. Bloody tank killers now :)
Leadbutt
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Originally posted by SlapShot
From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
I play...some...
Since AH hasn't been out that long you can't be an oldtimer if you were not on the beta.
Other than AH, I'd say if you started online after about 1995 you cannot be a real oldtimer, there's a period until about 1998 when you get to claim some of that though. I started online with this stuff when WB 1.0 came out, think that was late 95 or early 96, of course there had been an oline community in AW for some time back then. I tried an early AW and did not like it much.
Offline my first sim was F15 Strike Eagle on a 5.25 "diskette", think that was 1987 or so. First one I put tons of time into was Battlehawks-1942.
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October, 1988 GEnie - I was lucky to have come in the last campaign or two of the Tunnel of Death terrain (no water); I remember blood piggin' (NB?)
Break 1990-1997, returned to AW in AOL in '97, rescued by the Damned (praised be their Name) , then Gamestorm. through Death of AW in 12/07/2001.
AH through several breaks, currently on dry spell while modelling for FS-X
Damned Felix/FJR Neshr ...
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I started in the AOHell days, but didn't really play much until Gamestorm. I quit a bit before AW was shut down, and switched over to here then.
Offline, I started with SWoTL. ;)
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"...lots of handles I had forgotten about..." - Xanax
Just blame it on the medication ;)
-Me
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I played AW when it was $3.00 an hour, and I joined AH1 back in tour 40, and have flown since then under several aliases.
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Originally posted by Husky01
Im a newb. Tour 69 here.
69 as well.
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Beta tour 1 and still around.
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Puttin' in a hat-tip to y'all cuz K-k-k-k-ken gave a bunch of us the headzup over on a newsgroup ... former AW ACCS member since around what, 1994, 1995? unsure there. Tried AH a couple of times, never really had the machine to keep up with stuff anymore. Until next month anyways.
Looking forward to flying the unfriendly skies once again very soon.
Gnatz
No, I'm not a drone. Sheesh.
Originally posted by K-KEN
Air Warrior 1996, been a Cutthroat for 11 years next month. Cutts are nearly 12 years old. Was Closed Beta Tester for Air Warrior III-only claim to fame.
K-KEN
http://www.cutthroats.com
High Flight (http://www.kkenshome.com/media/highflight.wmv) | Tequila Benefits (http://www.kkenshome.com/media/Alcohol_Warning.mp3)
http://www.look-at-ewe.com
P.S. ..and can I get my posts count issue addressed? :) Always resets back to 199 or 200 or some such...I must be corrupt or something!
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I started with the old original AW DOS version, I can't remember my tail number, 18 hundred something I think. Did my thing in AW till it died at AOL. Joined AH a couple of years ago and flew for about a year & half, part of that with Boozer and the crowd over at the 4th Fighter Group. I've been out of it for about a year and just signed back up. I've always sucked as a fighter pilot and now I'm really bad :D :lol
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I responded to a post by Guppy35 in another thread where he stated:
My guess is at least half the player base are what I'll refer to as "long-timers". This is nothing against Guppy35 in any way but it made me curious. How many ARE "long-timers".
Since Tour 12 ended 1/31/01 then tour 1 must have ended on 2/28/00. Since the first tours were beta and other sim's were still alive then lets use tour 12 as the beginning so the question is, how many have played flight sims since 1/1/01 or earlier.
Please post only once so we get a good count. Include your starting date as closely as you remember it, the sim you started in, and your guess as to the percent of long-time players in AHII.
I started in '96 in Air Warrior and my guess at long-timers is half the player base.
Same here. I was Corsr (for Corsair) and in AW. RR/FRPAC mostly.
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Originally posted by Alky
I started with the old original AW DOS version, I can't remember my tail number, 18 hundred something I think. Did my thing in AW till it died at AOL. Joined AH a couple of years ago and flew for about a year & half, part of that with Boozer and the crowd over at the 4th Fighter Group. I've been out of it for about a year and just signed back up. I've always sucked as a fighter pilot and now I'm really bad :D :lol
Hey....get yer butt back over to the 4th, Alky! :)
Check in at http://4thfg.org/phpBB2/index.php
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Started in Fighter Ace then to AW untill it went belly up then to AH sometime after the 30 a month was gone...that was a lot of money to play a game...have come and gone over the years with different ID's.... been fun...still is!
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AW 95. Then fought xbrit and been chasing his arse ever since. Spit dweeb :D
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^ He still can't catch me !!
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I started off playing AW when I was 14ish years old. Im 20 now...
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Started online with Fighter Ace on the Zone around 96 but long before that had Yeager on pc and in 1991 had Falcon 3, been here since 13 or 14 (on a self imposed break ATM )
(http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/ss/6179_0.png) (http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/ss/6179_0.jpg) :D
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AW 1987 ... thirty freakin' years ... glad I've more or less outgrown it. Kinda.
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Heh ... got to lookin' and discovered I did somehow manage to score a few kills back during (ahem) Beta Tour 1, in addition to repeated horrible flaming deaths in a 109.
kewl
Originally posted by Gnatz
Puttin' in a hat-tip to y'all cuz K-k-k-k-ken gave a bunch of us the headzup over on a newsgroup ... former AW ACCS member since around what, 1994, 1995? unsure there. Tried AH a couple of times, never really had the machine to keep up with stuff anymore. Until next month anyways.
Looking forward to flying the unfriendly skies once again very soon.
Gnatz
No, I'm not a drone. Sheesh.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
AW 1987 ... thirty freakin' years ... glad I've more or less outgrown it. Kinda.
I have an AW manual from the boxed game that has quotes from you and several other long-timers in it.
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about 5 years on AH
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
AW 1987 ... thirty freakin' years ... glad I've more or less outgrown it. Kinda.
Being old is not an excuse to be poor at math though :D
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Originally posted by Edbert
Being old is not an excuse to be poor at math though :D
:rofl He'll tell ya that it FEELS like 30 years because his 10 years of dealing with Kesmai aged him 20 years!
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Haven't been here long, comparatively speaking. This coming summer will be 4 years.
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
AW 1987 ... thirty freakin' years ... glad I've more or less outgrown it. Kinda.
No way. If there are occasional WWII vets who play (and there are), you've got 40 more years to go before you can outgrow it. :)
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Originally posted by alskahawk
Fly relaxed realism with stall limiter on or move up to full realism
I wouldn't. No, I mean that in the most earnest manner possible. Stall limiter is not "RR" like AW had. It doesn't change the flight model at all, it simply limits your perceptions of the flight model, and then limits your input into that flight model, to avoid stalling.
The end result? It might seem easier, but you're literally being handicapped compared to everybody else.
Bite the bullet. Learn how to fly without stall limiter. You WILL be better off without it. I've seen many pilots that develop that crutch, but have such a hard time turning it off after years of use.
Just avoid stall limiter always, and the curve might be a LITTLE more steep, but you will be better off for it in so many ways.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Started in 92 RedBaron I DOS. Been here over 5 years, took a 6 month vacation for reasons stated elsewhere.
wow i was born in 92
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Originally posted by splitatom
wow i was born in 92
No way
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5 years or so. since AH1
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Originally posted by Shaky
:rofl He'll tell ya that it FEELS like 30 years because his 10 years of dealing with Kesmai aged him 20 years!
Bugger. Yeah - paying $6/hr aged me a decade thats for sure (and it went UP from $5 to $6, mind you).
Still twenty years of anything is a scary proposition. That's twice as long as most marriages last.
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You paid $6/hr. But I had no local number for the POP so I paid $6/hr for the game and about another $6/hr for long distance charges. Now that hurt.
Good to "see" you Dok.
715
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i played when ya werent called a fn noob for dropping troops on the field :noid
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6dollars an hour caused wifeack to go insane. I played about 5 weeks AW DOS and left in 1991 . I came back again later, couple years if I remember correctly and it was somewhat cheaper as I recall. The first Handle I had was Moxie. Can't for the life of me remember what tail numbers were.
Guess wasn't important enuff at that time. Switched to AOL AW4W in 95.
Left AOL Hell when they started charging and went to Kesmai again.
In late 99 dloaded AH and played around offline a little. Then in 2000 played both AW and AH. May of 2000 (I think) left AW and stayed exclusively with Aces High.
Now....where do I live and what's my name???
Memory fades with age:huh
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Originally posted by Hajo
6dollars an hour caused wifeack to go insane. I played about 5 weeks AW DOS and left in 1991 . I came back again later, couple years if I remember correctly and it was somewhat cheaper as I recall. The first Handle I had was Moxie. Can't for the life of me remember what tail numbers were.
Guess wasn't important enuff at that time. Switched to AOL AW4W in 95.
Left AOL Hell when they started charging and went to Kesmai again.
In late 99 dloaded AH and played around offline a little. Then in 2000 played both AW and AH. May of 2000 (I think) left AW and stayed exclusively with Aces High.
Now....where do I live and what's my name???
Memory fades with age:huh
Were you still Moxie in AW in '96? If so, I HATED running into you :)
I was ^Crsh.
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I remember some of my bills getting above $300 for AW, I know that is nothing compaired to some of the other AW vets bills. I wonder where all that money went because that was some big money billed each month?
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I had a WarBirds bill top $250 one month, you're welcome Dale!
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AW since dec 98 here since Tour 19
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I have been here since December 2001. Was previously with Air Warriors.
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Started playing AW in 96 on AOL for free. Was a member of the Vulching Clowns, We achieved a #1 fighter ranking. Probably the best and funniest squad I ever flew with.
Then flew with the Amigos (and that was a horrible mistake), and later with (won't mention name) The dumbest squad ever created under virtual skies. They split, one went to WWII online and the other went to AH. Then flew with (Won't mention name) the second dumbest squad ever created under virtual skies. (Doesn't speak well of me does it LOL) Then flew with the Air Mafia, a pretty decent squad. They still have Rusty007 and you have to like that guy. Then flew with what use to be one of greatest squads (Won't mention name), but there goals and my goals changed. Now I'm with the Rolling Thunder and I think we are on the same page. You have to think well of Falcon and Dadsguns and Allen and many more.
So yeah, I've been around. I still remember Bama, probably the best ever fighter in AW. Every now and then I will see Bowhunt up and I think that is Bama. My favorite wingy will always be RP626. We really use to go at it when he was on the wrong side. hehehe
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Originally posted by splitatom
wow i was born in 92
lol - this was a diet pepsi snort out the nose laff for me
Reminded me immediately of me and a couple people at work one day talking about the 1967 snowstorm in Chicago as kids - jumping off roofs into snow piles and buses buried to the roof in snow - saw a blank look on a secretaries face and said whats up - she said - i was born in 1974 - the look on everyones face that was talking was classic - the oh my god - i'm an old fart look was priceless - i'm sure mine was the same - i still laff about it
AW aol - hourly rate couple months - then aol free - then gamestorm until end - then here.
Not saying how many years
Just a lot of wife ack - and her constant comment - i guess you could be sitting in a bar instead :)
NwBie
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Started in Air Warrior when it was 2D AOL for free, Then we went to Game Storm after AOL started charging $1.99 an hour to fly. I flew the Pacific Arena Relaxed Realizm then joined the 81st Krewsadez as an Az in the European Arena RR, We killed the Bz's all the time! :)
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Started here Beta,love it, enjoy the chatter but dont have much time to fly:(
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Originally posted by Edbert
I had a WarBirds bill top $250 one month, you're welcome Dale!
add another "0" to that and it would match a few Genie/AW bills
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In 1984, I bought my first PC - the Commodore 64 - because Sublogic had just released a version of Microsoft Flight Simulator for it. Up to that point, I'd been limited to playing a Star-Trek port on a local University's mainframe - when I could wrangle a friend who worked in the data center out of some computer time!
I played various offline sims on and off for about a decade, but eventually tired of civilian flight simulators. In 1997 I bought a new computer, and the "Flying Corps" air combat game, but the new system also came with a copy of Interactive Magic's "WarBirds" on one of the demo disks. I played that offline for about a thousand hours (not exaggerating, or if so, at least not too much) over the next 2 years, and then signed up for online play finally in late 1999 or early 2000, after joining a WarBirds-based squadron. I flew WB's for a number of years and thousands of dollars, became active in a Corsair oriented squadron and as one of the original Beta-testers of WarBirds III, but grew disillusioned watching my fellow squadmates growing frustrated with the Jay Littman/Hotseat era of development (and all that that implies) and after the last of my squad stopped flying in WarBirds, I switched to WWIIOL.
I flew there for about a year, and then spent most of another year waiting for some fix for some (any!) of the shortcomings of that environment from an air to air perspective, and finally "gave up" and signed up for Aces High at the end of 2006.
P.S. Old timer and senile to boot - I already posted once and forgot!
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I started in 2000 with the flight simulator 98 and since then got many more.
Ive been with Aces High 2 for about a year and a half so..... ya.......:noid :noid
I might swich over to wwiionline all of my buddies are over their and i might as well. :aok
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Hey everybody. This is my 1st post. I was watching the Military channel tonight and saw the Aces High commercial and saw wow, that looks like Air Warrior. So I checked out the website which led me here and then to this specific thread. How apropos it is that this is a post on Aces high’s forum. I started Playing AW in 95 on AOL then went to Gamestorm & EA where it died. I played until 2000/2001 I guess. I didn’t know there was still an active community going. I haven’t played in forever. I recognize some of the names especially the BK’s. Are the Nomads still around? Man, it is great to see that communities like this are still around! How is Aces High as a game?? :aok
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im on my 4th year :D
o, and, AH-2 IS THE BEST ONLINE Flight SIM THERE IS!
-BigBOBCH
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Ok, I just realized there were 13 pages of posts...so I went back and checked out all the posters. These are the ones I remember. Sorry for the length of this post. so much time has passed and I have a lot of catching up to do it appears.
Icer
Leviathn
Ouch (but wasnt there an ! on there?)
Recon7
rickt
Murdr
Zazen
Guppy35 (didnt you fly 35k spits?)
sax
hajo
Freez
Grits (NASTY 38 SKILLS)
Hadez (Are you still in San Diego?)
Frdo
Firbal
Hammer (I remember the GHOSTS)
Oldmn / Oldman (Damn we had some good fights!)
Buzzrd
JG26 (then all the JG groups)
Fubar
PK1
JAG44 (and most of the others)
Brooke (loved your chats! we actually chatted on the phone for an hour once about ACM's and the best books & I still have Robert Shaws book)
Balzy/Balsy?
Gunns (also Gunnz?)
Snail
Corrs
BADR
My handle was Sexy (long story) and I was a --(/\)IDOW(\/)AKER-- with Odbal, Rnmain and tons others.
I also still have my old CH Pro throttle & pedals but they are analog lol will they still work?
Raven3353, how did you get those old scores??
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Elitesrule, the game itself is far advanced from what you remember. It's Xtreme FR, vastly improved graphics, flight models, etc.
You analog stuff will still work as long as it works with your computer.
Come join us but expect to have to re-learn a few things.
BTW, you might also want to check out this (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128754&highlight=Warriors) thread (Are there any old Air Warriors out there?)
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Started FS'ing around 1991-92 when I got into DOS Aces of Pacific, AOEurope, Red Baron...(256 Colors! Woohoo!). Anybody remember the very gamey Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?? Played that too and had just about every expansion pack for that.
Got into Air Warrior 2 in the mid-90's and as my first attempt at online multiplayer flight sim/game. Stayed on a couple years maybe but was never really hardcore.
Joined up with AH in July 2003 and quietly been here ever since. The first month I played with keyboard and touchpad on my laptop before I finally sprung for a joystick. My old thrustmaster had long since been dead. Never any doubt in my mind that I'd continue after the 2 week free trial though...I was hooked the first day in. I come and go now, so I'm not online a lot, but I do fly offline quite a bit still. Love it, game or sim, whatever.
Hack9
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Originally posted by Hack9
...Anybody remember the very gamey Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?? ...
Ah yes, SWOTL. I loved that game! That one stayed on my computer longer than any of the boxed games. I remember trying to reproduce the bombing mission from the movie "Memphis Belle" in SWOTL. I agree, gamey, but I absolutely loved that game. What was that, 1993 or something like that?
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Thanks BaldEagle!
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Started my first flight sim in 1982, - psion flight simulater on a Sinclair ZX81.
I later modded it to be a blind-flying bombing simulator.
First time H2H was in 1984, 2xSinclair Spectrums and a programme called Delta Wing. Hacked into it to work with a microdrive to load, so you could start the game on both computers in just 13 seconds. Modem was calld RS232.
First time online properly was MS-CFS Warbirds, then Airwarrior, then Dawn of Aces, then AH. That was in 2000.
Tried some other stuff later, noteably Il-2, but got stuck with AH. The best :aok
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I HAVE NO IDEA THE EXACT DATE THINK 01 SOMETIME
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Originally posted by tatertot
I HAVE NO IDEA THE EXACT DATE THINK 01 SOMETIME
less drinking might clear up that haze :D
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Ok, I just realized there were 13 pages of posts...so I went back and checked out all the posters. These are the ones I remember. Brooke (loved your chats! we actually chatted on the phone for an hour once about ACM's and the best books & I still have Robert Shaws book)
Howdy! I haven't kept up with this topic for a while, so I don't know if you are still reading this, but I hope you are around and tried out the game. Aces High is great fun, and there are lots and lots of former AW folks here as you found. I think you'd love it. It does take a while to get your gunnery skills back up and going from the AW days. You'll get your ACM back pretty quick -- it's just the aiming that takes longer. :)
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ZOMG ZOMBIE!!!!!
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Started around March 1988 in Air Warrior til it died. Here ever since though inactive at the moment. Here are some old scores:
Teams as of 13:07EST 03/03/88
Score Team Name
1063520 5940 The Bastard Squad
876908 6437 Flying Circus
319891 5592 SPIT'n'FIRE!
66915 765 Squadron 765
51970 1774 The MOD SQUAD
42822 5327 Squadron 5327
27622 4220 Cutters 4220
23917 4433 Spanky's Raiders
9546 373 Black Sheep
8938 1188 Squad 1!
4458 933 Birds of Prey
2503 4586 Squadron 4586
1408 3750 Flak Bait
850 3276 Squadron 3276
846 5738 Top Gunners
43 4823 Squadron 4823
6 4726 Squadron 4726
5 4624 Squadron 4624
5 683 Squadron 683
Aces as of 13:04EST 03/03/88
Rank Kills Country Ship Handle
1 20 A 523 RamBone
2 18 A 4064 Airmigan
3 18 C 3741 Cap'n Trips
4 18 C 1176 NICK BIGROD
5 17 B 6437 Group Captain Biggles FC
6 16 A 4803 Pan
7 15 B 5717 ShoeString FC
8 15 A 715 715
9 12 B 3584 Wolf
10 11 C 4967 Nester
11 10 B 6918 Baron Von
12 10 B 6443 -Pax-
13 10 C 6000 The Major
14 10 C 4692 =MAX=
15 10 A 4495 LongHorn
16 10 C 4278 TEBear
17 10 A 2111 BUDMAN
18 10 B 1442 Lt. Zeque FC
19 9 B 3881 Spahzz
20 9 B 3799 TANGO CIRCUS
21 9 C 2515 Y-Death
22 8 C 6730 Reginald
23 8 C 5940 Doktor Gonzo
24 8 A 5568 spook
25 8 C 5184 Veg-O-Matic
26 8 B 4068 Lt. ROOKIE
27 8 C 2169 SSR
28 8 A 70 JWJr
29 7 A 5875 Falcon
30 7 C 5186 Flush Garden
31 7 A 4855 PLASMA
32 7 B 3619 Uno
33 7 A 3400 Quagmire
34 7 C 1817 Flying "V"
35 6 B 6737 Maj. Rookie FC
36 6 B 6335 Skipper
37 6 A 4686 Boomslang
38 6 A 3914 RENEGADE
39 6 B 292 Ridge Runner FC
40 6 C 4 Glideslope
41 5 A 5904 Texas
42 5 A 5327 Tex
43 5 B 5151 skymaster FC
44 5 B 3046 Lord Kalvan
45 5 B 2820 Random
46 5 A 2133 Eddie
47 5 A 765 DB
48 4 A 6986 Laz
49 4 A 6667 Last Dance
50 4 B 5742 CRUSHER
51 4 A 5592 Squad Leader Timo
52 4 A 5466 intruder
53 4 B 4248 Trinity
54 4 C 4121 BONES
55 4 A 3382 dah
56 4 A 2351 Ajax
57 4 C 1774 Spaceman Spiff FC
58 4 C 1735 Panama Jon
59 4 B 1682 Pvt Hugmuk
60 4 A 262 Hoser
61 4 C 254 Death
62 3 B 6854 MG.BLADE
63 3 B 6783 mutton
64 3 B 6756 BARNEY
65 3 B 6434 Sakai
66 3 C 6431 Lord Baltimore
67 3 B 6185 Purple Worm
68 3 B 6119 Capt. Kirk
69 3 A 5748 GS
70 3 B 5716 butch
71 3 A 4531 THOTH
72 3 B 4458 OLD SMOKEY FC
73 3 B 4194 Sidewinder
74 3 A 4082 BULLIT
75 3 A 3966 Auger
76 3 A 3668 Clark Kent
77 3 B 3237 Petie II FC
78 3 B 2842 Sky Diver
79 3 A 2654 Split-S
80 3 A 2371 gdp
81 3 B 2362 LT-5
82 3 A 2094 Lambda
83 3 C 1755 Glutton
84 3 B 1301 Baron Von Richthofen
85 3 B 840 GRIMM REAPER FC
86 3 C 689 Ice Man
87 3 C 599 Lord Bill
88 3 C 487 Dr.Smith
89 3 B 19 Techrat
90 2 B 6743 ROD
91 2 C 6282 Riddler
92 2 A 6192 lazer
93 2 C 6096 Voyger
94 2 C 5760 Flash2
95 2 A 5682 Gunner
96 2 A 5542 G.P. SUYA
97 2 C 5480 RAF
98 2 A 5361 Runnin Scared
99 2 A 5007 Illwind
100 2 C 4959 Dr. Rocket
Some old handles right thar.
LongHorn #4495
Where the hell did Bigweek go?
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Horn....
Hehe, I recognize too many of those names. That was back in the days when Kelton still played. Heck, I just saw Airmigan 2 weeks ago. BTW, he is planning to come to the convention.
You should ramp it up. It's gettin' lonely round here.:)
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air warrior form 1998 till end ah from 2000 till present
DogFart
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I started AH in Feb of 2005. First and only game I play online that I pay for. Took me a while to give into paying for a game, but its worth it. Its fun, relaxing and Ive made a lot of new friends. :aok
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Horn....
Hehe, I recognize too many of those names. That was back in the days when Kelton still played. Heck, I just saw Airmigan 2 weeks ago. BTW, he is planning to come to the convention.
You should ramp it up. It's gettin' lonely round here.:)
Hiya NB...like GE, I'm new to a new career. I'ma goin to be a park stranger at Death Valley in scenic CA. Dunno 'bout DSL out there. Perhaps overqualification is a good thing :) Maybe SCSI (spell it right, dammit) will consider adoption?
1213 miles one way to the Con....shouldn't have bought a friggin diesel. Hope you, Coach and all the other Damned fellas are well! Dok is still a dweeb.
'Gunfighters' are flaming homosexuals.
<S>
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'Gunfighters' are flaming homosexuals.
<S>
I keep tellin' LoneWolf and HiTech that....perhaps now they will believe me. :rofl
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Hi Mates
Started flight sims with Flight Simulator in the 80's. Found War Birds in 1996 and flew there even after coming to AH Beta. Finally went 100% in AH in 2001. Tried WWIIOL as well, but could never find a niche in there. Too many people.
Only squad mates left from WB and here are Ramjet occasionally, Sparow all the time, and a few others.
AH has totally changed from the Beta days. Anyone remember taking off from fields with 10k altitude. End over end in the B26 down the mountainside. Hmmmm. Those were the days.
Believe AH has something for everyone. Basically a flight simulation, but has ground and Navy activities that others just don't have.
Has been a fun trip for me.
Cheers to everyone.
Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in the RAF
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im half way through year 4, will b 5th year in i belive December
-BigBOBCH
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Found Warbirds in 98 played there until about late 2001 early 2002. I tried AH when it went beta but my computer couldnt handle it, I was getting about 5 FPS. Once I built a new system and I could give AH a fair shot I made the switch. I had a year of downtime when AHII came out and my computer fried, my laptop couldnt handle it. But the day I got my new system I signed up for a new account and was back at it.
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Kesmai's Air Warrior on GEnie in 1987.
Warbirds from 1.1x to Warbirds III.
Fighter Ace and WWII On-Line for good measure.
You'd think I'd be better at this by now :D
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My first flight sim was Solo-Flight for c64 back in like 1984 or so. Played offline all kinds of sims until AW in 1996 on AOL. Since then I played this back when AW died for a little bit. Switched to WW2OL for 3 yrs,went back and forth between the 2, had a very short stint in Fighter Ace, and for the past 3-4 yrs have played here. When I close my eyes at night, I have a gun sight pipper burned into my retnas.
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I just cleaned up my old CD's.Let's see FS98 fs 2004,RB3D Airwarrior 1,3 warbirds og.
CFS 1,2,3 IL2,A10cuda and a couple more that arent named... ya Demos thats what they are.. Think I first started around 95,96 but used to fly before that on a buddies 286... :aok
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Started flying online in 1996 just after I got married. At first was flying A10Cuba over Kali then discovered Warbirds and the 332nd Flying Mongrels. (Those were the days eh James :) ) Owe Vond more than I can ever repay for his endless patience getting me started.
Flew Warbirds just about 4 full years. Started here in early beta (Wilbuz dragged me over one day) And i've been hooked and here pretty much ever since.
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is that related to A-10 Attack? that was a fun sim :aok
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I started in Air Warrior in July 1998 and played it until the plug was pulled. By then I was also playing AH and have been here ever since. I did try WWIIOL for a while. Although I have not played as much over the last year or two I have never really left. I mainly play in the scenarios now. :)
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I started in Air Warrior in July 1998 and played it until the plug was pulled. By then I was also playing AH and have been here ever since. I did try WWIIOL for a while. Although I have not played as much over the last year or two I have never really left. I mainly play in the scenarios now. :)
Who is this Flossy person ????
hi Flo<S>
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I think a lot of "old timers" come and go. You almost have to take a break now and then, or you'd go nuts. lol
Started when Air Warrior (before it was called Air Warrior 1) went live on AOL. Been comin' and goin' since. Just re-enrolled again today, in fact. :)
<S> pilots.
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By the way, old Air Warriors, there is a scenario coming up in August (Rangoon, '42) that was designed by DoK.
If any of you want that AW-scenario feeling, please come join us. Registration is open now. Details are here:
http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario-2.html
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By the way, old Air Warriors, there is a scenario coming up in August (Rangoon, '42) that was designed by DoK.
If any of you want that AW-scenario feeling, please come join us. Registration is open now. Details are here:
http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario-2.html
Hummm...will it be 12 frames running Wednesdays and Weekends?
I thought not... :) That's what it will take to get the REAL AW-scenario
feeling...that and DoK getting on your case :)
=GB= ( Began spending $6/hour to fly AW back in '92 )
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I started on MS Flight Sim for DOS (When having 512K of RAM was a FAST machine) I was thrilled to get a color monitor because I could finally see the "realistic" terrain! I'm not sure what tour it was, but I first played AHI when the towns were tiny and you only got 1 Buff. Played the ill fated MS Combat FS online, and when I got tired of flying against AI planes in the underpopulated skys of Combat Filght Sim I came back to AH. I was shocked at how much better AHII was than the old AHI... Took a hiatus and learned to fly RW airplanes, was a partner ina Piper PA-28 Cherokee (N5556U) and now am back in Aces High for good! My Aces High GameIDs have been: Gotcha2, ReTrain and now MAJissue. In total Aces High hours, I don't know If I'm qualify as an old timer, but I have been in Flight Sims for a good bit of time.
BTW, Flight Simulators taught me VOR Navigation and made my ground school a breeze.
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Fighter Ace beta team 1998-2004
Confirmed Kill beta team 2000(?)
Aces High first and second years (and first two Cons)
RETIRED 2004 until March 2008
Many Many Many hours of Flight Simulator (before and after Microsoft takeover) - Jane's WWII - IL2 (all flavors) - and European Air War.
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Who is this Flossy person ????
hi Flo<S>
:D Hi xbrit! <S> :)
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=GB= ( Began spending $6/hour to fly AW back in '92 )
:aok
aka Gunsight
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Hummm...will it be 12 frames running Wednesdays and Weekends?
I thought not... :) That's what it will take to get the REAL AW-scenario
feeling...that and DoK getting on your case :)
=GB= ( Began spending $6/hour to fly AW back in '92 )
Heh! We need a rerun of Longbow, I say. :) The AH scenario player base isn't built up enough yet in its fanaticism -- but my goal is that one day, we can do that.
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I know most of the 327th steel talons (my squad) had been on when AW was the only real game in town,so as a squad their are some real long timers.I my self am pretty new but enjoy and am proud of being involved in one of the few squads that has been around seance most squads where in diapers :salute
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Heh..i still remember the original MS flight sim with the floppies. Little + marked your plane and .... was the bullets. Started PC flying on GeNie's original AW, flew Warbirds, then came with HT to AH long ago...
I think i reg'd here in '99 with my old handle, 'SpreadEagle' (I died ALOT), then switched to Warspawn...
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since tour 20. no flight sims before.
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Tour 40, May '03
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Started in March of '01. Before that, I played Red Baron when I was...maybe 12/13??? Not really sure how long ago that was hehe.
As per the percentage of old timers, there are very few guys that are still around from one of my original squads, 418 Hornets. Couple guys that used to be in it still play, Busher, SirLoin, occasionally Furball and Lazer. Generally though, there are very few guys in the overall populations that I know have been around for ages. It's good to get shot down by a familiar handle though instead of some zipcode :)
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Started in March of '01. Before that, I played Red Baron when I was...maybe 12/13??? Not really sure how long ago that was hehe.
As per the percentage of old timers, there are very few guys that are still around from one of my original squads, 418 Hornets. Couple guys that used to be in it still play, Busher, SirLoin, occasionally Furball and Lazer. Generally though, there are very few guys in the overall populations that I know have been around for ages. It's good to get shot down by a familiar handle though instead of some zipcode :)
Lazer seems to come around during school months, and then ditches us in summer. Something to do with "real life" and "outside". We just think he's a jerk.
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What is this "real life" and "outside" you speak of?
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No clue, only heard of it from Lazer.
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Heh! We need a rerun of Longbow, I say.
Longbow, or rather Longbutt (because we sat the PC so long) as we called it, was great! I really miss the scenarios from AW, the numbers that would turn out for them was incredible to boot.
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What is this "real life" and "outside" you speak of?
I think it's where food comes from.
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From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
Badboy58
Icer
CHECKERS
Crapgame
DipStick
Drex
Edbert
Grits
Howitzer
Jigsaw
Kwan
lazs
Leviathn
nopoop
Ouch
Pirate
Recon7
Redd
rickt
Wadke
Morpheus
and there are more ... these are just on the current squad roster.
Some make an appearence here and there, but for the most part ... they just don't fly anymore.
I have been around since early '02.
So are you cause or effect? :D
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So are you cause or effect? :D
Hmmmm ... most likely "cause" ... ;)
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Started with earliest Air Warrior. Late '80s I think. $5 shareware disk. On line? What's that? Internet? Huh? $6 an hour plus $8 an hour local long distance to GEnie, FOURTEEN dollars an hour! Now $15 a month Aces High plus piggyback on cable. Such a deal. Don't fly a lot anymore, but glad to support HiTech's genius and the bulletin board community.
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Well I have played since 1999. I took a break for a bit. I have been to three conventions the 1st, 2nd, and 4th i think. Overall, the game has been a real hoot. It has come a long way.
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Howdy, B-Man!
I sent you a PM on the video you made for the AW convention in LA -- yep, I've still got it and will send you a copy.
I watched that thing so many times. What a great video! :) Many thanks!
There's also a snippet of an interview in it with a P-38 fighter pilot, George Chandler. I got to meet him a couple of months ago in Seattle. Here is one of the several interesting stories he told.
He was based at Munda, flying P-38's. Among others, he participated in the US invasion of Bouganville, flying cover during the invasion.
After the war, he was travelling and was in a hotel lobby waiting around. He saw another guy in the lobby who looked about the right age to have been in WWII and struck up a conversation with the guy, eventually asking him if he had been in the war. The guy said that he had been in the army in the Pacific. George asked him where in the Pacific, and the guy talked about how he had been in some of the island invasions including the one at Bouganville. He went on to talk about it, including the following part.
The guy had been on a troop ship, which was bringing in thousands of troops for the invasion. The ship and its decks were packed with men. As the ship moved in closer to the island, two Zeros with bombs came diving down on the ship. He was on deck and could see the Zeros clearly, diving right on target for the ship. He figured he and the rest of the folks on the ship were doomed when a P-38 came screaming in from nowhere at fantastic speed. It caught each Zero quickly in turn from behind during its dive and blasted both out of the sky before they released their bombs. He said, "I don't know who that guy was in the P-38, but I sure wish I could meet him."
George said, "You just did."
Man it is a small world. I remember reading about that story in Aces against Japan by Eric Hammell.
I noted it because Chandler flew with the 339th FS, 347th FG which was my first operational squadron
in the USAF. The other claim to fame the 339th had was the Yamamoto intercept mission.
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I noted it because Chandler flew with the 339th FS, 347th FG which was my first operational squadron
in the USAF. The other claim to fame the 339th had was the Yamamoto intercept mission.
Cool!
Ah, the Yamamoto mission. It's so amazing that they pulled that off.
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I responded to a post by Guppy35 in another thread where he stated:
My guess is at least half the player base are what I'll refer to as "long-timers". This is nothing against Guppy35 in any way but it made me curious. How many ARE "long-timers".
Since Tour 12 ended 1/31/01 then tour 1 must have ended on 2/28/00. Since the first tours were beta and other sim's were still alive then lets use tour 12 as the beginning so the question is, how many have played flight sims since 1/1/01 or earlier.
Please post only once so we get a good count. Include your starting date as closely as you remember it, the sim you started in, and your guess as to the percent of long-time players in AHII.
I started in '96 in Air Warrior and my guess at long-timers is half the player base.
AW- 1996-Death of AW.
Warbirds- Till they porked the F4U.
Microsoft- Pacific Fighters- Great Game, but the online portion really SUXED. I hated going in there to find a mess of Hurricanes buzzing around. The online portion allowed all plane types in the MS series. Then I learned to fight the Hurri (in F4U) and played havoc with the squeakers that had become MS Aces.
AH- 2003- present
I learn a new way to die EVERY DAY. :salute To the OLD TIMERS!
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:D Hi xbrit! <S> :)
Holy cow, a name I haven't seen in a very, very long time. Flossy is the sweetest person ever to be banned on the EA forums :D
I hope things are well with you and your significant other. Do any of the other Kraits still fly in here?
ack-ack
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i think tilt,baggy, gab and trip were in the kraits. The first two being active gab and trip are awol.
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AW on AOHell back in '95 quit in '97...........came over here in '03
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AW2 on AOL for a few weeks in '97 then AW3 and gamestorm shortly after i found it (all u can eat vs pay as you go AOL).. stuck with AW3 and Millenium until it went "live" (and died shortly after) and the came over to AH in '01 until i left in Jan '06 (tours 14 - 71).
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And then you came back for 2 weeks to tease us!
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And then you came back for 2 weeks to tease us!
Yep :rofl :rofl
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And then you came back for 2 weeks to tease us!
That's what he would like you to believe. He ran into me one flight while he was AFK and I thoroughly out flew him and shot him down. He's afraid that everytime he'll go AFK I'll pounce and totally and completely own him, so he's not coming back.
ack-ack
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interesting to see how long some of you have been going at this, not just AH, but with sims as well..
As for me, missed the first 29 tours, got on board tour 30 of 2002. Guess I've barely cut my teeth in this crowd:)
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From the Blue Knights ... let me tell you who are old timers that DON'T fly anymore ...
Badboy58
Icer
CHECKERS
Crapgame
DipStick
Drex
Edbert
Grits
Howitzer
Jigsaw
Kwan
lazs
Leviathn
nopoop
Ouch
Pirate
Recon7
Redd
rickt
Wadke
Morpheus
and there are more ... these are just on the current squad roster.
Some make an appearence here and there, but for the most part ... they just don't fly anymore.
I have been around since early '02.
ok lets point out who in this group could eat pretty much anyone for lunch
Leviathn- I remember he was so good at just about everything. You really didn't want to get into a 1 on 1 with him, furball or anything. i remeber 10 kills a sortie wasn't uncommon.
Wadke, and Morpheus- Wadke was good i seem to remember. Idk why but morpheus sticks out for some reason. He was good but i think morph was more for his all/200 channel chat.
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That's what he would like you to believe. He ran into me one flight while he was AFK and I thoroughly out flew him and shot him down. He's afraid that everytime he'll go AFK I'll pounce and totally and completely own him, so he's not coming back.
ack-ack
I'm not sure why, but that made me snort with laughter - I'm getting funny looks in work now as well.......
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Wurzel
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I started flying in AH in 2000 and left shortly after the influx of gamers (those not interested in ACM) following the start of tv advertising, sometime in 2004 I think. I've visited a couple of times since but haven't yet got the desire worked up to stay again.
I miss the "good fights" with the different fighter aces, as well as the squad battles. The rivalry between the 412th and the 12th TAS (?) guys was great fun. Probably my favourite AH moment was fighting with the FDBs as an honourary member in the duelling arena vs the 12th TAS (I think it was). Man that was fun. Any of the FDBs still around?
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In :old: Fighter Ops/WBs then here since uhhhh :headscratch: uhhhhhh
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Started in 2002, before that took a sniff at Air Warrior. 8 years x 2,5 hours a day.......................... ........ :x :headscratch:
Dizz
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Since Beta ... whatever my "member since" states is probably close enought. :old:
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There are alot of old geezers around here . I started AH when AW started having connection issues ...Had to be mid 2000 or so . I didn't realize there was a forum until 6 months later ....then lurked for awhile before joining .
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My dad used to fly AWI all the way till AHII but i started up in 2002-2003 sometime... too young to remember and dont have tags for back then cuz we uninstalled AH last year till i brought it back this last fall...
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I flew aw3 back on gamestorm. Flew till ea shut it down. Took up aces high when I found it. Been on and off due to interest and work and school. I was a squeaker in aw3. I'm only 24 now. Heh
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You bunch of noobs are making me feel way too old. I was Rave ::IAF:: cpid 3353 late 93 on GEnie and paying the big bucks. I remember Vortex and especially (ready for a flashback bud?) his CO Athos and the rest of the Musketeers, as well as vaguely remembering Nobaddy, Grits and Lone Wolf.
Started with the old Microprose like some of the other "old timers" and did h2h on Falcon 3.0 quite a bit back then. Here's a short list for the Nostalgic... (Vortex actually took this Camp off so the rest of us could get some kills, and to thank him, I left his rank that camp off) :)
Nobaddy...were you cpid 5553? Lone Wolf...cpid 220?
Been off for a long while, but thinking to get going again...
FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR
CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994
Arena 1 Individual Scores:
Fighter Scores as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Rank Score Country Ship Handle Mail
1 601745 B 4233 Greycap JG 54 R.STATHAM
2 578797 A 6540 ^ZYfly^ -AW- R.FULTON2
3 489117 A 3988 Splash ::IAF:: M.MCGOWEN
4 478008 B 3488 Phantom JG 54 G.SMITH14
5 402224 C 565 Tarkus SL/FL-I **BS** M.SPENCER3
6 359863 A 4717 TOMCAT ::IAF:: T.BIFULCO
7 359835 A 3822 +-}--Hell-----*XO* S.SARKISIAN1
8 350662 B 3422 Doom JG 54 M.HOBUSS
9 305829 A 937 IconoClast S.FORBEN
10 272530 C 4989 ToMMnatr>FUBAR XO< T.CHRISTIE1
11 227445 B 5769 Shark JG 54 L.RABURN
12 214049 C 4419 Rasta CO Black Sheep C.MENDOZA
13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
14 203708 B 4276 COLORADO JG 54 D.WILLIAMS4
15 201549 A 4219 Hidalgo ::IAF:: R.CAVOLA
16 185342 B 3683 Proteous JG 54 D.VANDERWAL1
17 179743 B 5826 Joker -UFO- BL J.SAMACICIA
18 173010 B 4243 BADER M.FALLON1
19 168083 B 6422 maque G.MACDONALD7
20 161005 A 2268 RamDog *XO* JG26 P.HARGETT
21 155554 B 6064 Rip JG 54 T.BURMEISTER
22 153263 C 6008 PropWash L/FL-B **BS** R.SIMPSON11
23 137309 B 5017 Gator JG 54 J.KIMMERLY1
24 137022 B 2819 Der Bubba JG 54 J.KENNEDY15
25 130264 A 5842 +-}--PRIMATE------- M.MCMANUS1
26 125880 C 5545 Buzzard F.GOSS
27 124198 B 6687 Submission -UFO- A G.SIEVERS
28 123544 C 4781 BigJim LtCol FL-C**BS** J.HARRISON32
29 119921 A 6609 +-}--ATHOS------ VALHALLA
30 113805 C 3843 Sabre R.TIMBLIN1
6913 A 6533 -)-Vortex---
Arena 1 - Team Scores:
Country Missions Kills Fighter/Bomber Pnts Planes Lost
A 13206 6882 5379288/4594171 9322
B 11893 6925 5727542/2612135 7917
C 13085 6407 3927892/1322323 9839
Fighter Squadrons as of Fri Jan 7 14:35:55 1994
Score Squad Name
3021686 5910 JG 54 "The Green Hearts"
1735641 4374 Imperial Air Force ::IAF::
850554 4419 Black Sheep <<VMF-214>>
771716 6609 +-}--MUSKETEERS-----
699230 5191 UFO
555809 565 <<VMF-565>>
405776 1443 BLACK SHEEP <<VMF-314>>
405203 4937 JG26 (Abbeville Boys)
345854 5894 FUBARS 13 207039 A 3353 Rave ::IAF:: R.DURHAM
ahh hell I was only 28th that camp :cheers:
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I started on AW when it first came to AOL and was pay per hour. Stuck with it through its demise, then I came here and was in Fighterace briefly, it helped that our co was running FA at the time, while it was on the Zone. After that, life got in the way and I was off for about 9-10 years. Been back here a year and a few months now.
There are guys in my squad that were in AW long before me, and still play AH also. There are old timers out there, lots of them just don't make a lot of noise.
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MAC-AW 1997 (159th BK / <?>), WB when it went flat rate in what 1999 (=<LR>= / JG-51 / JG-27)
here since last summer ...
1/5 long timers is my guess ...
offline ...
errr played hornet or jet on dos on dads computer during high school in the early 80s (i think) keyboard only no joystick pre visual interface days (pretty sure i still have the big floppy someplace) ...
and i remember a game i got to play a couple of times on a network of universities (we were in the vet school at UF) which was "online" i guess, that was also early 80s with my brother, i remember you had to hit return to refresh the screen i remember how very cool it was at the time playing against guys across the country (i have no idea what the name of hat game was) ...
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AW from pay per hour days (had a 600.00 bill one month), then WB's now here. 15 years or so I guess. Been here 3 months now. Love it, and we got WW1 yesterday, love it even more.
Always been Zoney, was in the Pigstompers in AW, JG27 in WB and in AW II/JG-27. Our entire squad migrated here from WB.
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I Flew AWII back in 97 IIRC . Then I remember buying AW3 boxed version and flew from 97 ish to 2000. I tried AH in 2000 and thought it was way too hard to shoot anyone down ....that and the flight model was simulator like compared to AW lol. I went back to AW for another 6 months till EA really porked it ....then came back here and joined up . I still have my AW3 disk somewhere lol, along with some gamestorm versions .
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First flight sim? Combat on Atari 2600 in 1980 :lol
AH since 2001 I think. I remember you could play in certain multiplayer arenas (at least one) for free at the time.
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had to be late 01 early 02 for me.
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FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR
CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994
Bah. Campaign 102 from 1993. Those are some newbs! ;)
Campaign 2
Aces as of 13:04EST 03/03/88
Rank Kills Country Ship Handle
[Many people who were approximately infinitely better than I was, then:]
527 8 A 850 BROOKE
Ah, yes. Ranked 527th out of 596 pilots with a total score of 8 kills. :aok
I remember taking up a P-51 with full fuel and doing the hardest continuous turn I could on the deck right after takeoff (no flaps either of course) and marvelling at how a vulching Spitfire could keep shooting me down again and again!
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First flight sim was called Mail Run (I think) for the Apple IIGS around 1987. Got MSFS around 97 and joined AH the week before it became AHII. I have played pretty steadily until the last year or so. The new additions (mainly WW1) have rekindled my interest.
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my firts flight sim was Aces of the Pacific
early 90's, 486 computer, my Buddy "Vandal" told me about AW and let me fly a few flights on his computer.
I was hooked but did not get a computer until november 01. Played AW as part of the Tactical wing of the mighty LTD squad,we were 40 strong back then!
then EA murdered my only love!!! As acting CO I brought LTD to Fighter ace,where after many bruises we flourished....and here we are
<S> to the AH community for their warm welcome into the fold.
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Since tour 50 or 51, can't remember. Not old timer, but seams like forever.
:cheers:
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Hi,
I am strting to forget things, so bare with me...
1st sim ever: Falcon 1, in a Apple IIc; monochrome, yeah...
2nd: Knights of the Sky, it was in colours!
3rd: Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, cool...
4th: 1942 Pacific Air War, only managed to fly well when I bought my Thrustmaster HOTAS and rudder pedals.
5th: Warbirds, around 1997, first online experience, joined 249 RAF, until today...
6th: Aces High, from 2001 or 2002, can't really remember, mi sig has the first TOD were I found record of activity...
Joined these boards a couple of years after I joined AH. Only when I moved to a new house I was away from AH due to having no internet access. Don't fly much, RL first.
Cheers,
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since tour 21 here, i don't have much time to play AH for the time being
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since tour 21 here, i don't have much time to play AH for the time being
That's because you're too busy being a fighter pilot IRL. :aok
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AW'er until it got shafted,FA for very short time.WB's for a short time AH since Beta off and on.This will be my game until My ashes are strewn about.My eye sight is failing as I have diabetes,but I'll hang in until I just can't do it no more.I only fly now because I fly with the best squad in this game,the 71 Squadron,and my son ,who has had some health problems,has rejoined me in the air.I was Irondog,but went back to my old AW'er cpid Dobe to match my son's DobeyJr.It's difficult for me now,as I'm an easy kill,but I still love the sim,and I have made a lot of friends,and a few enemies, but,It's all good and I have enjoyed being a pseudo pilot for all these years.My years with the Nightmares in AW were good ones and I learned to fly from a lot of good ones,RF,Buzz,BFD,Reload,GhostZZT,Blue,Burma,Merg (AH Midnight)and my memory fails me now,but it was great fun. and the list goes on.Cherished memories all.It all started when I picked a copy of Pacific Aces....I was hooked at that point,so I've got a sortie or two under my belt,and I don't regret a second of the time spent aloft..I also flew a beta out of Texas a long time ago,.The flying Circus or something like that.It was a WWI sim,and it never got off the ground so to speak.I would swear Dale and Doug were involved,but I could be wrong.A few of the gents I flew with have left us all,and I :salute them all.
Great Grandpa Dobe for the 11th time,yesterday A.M.,a girl,8lbs 12 oz.....Lexie...I am blessed!
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I started in 1999 , played for 4 year's and took a break for 4 year's and now back again .
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Warbirds since february 1997
Trainer @ Warbirds since 2000
in AH - checking out new versions since 1.03
In full suit in here since about 2 years
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<--------- Noob. Been playing AH2 for little over 2 years, or has it become 3?! Don't remember.. Anyways, I'm just a noob. Never flown any flightsims before.. Did have an F-16 "flightsim" back in the good old Amiga 500 days tho.. If that counts? :old: :lol :bolt:
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i played red baron and red baron 2 in the mid-late 90s, then went into CFS series and was introduced to AH in 2003
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My first flight sim was Airforce and Dauntless :D the board games by... can't remember who. Was it Avalon Hill?
Then Microsoft Stealth Fighter or something like that on a Monochrome system. lol
Warbirds 1996 or 97 I think. I was in heaven the first time I shot at an enemy and saw a trail of little black sticks for smoke.
Here in 1999. :)
Still here thanks to my life long friends I have made and the great people of HTC.
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I just got here....How do you take off again?
Anyone ever play Dawn Patrol? Circa 1984.... WWI Board Sim...lol.
Then there was B17 Flying Fortress "The Mighty 8th" Hasbro bought it...I still run it eveyr now an then.
F22 Raptor came next first "mulitplayer online" game for me. 24 players max and lots of haxxors...and speed programs.
IAF (Isralie Air Force)
Then AHI....remeber the fence of trees...you had to drive through the HOLES...and the tunnels....bring back the TUNNELS!
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Started playing online flight sims in the year 00 with the European Air War. Since then I changed to IL2 and it was one of the meetings (Blitz 02 perhaps) here in Finland where I tried my first 2 weeks of AH. Been playing both IL2 and AH/AH2 ever since - the AH2 offers better entertainment for the weekends while IL2 has this down to earth historical sense in it with all the new Scorched Earth thing going on at the moment. Recently been less active since real life has this tendency to cut in, but I see no reason I wouldn't be playing from the bed of some retirement home in the future ...if I happen to live that long :)
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My first flight sim was Airforce and Dauntless :D the board games by... can't remember who. Was it Avalon Hill?
Then Microsoft Stealth Fighter or something like that on a Monochrome system. lol
Warbirds 1996 or 97 I think. I was in heaven the first time I shot at an enemy and saw a trail of little black sticks for smoke.
Here in 1999. :)
Still here thanks to my life long friends I have made and the great people of HTC.
Daddog that 117 sim was one of my first.I can't remember if I bought it first or Pacific Aces,The 117 was by Microprose,and the author for lack of a better word was Sid Meir.
Aces over Europe followed,then Air Warrior,and I was on my way!I think I tried every flight sim put out.Why I'll never know,because I flew AW all the time!
GreatGranpa Dobe
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I started playing AW in July 1998 and came to AH around the time it finished. Although I am not as active now, I am still around and always here for the scenarios. :D
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I've been playing AH on and off since Beta. Never even knew a game like this existed before then. I've gone by a couple of different names, but don't even remember them all, so I can't look at the old stats. haha. I know there was SkyKnite, and at least 2 others...
Used to make me laugh in Beta when you'd capture a field by getting troops on the field itself, and the aircraft would have no structural integrity problems. I'd love diving in from 8k, hit 350+ in a goon, and drop all my troopies underneath a furball (often while doing a loop, and only when a goon was asked for mind you). Couple of times folks called me "the Crazy Goon" for that little manuever.