And you wonder why you get flamed?? :huhNeg ;)
it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say "not another fcuking PoTW thread".
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks. Classy forum you got going here guys, classy. Game's great as always, this forum is another matter. Flame on fellers, this isn't a potw thread, it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up. Thanks for replying though, jerks.
Anyways, too many aces and not enough pilots. Team Players are are far and few between and all that's left of us are called toolshedders now. That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks. Classy forum you got going here guys, classy. Game's great as always, this forum is another matter. Flame on fellers, this isn't a potw thread, it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up. Thanks for replying though, jerks.
Anyways, too many aces and not enough pilots. Team Players are are far and few between and all that's left of us are called toolshedders now. That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
Simple solution, don't like it? Leave. It's not like the rest of us are going to change
to appease you.
Oink Dynasty 2000-2008
-Twitchy
Founder of the Mighty
Pigs on the Wing
Here's my take on it...
An Early Translation:
Pigs travel in a HERD, they eat until not is left but mud and their excrement, and then they move on to eat again, their oinks eching on the text buffers beneath them. It is the only way a Pig can be, for he is a Pig and naught else seems right to him but the bloody bishrook mud he leaves behind and the other Pigs around him. If you're not flying with us, you are that mud.
-Emperor Twitchy
from the
Oink Dynasty 2000-2008
-Twitchy
Founder of the Mighty
Pigs on the Wing
The problem with the base taker mentality is that the MA capture game resembles war in only the vaguest sense, and most war "winners" are essentially using sledgehammers to smash flies all the time.
FSO, scenarios, snapshots are all designed to resemble the air war as closely as possible. They are not dominated by the squads who concentrate on toolshedding down bases, suicide porking, or NOE smash and grab. They are consistently dominated by those individuals and squads who have focused on developing the very personal skill needed to actually achieve the prerequisite to any other goal in warfare since WWI-air superiority against actual resistance.
IOW, "Furballers".
I'm a bacon guy myself.I'm eating bacon right now.
Here's my take on it...
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks. Classy forum you got going here guys, classy. Game's great as always, this forum is another matter. Flame on fellers, this isn't a potw thread, it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up. Thanks for replying though, jerks.
Anyways, too many aces and not enough pilots. Team Players are are far and few between and all that's left of us are called toolshedders now. That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks.
I would like to see both LW arenas used to test which group is bigger and more influential to play.
LWO would be capture system off...
LWB would be capture system on...
Same map in both arenas, then we shall see what the majority of the folks want. If the minority doesn't like it, tough, they can move on to other areas.
(Never happen tho....)
Strip
Yet another 'look at me, I need attention' thread.:aok
:aok
you notice how he always says "founder of the pigs" :rolleyes:
Yet another 'look at me, I need attention' thread.
who are the POTW again?
Where's the PigStompers when you need em. SQWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEE :lolAs a former Pigstomer please refrain from posting that in any PoTW thread. Wouldn't want them to be painted with the same dweeb brush.
Here's my take on it...
An Early Translation:
Pigs travel in a HERD, they eat until not is left but mud and their excrement
I believe the word you are looking for (or should be looking for) here is "naught"...not "not". :):rofl
BTW cupcake, pigs are also cannibals (they are even known to eat their own young) and they eat crap (yah...real, live porcine fecal matter). Sorry dude, just stating the facts. You might wanna stop laying your private parts out on the chopping block. :devil
As a former Pigstomer please refrain from posting that in any PoTW thread. Wouldn't want them to be painted with the same dweeb brush.
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks. Classy forum you got going here guys, classy. Game's great as always, this forum is another matter. Flame on fellers, this isn't a potw thread, it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up. Thanks for replying though, jerks.
Anyways, too many aces and not enough pilots. Team Players are are far and few between and all that's left of us are called toolshedders now. That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
I agree, the big map are too big to reset normally, its worth a try on the small maps though.
Twitchy, here's my take on land grabbing...
The maps are too big to land grab and win the war. They reset the maps weekly if a war hasn't been won (which is never on big maps) so what's the point? Why spend so much time taking bases again and again when it accomplishes nothing?
The small maps are another story. You could actually accomplish something in a night on a small map and I actually could see the fun in trying to win the war. Of course the other side of the coin to that is, the maps are so small there is much more opposition condensed into small areas so it makes taking bases exponentially more difficult.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Well, I had been sqweeeing on 200 after killing pigs recently. That's the sound a dying pig makes right? My counter to the victory oinks. :aok
Twitchy, here's my take on land grabbing...
The maps are too big to land grab and win the war. They reset the maps weekly if a war hasn't been won (which is never on big maps) so what's the point? Why spend so much time taking bases again and again when it accomplishes nothing?
The small maps are another story. You could actually accomplish something in a night on a small map and I actually could see the fun in trying to win the war. Of course the other side of the coin to that is, the maps are so small there is much more opposition condensed into small areas so it makes taking bases exponentially more difficult.
Thoughts?
They reset the maps weekly if a war hasn't been won (which is never on big maps) so what's the point?
It's rare, but not never. Last week a big map (ozkansas) was won in LWO (No, not a TT reset).
Well, I had been sqweeeing on 200 after killing pigs recently. That's the sound a dying pig makes right? My counter to the victory oinks. :aokWell in that case carry on. :D
Yeah, it happens rarely. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant the effort which is what my point was.
Doesn't the map reset automatically after TT?
snip........
The maps are too big to land grab and win the war. They reset the maps weekly if a war hasn't been won (which is never on big maps) so what's the point? Why spend so much time taking bases again and again when it accomplishes nothing?
.........
Here's my take on it...the attention-'prostitute' thing is getting a bit long in the tooth, and by the lack of the normally 'herd-like' replies from the Pigs, I'd say it's a bit long in the tooth for them too
An Early Translation:
Pigs travel in a HERD, they eat until not is left but mud and their excrement, and then they move on to eat again, their oinks eching on the text buffers beneath them. It is the only way a Pig can be, for he is a Pig and naught else seems right to him but the bloody bishrook mud he leaves behind and the other Pigs around him. If you're not flying with us, you are that mud.
-Emperor Twitchy
from the
Oink Dynasty 2000-2008
-Twitchy
Founder of the Mighty
Pigs on the Wing
that is a frat initiation pictured above.... just saw this being done in Lacrosse near me a few weeks ago. I tried to find a gun..
25, you can get the 50 but the shi@ jams all the time. Chinese POS. Good hitting power though. 7.62 FMJ will tear the shi@ outta that lightweight material those noobs were wearing. You can have the Remington 870 instead if you are more of the close in guy....00 buckshot to the mascara should do :devil30 rnd mag is available here as well as a fixed 10 rnd skk
That your real number? Im a prank call it. :P :D
I got the SKS, you can borrow it next time.
610-867-5309 or comon over...its in the front room.
ill have to invite you guys up next time I see a pack a fairys running around, obviously crossing the line. :aok*watches back from now on* :uhoh
ill have to invite you guys up next time I see a pack a fairys running around, obviously crossing the line. :aokThat would be funny as hell. I'm sure between our 2 minds, we could think of something evil to do to them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt2zx1LDaHQOink :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt2zx1LDaHQwas it wrong for me to watch that twice and laugh so hard i expelled gas? :rofl
On the other hand if your using your forces to attack multiple targets, with timed attacks and maneuvers to pull defense one way then another, them I'm all for it! Create Combat, and if you grab 3 bases through a squad night then you won ! Thats what the game is about.
Bye twitchy, I thought I was the only one continually disagreeing with every post you made, guess not though. :lol
I see mostly tunnel vision out of base takers. Most only care about the base, not the fight. They do a good job at creating combat for furballers, but I don't think that's their intent.
To be honest I didn't mind twitchy and I do hate to see him go.. <S> twitchy and best of luck in your future endeavors..Wait what did i miss?
MrMeaty :rock
Wait what did i miss?
Thought I had missed something as well, does that mean no more pig threads?
Hopefully... unless someone decides to keep the "fun" going :uhoh Twitchy wanted to turn POTW into a full time base-taking squad, If we wanted to go take bases we'd all go join Dogfite's crew.So he bailed on PotW?
So he bailed on PotW?
I'll tell you this, he didn't leave willingly. :bolt::rofl Awesomenesezzz :rofl
I'll tell you this, he didn't leave willingly. :bolt:
That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
To be honest I didn't mind twitchy and I do hate to see him go.. <S> twitchy and best of luck in your future endeavors..I really didnt care what he was saying, I did find his posts on the BBS annoying and when he talked about the "Squad" I wondered if he was tallking about the same squad ive been flying with for 3 years. I heared him over vox in game a few times being a dictator, I just ignored him but if he is going to drive other pigs away I say dont let the door hit him on the way out
MrMeaty :rock
I really didnt care what he was saying, I did find his posts on the BBS annoying and when he talked about the "Squad" I wondered if he was tallking about the same squad ive been flying with for 3 years. I heared him over vox in game a few times being a dictator, I just ignored him but if he is going to drive other pigs away I say dont let the door hit him on the way out
Gentelmen,Well said. :salute
We have all had our differences over the years. Many of you probably think of me only a littel less than the OP of this thread. Can we let this thread die quietly now? I beleive OUR community as a whole is better than this.
None of us is gaining honor here.
Gentelmen,
We have all had our differences over the years. Many of you probably think of me only a littel less than the OP of this thread. Can we let this thread die quietly now? I beleive OUR community as a whole is better than this.
None of us is gaining honor here.
Hopefully... unless someone decides to keep the "fun" going :uhoh Twitchy wanted to turn POTW into a full time base-taking squad, If we wanted to go take bases we'd all go join Dogfite's crew.
I really didnt care what he was saying, I did find his posts on the BBS annoying and when he talked about the "Squad" I wondered if he was tallking about the same squad ive been flying with for 3 years. I heared him over vox in game a few times being a dictator, I just ignored him but if he is going to drive other pigs away I say dont let the door hit him on the way out
Bustr, you are right. We should move on.
But 1st...
:banana: :x
:salute POTW Great success!!
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Great victory for Pigs and Knightland. Wtg fellas. :aok
Bustr, you are right. We should move on.
But 1st...
:banana: :x
:salute POTW Great success!!
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Great victory for Pigs and Knightland. Wtg fellas. :aok
-Twitchy
I actually had a convo. with a squaddie about this last night. It disturbed me that the founder and Co. was booted from his own squad. Me and the squaddie had a long talk about history and how import. it is to this hobby, and how so many new (ish) pilots have lost the sense of it.I'm sure there is a lot more involved than we know. I'm not taking sides, but there is always more than meets the eye. At least ours.
I bet many of the players would be surprised that you can draw a straight line from AcesHigh back to the very first on-line multiplayer game ever on the internet (AirWarrior) and that all on-line games draw from the WW2 flight sim well. (what was it... 1988? 87?)
History.
If the founder of my squad (CPID in AW of Spidr or +WM1) wanted to join the WidowMakers, it would go without saying I would welcome him with open arms. Even if Tony (his name) started talking smack towards me or stepped on my toes I would never in a million years kick the guy. He EARNED a place in the squad, and a level of respect and honor from all WidowMakers because he was the first, and we all owe him for it.
I am not saying the Pigs should have made Twitchy CO again. That is their business and I understand that times change; BUT to kick the guy that created and built the squad...
I remember you building that squad Twitchy, even if some don't.
I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors Twitchy.
S! sir.
I actually had a convo. with a squaddie about this last night. It disturbed me that the founder and Co. was booted from his own squad.
This is not the place to air personal dirty laundry. There are private venues that would accomplish far more.
:salute
Way
This is not the place to air personal dirty laundry. There are private venues that would accomplish far more.
:salute
Way
I've given this consideration as well. If Twitchy is the CO and founder, the name stays with him, IMHO.
This is not the place to air personal dirty laundry. There are private venues that would accomplish far more.Syko banned me from the POTW forum, deleted my posts, and that time has passed. Waystin, you're a natural leader, and to your credit, a gentleman besides. Whether you know it or not, you're leading the POTW now, and honestly, I can't imagine a better candidate for the job, at the moment.
:salute
Way
I feel so guilty that the Hells Angels have so little drama, Angry, where are you when we need you? :rolleyes:
Oh really?? Well tell me this Mr Bigshot "CO", why does my key not work anymore and your car is in my parking spot?Me CO? No way. Too many coupes going on these days. That's your role.
Twitchy you bumping this thread may just lose PoTW alot of members.I saw some trash falling off the garbage truck the other day, and it didn't hurt my feelings at all. The driver kept on going, and I realized that maybe the truck was just too full of trash to haul the load to begin with, of course it wasn't my trash truck, but I stopped to pick it up anyway 'cause I'm just like that.
This is the truth for the community....Twitchy didnt change, PoTW did, we started becoming the sqaud we are now probably just before I joined it(it was actually more about score when I came in to think about it). We had kept this problem in our own private furoms but no it had to come here. We would like it if you dont help this out we were trying to solve this within the sqaud :salute
I saw some trash falling off the garbage truck the other day, and it didn't hurt my feelings at all. The driver kept on going, and I realized that maybe the truck was just too full of trash to haul the load to begin with, of course it wasn't my trash truck, but I stopped to pick it up anyway 'cause I'm just like that.I hate to add insult to injury, but that "rift" could be bridged with Legos quite easily :D
Yeah it could have stayed on the POTW forum, but I'm not a member of that forum anymore, and all my posts have been deleted there, even the menial Happy Thanksgiving stuff. I read through about ten pages of folks bashing me here, and I've responded to them with the truth about what's happened. If that's something you're ashamed of, then well, good. I would be.
Bottom line is this junky, I'm back to lead my squad, I'm not bending over to pick up the soap for Syko. He dropped that soap the day he started claiming to have been the CO for nine years and inviting furballers to a base taking squadron. As far as I am concerned, POTW is reforming, Syko can either resign, or carry on and accept the inevitable label of scavenger, and the oinking will continue either way.
Yeah I'm sorry to sound like a party pooper here, I really am, but I'm pretty upset. I've apparently lost a good friend I've had for ten years, and I've been literally, LITERALLY erased from something I've invested ten years of my life into. Yeah I could eat crow and just watch half the squad furball as the other half struggles to defend or take a field, and yeah I could just walk away from it and let Syko have it, he obviously wanted it pretty bad, but I'm definately not going to sit back and watch him get away with it while retaining any credibility he might have imagined having to begin with.
There's really good reasons why people don't go around claiming they wrote all the Beatles songs, one of them is a moral issue, the other is because people know who Lennon and McCartney were. I'm Twitchy, POTW is my creation, thick or thin. I'm sorry that's an issue, but the truth often is, and darn well should be.
-Twitchy
Anyways, this thread went waaaayyy off the deep end here.
Base takers vs Furballers...
I think one suggestion that really seemed amiable was to take the two main arenas, and focus one of them on winning the war and taking fields, and focus the other on Furballing. I think you furballers would be surprised to see how many war oriented players are actually out there. We used to see a map reset almost daily, in the last three years or so, I don't think I've seen a single one. There's a rift developing between the two schools of thought, and it's causing alot of grief to both sides of it.
Base takers vs Furballers...
I think one suggestion that really seemed amiable was to take the two main arenas, and focus one of them on winning the war and taking fields, and focus the other on Furballing. I think you furballers would be surprised to see how many war oriented players are actually out there. We used to see a map reset almost daily, in the last three years or so, I don't think I've seen a single one. There's a rift developing between the two schools of thought, and it's causing alot of grief to both sides of it.
I saw some trash falling off the garbage truck the other day, and it didn't hurt my feelings at all. The driver kept on going, and I realized that maybe the truck was just too full of trash to haul the load to begin with, of course it wasn't my trash truck, but I stopped to pick it up anyway 'cause I'm just like that.I found 5 Legos in my couch that should bridge that rift nicely :D
Yeah it could have stayed on the POTW forum, but I'm not a member of that forum anymore, and all my posts have been deleted there, even the menial Happy Thanksgiving stuff. I read through about ten pages of folks bashing me here, and I've responded to them with the truth about what's happened. If that's something you're ashamed of, then well, good. I would be.
Bottom line is this junky, I'm back to lead my squad, I'm not bending over to pick up the soap for Syko. He dropped that soap the day he started claiming to have been the CO for nine years and inviting furballers to a base taking squadron. As far as I am concerned, POTW is reforming, Syko can either resign, or carry on and accept the inevitable label of scavenger, and the oinking will continue either way.
Yeah I'm sorry to sound like a party pooper here, I really am, but I'm pretty upset. I've apparently lost a good friend I've had for ten years, and I've been literally, LITERALLY erased from something I've invested ten years of my life into. Yeah I could eat crow and just watch half the squad furball as the other half struggles to defend or take a field, and yeah I could just walk away from it and let Syko have it, he obviously wanted it pretty bad, but I'm definately not going to sit back and watch him get away with it while retaining any credibility he might have imagined having to begin with.
There's really good reasons why people don't go around claiming they wrote all the Beatles songs, one of them is a moral issue, the other is because people know who Lennon and McCartney were. I'm Twitchy, POTW is my creation, thick or thin. I'm sorry that's an issue, but the truth often is, and darn well should be.
-Twitchy
Anyways, this thread went waaaayyy off the deep end here.
Base takers vs Furballers...
I think one suggestion that really seemed amiable was to take the two main arenas, and focus one of them on winning the war and taking fields, and focus the other on Furballing. I think you furballers would be surprised to see how many war oriented players are actually out there. We used to see a map reset almost daily, in the last three years or so, I don't think I've seen a single one. There's a rift developing between the two schools of thought, and it's causing alot of grief to both sides of it.
jerrry jerry jerry!!! :banana::rofl :rofl
There seems to be an echo in here.
There seems to be an echo in here.
There seems to be an echo in here.
There seems to be an echo in here.
Bottom line is this junky, I'm back to lead my squad, I'm not bending over to pick up the soap for Syko. He dropped that soap the day he started claiming to have been the CO for nine years and inviting furballers to a base taking squadron. As far as I am concerned, POTW is reforming, Syko can either resign, or carry on and accept the inevitable label of scavenger, and the oinking will continue either way.
You know, I've always thought that organized squadrons were part of the problem of these games.Funny, I always thought that people who flew around by themselves without the comradery and associations inherent to human nature were the ones that were the odd balls. I can't imagine this game without sqadrons, it's an age old tradition that goes back to our primate ancestry.
Funny, I always thought that people who flew around by themselves without the comradery and associations inherent to human nature were the ones that were the odd balls. I can't imagine this game without sqadrons, it's an age old tradition that goes back to our primate ancestry.Twitchy, if you played this game every day for the rest of your life, you will never get the respect or have the class of Oldman.
It doesn't matter how you play anymore, there's ho whines, BNZ whines, Alt Monkey Whines, Buff whines, Plane Type Whines, Base taker whines, furball whines, Score ho'ing whines, tool shedding whines, lone wolf wines, whiner whines, and now squadron whines... what else is left?
Twitchy, if you played this game every day for the rest of your life, you will never get the respect or have the class of Oldman.Nor would I ever claim to. :aok
Twitchy, if you played this game every day for the rest of your life, you will never get the respect or have the class of Oldman.
You know... Sometimes I think the best place to be is about where I am...you're living proof dorks have a place in suckdom! :devil
I've been around long enough to not suck entirely. I haven't been around long enough to feel that I am superior. I'm new enough to have a sense of accomplishment when I score a kill. I haven't been around long enough for my ego to be damaged by a loss...
The game is still fun, when I have the time to play...
you're living proof dorks have a place in suckdom! :devil
Sure! Why not?! Whatever that means... :uhohit means, you are a dork and you own in the kingdom of suck!..... duh! :rolleyes:
it means, you are a dork and you own in the kingdom of suck!..... duh! :rolleyes:
other than you suck and you are a dork.... you're ok in my book!
:noid
:devil
SkyRock<---owns Twitchy, and slaps him with some sense! :devilHeh, I probably need it.
Heh, I probably need it.It isnt your sqaud...............and you just lost me
Syko, I owe you an apology. I can't do it on the POTW forum at the moment, but here it is publicly...
I'm Sorry.
That said, you're going to have to come around to the realization that POTW is my squad, it always was and always will be. I am just as protective of it as you are, all the more so, in fact. We're going to work all this out and probably be just fine once the dust settles, but for now you're just going to have to relax long enough to realize it isn't about you or me, it's about POTW. Yeah we may loose some pigs over it, but if they have a problem with me leading my squad, they've no place in it to begin with....
Sigh... ok, base taking or furballing. I say base taking is where the glory is, watching the map turn green is a total turn on and chicks dig base takers. Furballers always end up with the heavy set chick in the glasses nobody wanted to dance with all night.
-Twitchy
The long running SOAP As the world turns just lost all of its ratings as ACES HIGH forums has captured the imagination of all women ages 22-70.1 person made it this way, he can fix it
Oprah is gonna blow a gasket!
Dangit ya Pigs. can ya get your stuff together and deal with this without tempting all of us drama hounds?
My estrogen levels have spiked reading this stuff. :frown:
It isnt your sqaud...............and you just lost meWell, I'm sorry you feel that way, but, yeah junky, it is my squad, and if you can't at least stick around long enough to realize the only real difference is going to be in your head, then I'm sorry, but that's the way you want it apparently.
:salute
1 person made it this way, he can fix itYou're right about that. You're wrong about who.
You dont understand..........Nope, I sure don't. If yo think that quitting is your only option, then you don't understand either. I'm asking you to stay, you're telling me that you aren't going to because this isn't my squad, so one of the two of us is lacking the ability to compromise here.
Funny, I always thought that people who flew around by themselves without the comradery and associations inherent to human nature were the ones that were the odd balls. I can't imagine this game without sqadrons, it's an age old tradition that goes back to our primate ancestry.You missed his Key word "organized". The 2 squads I have been in Pigstomers and the Blue Knights, both the comaradery level was high. Pigstompers were a bit more organized, at times we could get a few together to "take a base" but usually fighter sweep was about it. As for the BKs it's more along the lines of go over there and shoot the red guys. Bother are a great bunch to fly with. Needed no "little general" to order the squad what to do to have fun... we just had fun
It doesn't matter how you play anymore, there's ho whines, BNZ whines, Alt Monkey Whines, Buff whines, Plane Type Whines, Base taker whines, furball whines, Score ho'ing whines, tool shedding whines, lone wolf wines, whiner whines, and now squadron whines... what else is left?
Needed no "little general" to order the squad what to do to have fun... we just had funThat's great, good for you.
Funny, I always thought that people who flew around by themselves without the comradery and associations inherent to human nature were the ones that were the odd balls. I can't imagine this game without sqadrons, it's an age old tradition that goes back to our primate ancestry.
It doesn't matter how you play anymore, there's ho whines, BNZ whines, Alt Monkey Whines, Buff whines, Plane Type Whines, Base taker whines, furball whines, Score ho'ing whines, tool shedding whines, lone wolf wines, whiner whines, and now squadron whines... what else is left?
Dude you came in here after a year off, tried to play armchair general and made yourself look like an ass. As CO of a squad what you say reflects every member of your squad. If your views don't emulate those of your squad, then i think it was time to move on. When you came back, you did it guns blazing with no clue of current events. Compairing your own squad to the devils rejects is a prime example. You single handily rehashed a beef with our squad that had long sense passed. I received many Pm's from members of your former squad apologising for your actions. One of the earlyest things i learned in school was the difference of good attention and bad. All of this drama falls on your shoulders. You clearly wanted all the attention you could get otherwise this thread wouldn't be here.wait a second there slim willy. Since when did you start making sense? And what did you do with sunsfan?
You missed his Key word "organized". The 2 squads I have been in Pigstomers and the Blue Knights, both the comaradery level was high. Pigstompers were a bit more organized, at times we could get a few together to "take a base" but usually fighter sweep was about it. As for the BKs it's more along the lines of go over there and shoot the red guys. Bother are a great bunch to fly with. Needed no "little general" to order the squad what to do to have fun... we just had funwhat is this organization you keep talking about? :neener: :uhoh :bolt:
just out of curiosity.......what do the members of potw that read these forums think?how bout they not and just let this go. Been enough drama in this thread. Worse than a jerry show called "my dad is my brother and i love midgets with mullets" Although it made for some very entertaining reading but, its ran its course.
how bout they not and just let this go. Been enough drama in this thread. Worse than a jerry show called "my dad is my brother and i love midgets with mullets" Although it made for some very entertaining reading but, its ran its course.
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way, but, yeah junky, it is my squad, and if you can't at least stick around long enough to realize the only real difference is going to be in your head, then I'm sorry, but that's the way you want it apparently.
We used to have a squaddie named Seraphim, he played for score, and finished most of his tours with an overall rank in the low 20's, and I never once saw him outside of range channel. He enjoyed flying with the squad, and still managed to become one of the best sticks in the game.
If you're not willing to even try things out here, then there's not much I can do about it. I hate to see you go before you've even given it a shot here, but I will be taking command of my squad again, if I have to fly around by myself.
Why not stay a week or two and then at least have the option to later say you tried before you quit?
-Twitchy
Funny, I always thought that people who flew around by themselves without the comradery and associations inherent to human nature were the ones that were the odd balls. I can't imagine this game without sqadrons, it's an age old tradition that goes back to our primate ancestry.Funny..... you limit yourself to the comradery of just a squad. I fly with a lot more folks than just my squad and I fly on all sides.
It doesn't matter how you play anymore, there's ho whines, BNZ whines, Alt Monkey Whines, Buff whines, Plane Type Whines, Base taker whines, furball whines, Score ho'ing whines, tool shedding whines, lone wolf wines, whiner whines, and now squadron whines... what else is left?
You know... Sometimes I think the best place to be is about where I am...My comment was about twiggies lack of class :huh
I've been around long enough to not suck entirely. I haven't been around long enough to feel that I am superior. I'm new enough to have a sense of accomplishment when I score a kill. I haven't been around long enough for my ego to be damaged by a loss...
The game is still fun, when I have the time to play...
Funny..... you limit yourself to the comradery of just a squad. I fly with a lot more folks than just my squad and I fly on all sides.
I agree 100% Shuff, that was one of several reasons I left POTW a while back.... I still fly with my old buds from POTW sometimes, but I find myself MUCH happier in the widowmakers, simply a better fit for my playstyle and enjoyment.
Side switching is VERY fun, get to meet a lot of good folks on each "side". Not sure why some folks have such "country-centric" view of this game, after all, are we not all here for the same reasons? The love of aviation, fun, and ww2 era combat/history?
Sol
I agree 100% Shuff, that was one of several reasons I left POTW a while back.... I still fly with my old buds from POTW sometimes, but I find myself MUCH happier in the widowmakers, simply a better fit for my playstyle and enjoyment.
Side switching is VERY fun, get to meet a lot of good folks on each "side". Not sure why some folks have such "country-centric" view of this game, after all, are we not all here for the same reasons? The love of aviation, fun, and ww2 era combat/history?
Sol
And you still miss me you hairless wonder! :x
Waystin, the only guy I know who can cover my 6 with a wirble.. lol
smackem smackem smackem jaws....Well school's starting isn't it, here comes the juveniles to smackem. Lay off the sugar boys, you'll live longer.
Well school's starting isn't it, here comes the juveniles to smackem. Lay off the sugar boys, you'll live longer.
This thread was supposed to be about Furballers Vs Base Takers, you knobs are the ones that started the drama and smack talk from the first reply, it's all you guys do here and it's impressive if only in it's arrogance and mootness. I've said my peace, frankly the POTW stuff is none of your business to begin with, but again, I'm not the one that started smacking my gums about it here. This thread was intended to be something else entirely, and I honestly don't give a dried rat's turd what you guys think about me, or my squad. Thanks for your slighted and ignorant opinions about it though, I'll be sure to care what YOU think for sure Sunsfan, we all know what an ace you are. :lol
INK, seraphim would have owned you, you're not all that. Your mediocrity is frustrating for you I guess, but then, you're the one who's obsessed with it.
Don't want you to be late for school boys, run along now.
-Twitchy
Your OP had zip to do with Furballers and Base takers.It was just another lame thread,by you,yet again spewing out another curdled dead on arrival attention seeking pile of crap.
You have made the POTW business everyones business on a regular basis with your attention seeking BS fests and now you have the unmitigated GALL to say "its none of your business" Oh thats rich. Youve earned your reputation in here.Youve smeared your squad,whom you claim to hold so dearly, with the dreck you roll in almost daily. You classless loser. If you had a shread of decency,you woulda took your lumps when they booted you like that bag of trash you found,but no,your gonna tear it apart. WTG.
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As CO of a squad what you say reflects every member of your squad. If your views don't emulate those of your squad, then i think it was time to move on.
Well school's starting isn't it, here comes the juveniles to smackem. Lay off the sugar boys, you'll live longer.
This thread was supposed to be about Furballers Vs Base Takers, you knobs are the ones that started the drama and smack talk from the first reply, it's all you guys do here and it's impressive if only in it's arrogance and mootness. I've said my peace, frankly the POTW stuff is none of your business to begin with, but again, I'm not the one that started smacking my gums about it here. This thread was intended to be something else entirely, and I honestly don't give a dried rat's turd what you guys think about me, or my squad. Thanks for your slighted and ignorant opinions about it though, I'll be sure to care what YOU think for sure Sunsfan, we all know what an ace you are. :lol
INK, seraphim would have owned you, you're not all that. Your mediocrity is frustrating for you I guess, but then, you're the one who's obsessed with it.
Don't want you to be late for school boys, run along now.
-Twitchy
Gentelmen,
1. At the moment this is the only forum Twitchy has to speak for himself about an issue he feels strongly about in the hopes another party might be following it. This is a Catch-22 that I respect Twitchy is caught in. All of us know historicly the AH Forum is the wrong place to air personal and squad issues. Management has been very kind to not step in yet as everyone has been warned over the years they will with prejudice. We owe it to our community and guests to get past this quickly. Right now we all are looking kind of silly on the Oprah meter.
2. There are exactly 2 people who can resolve this issue if it is ever to be resolved. This Forum is not, nor ever will be the location for that resolution. None of us in this audience are principles to the final resolution how ever it plays out. This is a personal issue between Twitchy and no one on this Forum.
3. The longer this carries on here at the AH Forum, the more people will get dragged in and peoples feelings will be hurt aside from the normal Forum bantor. It is human nature to get caught up in emotional issues while personaly identifying with aspects of the story that ring true to incidents in your own past. That is not what this game is about gentelmen...........Please let this thread go before it spirals out of control and HiTech performs an intervention.
Gentelmen,
1. At the moment this is the only forum Twitchy has to speak for himself about an issue he feels strongly about in the hopes another party might be following it. This is a Catch-22 that I respect Twitchy is caught in. All of us know historicly the AH Forum is the wrong place to air personal and squad issues. Management has been very kind to not step in yet as everyone has been warned over the years they will with prejudice. We owe it to our community and guests to get past this quickly. Right now we all are looking kind of silly on the Oprah meter.
2. There are exactly 2 people who can resolve this issue if it is ever to be resolved. This Forum is not, nor ever will be the location for that resolution. None of us in this audience are principles to the final resolution how ever it plays out. This is a personal issue between Twitchy and no one on this Forum.
3. The longer this carries on here at the AH Forum, the more people will get dragged in and peoples feelings will be hurt aside from the normal Forum bantor. It is human nature to get caught up in emotional issues while personaly identifying with aspects of the story that ring true to incidents in your own past. That is not what this game is about gentelmen...........Please let this thread go before it spirals out of control and HiTech performs an intervention.
We used to have a squaddie named Seraphim, he played for score, and finished most of his tours with an overall rank in the low 20's, and I never once saw him outside of range channel. He enjoyed flying with the squad, and still managed to become one of the best sticks in the game.
-Twitchy
Your OP had zip to do with Furballers and Base takers.It was just another lame thread,by you,yet again spewing out another curdled dead on arrival attention seeking pile of crap.I want to ride it! :lol
You have made the POTW business everyones business on a regular basis with your attention seeking BS fests and now you have the unmitigated GALL to say "its none of your business" Oh thats rich. Youve earned your reputation in here.Youve smeared your squad,whom you claim to hold so dearly, with the dreck you roll in almost daily. You classless loser. If you had a shread of decency,you woulda took your lumps when they booted you like that bag of trash you found,but no,your gonna tear it apart. WTG.
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ABout the ORIGINAL topic though...
Neither pure furballing, nor base taking, is what this game is about.
I am MUCH more of a furballer than a base taker, but I will assist in a base capture IF it provides good air to air fights.
The base taking portion of the game is what drives the combat IMO, and the game would be lessened by the removal of it. That said, the idea of a horde coming in with 50 guys to smash and grab a base, is incredibly boring. What's the point? THis tactic destroys the entire premise of a COMBAT game. this could be accomplished as easily offline, as online.
The other tactic performed by many "base taking" squads, of dropping all teh fighter hangars int he middle of a great fight, is poor gameplay as well IMO. Sure, it promotes taking of the base, but it is to the detriment of many who are enjoying the fight. THere are many other bases aorund which you can go play pork n grab on. Plus, is it not more satisfying to sneak that goon in with a battle raging overhead and snatch that base out from under the enemy's toes, than to fly a circle over the base while twiddling your toes waiting for the goont o show up?
Again, it boils down to, BOTH sides are right, in that base taking is a force which drives the combat (furball) portion of the game, and to loose either would lessen the game experience as a whole IMO.
Sol
(forgive my typing skillz, or lack thereof, passing a kidney stone, and am allll doped up on percocet)
Sol
butcha know what's fun/? when they drop the fighter hangars, people up il's, b25, and other bombers....and then still kick the attackers butts in air to air. :devil
ever seen nkl5, nb, cobia, snaphook, and a whole slew of others fight in a bomber? :devil
That said, you're going to have to come around to the realization that POTW is my squad, it always was and always will be... realize it isn't about you or me, it's about POTW... if they have a problem with me leading my squad, they've no place in it to begin with....
It isnt your sqaud...............and you just lost me
:salute
hehe quite true, did it myself in A-20's the other night... can be a lot of fun, and laughs...
Landed 6 kills in one sortie in that A-20... lol. Flies like a pregnant 38
jerk!!
i never landed in an a20. seems i'm always losing things...... :rofl :bolt:
Gentelmen,
1. At the moment this is the only forum Twitchy has to speak for himself about an issue he feels strongly about in the hopes another party might be following it. This is a Catch-22 that I respect Twitchy is caught in. All of us know historicly the AH Forum is the wrong place to air personal and squad issues. Management has been very kind to not step in yet as everyone has been warned over the years they will with prejudice. We owe it to our community and guests to get past this quickly. Right now we all are looking kind of silly on the Oprah meter.
2. There are exactly 2 people who can resolve this issue if it is ever to be resolved. This Forum is not, nor ever will be the location for that resolution. None of us in this audience are principles to the final resolution how ever it plays out. This is a personal issue between Twitchy and no one on this Forum.
3. The longer this carries on here at the AH Forum, the more people will get dragged in and peoples feelings will be hurt aside from the normal Forum bantor. It is human nature to get caught up in emotional issues while personaly identifying with aspects of the story that ring true to incidents in your own past. That is not what this game is about gentelmen...........Please let this thread go before it spirals out of control and HiTech performs an intervention.
Never said I landed in 1 peice LOL
Misisng aileron, half elevator, one engine dead and gear shot out.. woowooo
:bolt:
Never said I landed in 1 peice LOL
Misisng aileron, half elevator, one engine dead and gear shot out.. woowooo
:bolt:
(forgive my typing skillz, or lack thereof, passing a kidney stone, and am allll doped up on percocet)
Sol
lol kidney stones, a small bit of pain, Pancreatitis, makes Kidney stones feel like a walk in the park!!Well, I had a hang nail once so suck it up princess :D
trust me 4 and a half months with NO FOOD, tube fed, hospitalized for a month, pain so extreme I was on Demerol and morphine,
and that did not get rid of the pain completely!!
be thankful That's all you got!
lol kidney stones, a small bit of pain, Pancreatitis, makes Kidney stones feel like a walk in the park!!
trust me 4 and a half months with NO FOOD, tube fed, hospitalized for a month, pain so extreme I was on Demerol and morphine,
and that did not get rid of the pain completely!!
be thankful That's all you got!
Well, I had a hang nail once so suck it up princess :D
Like a true SAPP'er :aok
<<<<<<<<< had an infected ingrown toenail. :neener: :uhoh :bolt:
Go ahead Cap, post the picture and end this thread...I dare ya! :neener:Could post the pic of my finger vs a DA50 RC airplane engine/prop injury ;)
Well, I had a hang nail once so suck it up princess :D
Could post the pic of my finger vs a DA50 RC airplane engine/prop injury ;)
Sol
Go ahead Cap, post the picture and end this thread...I dare ya! :neener:
anyone else curious what the brown stuff is? :D
somehow i think i'm gonna regret this.........
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and the chunk the doc cut out.......
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somehow i think i'm gonna regret this.........
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and the chunk the doc cut out.......
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Holy crap.. thank god we don't have VR smellovision yet.Imagine what flying near Jaxxo would be like :uhoh
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Finger vs Prop
Prop PWND me
I'm guessing you won't be at the sign ups for POTW, bronk, but hey, we don't need a 'little general' to tell us how to be pigs either. :aok
-Twitchy
You know I have a weak stomach right?
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hehe quite true, did it myself in A-20's the other night... can be a lot of fun, and laughs...
Landed 6 kills in one sortie in that A-20... lol. Flies like a pregnant 38
I've seen cobia38 and snaphook do some great things in an A-20, though I've only seen NKL5 run so I really can't say how well he fights.
ack-ack
But considering you're using your other PoTW squadron mates as a comparison to come to that conclusion about Seraphim, I can see where you made your mistake.
ack-ack
(http://photos.bravenet.com/389/645/485/79D7640478.jpg)
Finger vs Prop
Prop PWND me
:lol :headscratch: ?
Cap, check pm's.
i'm confused? nothing new in them? :headscratch:
i'm confused? nothing new in them? :headscratch::lol Was sending one now, didnt realize you'd be checking this thread so fast. :o
by the way sol.....what the hell were you trhinkin? starting an engine that big bare handed?and it DID heal well, i hope?
:lol Was sending one now, didnt realize you'd be checking this thread so fast. :oarent you suppose to send the pm then say "check PMs :noid"
He didn't say he sent ya anything, Cap :noid:noid :bolt: :rofl
:lol Was sending one now, didnt realize you'd be checking this thread so fast. :o
arent you suppose to send the pm then say "check PMs :noid"I know :o
sorry bout that....got it............it's been a little slow here, and when it is, i get more chance to check the boards.......My bad anyways :lol
The engine was already running. I was tuning/testing. had the plane tied back by a rope tied to a tree. The rope apparently had been nitro soaked and was weakend. I was sitting in front of the A/C, and the rope snapped. it began to roll at me. Instinctively/thankfully I put my hand out to stop it, rather than get hit in the gut by it, thus the hand injury.
As for healing, it is going well. I had to have a microsurgery on it to reattach tendons veins etc etc, and am currently in physical therapy for it, but all is going well so far!
Sol
I know :o:noid
go away bp. :devilMy bad anyways :lol
i've seen him turnfight in a lanc...........
No offense but that doesn't say squat for how good he is. He tried to fight me in a goon the other day while I was engaged with 2 other bogies, I guess his intent was to try and intentionally ram me while I was fighting. Because he lived for around 8 minutes while I turned with him and the other two Rooks that were in fighters mean he's any good because he survived the longest in his goon? Not at all, just says that he's dumb enough or bored enough to try and fight in a plane without any guns and not that he's good. The reason NKL5 lived as long as he did in his goon was that I was more concerned with the two other planes that had guns and were a threat, whereas the C-47 was hardly a threat and once the fighters were dispatched, NKL5 followed about 5 seconds later.
ack-ack
Correct PoTW tossed you ... no more little general. WTG PoTW :aok
He was tossed?
Wouldnt that be poetic justice...
I'll tell you this, he didn't leave willingly. :bolt:
No offense but that doesn't say squat for how good he is. He tried to fight me in a goon the other day while I was engaged with 2 other bogies, I guess his intent was to try and intentionally ram me while I was fighting. Because he lived for around 8 minutes while I turned with him and the other two Rooks that were in fighters mean he's any good because he survived the longest in his goon? Not at all, just says that he's dumb enough or bored enough to try and fight in a plane without any guns and not that he's good. The reason NKL5 lived as long as he did in his goon was that I was more concerned with the two other planes that had guns and were a threat, whereas the C-47 was hardly a threat and once the fighters were dispatched, NKL5 followed about 5 seconds later.
ack-ack
He was tossed?Confucious say, man who leaves his woman or his squad with best friend, responsible for much screwing :D
Wouldnt that be poetic justice...
Confucious say, man who leaves his woman or his squad with best friend, responsible for much screwing :Dim waiting on you to post pics of your and slash in a motel 6 together. :noid
im waiting on you to post pics of your and slash in a motel 6 together. :noidI wasn't infering Slash was cheating on you, but he probably is :P
I wasn't infering Slash was cheating on you, but he probably is :Pthats ok, i have grizz and silat to keep me company :P
He was tossed?
Wouldnt that be poetic justice...
Yeah, funny thing about that is that Syko didn't have the cajones to do it himself, he had bentnail passing messages to me like a third grader while he was on a 'secret channel' hiding from me for the last two weeks. It was real classy. In the ten years I've played this game I've never seen anything so low. Not only did he go around claiming to have run the Pigs on the Wing for the last ten years, he went so far as to delete my posts on the POTW site and literally hide from me on channel when I showed up in game to talk to him about it. Backstabbing cowardice at it's finest, but hey, if he wanted that shiny CO badge bad enough to steal somebody's squad while they're going through hard times, after ten years of being a friend and squadmate, and lie to take credit for a decade of running it, he deserves it, and the reputation that''s going to follow it. I'm the bad guy? LOL yeah.
-Twitchy
sheesh dude! let it go.He said as he hit the post button AGAIN.
Cry wine wah wah wahI think your mistaking ignoring for hiding. If only Skuzzy would delet every thread where you claim POTW to be uber ownage it would clear a page. Suck it up princess.YOU brought this upon yourself. YOU made the squad cringe everytime you opened your cucumber holster. YOU are the one that just had to have all that attention and YOU are a sad case.
-Twitchy
I just got pwnt by "my" squad.
-Twitchy
Ok Im back.:rofl
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!! :lol :lol :lol
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ever seen nkl5, nb, cobia, snaphook, and a whole slew of others fight in a bomber? :devil
Yeah, funny thing about that is that Syko didn't have the cajones to do it himself, he had bentnail passing messages to me like a third grader while he was on a 'secret channel' hiding from me for the last two weeks. It was real classy. In the ten years I've played this game I've never seen anything so low. Not only did he go around claiming to have run the Pigs on the Wing for the last ten years, he went so far as to delete my posts on the POTW site and literally hide from me on channel when I showed up in game to talk to him about it. Backstabbing cowardice at it's finest, but hey, if he wanted that shiny CO badge bad enough to steal somebody's squad while they're going through hard times, after ten years of being a friend and squadmate, and lie to take credit for a decade of running it, he deserves it, and the reputation that''s going to follow it. I'm the bad guy? LOL yeah.
-Twitchy
Here are some info I've heard:And where did you get all of that info? Because im sure that is "info" from both sides... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I have not read all of the pages in this or other related threads, so take my words as is.I agree, let the kid get his own name.
Twitchy, if what you say is true, then the name should stay with you. Here are some info I've heard:
1)You had to leave AH for +1 year due to real life. Thus you disbanded your squad once your account went inactive.
2)You and Syko agreed that he would reform the squad and act as CO in your absence.
3)Upon your return, it was agreed upon that you would be the CO again.
4)It was wrong of Syko to omit your 10 years as CO history from the website. (Lots of time and work to pay for 10 years of gaming)
5)It is not right to have Syko ask other players if they should steal the squad name from you since you insist on keeping it for yourself.
These are the things I've heard.
Syko and the others can choose to form a new squad with a different name. If they do not, well, the older AH players will know who stole the name. You as CO have the right to kick out players from your squad, just as they have the right to remove themselves.
Also, by you posting negatively after your arrival back to AH, it attracts like minded others. Learn from this humbling experience and move forward. It's always a good ideas to show more respect to others, just as I do to you. Have fun, and good luck with the rebuilding of your squadron.
And where did you get all of that info? Because im sure that is "info" from both sides... :rofl :rofl :rofl :roflI'll say this, Twitchy came up with that name. And twitchy should keep that name. Dont get me wrong. I dont like him nor this syko kid. But right is right.
Gotta agree here.If he named it,he should keep it and any member with half a brain should leave it.They can start one with far less drama.:aok
Gotta agree here.If he named it,he should keep it and any member with half a brain should leave it.They can start one with far less drama.
What would be a good name for the new squad ? :devil
What would be a good name for the new squad ? :devil
SOWS on the Warpath ?:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Whorders on the Border? ....the possibilities are endless :)im not gonna start. I dont feel like getting that PNG :aok :noid
god why do i have to agree?
Squads are built around their members, not their leadership. A good cohesive squad will instantly rally when a CO becomes unavailable and rebuild. It happened to the 80th once already and our old CO took the chance of returning to a completely different squad. Unfortunately for him, we are still a bunch of augering losers that don't take bases.He isnt in PoTW and he understands :aok
Suffice to say, the squad belongs to the members, not the man. More so when the man is vacant for a period of time. Twitchy, let the Pigs have the name and find new people to hang around with and rebuild. You obviously have the experience to recreate a large independently functional squadron, use the experience to improve on your previous design.
Squads are built around their members, not their leadership. A good cohesive squad will instantly rally when a CO becomes unavailable and rebuild. It happened to the 80th once already and our old CO took the chance of returning to a completely different squad. Unfortunately for him, we are still a bunch of augering losers that don't take bases.
Suffice to say, the squad belongs to the members, not the man. More so when the man is vacant for a period of time. Twitchy, let the Pigs have the name and find new people to hang around with and rebuild. You obviously have the experience to recreate a large independently functional squadron, use the experience to improve on your previous design.
Squads are built around their members, not their leadership. A good cohesive squad will instantly rally when a CO becomes unavailable and rebuild. It happened to the 80th once already and our old CO took the chance of returning to a completely different squad. Unfortunately for him, we are still a bunch of augering losers that don't take bases.
Suffice to say, the squad belongs to the members, not the man. More so when the man is vacant for a period of time. Twitchy, let the Pigs have the name and find new people to hang around with and rebuild. You obviously have the experience to recreate a large independently functional squadron, use the experience to improve on your previous design.
Here's my take on it...
An Early Translation:
Pigs travel in a HERD, they eat until not is left but mud and their excrement, and then they move on to eat again, their oinks eching on the text buffers beneath them. It is the only way a Pig can be, for he is a Pig and naught else seems right to him but the bloody bishrook mud he leaves behind and the other Pigs around him. If you're not flying with us, you are that mud.
-Emperor Twitchy
from the
Oink Dynasty 2000-2008
-Twitchy
Founder of the Mighty
Pigs on the Wing
Suffice to say, the squad belongs to the members, not the man. More so when the man is vacant for a period of time. Twitchy, let the Pigs have the name and find new people to hang around with and rebuild.
I agree with this. When my squad lost its founder to real life issues, we reformed as necessary under another senior member. While our CO's departure was on good terms, if it hadn't been I think it would have been wholly appropriate to reform the squad under the name we had.The 80th reformed under a umm a junior member (he's 16 I think). :D
Name it "Pork.The other wing. PTOW :rofl:rofl :rofl :aok
What would be a good name for the new squad ? :devil
fluffy bunnys?
:neener: :noid
Pissed
Off
Twitchy
Wing
What would be a good name for the new squad ? :devilOINK
You can make an argument for both sides. I think it's a given that the members make a squad. It isn't the squad name that is important but that the members enjoy flying with each other. Twitchy created "Pigs on the Wing" though, the name is his creation. I don't really know what the solution is tbh, but I see both sides of it.If he claims it to be his creation wouldnt that be a copyright violation? You listen to Pink flloyd Grizz? :D
Squads are built around their members, not their leadership. A good cohesive squad will instantly rally when a CO becomes unavailable and rebuild. It happened to the 80th once already and our old CO took the chance of returning to a completely different squad. Unfortunately for him, we are still a bunch of augering losers that don't take bases.
Suffice to say, the squad belongs to the members, not the man. More so when the man is vacant for a period of time. Twitchy, let the Pigs have the name and find new people to hang around with and rebuild. You obviously have the experience to recreate a large independently functional squadron, use the experience to improve on your previous design.
Vatti formed The Flying Circus way back when AH started. We have had the same core squad for the most part since then. Vatti took a sabatical to go play WoW for a year or two and when the Squad was deleted after his name was deleted from the banks,we reformed it. He has since came back to fly now and then and never once was it even brought up to give him control of the unit.Hajo took over and reformed it,when Hajo left for a bit Rob reformed it. Hajo came back and it was also never considered.
Ya see,TFC is a unit.Almost family.We dont have that petty little Its mine its mine bullcrap going on because its OURS.No one runs the squad because we work as a group.
Take notes Twitchy. It only matters whos in charge if you have ego and maturity issues.
Good points Del, but the conditions that you describe don't seem to be the same conditions for POTW.
Twitchy owns the name ... if there is a faction of the current members of the POTW that don't like him or his direction, then they simply withdraw from the POTW and form their own squad with new leadership. That may leave the POTW with 1 member (Twitchy) but he can then try to recruit people that are of the same mindset as him.
Whoever creates a squad name, owns that squad name until that person gives up the name ... pure and simple ... and it doesn't appear that Twitchy is willing to give up the name.
For example ... If yourself, Corky, Shuff, Soulyss, and Silat decided that the original "objective" of the 80th was not to your liking, would you try to oust Mensa, take the squad name, and re-mold the 80th to your collective "objective" ? ... or do you separate yourself from the squad and start your own squad with your new "objective" ?
Apples and Oranges ... those COs who departed, passed the torch, and returned ... have only returned to the squad because they agree with the "objective" of the squad. If they didn't, they probably would have not re-joined and either formed their own squad or joined a squad who's objective was more to their liking.I disagree.All we hear from Twitchy is I me mine. There is no we or us to him. In the sence that it sounds like the squad has pretty much stayed the same,it is Twitchy that has changed. I hear people say he was a great guy,and when he came back to the game he acted like he had lost his mind. He no longer fits what the squad perceives to be their role.
Any of you use your PC for anything but this game......... :old:
http://whois.domaintools.com/pigsonthewing.org
I disagree.All we hear from Twitchy is I me mine. There is no we or us to him. In the sence that it sounds like the squad has pretty much stayed the same,it is Twitchy that has changed. I hear people say he was a great guy,and when he came back to the game he acted like he had lost his mind. He no longer fits what the squad perceives to be their role.
What they do is their business,but he has caused them a LOT of grief,and that is unforgivable.
Any of you use your PC for anything but this game......... :old:
http://whois.domaintools.com/pigsonthewing.org
For example ... If yourself, Corky, Shuff, Soulyss, and Silat decided that the original "objective" of the 80th was not to your liking, would you try to oust Mensa, take the squad name, and re-mold the 80th to your collective "objective" ? ... or do you separate yourself from the squad and start your own squad with your new "objective" ?
We tried a coup d'etat ounce and Mensa fiendishly squashed it with much violence and bloodshed.Not the dreaded sweetheart cannon?
I felt the uncontrollable need to post but don't actually have anything to say
Good points Del, but the conditions that you describe don't seem to be the same conditions for POTW.
For example ... If yourself, Corky, Shuff, Soulyss, and Silat decided that the original "objective" of the 80th was not to your liking, would you try to oust Mensa, take the squad name, and re-mold the 80th to your collective "objective" ? ... or do you separate yourself from the squad and start your own squad with your new "objective" ?
Real simple, people and squads know Twitchy Started the Pigs, whether you care or not
Real simple, people and squads know Twitchy Started the Pigs, whether you care or not... what i find amazing is the childlike attitude of "were not going to change our name" Pigs have always been known for the base taking game, now seems a few are tired of taking bases and want a dogfighting, Seems to me like the reasonable thing to do is get yourselves a new name?..
i took over a year off from the 68Th's and when i came back i had my same rank and responsibilities, the squads gameplay hadn't changed. 2 people started the 68Th KO and Bragg and its grown ever sense, Bragg has retired due to health reasons and <S> Rip KO, Falcon took the Squad over and we haven't changed who the 68Th are, we base take, dogfight, resupply, and defend and help anyone who asks.
For what its worth that's my 2 cents
I cant speak for "people" but I hadn't the faintest idea who Twiggy was until about three weeks ago.+1
Good points Del, but the conditions that you describe don't seem to be the same conditions for POTW.
Twitchy owns the name ... if there is a faction of the current members of the POTW that don't like him or his direction, then they simply withdraw from the POTW and form their own squad with new leadership. That may leave the POTW with 1 member (Twitchy) but he can then try to recruit people that are of the same mindset as him.
Whoever creates a squad name, owns that squad name until that person gives up the name ... pure and simple ... and it doesn't appear that Twitchy is willing to give up the name.
For example ... If yourself, Corky, Shuff, Soulyss, and Silat decided that the original "objective" of the 80th was not to your liking, would you try to oust Mensa, take the squad name, and re-mold the 80th to your collective "objective" ? ... or do you separate yourself from the squad and start your own squad with your new "objective" ?
Apples and Oranges ... those COs who departed, passed the torch, and returned ... have only returned to the squad because they agree with the "objective" of the squad. If they didn't, they probably would have not re-joined and either formed their own squad or joined a squad who's objective was more to their liking.
Unfortunately for him, we are still a bunch of augering losers that don't take bases.
Lol, that's us most of the time, if there are more than two of us on at once though, things start getting fun. But we DO have fun augering and EPIC FAILing in between those times :D
This thread is like Herpes, one flare up after another :confused:
who's on first? :noidIn your case a hemmeroid :P :D
In your case a hemmeroid :P :D
There's some sheep here in the thread who look a little lost from the herd.
Twitchy was clawing for pity and trying to tear apart what has already been in existence and oinking along happily for the last decade without him. We are not the same POTW that twitchy left behind to fend for itself in AH almost a decade ago (litteraly, our current senior leadership called Skuzzy when the original POTW was abandoned by Twitchy to have the old abandoned squad deleted and the current POTW founded with the same name). Twitchy didn't unintentionaly destroy us the first time, damned if any of us are going to let him intentionaly try in round two. We even listened to Twitchy when he came back, unforutnately we can't say the same was returned. We don't want to change up the POTW or do things any different than what we've been doing for the past decade without him. It's been a pretty damn good decade if we say so ourselves, but unfortunatley our founding leader who abandoned us for almost 10 years to fend and provide for ourselves disagrees. This is why Twitchy is no longer a participant in the POTW message board, as likely any of us with malicious intent would be. It seems he is quickly working for the privilage here on the AH general forums as well.
He is doing everything in his power now to enlist sympathy and persuade people of the general community that are not members of the POTW to support what he wants to do to the POTW. The POTW would like to assure those of you not in POTW that: a) while your concerns are apreciated, the matter is unfortunatley none of your buisness (the same as non-American citizens should have no buisness voting in the president of the United States). b) we are not taking the POTW that have been the way it has been for the past decade and turning it into "Twitchy's Fascist Base Takers - OINK!". The "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko WILL still be the same "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko. c) we are glad to have Twitchy back in the AH community and we still greatly respect and admire Twichy for one day, a very long time ago, starting the POTW name. However that in no way means we're going to bend over and do what you want before taking into account what everyone else in POTW wants and will make the squad in general happier and healthier for another decade.
So now, lets seperate the sheep from the pigs here and end this thread.
There's some sheep here in the thread who look a little lost from the herd.
Twitchy was clawing for pity and trying to tear apart what has already been in existence and oinking along happily for the last decade without him. We are not the same POTW that twitchy left behind to fend for itself in AH almost a decade ago (litteraly, our current senior leadership called Skuzzy when the original POTW was abandoned by Twitchy to have the old abandoned squad deleted and the current POTW founded with the same name). Twitchy didn't unintentionaly destroy us the first time, damned if any of us are going to let him intentionaly try in round two. We even listened to Twitchy when he came back, unforutnately we can't say the same was returned. We don't want to change up the POTW or do things any different than what we've been doing for the past decade without him. It's been a pretty damn good decade if we say so ourselves, but unfortunatley our founding leader who abandoned us for almost 10 years to fend and provide for ourselves disagrees. This is why Twitchy is no longer a participant in the POTW message board, as likely any of us with malicious intent would be. It seems he is quickly working for the privilage here on the AH general forums as well.
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b) we are not taking the POTW that have been the way it has been for the past decade and turning it into "Twitchy's Fascist Base Takers - OINK!". The "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko WILL still be the same "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko. c) we are glad to have Twitchy back in the AH community and we still greatly respect and admire Twichy for one day, a very long time ago, starting the POTW name. However that in no way means we're going to bend over and do what you want before taking into account what everyone else in POTW wants and will make the squad in general happier and healthier for another decade.
So now, lets seperate the sheep from the pigs here and end this thread.
There's some sheep here in the thread who look a little lost from the herd.
Twitchy was clawing for pity and trying to tear apart what has already been in existence and oinking along happily for the last decade without him. We are not the same POTW that twitchy left behind to fend for itself in AH almost a decade ago (litteraly, our current senior leadership called Skuzzy when the original POTW was abandoned by Twitchy to have the old abandoned squad deleted and the current POTW founded with the same name). Twitchy didn't unintentionaly destroy us the first time, damned if any of us are going to let him intentionaly try in round two. We even listened to Twitchy when he came back, unforutnately we can't say the same was returned. We don't want to change up the POTW or do things any different than what we've been doing for the past decade without him. It's been a pretty damn good decade if we say so ourselves, but unfortunatley our founding leader who abandoned us for almost 10 years to fend and provide for ourselves disagrees. This is why Twitchy is no longer a participant in the POTW message board, as likely any of us with malicious intent would be. It seems he is quickly working for the privilage here on the AH general forums as well.
He is doing everything in his power now to enlist sympathy and persuade people of the general community that are not members of the POTW to support what he wants to do to the POTW. The POTW would like to assure those of you not in POTW that: a) while your concerns are apreciated, the matter is unfortunatley none of your buisness (the same as non-American citizens should have no buisness voting in the president of the United States). b) we are not taking the POTW that have been the way it has been for the past decade and turning it into "Twitchy's Fascist Base Takers - OINK!". The "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko WILL still be the same "do-what-ya-want-or-come-join-the-rest-of-us-in-some-fun-oink" POTW as led by Syko. c) we are glad to have Twitchy back in the AH community and we still greatly respect and admire Twichy for one day, a very long time ago, starting the POTW name. However that in no way means we're going to bend over and do what you want before taking into account what everyone else in POTW wants and will make the squad in general happier and healthier for another decade.
So now, lets seperate the sheep from the pigs here and end this thread.
So, you're saying Twitchy was NOT the CO for almost a decade?That is how it is now. When I started (which comparatively wasn't that long ago), I was told all the names from old players were kept in the database and couldn't be re-used. So if you left, let your account go, and wanted to come back sometime later (what I was contemplating), you would have to call HTC HQ to get your old handle reactivated, or come up with a new one. I imagine it used to be the same for squad names ten years ago.
Also, you're saying that Skuzzy had to replace Syko as the CO of POTW because Twitchy's name was still there? Once a CO's account goes inactive, the squad is automatically disbanded. Syko only then needs to send squad invites and have the new squad named the same as was before.
Why is it when I read through this thread it reminds me of the..Surely not . . . :headscratch:
Mother
Of
All
Trolls
Couldn't be they couldn't be that clever....could they?
:noid
Why is it when I read through this thread it reminds me of the..
Mother
Of
All
Trolls
Couldn't be that clever....could they?
:noid
Edit for being a numpty. :D
dude...i've said it before, and to stodd.....i respect the hell outta you guys for being able to be so quiet, about this, in the face of all the poop he's been trying to fling. :aok i think others probably feel the same.Not really
There's some sheep here in the thread who look a little lost from the herd.
(More pig issues that don't need to be aired in public)
So now, lets seperate the sheep from the pigs here and end this thread.
:banana:Do you know why DMGOD is such a nut job?
That's a great way to attempt to end the thread, or at least stop the opinions from being given.
So, you're saying Twitchy was NOT the CO for almost a decade?
Also, you're saying that Skuzzy had to replace Syko as the CO of POTW because Twitchy's name was still there? Once a CO's account goes inactive, the squad is automatically disbanded. Syko only then needs to send squad invites and have the new squad named the same as was before.
I've only heard it through word of mouth and the grapevine within the squad (the same as most members today), however quite a few pigs that were around back then and who were involved in the actual preservation of the squad are still around and active today.
/Is that off topic? :rofl
Do you know why DMGOD is such a nut job?
Do you know why my sig says my in game name?I assume to let people know you have a different in game name then forum name?
I assume to let people know you have a different in game name then forum name?
Sorry I still dont follow.
Do you know why DMGOD is such a nut job?about DMGOD should be directed to someone currently involved with the squad. I cannot answer it.
It means that I don't belong to DM's in game. Your question... about DMGOD should be directed to someone currently involved with the squad. I cannot answer it.I am aware of that. However that still doesnt mean you may not know why.
a great way to attempt to end the thread+1
I am aware of that. However that still doesnt mean you may not know why.
Btw...my monkey would b slap Billy Mays and my dancing bear snacks on cheesehead pus...errr kittens. :D:furious
So on and so forth...
:furious
(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/vincescar.jpg)Billy Mays practicing his aim. Next time it will be a dancing bear.
:furious
(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/vincescar.jpg)Billy Mays practicing his aim. Next time it will be a dancing bear.
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/baboon.jpg):rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Not a single reply in regards to the topic or the OP, just all smart aleks and personal attacks. Classy forum you got going here guys, classy. Game's great as always, this forum is another matter. Flame on fellers, this isn't a potw thread, it's about the base takers/furballers debate that is currently raging and IMO breaking the game up. Thanks for replying though, jerks.
Anyways, too many aces and not enough pilots. Team Players are are far and few between and all that's left of us are called toolshedders now. That's sad really. But I think you're going to find a silent majority is still wanting to return to the war and team oriented aspects of the game, more than you think.
-Twitchy
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
This one is going to be close!
Twitchy hasn't been an active participant in the POTW for many years.... If you want details about what happened (from what I was told) about 7-8 years ago, I've only heard it through word of mouth and the grapevine
I get back to find Syko had been claiming to have run the squad for nearly ten years, telling the other pigs I didn't start the squad in the first place, and literally hiding from me in game on a secret channel and refusing to talk to me in person about it.
Twitchy, please refer to Stodd's sig. You're completely wrong here. :aokJust one boot, and he knows who he is.... Speak of the devil....
Just one boot, and he knows who he is.... Speak of the devil....Sorry but as I said in my post to lute you gave it up when you got back, you said it yourself. Now im slapping myself in the face for not saving that quote from the POTW site
Was wondering when one of the POTW would remember Sol is now a WM and through him I have a pretty decent understanding of the "recent" activities of the POTW.Sorry but Sol couldnt read the private area of the PoTW boards :noid Twitchy said Syko was leading now since he had been gone so long, but had a change of mind once he found that some were "free-thinking" and not all about base taking anymore
Honestly, as fractured as the squad has been, and considering the current incarnation(s) of the Pigs is under 2yrs old, y'all should prob. just create your own thing, or embrase Twitchy.
The ONLY player that has been a Pig for more than 2 yrs is Twitchy (and that one guy that is in Twitchys squad which is prob. a shade of Twitchys <ducks>) and in all honesty, it is Twitchy's squad.
His idea, his name, he was the only one that has been a pig for any great length of time (gawd i've done this way too long when I consider 2 years a "short" amout of time) and it is his baby.
If twitchy wants to become a base taking squad, help him, start your own squad, or join a squad with similar interests like Sol did.
(WM's are not recruiting btw)
At the end of the day, the bottom line is that Twitchy started the Pigs and it is his right as founder/CO to do whatever he wants with the squad.
Then he wanted our sqaud to be more like the Devils Rejects and I think alot of people know how me and acouple of POTW feel about those guys :rolleyes:
IMHO opinion...we all play different. There are a good deal of dorks that want to play Twitchy's and Dogfite's way.dont get soft on me now Assi, They deserve to be degraded for their blasphemies against good furballs and taking bases without anyone defending them :rock
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Babalon, I was gone for about a year. Syko has been going on about having run the squad for 9 years, so whatever grapvine you're hearing this through is full of sour grapes. Syko told me when I got back, my squad was going to be there, and there were no problems with my return to command my squad.This sounds real....and I am all for a congressional inquiry! <S> Twitchy!
As to running the squad in some kind of a new direction, no, all I wanted was our cohesion back, and ONE of the members who isn't who they say they are off the roster. I heard the rumors of this 'list of guys' I was going to boot, and it's rubbish. Just one boot, and he knows who he is.
In fact the ONLY members of this squad who are qualified to comment on our 10 year history with any credibility are Myself, Syko, Citation, bustr, Aspen, Bentnail, mrmeaty, Habu55, and Might... Bentnail, Meaty, and Might were new-ish when I left.
The name is mine, I started the Pigs on the Wing, I ran it daily for nearly a decade, and I left because I hit rock bottom financially, literally fishing for supper at one point. I get back to find Syko had been claiming to have run the squad for nearly ten years, telling the other pigs I didn't start the squad in the first place, and literally hiding from me in game on a secret channel and refusing to talk to me in person about it.
Yeah the name is mine, and at this point, that's all I am asking for out of this deal, having been done the way I was, it's all I want.
-Twitchy
This sounds real....and I am all for a congressional inquiry! <S> Twitchy!Thats funny. he put Meaty in there when I have more time in the pigs then him(no offense meaty), he is just bias and wont realize times have changed
Found another POTW CO that I have edited to my post a few above this one.
Geez y'all have gone through a lot of diff. wings and CO's and such.
I now know how someone can make some of the claims I have seen in this thread 'cause I bet most of the POTW don't have a clue about the actual history of their squad. It is a convoluted mess.
But there has been one CO that has always been the CO of a POTW squad for 7 yrs now.
(and apparently the founder)
my squad... my return to command... my squad... I wanted... The name is mine... I started the Pigs on the Wing... I ran it daily... the name is mine... I want.
-Twitchy
Just one boot, and he knows who he is.... Speak of the devil....
I felt a few things needed to be cleared up here. The 35+ active players that compromise the Pigs as you all know them tried and failed to mend the rift with our former El Presidente. Not just one of us, but many of us tried to reason this situation through to no avail. I have no personal beef with Twitchy, and he knows that it was my sincerest wish that this be resolved amicably for all involved. This whole discussion has been rife with lies, half-truths, and facts that are obscured by time.
I know the following to be fact with no embellishment:
Did he found the original POTW squad? Yes.
Did Twitchy leave the game for personal reasons almost 2 years ago and his squad was disbanded? Yes.
Did Pigs try to stay in contact with him during his absence? Yes.
Did 1BDspade pick up the POTW name to start the squad up again? Yes.
Did Syko claim himself as founder of the Pigs? No.
Was Twitchy embraced with open arms upon his return? Yes.
Did multiple Pigs try to reason with him on the issues involved? Yes.
Was Twitchy open to discussion on the issues? No.
Did the Pigs as a group decide to remove him from leadership? Yes.
Are the current Pigs united in their stance to continue as the POTW? Yes.
Is there anything that will change the Pigs minds? No.
I felt a few things needed to be cleared up here. The 35+ active players that compromise the Pigs as you all know them tried and failed to mend the rift with our former El Presidente. Not just one of us, but many of us tried to reason this situation through to no avail. I have no personal beef with Twitchy, and he knows that it was my sincerest wish that this be resolved amicably for all involved. This whole discussion has been rife with lies, half-truths, and facts that are obscured by time.Do i care about your squad drama? NO!!
I know the following to be fact with no embellishment:
Did he found the original POTW squad? Yes.
Did Twitchy leave the game for personal reasons almost 2 years ago and his squad was disbanded? Yes.
Did Pigs try to stay in contact with him during his absence? Yes.
Did 1BDspade pick up the POTW name to start the squad up again? Yes.
Did Syko claim himself as founder of the Pigs? No.
Was Twitchy embraced with open arms upon his return? Yes.
Did multiple Pigs try to reason with him on the issues involved? Yes.
Was Twitchy open to discussion on the issues? No.
Did the Pigs as a group decide to remove him from leadership? Yes.
Are the current Pigs united in their stance to continue as the POTW? Yes.
Is there anything that will change the Pigs minds? No.
Do i care about your squad drama? NO!!
Do i care about your squad drama? NO!!
Ya other than Babalon's wild exaggerations, I think the Care-o-meter is without a pulse. The fact that adult males would go through such soap opera like drama was briefly amusing. This is dead, time for some new drama.
It wasn't very nice of them to steal AoM and Sapp forum attention was it. :D
This is dead, time for some new drama.
It wasn't very nice of them to steal AoM and Sapp forum attention was it. :D
Gay Muppet marriages?we must have told you "no we're sorry, we are full. not accepting new members"
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I dunno CAP, once wasn't enough this thread may need a double dose of "the toe" before it'll end. :)
we must have told you "no we're sorry, we are full. not accepting new members"You didn't have tell me you were full,we all knew that.
got something better..........
SOL75!!!!! where ya at sir? need to see your finger vs da50 prop pic please!
:devil :bolt: :noid
Has a new king of thread closers been crowned? :uhoh
Did he found the original POTW squad?
Yes, it's my squad, my idea, my name and nearly nine years of my time.
Did Twitchy leave the game for personal reasons almost 2 years ago and his squad was disbanded?
Yup, and Syko and I agreed that I would return to command. It was a little over a year ago, not 7 years, and not nine years.
Did Pigs try to stay in contact with him during his absence?
Yup, and Syko knew I was comming back.
Did 1BDspade pick up the POTW name to start the squad up again?
Yeah. Could 1BDspade have started his own squad?
Did Syko claim himself as founder of the Pigs?
Nope, he lied claiming to have been the CO of the Pigs for Nine years, and lied about me be not being the Founder of the Pigs, this started about right after I left actually.
Was Twitchy embraced with open arms upon his return?
Yeah, as long as I didn't Invite anyone to the Squad, or try to remove a player who was being a smart arse, or try to lead them any in any way, shape, or form.
Did multiple Pigs try to reason with him on the issues involved?
No, actually hell no. My issues were few and reasonable, the cohesion of the squad, and one member that decided to start trash talking me from day one of my return who needed booted.
Was Twitchy open to discussion on the issues?
We did discuss the issues at length, my posts on the POTW forum were deleted, and Syko hid from me for two weeks. I literally BEGGED Syko to talk to me and he decided to have Bentnail pass notes for him like third grader instead.
Did the Pigs as a group decide to remove him from leadership?
LOL, Yeah. Could they have started their own squad instead of stealing someone else's idea and letting their 'leader' get away with lying for over a year?
Are the current Pigs united in their stance to continue as the POTW?
Start your own squad guys, or simply be known as Syko's Scavengers. Anyone who's played the game for more than year knows damned well who's squad it is. Syko literally told me he was jealous of me once, I didn't think much of it at the time, but now I think I understand his true motivations and it wasn't about the Pigs at all, it was about Syko. Why would he claim to have run the squad for a decade and lie about me not being the founder, then hide from me like a coward when I got back and delete my posts?
Is there anything that will change the Pigs minds?
Myself, Citation, and Habu55 are the ONLY legitimate Pigs at this point, no, we're not changing our minds. I am recruiting though and I will be rebuilding the Pigs on the Wing. If you're interested, let me know. There will be no hard feelings, and with the exception of BiKrupolarinski, I will gladly take any of you guys on board, including Syko. The one and only requirement for membership is cohesion, it's all I've ever asked of my squad.
If you guys want to fly under Syko's flag, that's all well and good, but Syko's name is quickly and rightfully becomming mud in this game. He had no right to lie, and he had no right to take the name for himself and claim my legacy as his own.
I understand you guys are friends, I understand that alot of the new pigs only know Syko as a leader, but you need to understand what Syko did was a dirty business, and he took something that didn't belong to him. Change your name to Syko's Sycophants if you like, I don't care. All I want is the name of the POTW restored to the rightful owner, and to lead my squad again. That was the understanding Syko and I had until I found out what he had been doing behind my back while I was gone. Change the name, or accept the label... or better yet, I'll send every one of you guys an invite to the legitimate Pigs squad, and we can keep on keeping on.
Stealing someone elses idea is hardly something to be proud of, stabbing your ten year friend in the back and lying about it is even less. If that's what you guys want to inherit in Syko's leadership, then there's nothing I can do about it, but like I told Syko, everybody is going to know what he's done.
-Twitchy
I felt a few things needed to be cleared up here. The 35+ active players that compromise the Pigs as you all know them tried and failed to mend the rift with our former El Presidente. Not just one of us, but many of us tried to reason this situation through to no avail. I have no personal beef with Twitchy, and he knows that it was my sincerest wish that this be resolved amicably for all involved. This whole discussion has been rife with lies, half-truths, and facts that are obscured by time.The name has been somewhat tainted as a result of all this. A fresh start may avoid much of what will likely follow. If twitchy started the squad with the understanding it was his when he came back, it's his. Keep your squad together under a different banner. These things have a habit of haunting a squad. Just a suggestion.
I know the following to be fact with no embellishment:
Did he found the original POTW squad? Yes.
Did Twitchy leave the game for personal reasons almost 2 years ago and his squad was disbanded? Yes.
Did Pigs try to stay in contact with him during his absence? Yes.
Did 1BDspade pick up the POTW name to start the squad up again? Yes.
Did Syko claim himself as founder of the Pigs? No.
Was Twitchy embraced with open arms upon his return? Yes.
Did multiple Pigs try to reason with him on the issues involved? Yes.
Was Twitchy open to discussion on the issues? No.
Did the Pigs as a group decide to remove him from leadership? Yes.
Are the current Pigs united in their stance to continue as the POTW? Yes.
Is there anything that will change the Pigs minds? No.
The name has been somewhat tainted as a result of all this. A fresh start may avoid much of what will likely follow. If twitchy started the squad with the understanding it was his when he came back, it's his. Keep your squad together under a different banner. These things have a habit of haunting a squad. Just a suggestion.Pigs are stubborn creatures. :D
Pigs are stubborn creatures. :DCool, the job comes with a life time supply of Preparation H :D
Oh and Bear hand the squad over to me DO IT ! :mad: The Gods command it. :old:
What's in a name? The ppl are the squad, not the name. It's not like it's all that great of a name anyway. My opinion which I admit means nothing would be for the non-land grabbing pigs to make up a new name and move on. You guys have really taken a stand against being lopsided tards and the community's respect for you has gone way up. You are just one step away from coming out of this thing with high regard in everyone's mind. Just ditch the name and win.
What's in a name? The ppl are the squadi have to agree
Cool, the job comes with a life time supply of Preparation H :D:uhoh couldn't I start off being quatermaster of beer and coffee. :D
What's in a name? The ppl are the squad, not the name. It's not like it's all that great of a name anyway. My opinion which I admit means nothing would be for the non-land grabbing pigs to make up a new name and move on. You guys have really taken a stand against being lopsided tards and the community's respect for you has gone way up. You are just one step away from coming out of this thing with high regard in everyone's mind. Just ditch the name and win.
Why does everyone give Krup a new name?
BiKrupolarinski
Krupnizzal
Kruptastic
Kerpernicus
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Just ditch the name and win.It really is that easy. :aok
The name has been somewhat tainted as a result of all this. A fresh start may avoid much of what will likely follow. If twitchy started the squad with the understanding it was his when he came back, it's his. Keep your squad together under a different banner. These things have a habit of haunting a squad. Just a suggestion.This x1000 :aok
It really is that easy. :aokThen why dont you do it? other then you made a name after o PF song?............ Did you recruit any of the current people other then Syko and Habu? How can you say Habu is a "true pig" when he only has been on sqaud vox once......?
Is JG7 taken by any sqauds right now? I always liked that wing :rockJG7 was retrained to the Me 262 from bombers (originally KG7). So that may be appropriate :)
What I haven't seen here, is what Twitchy's long-view of the squad is, vs. where it is now? I see big, huge, multi-winged, mostly base-taking mob, with some furballers....what would Twitchy have done differently?
Kicked Junky in the nads for being a furballing tard! :aokAt least im not an alt monkey, pick, gang tard!!! :devil
At least im not an alt monkey, pick, gang tard!!! :devil
And he didnt kick me.....I left :aok
Zach, JG 53 isn't represented. If you do that you gotta fly German metal. 109s preferably ;)Just for you Phil :aok , but looks like Krup needs me after all, he keeps sending me pms and sqaud invites and yea you know Krup can be ........persuasive :devil
If not you could start Pigs on the wing pt. 2
y'know the one where it bookends the animals album.....
I know that you care.....for me yadda yadda yadda
or maybe you should call the squad " Bike " after my favorite PF song
Twitch trying to destroy a squad and yet talks of cohesion. That is just odd.
In AH all you own is your account.
Hitech can remove that if necessary.
If you change your name someone else can get that name.
If you DISBAND a squad then someone else can take it.
If a squad grows in a direction your not happy with.... move to another.
If you want to wear a crown then start a new squad... you can even name it Twitchy's Squad so that everyone will know that squad is all about you and not the group. All the members can even be named according to the rank you bestow on them like this... twitchy1, twitchy2, etc. All with small case "t" so that everyone will know who's the boss. Then you can send out a list of words they can use in conjunction with your name and let them know that they must pay tribute to you on the public boards at least once a day. The ideas are endless for the "twitchy loves twitchy campaign".
Maybe twitch can take the 2 pigs that want to follow him in base taking to start that squad.
Cohesion in a squad is much more than simply what one person wants. It is what the group wants.
I smell a troll, and her name is Shuffler... :D
I smell a troll, and her name is Shuffler... :DA little Summer's Eve might help :D
Shouldn't all bears be in hibernation now?My rent check bounced :D
Shouldn't all bears be in hibernation now?
so....do we make it to 30 pages?
My rent check bounced :DTell em you'll have it next friday. Global warming NOOOO! Save the polar bears. Even though they'd eat you if they got the chance. :D
Do bears south of Mason Dixon hibernate for shorter periods of time?
Bears don't actually hibernate. :neener:
Bears don't actually hibernate. :neener:Well...after mid December, my trash can is safe
Well...after mid December, my trash can is safe
Shooting sleeping bears with tranqs. Thats just rude Mtnman. :D
I was ready to trip someone if I needed to (I didn't want to be the slowest to clear the area if they got irked, and waist-deep snow can be a hindrance when you need to flee).<Blinding light.Deep voice> Grasshopper,you have truly learned the meaning of situational awareness. I am pleased.
Going fishing in Alaska.... the first thing you learn is to take friends you can outrun.Rifle's for big game, pistol's to slow your friends down :D
Rifle's for big game, pistol's to slow your friends down :D
If you want to wear a crown then start a new squad... you can even name it Twitchy's Squad so that everyone will know that squad is all about you and not the group. All the members can even be named according to the rank you bestow on them like this... twitchy1, twitchy2, etc. All with small case "t" so that everyone will know who's the boss. Then you can send out a list of words they can use in conjunction with your name and let them know that they must pay tribute to you on the public boards at least once a day. The ideas are endless for the "twitchy loves twitchy campaign".
Or I could name it Army of Muppets and go around saying that I was the CO of the muppets for nine years, and that Kappa never started it in the first place... but then most folks would probably know better than that, and I just wouldn't do something that crappy to begin with. Of course if I could delete posts off the muppets' site and recruit a whole new generation of muppets under my command like Pol Pot in Cambodia, then maybe I'd get away with it huh? :OYou could be Pork Pot :D
-Twitchy
Or I could name it Army of Muppets and go around saying that I was the CO of the muppets for nine years, and that Kappa never started it in the first place... but then most folks would probably know better than that, and I just wouldn't do something that crappy to begin with. Of course if I could delete posts off the muppets' site and recruit a whole new generation of muppets under my command like Pol Pot in Cambodia, then maybe I'd get away with it huh? :O
-Twitchy
Having base takers acting like little Napoleons on country channel...$15/monthWhat's in your wallet? :D
Having said base takers trying to tell you you are less of a man for not playing the game to win the war, comparing you to those they served with in real life and did not like, asking you why there are "objectives" if winning the war isn't the ultimate goal, claiming you are a furballer just because you don't want to see them constantly whine on country channel about winning the war following their orders...15$/month
Having a guy that lost his squad try to berate you for these things after 30 embarrassing pages that highlight the reasons for his failure in game by being one of these Napoleons...priceless.
TY Twitchy. :salute
Best bear experience I had was when a guide, his wife(cooK), and my dad were heading into the Tetons on horseback for over a week. We didnt notice the fresh bearclaw marks in the tree until the horses got spooked. When we saw the marks and realized we were looking up at them on horseback we knew that being unarmed sucked.
We tied our horses far from our camp, and we tied our food high in the air. I learned to function throught the days with little sleep at night. By the last few nights I didnt fear the bears. They stink like nothing you have smelled if you get close, but you get used to them.
What I'm trying to say is that Furballers won this thread and also stole the OP's squad. :banana:
page 5. :P
Edit: Page 30, Oink!
"Furballers", "babynappers", "basetakers", "raiders-of-your-daughter's-innocence", "squadtakers"... which one is it now? Will the community make up its mind already? :neener:Which POTW are you in?
Edit: Page 30, Oink!
POTW II (2nd) Wing, Waystin2's wing, send all complaints and court injunctions to him.More sauce please :D
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/images/squads/approved/waystin2.gif)
More sauce please :DIll give you some of my special sauce :devil
Ill give you some of my special sauce :devilIt hasn't aged enough :D
It hasn't aged enough :D
Twitchy says I think Im stalking him........ :noid
:devil
Remember last night when Dogfite said I wanted to be in his squad? :roflThat was a good laugh :rofl
Remember last night when Dogfite said I wanted to be in his squad? :rofl1Assi :aok
1Assi :aok:lol
:lol:huh
31 oink
:huhWhat you lookin :huh at?
What you lookin :huh at?
What you lookin :huh at?
oJUNKYo :aok
oJUNKYo :aok:rofl
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,260010.msg3226136.html#msg3226136It's amazing, to even try to pull that off in the first place.
So after nine years of playing Aces High as C.O. with Pigs On The Wing
It's amazing, to even try to pull that off in the first place.The drama queen has done a lil diggin, diggin for page 32
1Assi :aok
I see twitchy has yet to get his panties untwisted.He told me he was in the Navy, so they are probably knotted up real tight :devil
LOL.......Skuzzy nullified twitchy's claim to the squad name in this thread:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,279589.90.html
Last post before he locked it: "Just for the record, no one owns a squad name." :neener:
Now that THAT little issue is settle, can this thread die?
LOL.......Skuzzy nullified twitchy's claim to the squad name in this thread::rofl :aok :bolt:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,279589.90.html
Last post before he locked it: "Just for the record, no one owns a squad name." :neener:
Now that THAT little issue is settle, can this thread die?
I see twitchy has yet to get his panties untwisted.You're right, I'm pissed off about it.
This should be good for a few more pages now :aok
pI hear they did. Previous fellow disbanded it and the current folks revised it.
Why not start their own squad and come up with their own idea for a name rather than taking credit for nine years of my reputation?
-Twitchy
I hear they did. Previous fellow disbanded it and the current folks revised it.Funny you should mention this
You're right, I'm pissed off about it.Move on... they did. Start a new saquad. If Ohhh so many desire you and your style of play they will flock to you in droves. Call it twitchy's raiders or some such but make sure your name is in there. If you stop play for any length of time I'm quite sure NOBODY will want to take credit for that.
I built that squad for nearly a decade, and I come back to see Syko taking my place like a doppleganger, hiding from me in game for weeks, and telling people I never started it in the first place. Sure, nobody owns a squad name, but after nearly ten years, you'd think people would posess a little more decency than to pull something like that. If POTW are happy flying under that kind of flag, then so be it, but like others have said, simply change the name and walk away from it with some kind of honor intact in the situation here. POTW wasn't meant to be a loose group of assorted furballers scattered across the map, they've taken one of the finest and most cohesive and primarily base taking squadrons in the game and in less than a year, completely screwed the pooch. Why call it Pigs on the Wing anymore to begin with?
Why not start their own squad and come up with their own idea for a name rather than taking credit for nine years of my reputation?
Yeah panties in a wad, little upset, whatever you want to call it, it's a rotten thing to do to somebody, and some of you guys are supporting this mess?
-Twitchy
Move on... they did. Start a new saquad. If Ohhh so many desire you and your style of play they will flock to you in droves. Call it twitchy's raiders or some such but make sure your name is in there. If you stop play for any length of time I'm quite sure NOBODY will want to take credit for that.
That means doodily-squat ... I own the DFC web domain name ... but I don't own, nor rule supreme over the DFC simply because I coughed up the measly $31.00 to create the web domain.
I hear they did. Previous fellow disbanded it and the current folks revised it.
More revisons are in process to distance ourselves from the POTW name. I will post as info becomes available.
More revisons are in process to distance ourselves from the POTW name. I will post as info becomes available.
Pick
On
Twitchy
Wing
or
Piss
Off
Twitchy
Wing
???
Previously
Owned by
Twitchy
Wing
I believe the current vote is in favor of "The Pigs".
OWs
Oinkless Wonders
ABTs
All Bacon Taken
It is not written in stone, but there is about 40 pilots that have always known themselves as Pigs. Hard to envison anything else, ya know. I agree the POTW name has been mudded, hence the ongoing discussions within the squad. Imagine the Muppet's in a similar mess. You might understand...
It is not written in stone, but there is about 40 pilots that have always known themselves as Pigs. Hard to envison anything else, ya know. I agree the POTW name has been mudded, hence the ongoing discussions within the squad. Imagine the Muppet's in a similar mess. You might understand...
I do understand, it suks this is happnin, I fought a few of the POTW, and most seem like good fellas, to bad "T" crapped all over it.Yes he did, and hes fighting for that crap.....but my first and only true sqaud has been with the Pigs so the name feels like home in game to me......How can something soo good come to an end, well they always do
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holy frikkin wall o text paragraphs man !
Well I'm a pig and I could care less what anyone thinks about me or the squad. I have built friendships in the squad and outside of the squad and that's all that matters. As far as the other people I don't live with you so think what you want to because I don't care.
When you get down to the nuts and bolts it's all about the friendships mixed with alittle fun that keeps us here, I think the social status is blown out of proportion "who cares".
It is not written in stone, but there is about 40 pilots that have always known themselves as Pigs. Hard to envison anything else, ya know. I agree the POTW name has been mudded, hence the ongoing discussions within the squad. Imagine the Muppet's in a similar mess. You might understand...
lol Sorry wrag but it was needed.
Pilots
On
The
Wrag
lol Sorry wrag but it was needed.
Yeah, I got lost somewhere in the drivel too. I must not be the choosen one. :rofl
Pilotshehe.
On
The
Wrag
I vote you change the name to 357th Pigs on the Wing+1 :aok
WOOT WOOT we jump countries now wooot wooot :rockAND GOATS!
More revisons are in process to distance ourselves from the POTW name. I will post as info becomes available.:aok
~ First Sargeant-POTW Second Wing ~<cough cough sErgeant;>
Well twitchy, looks like you have your name. Now the pigs on the wing will surley die in a couple months when you leave again. :aok
first i'd like to state that i'm posting this against the wish's of my squady's. i've held my toung long enoughYou squaddies were right :lol
twitchy. your a cry baby. plane and simple. if you start a bussiness retire and sell it. you can't come back in a year or 2 take it back and demand it to change. witch is what you were trying to do with POTW. you left Syko took over and made the squad into somethin you never could. we are furballers base takers, GVers, what ever alows us to get our $15 worth. we all do our own thing but still back each other up when needed. you couldn't accept this lil fact when you came back so we as a squad booted you. and although we MAY LET you take the name POTW we are still going to be pigs. and the OINK stay's with us. don't like it. cry about it in another post. or take it up with me in the DA. <FINGER> TWITCH TARD
I'm sorry. But there's an old saying EVERYONE here ought to know.
You don't twittle another man's wife. Plain and simple.
Twitch started the Pigs. He may not be the de facto leader, but he is ALWAYS the founder. I don't know what the situation is, but what's his is his. The POTW have been an AHII staple for years, and I hate to see them go. And to anyone calling twitch a menstruating banana; You can't blame a man fighting to defend what's his.
That is all.
yea but if you divorce your wife and she remarries do you have controle of there relationship? yea he founded it but he also abandoned it for almost 2 years. syko saved it
Kurtank I suggest you drop that name as it was used a few years back.Can't tell if that's a joke or serious. :lol
I was going by his earlier posts, where he mentioned a "temporary" leave. I didn't see "divorce" or "retire", but I could be mistaken. I don't care enough to look back.
The important thing is the "not/naught" aspect of his posts.
The wife thing- if she remarries me, I'd say we're back to "equals" right? Or does she now control me? If it was going to be that way, I wouldn't re-marry her. How would that effect my name?
IMO, if he really did come up with the name originally, it's the nice thing to do (giving it back). I wouldn't say he "owns" the name, but I wouldn't say the rest of you do either. Don't attach more weight to my opinion than it deserves though; if you don't like it, just ignore it.
Stop with the metaphors... its not a wife or a job its a squad. It has evolved and is no longer in his control now be done with it. He chose to give up all rights and command when he decided to leave us, no matter what the reason. We keep the squad and the name, you keep the "change" Mr.Obama... er herm I meant twitchy..
MrMeaty
So no SissyBoy NancyPants Gang?
first i'd like to state that i'm posting this against the wish's of my squady's. i've held my toung long enoughI read his posts, and saw his little campaign ads for 'President Syko', and the simple truth of the matter is that Syko had somewhat dishonest delusions of granduer and rather than actually leading the squad, he formed his own elite score wing and let waystin lead the rest of you guys... Syko was my best friend for nine years, until the day I read his posts on the forum and what he had been saying while I was gone, it was pretty devastating stuff to be honest with you. I'm sitting here drinking coffee from a Squad CO coffee mug he sent me right now and it's not a pleasant thing to go through, but he knows what the score is.
twitchy. your a cry baby. plane and simple. if you start a bussiness retire and sell it. you can't come back in a year or 2 take it back and demand it to change. witch is what you were trying to do with POTW. you left Syko took over and made the squad into somethin you never could. we are furballers base takers, GVers, what ever alows us to get our $15 worth. we all do our own thing but still back each other up when needed. you couldn't accept this lil fact when you came back so we as a squad booted you. and although we MAY LET you take the name POTW we are still going to be pigs. and the OINK stay's with us. don't like it. cry about it in another post. or take it up with me in the DA. <FINGER> TWITCH TARD
. Pigs travel in a herd, I'm sorry if that was too much for you guys to handle but it takes a little commitment above and beyond the ordinary, but that's the one single thing that made us POTW.Not for the last two years...................oh and yea we stuck in a herd, all the way over to rook land :rofl
-Twitchy
<finger> right back at ya :aok
Can't tell if that's a joke or serious. :lol
I think 40 is still a possibility ;)
fyi i never heard syko say or take credit for running the squad,he never said i founded the potw or told us he ran it for 9 years so you need to get off that high horse twitchy
I read his posts, and saw his little campaign ads for 'President Syko', and the simple truth of the matter is that Syko had somewhat dishonest delusions of granduer and rather than actually leading the squad, he formed his own elite score wing and let waystin lead the rest of you guys... Syko was my best friend for nine years, until the day I read his posts on the forum and what he had been saying while I was gone, it was pretty devastating stuff to be honest with you. I'm sitting here drinking coffee from a Squad CO coffee mug he sent me right now and it's not a pleasant thing to go through, but he knows what the score is.(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/cute-puppy-pictures-blah-blah-talking.jpg)
For nine years squat, the cohesion of the squad was our only requirement, and that was what made the POTW. Yeah he turned it in to something, but it wasn't Pigs on the Wing, it was Syko's Autonomous Collective. The only changes I wanted to make was to get rid of one smart alek, and bring the squad back into cohesion where it belonged. Doing your own thing is fine, hey I spend 15 bucks just like you do, but doing your own thing isn't what POTW was about, and Syko knew that when he 'took over'.
Syko could have simply started his own squad, any player can. Rather than starting his own, he chose to use and claim credit for the squad's 10 year legacy, sorry but that one thing is completely unacceptable to me.
Like I said before, any player, upon joining the game can choose to start their own squad, but not surprisingly most choose to join an established squad, and when you figure out why that is you can begin to understand the signifigance of your role as a CO and a squad leader. I didn't lead POTW for nine years by being a draconian dictator, but the squad didn't last as long as it did by letting the members fly around and do whatever they wanted. When the Pigs fly, they do so in a herd, or they have no right calling themselves Pigs on the Wing in the first place, Syko included. He used to boot people himself for that very reason FYI.
I'm sorry you don't know me better, I'm actually a pretty decent guy, and I am, or well, used to be a hell of a good squad leader. I will be rebuilding the Pigs on the Wing, and all old the Pigs are welcome, no questions asked. I don't care if you oink or not, I know who oinked the first oink, and it wasn't Syko or myself, but I started the squad and named it, and built it around one simple concept, cohesion. Play for score, just pick a name that doesn't have a ten year history on this game already. Pigs travel in a herd, I'm sorry if that was too much for you guys to handle but it takes a little commitment above and beyond the ordinary, but that's the one single thing that made us POTW.
-Twitchy
<finger> right back at ya :aok
well lute you just know it all,all your threads you know everthing about every game name,squad,time and place just stfu allready.i know this is why u pay every month so you can talk smack on this forum
some wish you would follow your own 4 letter advice, i bet..... oh mighty i been here 8 years newb....
naw id rather piss everbody off and dont care about it one bit.and what can you all do about this...not a dam thing.enjoy
We also added a simple "ignore user" feature. Not exactly intuitive, as you have to add the user manually to an ignore list located in your "Profile->Personal Message Options".
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i can't type in english! can someone tell me how?!. maybe tootie fruitie lutie can teach me :devil or even better a guy so called name bear. maybe he has killed one before, close encounter with one, chased by one, got chased by one maybe not :roflJust trying to figure out what the hell you're talking about
Maybe I'm mistaken but, I thought Skuzzy had a very wise rule by which he locked threads for the best intrests of the community.
Rule 000dumbasastump: Don't air personal dirty laundry between yourself and another player, players, squad(s) or your own squad in the AH Forums.
This thread has become a collosal honey pot. Most of us have been caught so far. Skuzzy is either very busy helping with the WWI arena release, or we are about to be taught one of those 3rd grade Ms. Kittenskinner lessons.
It's probably been kept on life support because he knows you guys will just take over another thread with this stuff if he locks this one. :aok
It's probably been kept on life support because he knows you guys will just take over another thread with this stuff if he locks this one. :aok
Maybe I'm mistaken but, I thought Skuzzy had a very wise rule by which he locked threads for the best intrests of the community.Well it was pretty much dead until one of your guys revived it :frown:
Rule 000dumbasastump: Don't air personal dirty laundry between yourself and another player, players, squad(s) or your own squad in the AH Forums.
This thread has become a collosal honey pot. Most of us have been caught so far. Skuzzy is either very busy helping with the WWI arena release, or we are about to be taught one of those 3rd grade Ms. Kittenskinner lessons.
Well it was pretty much dead until one of your guys revived it :frown:
well lute you just know it all,all your threads you know everthing about every game name,squad,time and place just stfu allready.i know this is why u pay every month so you can talk smack on this forum
I'll add to the thread and page count only because this guy, when proven wrong resorts to name calling. As a favorite friend of mine says "What a maroon!"
Well it was pretty much dead until one of your guys revived it :frown:(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee19/KimCandy2/Funny/1e1502.gif)
Pretty soon we will see Skuzzy: This one is done. OR Skuzzy: This one has run its course.
:devil
It's probably been kept on life support because he knows you guys will just take over another thread with this stuff if he locks this one. :aok
Maybe Skuzzy's using this thread as bait. Maybe it'll be locked, but with all of us still in it, instead of locking everyone out!:noid
Think about it- his job would be much easier if he started to lock threads that way.
nah.....he prolly comes in every morning, reads this, then goes and hides in the corner.Maybe he turns the computer off and just walks away ! :old:
Maybe he turns the computer off and just walks away ! :old:
41?
Easily
I read his posts, and saw his little campaign ads for 'President Syko', and the simple truth of the matter is that Syko had somewhat dishonest delusions of granduer and rather than actually leading the squad, he formed his own elite score wing and let waystin lead the rest of you guys... Syko was my best friend for nine years, until the day I read his posts on the forum and what he had been saying while I was gone, it was pretty devastating stuff to be honest with you. I'm sitting here drinking coffee from a Squad CO coffee mug he sent me right now and it's not a pleasant thing to go through, but he knows what the score is.
For nine years squat, the cohesion of the squad was our only requirement, and that was what made the POTW. Yeah he turned it in to something, but it wasn't Pigs on the Wing, it was Syko's Autonomous Collective. The only changes I wanted to make was to get rid of one smart alek, and bring the squad back into cohesion where it belonged. Doing your own thing is fine, hey I spend 15 bucks just like you do, but doing your own thing isn't what POTW was about, and Syko knew that when he 'took over'.
Syko could have simply started his own squad, any player can. Rather than starting his own, he chose to use and claim credit for the squad's 10 year legacy, sorry but that one thing is completely unacceptable to me.
Like I said before, any player, upon joining the game can choose to start their own squad, but not surprisingly most choose to join an established squad, and when you figure out why that is you can begin to understand the signifigance of your role as a CO and a squad leader. I didn't lead POTW for nine years by being a draconian dictator, but the squad didn't last as long as it did by letting the members fly around and do whatever they wanted. When the Pigs fly, they do so in a herd, or they have no right calling themselves Pigs on the Wing in the first place, Syko included. He used to boot people himself for that very reason FYI.
I'm sorry you don't know me better, I'm actually a pretty decent guy, and I am, or well, used to be a hell of a good squad leader. I will be rebuilding the Pigs on the Wing, and all old the Pigs are welcome, no questions asked. I don't care if you oink or not, I know who oinked the first oink, and it wasn't Syko or myself, but I started the squad and named it, and built it around one simple concept, cohesion. Play for score, just pick a name that doesn't have a ten year history on this game already. Pigs travel in a herd, I'm sorry if that was too much for you guys to handle but it takes a little commitment above and beyond the ordinary, but that's the one single thing that made us POTW.
-Twitchy
<finger> right back at ya Thumbs UP!
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Can somebody summarize the last 10 pages for me?At At At, not untill I score + 10 on my post count. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Ah, on second thought, Skarzzybat please kill this thang!!!!
Can somebody summarize the last 10 pages for me?
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first off. we have cohesion. we do our own thing but the second someone calls for us we join up. it's rare to see a pig alone not to say it don't happen. syko does lead the pigs and does a great job at it. when you left the squad was nearly gone. look at the numbers now. we have a scoreing wing. and any pig that want's can join it as long as he can hold a score of around 100. waystin just happens to be the co thats on the most. and is leader of 2nd wing.and a great freind to all the pigs. when syko's on we fallow him. this all shows how long you been away. you haven't seen the system syko set up. a sytem that workes. we evan tryed letting you take over and fallowing you. but you couldn't accept the fact that alote of us felt takeing base after base after base with only the goal to reset the map is boring and pointless. and you were mad cause we didn't want to do it 24/7. none of us said you wern't the founder. but most of us never flew with you untill your return. and as far as 1 smart mouthed guy. i saw the list. it was a few more then 1. you just need to get over it and accept that the squad you started died when abanded it and left syko to rebuild it. your just mad cause you couldn't do what syko has done and are trying to take credit for another mans work. if you were so great how many people are in your new basterd wing? how many pig's new or old fallowed you and left syko? NONE
<finger>twitch tard
one run-on paragraph with spelling errors that would make HiTech cringe ?
Is there something in the POTW doctrine that states that if you are to post on the BBS it must be only one run-on paragraph with spelling errors that would make HiTech cringe ?
Shhhhhhhh listen... you can almost hear it comin'
Is there something in the POTW doctrine that states that if you are to post on the BBS it must be only one run-on paragraph with spelling errors that would make HiTech cringe ?
Man this thread is lame.... but Assi's signature pic thing is not :D ... new direction who has the best signature picture!:headscratch:
Slapshot were you ever a Pigstomper? Cause you sure making pigs SQUEEEEEEEEEE now.
Pigstompers were a good outfit, wasn't 1ijac a member?
ack-ack
Pigstompers were a good outfit, wasn't 1ijac a member?Yes sir he was/is/always will be. One of the nicest people to ever play the game.
ack-ack
Yes sir he was/is/always will be. One of the nicest people to ever play the game.
Pigstompers were a good outfit, wasn't 1ijac a member?
If I remember correct I think 1ijac was with the efw-sog in AW (or for part of the time),... when AW quit I came to AH for 2 months I flew with the efw-sog, the efw-sog flew with the pigstompers quite abit. But the thats been long time ago now.
At some time I know the efw-sog disbanded.
I flew with the Misfits at the end of AW(Otto,Guchi,Riddler some of the names) I was the only one to come to AH. They went thier own ways.
Pigstompers were a good outfit, wasn't 1ijac a member?
If I remember correct I think 1ijac was with the efw-sog in AW (or for part of the time),... when AW quit I came to AH for 2 months I flew with the efw-sog, the efw-sog flew with the pigstompers quite abit. But the thats been long time ago now.
At some time I know the efw-sog disbanded.
I flew with the Misfits at the end of AW(Otto,Guchi,Riddler some of the names) I was the only one to come to AH. They went thier own ways.
I remember otto... good guy.yes he is as a person, fun to fly with as wingman
Otto...that's one name I haven't seen in a long time.
ack-ck
Yall remember Deth7? He was the CO of Pigstompers in AW1/3 Korea and flew AH2 in PS as well.
I Believe Deth7 PC isn't up to snuff so he went to FA Korea. I'm thinking a few others did also.
I hope with the introduction of WWI, a few will return. After all the Pigstompers started out as a WWI squad.
Just look how worked up Mano is. :D
Pigstompers were a good outfit, wasn't 1ijac a member?
ack-ack
I doubt if they will be able to run WWI if they can't WWII.Might entice them to upgrade a bit. Know what I'm ;) sayin?
Might entice them to upgrade a bit. Know what I'm ;) sayin?
I Believe Deth7 PC isn't up to snuff so he went to FA Korea. I'm thinking a few others did also.
I hope with the introduction of WWI, a few will return. After all the Pigstompers started out as a WWI squad.
Just look how worked up Mano is. :D
More revisons are in process to distance ourselves from the POTW name. I will post as info becomes available.Any idea when this is going to happen, I'm reforming and am going to be recruiting heavily and obviously, I'd like to be able to have this squad name stuff with you guys straightened out as soon as possible.
Any idea when this is going to happen, I'm reforming and am going to be recruiting heavily and obviously, I'd like to be able to have this squad name stuff with you guys straightened out as soon as possible.
-Twitchy
IIRC, the Pigstompers were Az in AW for some time. Something came up that caused them to change to Cz, and they allied with SOG. I think it may have started one time when 1ijac became PNG back in AW4W (AW Classic on Gamestorm) while diving through the middle of a furball. SlugM signs him up for a day, and then the next day he's back to Az and the Pigstompers. That started the relationship, even though we were always fighting Pigstompers. I just can't remember when the transition happened. I wanna say it occurred in AW3, and I think it had something to do with another Az squadron. Anyways, they never gave up their Pigstomper identity, and SlugM never asked them to. They just wore a SOG uniform for a brief time, until enough of them made whichever transition precipitated the change.
2flie
Never.
Stop being an bellybutton and let him have the name back, it's not like you guys are making a name for yourselves in it.
ack-ack
Never.
Stop being an bellybutton and let him have the name back, it's not like you guys are making a name for yourselves in it.
ack-ack
Calling me an ass? It wasn't and isn't my decision. :aok
For all we care our name could be the "SissyBoy NancyPants Gang". :saluteDouble dog dare ya.
Double dog dare ya.
:bolt:
. For all we care our name could be the "SissyBoy NancyPants Gang". :salute
yaknow what?It got silly 30+ pages ago :lol
i think twitchy is wrong. i htink he's an arse. but it's only a name. if he wants it so bad, give the dam thing to him, and stop lowerin yourselves to him.
those of you i know, i like, and respect........but this is gettin kinda silly now.
It got silly 30+ pages ago :lol
can we get to 45
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can we get to 45FELIZ NAVIDAD! :cheers: :banana:
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Stop being an bellybutton and let him have the name back, it's not like you guys are making a name for yourselves in it.
ack-ack
Why are you even responding anyways? You never have anything good to say about anything. Yet you respond anyways like were listening to you. Just another drama queen tard that wants to be in the spotlight :aok
unlike your post that has nothing to do with the OP's topic and is in stead just a personal attack on another player. Whats that "other" face you wear look like?
Stop being an bellybutton and let him have the name back, it's not like you guys are making a name for yourselves in it.
ack-ack
:lol Like Ack Ack's post is so on the OP's topic and devoid of personal attack? :lol :rolleyes:
Just another drama queen tard that wants to be in the spotlight :aok
:lol Like Ack Ack's post is so on the OP's topic and devoid of personal attack? :lol :rolleyes:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,279392.15.html
The last I heard you guys wanted to distance yourselves from the POTW name anyway, I've been patiently waiting until you guys change the name to start rebuilding and recruiting, and well frankly, it's starting to get a little ridiculous. I've tried the polite way here, with no result, so perhaps a more assertive approach, like 'hey get your own damned name' would suffice? Syko's apparently a fairly creative fellow these days, creating lists and the like, so why don't he just simply create his own squad name like he should have done in the first place and get his doppleganger butt on down the road.
Sorry but this whole thing has been dragging on long enough and I want my squad name, if he can't come up with a simple name for his squadron, I'd more than happy to make a few suggestions.
Ack Ack and I seldom agree on anything here, but I think he nailed it, and you guys are just hanging on to it now for spite. Come off it, it's not that hard to come up with your own idea for a name. You guys want to use my toothbrush and borrow some of my underwear while your at it?
-Twitchy
lol at hanging on :rofl
POTW is not an amazing name or historic in any way. Just make up another.
lol at hanging on :roflActually, a little research goes a long way, I chose POTW for my squad name for a couple reasons, one of them is because I've always been a Floyd fan, the other is a little more pertinent to ariel combat...
POTW is not an amazing name or historic in any way. Just make up another.
this may not be my place to say anything but why all this over a measly squad name? why not sort the problem like adults :headscratch:I know you are but what am I. :neener: Woo Woo Sooka choo Cattb! :banana:
this may not be my place to say anything but why all this over a measly squad name? why not sort the problem like adults :headscratch:Tried that, Syko has been literally hiding from me for two months. He communicated through another squaddie like a middle schooler, that he wouldn't talk to me directly because he wanted to 'avoid confrontation'. The truth of the matter is that Syko pulled some underhanded and dishonest crap and doesn't want to own up to it. My previous posts on this thread are a glimpse of what's been going on to which I will add that he apaprently even went so far as to create a phoney list of all these squaddies I was going to boot and claimed I had made it.
Tried that, Syko has been literally hiding from me for two months. He communicated through another squaddie like a middle schooler, that he wouldn't talk to me directly because he wanted to 'avoid confrontation'. The truth of the matter is that Syko pulled some underhanded and dishonest crap and doesn't want to own up to it. My previous posts on this thread are a glimpse of what's been going on to which I will add that he apaprently even went so far as to create a phoney list of all these squaddies I was going to boot and claimed I had made it.i have heard that you are the only CO for POTW by many people im sure none will forget even if he doesnt give the name up i understand exactly where you are coming from :salute Twitchy
All I want at this point is the name back, if Syko wants to be the big cheese bad enough to pull this crap on a ten year friend then he should have started his own squad rather than taking credit for the nearly ten year legacy I built. No, nobody owns a squad name, but right is right.
-Twitchy
Why did you give up a name you wanted to keep?I didn't, I left becasue of financial/marital reasons with the understanding with Syko that yes, I would be returning to the game and reassuming command of my squad when I was able to play again. While I was gone Syko started in on his Mr. President campaign and telling everybody I never started the POTW in the first place and that he had run the squad for nine years. When I got back, I assumed command with a few bumps of course, that is until I confronted Syko on his crap, next thing I know, all my posts are deleted off the POTW site, Syko starts hiding from me and I start hearing rumors about all the terrible things I was going to do if I was command again.
I didn't, I left becasue of financial/marital reasons with the understanding with Syko that yes, I would be returning to the game and reassuming command of my squad when I was able to play again. While I was gone Syko started in on his Mr. President campaign and telling everybody I never started the POTW in the first place and that he had run the squad for nine years. When I got back, I assumed command with a few bumps of course, that is until I confronted Syko on his crap, next thing I know, all my posts are deleted off the POTW site, Syko starts hiding from me and I start hearing rumors about all the terrible things I was going to do if I was command again.
I didn't give the name up shuffler, I foolishly trusted my ten year XO with it while I was gone. If you had to quit the game because of some bad circumstances, and came back to find that your friend was now claiming to be shuffler, that would be pretty crappy, if he was claiming to have been shuffler for the last nine years and that you were never shuffler to begin with and squelching you or hiding from you in game when you tried to confront them, that would be pretty nasty stuff. Now imagine if the doppleganger shuffler ran 'therealshuffler.com' and deleted all your posts and started posting a bunch of anti-shuffler crap on there...
Yeah, you could call yourself shuffler2 and just go on with it, but when you've been shuffler for nearly a decade, it's not something the other guy is going to just get away with because everybody knows better. If it is indeed 'just a name', then why not come up with their own and get off of my porch?
-Twitchy
I didn't, I left becasue of financial/marital reasons with the understanding with Syko that yes, I would be returning to the game and reassuming command of my squad when I was able to play again. While I was gone Syko started in on his Mr. President campaign and telling everybody I never started the POTW in the first place and that he had run the squad for nine years. When I got back, I assumed command with a few bumps of course, that is until I confronted Syko on his crap, next thing I know, all my posts are deleted off the POTW site, Syko starts hiding from me and I start hearing rumors about all the terrible things I was going to do if I was command again.
I didn't give the name up shuffler, I foolishly trusted my ten year XO with it while I was gone. If you had to quit the game because of some bad circumstances, and came back to find that your friend was now claiming to be shuffler, that would be pretty crappy, if he was claiming to have been shuffler for the last nine years and that you were never shuffler to begin with and squelching you or hiding from you in game when you tried to confront them, that would be pretty nasty stuff. Now imagine if the doppleganger shuffler ran 'therealshuffler.com' and deleted all your posts and started posting a bunch of anti-shuffler crap on there...
Yeah, you could call yourself shuffler2 and just go on with it, but when you've been shuffler for nearly a decade, it's not something the other guy is going to just get away with because everybody knows better. If it is indeed 'just a name', then why not come up with their own and get off of my porch?
you left for 1 /12 to 2 years.you make it seem like it was for a tour or 2. if it was for a few months i'm shore things would be different. we all knew who you were and that you founded the squad even though most of us never meet you. syko never talked badly about you to my knowledge either. you need to just give it up already. your not going to win this one. sorryWhat a tool :lol
you left for 1 /12 to 2 years.you make it seem like it was for a tour or 2. if it was for a few months i'm shore things would be different. we all knew who you were and that you founded the squad even though most of us never meet you. syko never talked badly about you to my knowledge either. you need to just give it up already. your not going to win this one. sorrythats cheap even for you Squat :lol
you left for 1 /12 to 2 years.you make it seem like it was for a tour or 2. if it was for a few months i'm shore things would be different. we all knew who you were and that you founded the squad even though most of us never meet you. syko never talked badly about you to my knowledge either. you need to just give it up already. your not going to win this one. sorryIt was a little over a year FYI, and yeah Syko pulled some pretty underhanded crap... and there's nothing to 'win', it's really simple, just get the hell off my squad name.
It was a little over a year FYI, and yeah Syko pulled some pretty underhanded crap... and there's nothing to 'win', it's really simple, just get the hell off my squad name.:aok
-Twitchy
pfft whatever, furballers are over rated game killers :noid :bolt:
It was a little over a year FYI, and yeah Syko pulled some pretty underhanded crap... and there's nothing to 'win', it's really simple, just get the hell off my squad name.
-Twitchy
There is the problem... at this time you have no squad name. Skuzzy himself said no one owns a name in here.No, nobody owns a squad name, but after nearly ten years I sure think that some are more entitled to a name than others, especially when one of them has done some dishonest and really sleazy things to get it.
All your doing right now is delaying getting your squad going. Get a name and git-r-dun. :D
hummm how about new sport like mud wrestling for squad names
pigs like playing in the mud anyhow. :D
"Please stop beating me..." -Chief Dead Horse, December 2009It's not a dead horse, their still squatting on my squad name, thanks for playing though. They change their name to something original, and then it's a dead horse. I hope this simple logic doesn't escape you Mazz :lol
It's not a dead horse, their still squatting on my squad name, thanks for playing though. They change their name to something original, and then it's a dead horse. I hope this simple logic doesn't escape you Mazz :lol
-Twitchy
No, nobody owns a squad name, but after nearly ten years I sure think that some are more entitled to a name than others, especially when one of them has done some dishonest and really sleazy things to get it.
Actually I do have a squad name, it's Pigs on the Wing and has been for a long time. What I need from Syko and Co. is for them to have enough decency and grown up courtesy to get off of it. I was told they would be changing their name, it was a solution to this problem I could respect, but it hasn't happened and I have no intention of letting up on this issue until they do. Syko can walk away with all the Pigs he likes but I'll be damned if he's going to walk away with the name I created and built, he can have the members, but yeah the name and the legacy is mine, and rightfully so.
-Twitchy
It's not a dead horse, their still squatting on my squad name, thanks for playing though. They change their name to something original, and then it's a dead horse. I hope this simple logic doesn't escape you Mazz :lol
-Twitchy
No ownership, no entitlements.Start a new squad? Hey that's an idea, I wonder why the hell Syko can't do that? Yeah sure, I could just walk away from the whole thing and let Syko get away with this kind of crap, but then as you said, POTW has been around a long time. Everybody who's played for more than a year or so knows who's squad it is, and like I said before, if Syko wanted that shiny CO badge that bad, he could have simply 'started a new squad', but no, he wanted that ten year legacy that goes along with it, and I'm sorry, but that's mine and he's not getting that, and retaining any credibility.
Decency, grown-up courtesy???? How old are you? I can't imagine you being too young as the POTW have been around for awhile. I also can't imagine an adult being so bent out of shape by a name in a game.
Start a new squad. The old squad moved on and is not what you envisioned for it anyway. I'm sure most any name you can imagine has already been used before... just like POTW. More than likely whoever used those before won't mind. <S>
Start a new squad? Hey that's an idea, I wonder why the hell Syko can't do that?
omg let it goAbsolutely not.
I should email this to "Pink Floyd Ltd" and see who "has the rights to Pigs on the Wing"? I support Twitchy and all, but this has NO BUSINESS being on the BBS any longer. This really needs to be let go.
Absolutely not.
-Twitchy
maybe I missed it but why you quit the squad to start with?
Start a new squad? Hey that's an idea, I wonder why the hell Syko can't do that? Yeah sure, I could just walk away from the whole thing and let Syko get away with this kind of crap, but then as you said, POTW has been around a long time. Everybody who's played for more than a year or so knows who's squad it is, and like I said before, if Syko wanted that shiny CO badge that bad, he could have simply 'started a new squad', but no, he wanted that ten year legacy that goes along with it, and I'm sorry, but that's mine and he's not getting that, and retaining any credibility.
-Twitchy
Syko has a squad... why start another.
I've been here since about 2000 and on the boards since about 2002...... I don't care who runs what squad. If you had not said you started POTW... I would never have known.
Good lord.... I can't help but get a chuckle from the "it's mine". You seem to not understand even though Skuzzy posted in plain english. Ten year "legacy" is another grand chuckle.
I see some POTW around flying sometimes... to me they are just another squad. Most of the time if I fly with someone I have no idea what squad afiliations they have. What it boils down to is the individual. No "squad" makes an individual worth being around.... the individual makes theirself worth being around... or not. :D
I don't care who runs what squad.Awesome, we'll see you another thread then. :aok
I left because of primarily financial reasons with the assurances and understanding that I was returning to command my squad, when I got back it hit the fan as I found out Syko was pulling some really underhanded crap.
Sounds more like Storchita
I ALMOST gave my monitor a shower.:x
No offense but why didn't you stay in contact with the squad via BBS and Pigs Forums? Such means of communication are free and non time consuming. It would have also been a good way to maintain a relationship with Syko and make sure the squad was being run how you wanted it to be. Sounds like you wanted your cake and to eat it too.Grizz, regardless of what he's led everybody to believe, Syko knew I was comming back. Like I said before, we had an understanding, and I spoke with him on several occasions about it. I didn't have a working computer or internet for alot of the time I was gone and was literally fishing for supper at one point to feed my family, we basicly hit rock bottom here.
Sounds more like Storchita
I ALMOST gave my monitor a shower.
Cattb, nice shot last night by the way, <S> :DThanks twitchy <S>
No offence Twitchy but you're acting like a teenage girl who just had her cell-phone taken away. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Twity,I think you should have the name.Believe it or not, that's all I'm after. It's a pretty simple solution really, and something that I was under the impression was already in the works. Yeah it probably does seem petty to alot of you and I understand that, but it's important to me and it's not something I'm just going to walk away from when the solution is as simple as comming up with their OWN name.
lock this damn thread....Reading this ...You don't have to read it Bipolar, that's the beauty of it. Start your own 'Hey I'm a jerk' thread and I'll hop on yours and complain incessantly about it. I love these guys that get on a thread and complain about how long it is as they click the reply button. Do you really care about the topic here, or are you just smacken em cause there's about 49 thousand three hundred and something other threads in this forum alone you can smack your gums on and not have to hear a word about it.
You don't have to read it Bipolar, that's the beauty of it. Start your own 'Hey I'm a jerk' thread and I'll hop on yours
It's not a dead horse, their still squatting on my squad name, thanks for playing though. They change their name to something original, and then it's a dead horse. I hope this simple logic doesn't escape you Mazz :lol
-Twitchy