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Title: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 09:34:33 AM
We've seen continued growth in the One-on-One Dueling Bracket Tournament.  We had 64 players for the Inaugural tourney, 74 for the Second Tri-Annual and this time we enter with 85 players!  Thanks to all who participate and make this fun for everyone and a special thanks to the past and present review committee volunteers.



Below is the final roster (sorted by in-game name).  Please make sure I have your in-game and BBs names correct.  We need both; BBs so people can PM to arrange a duel and in-game so they know who you are when you meet in the DA.  texastc316 signed up Doolitle, a squaddie, and never provided his BBs name so if you get matched with Doolitle I suggest contacting texastc316 to arrange your duel.

In-Game   -   BBs      
Competitors   
         
4Fox   -   Fox      
A8Hunter   -   A8Hunter      
AAJagerX   -   AAJagerX      
akELFY   -   DOUG       
Angels10   -   angels10      
BaldEagl   -   BaldEagl   -   Administrator
batfinkv   -   mechanic       
Bearkats   -   Husky01      
betty   -   betty      
Boozeman-   Boozeman      
Bosco   -   Bosco123      
Bruv119   -   Bruv119      
Bubi   -   Motherland      
cactus      -   cactuskooler            
CandyMan-   stodd      
Changeup-   Changeup      
crazyivan   -   crazyivan       
Cursed   -   Qrsu      
DadRabit   -   DadRabit      
DBCooper   -   uptown      
dedalos   -   dedalos      
dhart   -   dhart      
dhyran   -   dhyran      
Dodger   -   jododger       
Doolitle   -   ?      
Drkn   -   -Draken-      
flatiron   -   flatiron1      
Flench   -   Flench      
fudgums   -   fudgums      
greens   -   greens      
Grue   -   Ghastly      
hlbly    -   hlbly       
Hopper   -   Hopper      
horble   -   horble      
INK   -   ink       
IrishOne    -   IrishOne       
JB11   -   JB11      
Jbecks   -   jdbecks       
JOACH1M   -   JOACH1M      
Jolly01   -   jolly22      
Juvat   -   Raptor      
Kazaa   -   Kazaa      
Kil02   -   kilo2      
Kirin   -   Kirin      
L0nGb0w   -   L0nGb0w       
Lagger   -   Lagger86      
Lazer   -   Lazerr      
lepape2   -   Lepape2      
LTARhamr-   dunnrite      
madda   -   maddafinga      
MANPLESR-   Tupac   -   Review Committee 2nd Alternate
Manurin   -   manurin      
Mazz   -   Saurdaukar      
Mensa   -   mensa180      
Misfire   -   jocrp6      
Mjsmoke   -   mjsmoke       
Phanta   -   Phanza      
ace pilot   -   dkff49       
rattler2   -   Rattler      
Reaper90   -   Reaper90      
Redd   -   Redd      
Rud3boi   -   hgtonyvi      
RufLeak   -   RufusLeaking       
Sandwich   -   sandwich      
SEraider   -   SEraider      
SF   -   --)SF----      
shiv   -   shiv      
SkyRock   -   SkyRock      
slimmer   -   slimmer      
Snaphook-   humble      
stealth    -   STEALTH      
Strip   -   Strip      
SunsFan   -   sunfan1121      
SWneo   -   infowars      
TC   -   TequilaChaser   -   Review Committee Alternate
texstc   -   texastc316      
TnDep   -   TnDep      
Tongs   -   SPKmes      
TonyJoey   -   TonyJoey      
TW9   -   TW9      
Twizzty   -   Twizzty      
v1st   -   v1st      
Vinkman    -   Vinkman       
waystin2   -   waystin2      
WMSol   -   Sol75      

Non-Competitors            
JunkyII   -   JunkyII   -   Review Committee
Karaya   -   Masherbrum    -   Review Committee
Nisky   -   Nisky   -   Review Committee 3rd Alternate
WMLute   -   WMLute   -   Review Committee



Following is a re-posting of the rules.  Please make sure that you read and understand them.  

- Brackets will be determined by random draw of names produced by a random number generator in MS Excel.
- If the number of players exceeds a full round I will work them into the bracket although they will have to fly one more round than other players.  They will be chosen randomly and disbursed evenly through pre-selected slots in the bracket to achieve balance at the nearest bracket root(s).
-   If a player changes their in-game or BBs name during the tournament they must either post that change in the bracket and results thread or PM me with the change.
- Duels must be arranged between the players by PM, IM, e-mail or other means to take place by midnight CST/CDT Sunday following each bracket update (6 days).
- Duels will be best of three.
- First duel plane selection will be assigned using a random number generator to select from all available fighter and fighter/attack aircraft (except the Me163 and Me262).  This will be done individually for each set of duelers.
- The loser of each duel selects the aircraft for the next duel.  This allows the loser to pick his/her best aircraft to get back into contention and if it goes three rounds each player will have had one plane selection.
- All duels will take place in the DA canyon area.
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling at all times prior to the merge.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.
- In the case of a draw (both run out of fuel for instance) that duel will be re-fought using the same aircraft.
- In the case of a collision:
   * If only one player collides (only one gets the collision message) the duel continues.
   * If both players collide (both get the collision message) the duel immediately ends and will be re-started in the same planes.
- Intentionally ditching or bailing constitutes forfeiture of the duel.
- The intent is for players to remain in close proximity to one another (2-3K max).  That said if at any time the players lose icon range on one another the duel ends immediately and will be re-started using the same planes.  This should allow a dueler to simply turn away from a runner to nullify the duel.
- If an uninvited third party interrupts the duel the duel is immediately ended and will be re-started using the same plane.  The dueling participants may move to another mutually agreed upon set of fields in the DA in this instance.
- Once one player has been shot down and the other receives a kill message the duel ends.  There is no need to land.
- If a player disco's the duel will be re-fought in the same planes as soon as the discoing player re-logs.  If he does not or is unable to re-log within 15 minutes he will lose the duel series by default.  A second disco by the same player in a duel series will result in forfeiture of the remaining duels in that series.
- Both players will film all duels in case of a dispute.
- Films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from the quarter final round forward for the viewing pleasure of the community.  Films may be posted during earlier rounds if both participants agree.
- The losing player will post in this thread after the duel series in the following format:
  
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner (if needed)

The loser posting is a means to verify that the results are uncontested.  If the loser hasn't posted by the deadline then the winner may post the results but they will be deemed contested.
- This information must be posted by no later than 12:00 midnight CST/CDT (as appropriate) Sunday following the posting of the updated bracket so that I can get the brackets updated and re-posted on Monday.
- If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series.  In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time and a screenshot of the DA roster showing that the opponent is a no show no later than 12:00 midnight CDT Sunday following posting of the updated bracket.
- If a duel cannot be arranged between two players each player will have a chance to post the circumstances in this thread prior to the posting deadline.  If only one player posts and it is clear that they are making an attempt to arrange their duel then that player will advance, provided their post was at least 48 hours prior to the round closing deadline. If both players post and it is clear that the issue lies with only one player then the player not at fault will advance.  If it is unclear which player is at fault, if neither player posts, or if a single player posts inside the 48 hour window then a random draw will determine which player advances.  
- In the case of contested results both player’s films will be reviewed by the review committee and a determination will be posted no later than 48 hours after the initial posting deadline.  The review committee may overturn posted results.  If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made a winner will be selected by random draw.  The review committee's determination will be final.  Because this will delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own.  In any case, the next duels deadlines WILL NOT be delayed.
- The initial bracket will be posted on Monday, February 1 and each Monday thereafter until a winner has been determined.



43 people get first round byes this round while 42 duel in 21 matches.  If you have a plane assignment in your bracket you duel this week, otherwise you will have Bye listed under your name and have to wait until next week to get going.  Please try to arrange and complete your duels in a timely manner so that we can keep this tournament flowing smoothly and without delays.  Your timeliness or lack thereof affects not only your current opponent but those awaiting the results of your match-up.

Here's the initial bracket.  Let the games begin!

IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

I inadvertantly missed v1st and placed madda in the bracket twice.  v1st will take madda's second position with a first round bye on the lower right side of the bracket while madda will meet Bruv119 in the first round flying the Spitfire Mk I in their first duel as indicated in the lower left side of the bracket.  These changes will be reflected in the next bracket update.

I appologize for my mistake and any inconvenience.

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Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: v1st on February 01, 2010, 09:50:50 AM
I think you forgot my name in the bracket .  I could be missing it my eyes not so good.
v1st
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 01, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
May the best man win. :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 01, 2010, 10:26:07 AM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEK....

Hey at least I get a 1st round win :D. Will certainly be curious how well DB can do but assuming I get past round two I run into Batty  :airplane: :airplane: :joystick: :headscratch: :O

*** at Edit***

Not ment as a dis to Bearkats in anyway. I just see Batty as a "top 4" stick in this one...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
nm.  Moved to first post.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Shuffler on February 01, 2010, 10:36:40 AM
I think you forgot my name in the bracket .  I could be missing it my eyes not so good.
v1st

Your in the list but I don't see you on the board either.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 01, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
Lazer vs SunsFan.......This should be at least a semis match-up.....I want FILMS  :devil :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 01, 2010, 11:09:21 AM
I think we're being really unfair to this "Bye" guy.

I've never heard of him, but he's got WAY too many fights....
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 01, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
I think we're being really unfair to this "Bye" guy.

I've never heard of him, but he's got WAY too many fights....
:rofl
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 01, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
why do so many folks get byes?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 01, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
Edit: Per below - good idea BE.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 01, 2010, 11:25:22 AM
1st up with a "final 4"

Top left is a tough tough Bracket. I'll go "all in" from round 1 with Sunsfan in a tough call over TC and Lazer.

Bottom left is also tough sledding. Maybe it's just squad favoritism but I'll take Manny in an upset over bruv, skyrock and mazz.

Top Right comes down to Ded, kazaa and Bat IMO....got to go with Batty there in a photofinish

Bottom right looks to be TW9 only because no one else jumps out but cactus certainly has the skillz.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 11:31:44 AM
why do so many folks get byes?

Because the bracket doubles in size with each round (i.e. 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, etc.) so as soon as you pass one of those thresholds then byes are nessesarily introduced.  After passing the threshold each additional player begins to reduce the number of byes until the next threshold is passed and the number of byes once again increases.

Last tourney I ran multiple rounds simultaneously to reduce the number of byes during a given week but it made tracking and updating the bracket much more difficult so this time I decided to keep the rounds intact and get all the byes out of the way the first week.  There will be no more byes after this week.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 01, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
i just dont get it. folks get on this thing to duel fight kill people. why not team alll the ones with byes together and may the best man win
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 01, 2010, 11:35:59 AM
Im more excited to see who wins this then I am for the Super-Bowl :o

Quarter Final predictions-
JB11 vs SunsFan                                             Kazaa vs Batfink
Mazz vs SeRaider(raider has a ton of 1v1 time)     akELFY vs cactus

Semis-
Sunsfan vs SERaider                          Kazaa vs akElfy

Finals

SunsFan vs Kazaa

winner
depends on starting ride....Spit16(dweeby) Kazaa wins.....K4(man ride) Suns wins

 :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 01, 2010, 11:36:04 AM
Batfink and Bearkats in the first round...

 :O

Get some film of that!!!!

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 01, 2010, 11:41:12 AM
I still would like to see the first round losers applied to the open slots in the first round byes. Would give a round one matchup like BK and Batty less impact over the entire match. I think either is certainly capable of a top 8 showing depending on later pairings. You would get a better, more equally match round two, instead of weak pilots getting a free pass.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 11:41:26 AM
i just dont get it. folks get on this thing to duel fight kill people. why not team alll the ones with byes together and may the best man win

That's what I did last time and like I said it made it much more difficult on me to administer the tournament.  In the end it doesn't matter as each of those with a current bye would have to have one somewhere else along the way if I did it the other way.  They'd ultimately end up having to await the outcome of one of the brackets without a first round bye.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 01, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Good luck everyone
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
I'll be happy just to beat mensa, everything after that is just gravy.

I'll give it my best shot, but I don't play enough to win one.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 01, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
Man I was really hoping for a bit of a challenge during the first few rounds....ah well....that's the way random draws go I suppose   :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 12:50:10 PM
This is the third time in a row I've had to duel in the first round, the third time in a row I've had to fly an American plane (not my best) and the second time in a row I've drawn a Muppet.   :uhoh

It could be worse, that top right quarter of the bracket looks brutal.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 01, 2010, 01:10:53 PM
I'm on my blackberry and can't see bracket. Can someone tell me who texsTC and doolitle drew for 1st round?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 01, 2010, 01:13:17 PM
I'm on my blackberry and can't see bracket. Can someone tell me who texsTC and doolitle drew for 1st round?
You got a buy, Doolittle is going against Flench in 109-G-6  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jdbecks on February 01, 2010, 01:15:14 PM
You got a buy, Doolittle is going against Flench in 109-G-6  :salute

texastc and mjsomke both have a buy, and will meet each other in the second round..plane has not yet been assigned
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 01, 2010, 01:18:54 PM
I had bye in first round last time. Pwnt him pretty bad. I predict I  will prevail once more.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilo2 on February 01, 2010, 01:20:16 PM
This is the third time in a row I've had to duel in the first round, the third time in a row I've had to fly an American plane (not my best) and the second time in a row I've drawn a Muppet.   :uhoh

It could be worse, that top right quarter of the bracket looks brutal.

Dont worry third time in a row I have had to duel in the first round.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 01, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
plane has not yet been assigned
And it wont be till next week :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jimbo71 on February 01, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
I'd like to enter, but understand if it's too late since the brackets have already been drawn up.  If there is a spot, I'd like to join in.

Forum: Jimbo71

AH Callsign: xxxJCxxx
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DrBone1 on February 01, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
 Either Kaz or Bruv will win  :rock  :salute all GL  :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Ghastly on February 01, 2010, 02:07:49 PM
I'd like to enter, but understand if it's too late since the brackets have already been drawn up.  If there is a spot, I'd like to join in.

Forum: Jimbo71

AH Callsign: xxxJCxxx

BE, if you decide to let a late comer in, I'll gladly give up my round one buy and duel Jimbo71.

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 01, 2010, 02:12:22 PM
With all the bye no one should be allowed to trade, let em fight a player with a bye...

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Ghastly on February 01, 2010, 02:26:32 PM
With all the bye no one should be allowed to trade, let em fight a player with a bye...

Strip

??? I didn't see any mention of a trade ??? - so I'm assuming you were responding to my post. 

If I didn't misread the brackets, I have a buy this first week, and was offering to give it up.  Or did I miss something that you didn't?

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 01, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
Every one shut it and let the guy organizing this do it the way he wants  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 01, 2010, 02:40:30 PM
Every one shut it and let the guy organizing this do it the way he wants  :D

Not the way the Nicest Guy in Aces High would put it, but I do agree Dedalos. :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 02:45:08 PM
IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

I'd like to enter, but understand if it's too late since the brackets have already been drawn up.  If there is a spot, I'd like to join in.

Forum: Jimbo71

AH Callsign: xxxJCxxx

Since it's still the first day I'll let you in.  You are matched as follows to be completed this week:

AAJagerX
Bf 109E-4  
xxxJCxxx


This change will be reflected in the next bracket update.

Sorry Ghastly.  I need to follow my own rules regarding maintaining balance to the bracket and random selection.  Anything less than random selection could introduce the possibility for player manipulation of the brackets.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Ghastly on February 01, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
No problem at all BE, I understand completely. 

I offered because I knew that in my case, there would be no confusion with respect to having thought I'd been given the week off, and then finding out later that I hadn't.

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Shuffler on February 01, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
Yall should listen as Baldy has the gun....

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/avapub/avatar_5856.gif)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 01, 2010, 03:11:03 PM
Not the way the Nicest Guy in Aces High would put it, but I do agree Dedalos. :aok

But, I am the nicest guy in Aces High  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 01, 2010, 03:22:51 PM
But, I am the nicest guy in Aces High  :)
;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Flench on February 01, 2010, 03:28:23 PM
Look's good  . Good luck all  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stodd on February 01, 2010, 03:31:31 PM
 :o nvm
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 01, 2010, 03:33:12 PM
I see my name in the list, but after searching the bracket a few times I cant find CandyMan in their.  :( :headscratch:

Right side, fifth bracket down. You've got that bye guy.  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stodd on February 01, 2010, 03:33:46 PM
Found it.  :rofl Woops. :o
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 01, 2010, 03:37:44 PM
AApache would like to enter as well.  He was going to sign up this weekend but a small house fire interrupted his plans.

Forum AApache
Game AApache
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 01, 2010, 03:51:01 PM
PM sent, Lagger.   :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 01, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
P47D-11

wonderfull LOL I hate that friggin plane :cry

well guess I gotta get some practice seeings how I dont think I have flown that bird all of 5 times :lol


looks like its gonna be awesome though

Good Luck all :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 04:31:15 PM
AApache would like to enter as well.  He was going to sign up this weekend but a small house fire interrupted his plans.

Forum AApache
Game AApache

As with the other player as long as it's still the first day I'll let him in and get him assigned but I can't do it right now.  I'll get to it a bit later today.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 01, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
Thanks BE, I appreciate it.

AAJagerX
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Lazerr on February 01, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
oh linda...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 05:16:11 PM
IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

AApache would like to enter as well.  He was going to sign up this weekend but a small house fire interrupted his plans.

Forum AApache
Game AApache

As I posted earlier since it's the first day I'll let him in.  He is assigned as follows to be completed this week:

Kazaa
Bf 110C-4b  
AApache
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AApache on February 01, 2010, 06:10:55 PM
Thank you BalDEagl for allowing me to enter. Over the weekend we had a small fire breakout in our home due to a clogged exhaust tube and lint screen on the dryer in the laundry room. Thank goodness no one was hurt and  we had only minor damge tothe drywall and flooring along with a bit of smoke damage. I am very thankful that the wife and kids were ok and we did not lose our home. I thank you kindly for allowing me to get into the tourney. Kazaa give me a PM to discuss good times for us. I will be alittle busy next few days with repair crew and such but am looking forward to it !!!      :salute

 :rock  Thanks AAJagerX for setting up everything bro !!!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 01, 2010, 06:36:25 PM
so this means i dont have nothin to do in round one...correct???
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 01, 2010, 06:57:23 PM
so this means i dont have nothin to do in round one...correct???

Correct.  You start next week.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Husky01 on February 01, 2010, 07:07:26 PM
Batfink and Bearkats in the first round...

 :O

Get some film of that!!!!

Strip

No no no we dont want film of this! He is gonna spank me lol I haven't flown in months! Even when I did fly everyday he still spanked me!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 01, 2010, 07:16:23 PM
I'm pretty rusty myself  man, i think it could go either way. First one to make a big mistake i rekon.  :pray
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 01, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Don't worry Kazaa I sucked from the start and haven't played enough since school started anyway, I'm up for some practice if you ever get the time though.

If by some miracle I can defeat you and make it to quarterfinals I will once again be facing T3H F!NK11! (if he makes it that far, of course :))
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 01, 2010, 07:24:29 PM
It was hard reading my opponents name but I found a kilo2 I'm guessing thats right.  I tried kill2 first but no matches.  I emailed kilo2 to try and work out a time let me know if that's not the right name. 

Thanks,

TnDep
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: lagger86 on February 01, 2010, 09:08:04 PM
Lagger vs cursed

round 1. Cursed (109-g6)
round 2. cursed  (109-g6)
at this point I lost, but we fought on(for fun)

Rounds 3-whatever we flew(f6f's and 109-f4s) cursed destroyed me. I didn't win once! :rock

I have to say I had a blast, he is a good guy and was fun fighting him.

<S> cursed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 01, 2010, 09:16:19 PM
Angels10 give me a holla when you're ready sir. Looks like we have the P47D-40. I'll be on every nite after 6pm cst.  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 01, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
Lagger vs cursed

round 1. Cursed (109-g6)
round 2. cursed  (109-g6)
at this point I lost, but we fought on(for fun)

Rounds 3-whatever we flew(f6f's and 109-f4s) cursed destroyed me. I didn't win once! :rock

I have to say I had a blast, he is a good guy and was fun fighting him.

<S> cursed


Was a fun set of duels Lagger, great meeting you. Hope to fight you again soon.  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Lazerr on February 01, 2010, 11:49:16 PM
spit14 sunsfan
p38j lazer
ki61 sunsfan

sweet fights <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 02, 2010, 12:24:13 AM
By far the best fights Ive had in one of these. <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 02, 2010, 01:21:36 AM
spit14 sunsfan
p38j lazer
ki61 sunsfan

sweet fights <S>
By far the best fights Ive had in one of these. <S>
Sorry fellas need films, as a review commitee member I must see them for it to count ;) seriously though.....please :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 02, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
i'd love to see the film of how the spit 14 fight turned out.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 02, 2010, 01:59:06 AM
Doolitle's BBs name is doalot. Fench's BBs name does not seem to be valid.       
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Delirium on February 02, 2010, 02:01:51 AM
His name is valid.

Try again. Its Flench, not Felcher.  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 02, 2010, 02:03:36 AM
oops    ty
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 02, 2010, 02:43:41 AM
Spit 14
www.dasmuppets.com/public/Suns/lazer1.ahf
P38
www.dasmuppets.com/public/Suns/film80one.ahf
KI61
http://www.dasmuppets.com/public/Suns/laser3.ahf
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Lazerr on February 02, 2010, 09:59:21 AM
Spit14 was me flopping like a fish. :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 02, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
Spit14 was me flopping like a fish. :D
:rofl :rofl You didnt look very comfortable in a spit :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 02, 2010, 12:57:02 PM
IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

We have another late-comer.  Kilz PM'd me today. 

I wasn't going to allow any more late-comers as results are already being posted but filling one last slot will balance the bracket so I'm letting him in.  He is assigned as follows to be completed this week.  I copied flatiron on my response to kilz' PM.  This change will be reflected in the next bracket update.

flatiron
Tempest Mk V  
kilz


I will not accept any more late-comers into the tournament

We now officially have 88 players.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 02, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Spit14 was me flopping like a fish. :D


lol i know how you feel i did the exact same thing in a spit14 last time around. Flat spun the girl for about 3,000ft.  :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Lazerr on February 02, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
lol.. learned to pull flaps up is about the only way out of that.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 02, 2010, 09:24:02 PM
Winner Round 1 Sandwich A6M5B
Winner Round 2 Sandwich Spitfire Mk. VIII

Great Fights Sir!
 :salute & Thank You.
Way
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sandwich on February 02, 2010, 09:34:17 PM
Great fights waystin.

I'm gonna post the films soon.

I must have had some serious luck on my side during the second round.
You had 2 major gun solutions but somehow I matrixed my way through the Hizookas.

<S>  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sandwich on February 02, 2010, 09:46:48 PM
Round 1:http://www.filefront.com/15490493/Duel-waystin-1.ahf/ (http://www.filefront.com/15490493/Duel-waystin-1.ahf/)

Round 2:http://www.filefront.com/15490499/waystin-duel-2.ahf/ (http://www.filefront.com/15490499/waystin-duel-2.ahf/)

Once again great fights Waystin.   :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Flench on February 02, 2010, 11:22:45 PM
Winner Round 1 - doolitle in BF109G-6
Winner Round 2- doolitle in BF109G-6

Great Fights Sir!
 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 02, 2010, 11:59:40 PM
Some great fights on film so far.  The P-38 and Ki-61 duels between Sunsfan and Lazer were great and waystin, I thought you had reversed the tables on Sandwich in the second duel.  That could have easily gone the other way.

Thanks for the films.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 03, 2010, 06:21:25 AM
Anyone heard from Angels10? I've gotten no word from him as to when we will duel.  :frown:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 03, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Some great fights on film so far.  The P-38 and Ki-61 duels between Sunsfan and Lazer were great and waystin, I thought you had reversed the tables on Sandwich in the second duel.  That could have easily gone the other way.

Thanks for the films.

I enjoyed my first organized duel encounter.  Thank you for taking the time to organize Bald.  The fights were great, and I look forward to the next!

Way
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Fox on February 03, 2010, 12:10:47 PM
TonyJoey, check your PM.  I am available after 9:00 PM on Friday and about anytime over the weekends.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 03, 2010, 01:34:28 PM
Juvat - sent another PM your way - not sure if the last went through.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 03, 2010, 01:55:23 PM
I'll jump in here too.  I PM'd IrishOne on Monday.  No response yet.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 03, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
Anyone heard from Angels10? I've gotten no word from him as to when we will duel.  :frown:
I mentioned it to Angels10 about an hour minutes ago.  He was on Rooks in Titanic Tuesday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 03, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
I mentioned it to Angels10 about an hour minutes ago.  He was on Rooks in Titanic Tuesday.
TY Rufsleak, i'll try to catch him tonite.  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 03, 2010, 06:50:04 PM
hlbly,

When you want to get together?

Sent ya a pm as well...

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Changeup on February 03, 2010, 07:31:35 PM
L0ngb0w and Changeup are scheduled...will advise

V/r

Change "Never made it past the first round" up
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 03, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
epic fights Shiv :salute


Shiv p47-d11
INK Hurri2C
Shiv F4U

seriously Major Fights -awesome- had some crazy Adrenaline rushing, and fights after were Very fun!!

will post films soon

INK

again <S> Shiv
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 03, 2010, 09:27:21 PM
Ok here are the films, first three are the Turny fights, the rest are after fun :rock

if cussin is a issue turn down volume sorry
  
any of you guys who could give me advice on aiming I would take it, hell any advice at all would be Appreciated :salute

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shiv1.ahf

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/Shiv2c.ahf

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivF4.ahf


http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivspit.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivKi.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/Shiv205.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/ShivF4u-U4.ahf
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 03, 2010, 09:29:59 PM
Heres advice....you need to win the first fight :aok I noticed that almost nobody ever wins the second and third round, either first 2 or 1st and 3rd......practice more with your first bird :aok :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 03, 2010, 10:07:28 PM
epic fights Shiv :salute

Great fights Ink. <<S>>  That D11 fight was just too much, my heart was friggin' pounding.    Thanks for the extra fights also, learned more tonight than a month in the MA.

 :salute

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dkff49 on February 03, 2010, 10:12:08 PM
rud3boi check pm's

hope things are getting better for you.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 03, 2010, 10:49:08 PM
Heres advice....you need to win the first fight :aok I noticed that almost nobody ever wins the second and third round, either first 2 or 1st and 3rd......practice more with your first bird :aok :salute

ah but I did win the second :D

Great fights Ink. <<S>>  That D11 fight was just too much, my heart was friggin' pounding.    Thanks for the extra fights also, learned more tonight than a month in the MA.

 :salute

I was watching them, truly great fights dood awesome flying :salute

 


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 04, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
Check your PM apache.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazan_HB on February 04, 2010, 05:55:18 AM
Ok here are the films, first three are the Turny fights, the rest are after fun :rock

if cussin is a issue turn down volume sorry
  
any of you guys who could give me advice on aiming I would take it, hell any advice at all would be Appreciated :salute

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shiv1.ahf

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/Shiv2c.ahf

http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivF4.ahf


http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivspit.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/shivKi.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/Shiv205.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/ShivF4u-U4.ahf


Great Fight Guys  :rock :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: angels10 on February 04, 2010, 06:51:48 AM
TY Rufsleak, i'll try to catch him tonite.  :salute


 On every night 4-10 Rooks ch 114 Look me up!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 04, 2010, 07:14:19 AM
Can anyone get with hlbly and have him check his emails?

If I dont get this done tonight I am looking at Sat morning or Sunday....   :eek:

(Class today, racecar stuff from tonight until Sat am, and more racecar stuff Sat pm)
 
:rock

Sent him an pm over a day ago and no word....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 04, 2010, 07:29:03 AM
IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

dhart is now Doomsday in-game.  His BBs name remains dhart.  This will be reflected in the next bracket update.


On a seperate note; Ink and shiv, looked like fun fights.  Thanks for the films.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 04, 2010, 11:16:25 AM
IMPORTANT NOTE/CHANGE

dhart is now Doomsday in-game.  His BBs name remains dhart.  This will be reflected in the next bracket update.


On a seperate note; Ink and shiv, looked like fun fights.  Thanks for the films.

NP, thanx for putting this together :salute

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 04, 2010, 01:00:22 PM
Me and hlbly have set something up for high noon (est) on Saturday...

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 04, 2010, 01:12:50 PM
Results:

Bye:  Spit16
Mazz:  190A5
Bye:  Spit 16

Great fights!



(Juv and I should get together this weekend)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 04, 2010, 01:14:07 PM
Results:

Bye:  Spit16
Mazz:  190A5
Bye:  Spit 16

Great fights!



(Juv and I should get together this weekend)
:rofl :rofl :rofl Hes a spit dweeb?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 04, 2010, 02:25:28 PM
By my current calculations this is going to be a 114 page thread.   :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: maddafinga on February 04, 2010, 02:52:51 PM
Because of work and time differences Bruv and I won't be going until Saturday evening.  I'll post my losses and the films of them afterward.  Should be fun!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 04, 2010, 04:04:53 PM
By my current calculations this is going to be a 114 page thread.   :D

What else are we supposed to do at work?

Work?

Please...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 04, 2010, 04:09:04 PM
Yeah, I didn't spend all that money for a blackberry to talk on it. Sheesh
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: angels10 on February 04, 2010, 08:18:52 PM
P47d40  -  Dbcooper

LA5 -  Dbcooper

   <<S>> Sir fun fight.

Angels10
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 04, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
Thanks for the duels Angels10. I'm surprized i hit anything with those LA5 guns  :lol It was fun!  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilo2 on February 04, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
109 E- TnDep
La5FN- TnDep

Good fights thanks for the tips and good luck in the next round. :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jimbo71 on February 04, 2010, 08:48:31 PM

xxxJCxxx vs. AAJagerX

round 1)  AAJagerX 109E-4
round 2)  AAJagerX Hurri Mk I

Salute AAJagerX  good fights, and good luck in the next round
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 04, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
Kil02 Thanks for the fun fights :salute and your welcome.  I wish you the best in all your future endeavors.



109 E- TnDep
La5FN- TnDep

Good fights thanks for the tips and good luck in the next round. :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 04, 2010, 09:32:46 PM
P-47N IrishOne
Spit V IrishOne

Just for fun

P-51D IrishOne

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dkff49 on February 04, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
p38j- rud3boi
p40b- rud3boi

great fights   (even the one where i augered  :eek:  )

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: horble on February 04, 2010, 11:39:16 PM
I-16 AKelfy
190A5 AKelfy


Good fights man <S>


...guess I should've gone with the dora though ;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Fox on February 05, 2010, 12:01:28 AM
110G2 - TonyJoey
F4u1a - 4Fox
Spit 5 - TonyJoey

Good luck rest of the tourny.

Thanks for putting this together BE <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 05, 2010, 12:13:14 AM
Apache, please check your PM's.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 05, 2010, 01:30:04 AM
xxxJCxxx vs. AAJagerX

round 1)  AAJagerX 109E-4
round 2)  AAJagerX Hurri Mk I

Salute AAJagerX  good fights, and good luck in the next round

Ty sir, those were some good fights. 

<<S>>
AAJagerX
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 05, 2010, 09:07:18 AM
Yeah, I didn't spend all that money for a blackberry to talk on it. Sheesh

Sucker.  Company pays for mine.

YARHARHARHAR!!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 05, 2010, 01:04:45 PM
Haha well the company is paying me while I'm on it!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: IrishOne on February 05, 2010, 01:12:16 PM
P-47N IrishOne
Spit V IrishOne

Just for fun

P-51D IrishOne

 :salute
:salute fun fights BE, great job putting all this together
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Dadano on February 05, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
I want to play. Anyone with a bye that wants to fight?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sandwich on February 05, 2010, 02:02:22 PM
Im gonna have to forfeit the tournament.

Someone snuck a small star in my computer and it turned into a black hole sucking all the components into it.

Im SOL because of my financial situation so I wont be getting a new PC for quite some time.
 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 05, 2010, 03:02:44 PM
Heya BaldEagl,
you got madda listed in both the bottom left bracket  going up against Bruv119  and then again in the bottom Right Bracket with a 1st round bye.....

just incase you have not caught it yet.....


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on February 05, 2010, 03:34:07 PM
<S> horble GFs, I got lucky in that 1st one when we both stalled the I16; coulda went either way :salute  elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 05, 2010, 05:18:32 PM
due to work flatiron and i will be dueling till this Sat afternoon
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 05, 2010, 06:13:49 PM
I want to play. Anyone with a bye that wants to fight?

Too late.  We only have two days to go till this round ends and I've already stated that I won't let any more late arrivals in since results are being posted.  It's a matter of not allowing any type of player manipulation of the brackets.  Sign-ups lasted for two weeks.  The next sign-up period will probably begin near the end of May.

Im gonna have to forfeit the tournament.

Someone snuck a small star in my computer and it turned into a black hole sucking all the components into it.

Im SOL because of my financial situation so I wont be getting a new PC for quite some time.
 

This will give Vinkman a buy and a forfiet to advance to the third round.  I considered other alternatives but anything else I did would remove the record of your win from the bracket.

Heya BaldEagl,
you got madda listed in both the bottom left bracket  going up against Bruv119  and then again in the bottom Right Bracket with a 1st round bye.....

just incase you have not caught it yet.....




Already taken care of.  I also missed v1st.  This was noted near the end of the first post in this thread.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 05, 2010, 09:00:35 PM
Im gonna have to forfeit the tournament.

Someone snuck a small star in my computer and it turned into a black hole sucking all the components into it.

Im SOL because of my financial situation so I wont be getting a new PC for quite some time.
 
Sorry to hear about this. I hope you get things up and running again soon  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 05, 2010, 09:31:38 PM
Im gonna have to forfeit the tournament.

Someone snuck a small star in my computer and it turned into a black hole sucking all the components into it.

Im SOL because of my financial situation so I wont be getting a new PC for quite some time.
 

Heya Sandwich,
if ya don't mind? send me a PM or email me thru my profile letting me know your PC specs and if anything is salvageable.... I may be able to help ya quiet possibly with some left over spare parts....

some of this wonderful AH community has donated / volunteered parts to help a fellow AH Member get back in the game and I have some extras..... depending on what you might need.... <fingers crossed for ya>  ( maybe others in this dueling tournament might be willing & able to help as well )
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sandwich on February 05, 2010, 10:22:44 PM
Heya Sandwich,
if ya don't mind? send me a PM or email me thru my profile letting me know your PC specs and if anything is salvageable.... I may be able to help ya quiet possibly with some left over spare parts....

some of this wonderful AH community has donated / volunteered parts to help a fellow AH Member get back in the game and I have some extras..... depending on what you might need.... <fingers crossed for ya>  ( maybe others in this dueling tournament might be willing & able to help as well )

Thanks TC.

I had my uncle come look and see what's salvagable.

My graphics card and power supply are dead.

My computer was trash anyway and i was already looking for a replacement before it bricked.

Im getting a new pc in about 5-10 weeks depending on how soon i can get the money.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sandwich on February 05, 2010, 10:27:04 PM
Bald, when you mean my win erased from record do you mean waystin will be able to fight again like its the first round against vinkman?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Raptor on February 05, 2010, 10:48:05 PM
Mazz I thought you were going to get snowed in this weekend! Where are you on a Friday night? a date? pffft :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 06, 2010, 12:26:34 AM
Bald, when you mean my win erased from record do you mean waystin will be able to fight again like its the first round against vinkman?

No.  I considered letting waystin move forward but if I did he'd have to take the slot that showed you won the duel against him in order to match him up against Vinkman.  I'm not willing to do that.  You got the win and the record should show that.  Instead of a plane assignment between you and Vinkman it will be listed as Forfiet and Vinkman will advance.  waystin's out by a loss, you're out by a forfiet and Vinkman advances just as it should be. 

The same is going to happen with TC and greens for this round as greens still doesn't have his connection issues straightened out.  The I-16 assignment will dissapear and be replaced by a Forfiet and TC will advance.  Showing a Forfiet instead of a plane assignment is something new I'm introducing with this tournament just as listing the Byes in the first round was.  I just think the official record should be complete and accurate.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 06, 2010, 12:29:06 AM
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Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kirin on February 06, 2010, 06:53:55 AM
Due to skiing holidays and timezone difference Hopper vs. me duel with be early PST this sunday.

Sorry for the delay!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 06, 2010, 08:37:44 AM
11 duels to go (almost half) with a day and a half to get them in.  I know you're all working hard to get them arranged and that the weekend is "prime time" but someone has to be the nag.   ;)


BTW, when I logged into the DA Thursday night there were something like 167 players in there!  It was almost as many as one of the LW MA's.  I don't ever recall seeing that many in there.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 06, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
Husky and I will being definitely dueling on Sunday, sorry for the delay
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 06, 2010, 09:09:16 AM
BTW, when I logged into the DA Thursday night there were something like 167 players in there!  It was almost as many as one of the LW MA's.  I don't ever recall seeing that many in there.

I'm going to put this on the wishlist (great except all the perks flying)but the DA is becoming quite the place, besides all the perks.  Short flights and awesome fights equals great fun.  It's nothing on Friday or Saturday night to have over 100 people at the lake.

Now if you took the lake and made the planes where perks weren't free, it would be a really nice change. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bosco123 on February 06, 2010, 10:57:21 AM
Misfire and I will have a fight sometime today (hopefully) around 3 EST.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jocrp6 on February 06, 2010, 03:14:54 PM
  I lost!   good fights Bosco! <S>
                                                  Misfire,
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Boozeman on February 06, 2010, 04:21:16 PM
P-47 D25 - dedalos
Ta152 - dedalos

Congrats <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: flatiron1 on February 06, 2010, 04:21:59 PM
flatiron   tempest

kilz p51 d


kilz a6m5b


wtg

fun fights afterward also
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 06, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
flatiron   tempest

kilz p51 d


kilz a6m5b


wtg

fun fights afterward also
Could I see the films please....this would be the first I remember when the person who won the first duel lost the second and third :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 06, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
flatiron - vs - kilz round 1 tempest - flatiron

flatiron - vs - kilz round 2 P51D - kilz

flatiron - vs - kilz round 3 A6M5B - kilz

http://www.filefront.com/15519493/flatiron%20vs%20kilz%20round%202.ahf

http://www.filefront.com/15519515/flatiron%20vs%20kilz%20round%203.ahf
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 06, 2010, 04:36:19 PM
i dont have round one my auto record did not start for some reason flatiron said he filmed it
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: maddafinga on February 06, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
Round 1 Spit Mk1    Bruv119


Round 2 Ki-61        Bruv119


Just nerves I guess, stalled both times and I almost never stall.  Good fights though Bruv, thanks for whipping me.  Hopefully I'll do better next time.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: flatiron1 on February 06, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
round 1 vs Kilz  tempset

http://www.mediafire.com/?i5gjez4jojq
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kirin on February 06, 2010, 05:02:25 PM
Round 1

La7       - Hopper
190A8   - Kirin
109K4   - Hopper


Nice fight! Got a lucky shot on the second, augered on the third! Got whipped in the La7!  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Genaral_Lee20 on February 06, 2010, 05:15:17 PM
Ok I am in :airplane: :x
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 06, 2010, 05:20:26 PM
 :lol gitter done
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 06, 2010, 05:52:27 PM
Ok I am in :airplane: :x

FAIL. Sorry, have to wait til next tourney
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Hopper on February 06, 2010, 08:12:41 PM
Round 1

La7       - Hopper
190A8   - Kirin
109K4   - Hopper


Nice fight! Got a lucky shot on the second, augered on the third! Got whipped in the La7!  :salute

 Good fights!  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Changeup on February 06, 2010, 09:42:07 PM
P51B - Longbow
Brewster - Changeup
K4 - Longbow

Great fights....give it a try again next time....

Thanks L0ngb0w....much appreciated

V/r

Changeup
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 07, 2010, 04:23:12 AM
Round 1 Spit Mk1    Bruv119


Round 2 Ki-61        Bruv119


Just nerves I guess, stalled both times and I almost never stall.  Good fights though Bruv, thanks for whipping me.  Hopefully I'll do better next time.


it was a little nerve racking that first fight having all that E pent up in a spit 1, I struggled to get the flaps on and throttle work was non existant at the start.  The old deathspin is bad news usually comes on when your pushing to hard with the flap left down. 

better luck next time   :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 07, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
Heres advice....you need to win the first fight :aok I noticed that almost nobody ever wins the second and third round, either first 2 or 1st and 3rd......practice more with your first bird :aok :salute
Still no exceptions...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Raptor on February 07, 2010, 11:38:24 AM
I haven't heard from Mazz since Thursday, we were going to meet up this weekend to duel. He mentioned a heavy snowstorm coming through and I wonder if he lost power or internet over the weekend.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 07, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
Heres advice....you need to win the first fight :aok I noticed that almost nobody ever wins the second and third round, either first 2 or 1st and 3rd......practice more with your first bird :aok :salute


SLAP SLAP shut your mouth  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 07, 2010, 03:16:15 PM
I haven't heard from Mazz since Thursday, we were going to meet up this weekend to duel. He mentioned a heavy snowstorm coming through and I wonder if he lost power or internet over the weekend.

Both.  Back up today.

-M
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Raptor on February 07, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
Ta-152 Mazz
P38L Juvat
109G-2 Mazz
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 07, 2010, 08:02:08 PM
Yo husky, get online bro im in the MA waiting. It's 2am now so going to try and stay online late as possible.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 07, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
Yo husky, get online bro im in the MA waiting. It's 2am now so going to try and stay online late as possible.

This is why I didn't do this tourney.  Too much scheduling and waiting for only 2-3 fights.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bubbajj on February 07, 2010, 08:34:14 PM
As if you have something better to do? I don't do these tourneys because I'll draw someone like Bat or Suns or some other uberstick on the first round and that would be that.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 07, 2010, 08:37:42 PM
Yeah well I hope husky does show...I wouldn't want bat to get through by forfeit....I want to know my next opponent has fair and square earned his right.......



























































to kick my butt    :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: flatiron1 on February 07, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
This is why I didn't do this tourney.  Too much scheduling and waiting for only 2-3 fights.


Kilz and me had 8 fights
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 07, 2010, 09:10:21 PM
lol tongs, i am prone to augering often never predict the outcome till you see me hit that tree  :devil
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 07, 2010, 10:37:50 PM

Kilz and me had 8 fights

was a fun 8 fights thanks for the extra fights flatiron
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on February 08, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Sorry to say it, but it looks like Sol and I didn't get our duels in despite efforts on both of our parts. I believe 40 lashes is a suitable punishment?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 08, 2010, 08:36:20 AM
I was online from 00:45 till 06:30 sunday night which more than covers the time we had suggested Husky....where you at??   Hope it's nothing serious.   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 10:30:27 AM
The first week is done and now we really get rolling but first there's some housekeeping issues to attend to.

I made a mistake in the original bracket missing v1st and placing madda in the bracket twice.  That mistake was corrected immediately and is reflected in this update.

We had four players join late (after the initial bracket posting).  Three of them joined before the first results were posted and were immediately assigned duels.  The other joined the following morning and, while I didn't want to add any players at that point, it was an opportunity for me to balance the two sides of the bracket so I let him in.  Those players are:

In-game -  BBs

AApache   -   AApache
Doolitle   -   doalot
kilz   -   kilz
xxxJCxxx   -   Jimbo71


We also had a name change.  dhart is now Doomsday in-game.  His BBs name remains dhart.

In future tournaments I will not allow late entries.  Please abide by the sign-up deadlines if you intend to play.

greens had to forfeit the first round due to connection issues.  This is reflected in the bracket and TC advances.

sandwich had to forfeit the balance of the tournament after beating waystin2.  This means that Vinkman who had a first round bye now advances another round through forfeit.  Sorry Vinkman but now you have to wait another week.  If you missed it in this thread this was my explanation to sandwich:

I considered letting waystin move forward but if I did he'd have to take the slot that showed you won the duel against him in order to match him up against Vinkman.  I'm not willing to do that.  You got the win and the record should show that.  Instead of a plane assignment between you and Vinkman it will be listed as Forfeit and Vinkman will advance.  waystin's out by a loss, you're out by a forfeit and Vinkman advances just as it should be.

We had four unfought duels this week.

In accordance with the following rule:  - If a duel cannot be arranged between two players each player will have a chance to post the circumstances in this thread prior to the posting deadline.  If only one player posts and it is clear that they are making an attempt to arrange their duel then that player will advance, provided their post was at least 48 hours prior to the round closing deadline. If both players post and it is clear that the issue lies with only one player then the player not at fault will advance.  If it is unclear which player is at fault, if neither player posts, or if a single player posts inside the 48 hour window then a random draw will determine which player advances.

Kazaa advances over AApache.  Kazaa posted on 2/4 and on 2/5 with no postings or response by AApache.
Strip advances over hlbly.  Strip posted on 2/3 and 2/4 with no postings or response by hlbly.

While WMSol and cactus should be determined by random draw, since cactus posted this morning that they had both been attempting to arrange their duel I am granting them a 48 hour extension to complete this duel.  If no results are posted within that deadline then the winner will be determined by random draw.

In addition and in further accordance with the following rule: - If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series.  In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time and a screenshot of the DA roster showing that the opponent is a no show no later than 12:00 midnight CDT Sunday following posting of the updated bracket.

batfinkv and Bearkats should be determined by random draw (posting inside the 48 hour window).  Since batfink posted that he was awaiting Bearkats in the DA I asked batfink to PM me evidence of the duel confirmation which he did.  Unfortunately, there was no specific time mentioned in that PM.  Due to the fact that I am unwilling to advance a player who might cause further disruption in later rounds I am giving these guys 48 hours to either get a duel in or post a convincing argument why they should advance.  If no results are posted by midnight Tuesday with no posts from Bearkats then batfinkv will advance as he appears to be more active in arranging this duel.  If Bearkats posts it may lead to a random draw to see who advances depending on the content of his post.  Of course I'd prefer to see results of a duel.

In both these cases I will assign planes for the next round as soon as an advancer has been determined so Grue and Tongs, you'll have a plane assignment in this thread no later than Wednesday morning.  These extensions will not delay the midnight Sunday deadline to get the next duels in and posted with their round two opponents.

Finally, we had one person who didn't properly post results.  As a refresher results must be posted by the loser of the duel series as follows:

   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner (if needed)

We do it this way to verify that the duels are uncontested and to confirm that the first duel was fought in the assigned plane.

I want to thank those who have posted films.  There were some very good duels in this first round.  If you haven't watched the posted films I highly suggest doing so.

For those who lost quickly (as I did... three times now), my most recent loss prompted me to swallow my pride after 14 years of doing this and hook up with a trainer in the TA.  It was an enlightening experience that taught me a lot in the two hours I spent with MtnMan last night.  This was after studying my films of the fights extensively where I noticed several mistakes on my own.  No matter what stage of the game you think you're at a couple of hours of film study and a couple with a trainer (or one of the games better sticks) will probably help you out.  Sorry trainers but I knew you were bored.  ;)  Anyway, the point is use this experience to improve then come back next time with new knowledge and give it another try.  Three losses in a row were finally my tipping pont.  I'm looking forward to some DA action between now and the next tourney where I can practice what I've learned.

So, with that all said we had 24 duels scheduled last week.  Congratulations to those who made it through the first round.  This week we have 32 duels scheduled so the pace picks up and from this point forward everyone plays every week until they are eliminated unless there's a forfeit.

Good luck to all.  Here's the updated bracket:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-9.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 10:37:42 AM
In hlbly's defense we did get together on Thursday, unfortunately he had a new stick and was working out the details. Having fought hlbly before and had good times with him I offered to meet him Saturday morning. Later that day we broke our motor at race track, with a points race scheduled on Saturday night and a ton of work to be done to get it ready. Come Saturday morning I could not take an hour or so to run home and duel him at our arranged time, my fault completely. The bracket has been set, however I would like a one night reprieve and try to get this done. After that I will go with whatever you have to say BaldEagl, I regret we forced your hand in the first place.

<S>

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 10:54:54 AM
In hlbly's defense we did get together on Thursday, unfortunately he had a new stick and was working out the details. Having fought hlbly before and had good times with him I offered to meet him Saturday morning. Later that day we broke our motor at race track, with a points race scheduled on Saturday night and a ton of work to be done to get it ready. Come Saturday morning I could not take an hour or so to run home and duel him at our arranged time, my fault completely. The bracket has been set, however I would like a one night reprieve and try to get this done. After that I will go with whatever you have to say BaldEagl, I regret we forced your hand in the first place.

<S>

Strip

OK.  I'll grant a 48 hour extension.  There will be a new plane assigned after the results are posted.  If no results are posted then an advancer will be determined by random draw since both of you appear to be at fault (no posts from hlbly and a missed duel by you).

In the future please post these things before I update the bracket.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 08, 2010, 10:58:31 AM
DB, I may try and get on one or two evenings but it's tough to predict work related calls. How about about shooting for Friday evening sometime in the 7pm or later (CST) bracket? If not let me know what works for you and I'll try and accommodate.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 08, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
PM sent to rufleak :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 11:12:08 AM
I had a rough Thursday-Sunday so I apologize, we broke our motor and its been a thrash to get it back together. We are rebuilding our main bullet all this week as the engine suffered a close call. I logged on just now, managed to see hlbly online and we fought it out.

First round             P-39Q.........hlbly
Second round         P-47M........Strip
Third round            P-38L.........Strip

Good fights hlbly, we should get together soon and have some fun rounds.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Vinkman on February 08, 2010, 11:15:35 AM
11 duels to go (almost half) with a day and a half to get them in.  I know you're all working hard to get them arranged and that the weekend is "prime time" but someone has to be the nag.   ;)


BTW, when I logged into the DA Thursday night there were something like 167 players in there!  It was almost as many as one of the LW MA's.  I don't ever recall seeing that many in there.

Lot's of folks getting some practice. I was in there for over an hour with JUGgler. Thanks again to JUGler the lessons. <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
SWneo,

Lets get this one in early, my motor is sitting in a bunch of pieces so the longer this one goes the busier I am going to get.

:lol

PM sent as well

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 11:28:10 AM
I had a rough Thursday-Sunday so I apologize, we broke our motor and its been a thrash to get it back together. We are rebuilding our main bullet all this week as the engine suffered a close call. I logged on just now, managed to see hlbly online and we fought it out.

First round             P-39Q.........hlbly
Second round         P-47M........Strip
Third round            P-38L.........Strip

Good fights hlbly, we should get together soon and have some fun rounds.

Strip

I can't assign a plane for the next round until hlbly posts (disputed results) otherwise the review committee will have to see films.  We'll give him until this evening to post.  If he hasn't then you'll need to post links to the films and I'll need the review committee members to make a determination by midnight Wednesday confirming or denying these results.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 08, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
gah i cant slide the image over with my phone. could someone tell me who im dueling? btw im avail any day after 8pm est.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 12:11:57 PM
gah i cant slide the image over with my phone. could someone tell me who im dueling? btw im avail any day after 8pm est.

You've got Doolitle in a Bf-110C-4b
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 08, 2010, 12:55:46 PM
PM sent to SkyRock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 08, 2010, 01:00:26 PM
CandyMan - I am on every night after 8 central
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 08, 2010, 01:01:20 PM

batfinkv and Bearkats should be determined by random draw (posting inside the 48 hour window).  Since batfink posted that he was awaiting Bearkats in the DA I asked batfink to PM me evidence of the duel confirmation which he did.  Unfortunately, there was no specific time mentioned in that PM.  Due to the fact that I am unwilling to advance a player who might cause further disruption in later rounds I am giving these guys 48 hours to either get a duel in or post a convincing argument why they should advance.  If no results are posted by midnight Tuesday with no posts from Bearkats then batfinkv will advance as he appears to be more active in arranging this duel.  If Bearkats posts it may lead to a random draw to see who advances depending on the content of his post.  


Well if he posted anywhere in the last two days it would be helpfull  ;)

My squaddies add/or Stodd could all verify that i was online last night waiting for a number of hours. I would much prefer a dueling result to a bye/random draw myself also.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: greens on February 08, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
Aww man! i lost!! HMMPFFF!! turns away stomps feet. i lost easily lol i jk <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 08, 2010, 01:07:42 PM

Well if he posted anywhere in the last two days it would be helpfull  ;)

My squaddies add/or Stodd could all verify that i was online last night waiting for a number of hours. I would much prefer a dueling result to a bye/random draw myself also.

Bat was in the DA for at list the couple of hours that I was on.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 08, 2010, 01:10:12 PM
Thanks Ded.   

It's rather strange actualy

Husky last posted - on: February 06, 2010, 02:09:40 PM

Husky last online - Last Active:  Today at 08:58:11 AM


What's up with that husky??
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 08, 2010, 01:40:43 PM
What's up with that husky??

Delaying the inevitable!!!11   :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 08, 2010, 01:51:56 PM
I can't see image on my phone either. I believe I got mjsmoke but don't know the plane. Can someone fill me in,please please with sugar on top?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Soulyss on February 08, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
I can't see image on my phone either. I believe I got mjsmoke but don't know the plane. Can someone fill me in,please please with sugar on top?

P-40E
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 08, 2010, 02:03:57 PM
Thanks. Should be interesting
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Husky01 on February 08, 2010, 02:35:34 PM
double post
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Husky01 on February 08, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Thanks Ded.   

It's rather strange actualy

Husky last posted - on: February 06, 2010, 02:09:40 PM

Husky last online - Last Active:  Today at 08:58:11 AM


What's up with that husky??


Agh! Sorry Bat! My power has been out most the weekend from this last snow storm! I had been active via my Ipod touch off the Starbucks wifi down the street!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 08, 2010, 02:37:53 PM


First round             P-39Q.........hlbly
Second round         P-47M........Strip
Third round            P-38L.........Strip



Interesting.  This fight series goes against Junky's theory...just sayin.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Husky01 on February 08, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
Catching up on my reading here Batfink sound definitely move on as I was the one who couldn't make the fights!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Ghastly on February 08, 2010, 02:44:33 PM
Quote
In both these cases I will assign planes for the next round as soon as an advancer has been determined so Grue and Tongs, you'll have a plane assignment in this thread no later than Wednesday morning.

Understood.  Thanks for all the effort organizing.

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 08, 2010, 02:58:30 PM

Agh! Sorry Bat! My power has been out most the weekend from this last snow storm! I had been active via my Ipod touch off the Starbucks wifi down the street!

Aw well, it's  a shame but can't be helped. Damn snow!

S!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dhyran on February 08, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
hiho cursed

i can make it on friday afternoon from 4 pm til 8pm

will send pm too

<S> dhyran
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 08, 2010, 03:11:32 PM
Received and reply sent.

Cursed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
Catching up on my reading here Batfink sound definitely move on as I was the one who couldn't make the fights!

Are you forfeiting?  You do have until midnight Tuesday to get the duel in.  If you don't get it in or are actually forfeiting then I'll advance batfink.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stodd on February 08, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
I was in the DA fighting batfinkv for probably the better part of an hour last night, I wana say somewhere between 10:40-11:40 time EST. That time frame is a rough guess but I can say for a fact batfink was definitely their.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 08, 2010, 04:25:13 PM

Agh! Sorry Bat! My power has been out most the weekend from this last snow storm! I had been active via my Ipod touch off the Starbucks wifi down the street!

I live in NC and we caught the sourthen tip of these storms, we had 6 to 8 inches of snow and then bout 1/2inch of ice ......

we have people just an hour North of us still without power and it just gets worse from there on up north thru the US...

also, with the upcoming Scenario, I am most positive Husky was prob receiving pop-ups for PM's multiple times everytime he tried to view the bbs.....

just saying.... ( Husky is the Allied CO for the scenario )
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 08, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Interesting.  This fight series goes against Junky's theory...just sayin.

there was three fight series that goes against Junku's theory :neener:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 08, 2010, 06:47:47 PM
DB, I may try and get on one or two evenings but it's tough to predict work related calls. How about about shooting for Friday evening sometime in the 7pm or later (CST) bracket? If not let me know what works for you and I'll try and accommodate.
Friday @ 7 central it is! That'll give me time to practice and maybe give you a good fight  :joystick: :salute


what the hell is a i16?  :uhoh guess i'll go see if it has wings and a motor   :confused:


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 08, 2010, 07:23:09 PM
fun little bird, big difference in handling between the gun packs however...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bosco123 on February 08, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
Mossie-Twizzty
P51D-Bosco
C202-Twizzty

Excellent fights Twizz, some of the best fight's I've had in a wile.

<S>!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Twizzty on February 08, 2010, 08:28:40 PM
<S> Bosco, absolutely bud.

Those were some of the best 1 on 1 fights I've ever had...thank you!  

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stodd on February 08, 2010, 08:37:29 PM
F4u1D-Dedalos
BF109G14-Dedalos

Great fights, we will have to do them again sometime, mabey I can teach you the "blackedout merge" manuver.
 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 08, 2010, 09:52:21 PM
Interesting.  This fight series goes against Junky's theory...just sayin.
You dont need to "Just Say" BOI!!!

It is wierd how its changed ever since I said that :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 10:10:09 PM
I would think its rather common among equally matched pilots, the pilot who lucks out and get his favorite ride wins the first round. Perhaps the better pilot makes a fatal flaw, equipment malfunction, you name it, I lost the first duel of round one against hlbly while fighting a joystick that lost calibration.

Who knows....

SWneo....sorry I was in and out but wanted to get started on RL issues, anytime you want to go duel for a few fun rounds let me know.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: phatzo on February 08, 2010, 10:13:25 PM
You dont need to "Just Say" BOI!!!

It is wierd how its changed ever since I said that :salute
Murphy's law
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 08, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
Murphy's law
he ll call it Junky's Law now  :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 08, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
he ll call it Junky's Law now  :bolt:
:huh
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
Following is a PM sent to Strip, hlbly and all review committee members:

Strip, since hlbly didn't post the results of your duel to confirm his loss you are now a contested winner, therefore I need you to post the films of all three fights.  Please do this as soon as possible.

The review committee (who is copied on this PM) will need to review these films by no later than midnight Wednesday to confirm your win.  Review committee, please PM your individual determinations to me.  I have also copied the review committee alternates on this PM.  Please review the films and PM me your determinations as well which I will use if a review committe regular member hasn't responded by the deadline.

I am also going to post this PM in the bracket thread.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: infowars on February 08, 2010, 11:48:49 PM
Round 1: Strip whopped up on me in a 110

Round 2: Strip whopped up on me a little less in a Yak 9T

lol...  <S>  That great.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 11:55:40 PM
Me and hlbly screwed the pooch as far as the parameters of the fight though. We forgot the 10k merge alt and the fact that the fights were supposed to be over the canyons. We both agreed on a set altitude and afterward neither side had any negative comments about the fights.

hlbly1 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/04cd1b35-f641-4414-8caf-1b44d87e1d8f/hlbly1)

hlbly2 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/fe42b224-8ec4-48f5-ae65-e40b99e6f004/hlbly2)

hlbly3 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/ef42d1a0-8534-4428-af05-e54afd1e3e30/hlbly3)

<S> Strip

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 08, 2010, 11:59:32 PM
Round 1: Strip whopped up on me in a 110

Round 2: Strip whopped up on me a little less in a Yak 9T

lol...  <S>  That great.

I had fun SWneo, anytime you want to go to the DA and have a few fun rounds let me know.

Will also be glad to answer any questions as well....

 :rock :salute :cheers:

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 09, 2010, 12:13:07 AM
Regardless of the outcome of the Stip/hlbly review the Strip/SWneo results are invalid.  You cannot complete a duel series without an officially assigned random plane selection for the first duel.  A plane will be assigned after the review committee weighs in on the results of the Strip/hlbly duels.  

Furthermore, I will leave it to the review committee to advise me as to whether or not those results should even be considered given the disregard for the official rules.  If, in the committee's opinion, the results should be disregarded, a winner will be determined by random draw.

If, by review committee recomendation or by random draw, Strip wins/advances, the Strip/SWneo duels will need to be re-fought after a first round plane has been assigned.  Those duels will need to be completed by midnight Sunday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 09, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
Your joking right...

You clearly picked the 110C4B as the plane for SWneo and I to duel with, how is that not random? Also had I not voiced my wish to get the fights in with hlbly the 110C it would have been okay? What part of the previous fight invalidates the plane pick you randomly assigned for the next round? Hell, I had to set my view in the blasted pile of junk to begin with....

This is becoming more trouble than its worth, three people had fun fights and walked away from the outcome with no hard feelings.

Strip

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 09, 2010, 12:25:15 AM
Your joking right...

You clearly picked the 110C4B as the plane for SWneo and I to duel with, how is that not random? Also had I not voiced my wish to get the fights in with hlbly in the 110C it would have been okay?

This is becoming more trouble than its worth, three people had fun fights and walked away from the outcome with no hard feelings....

Strip



OK.  I'll grant a 48 hour extension.  There will be a new plane assigned after the results are posted.  If no results are posted then an advancer will be determined by random draw since both of you appear to be at fault (no posts from hlbly and a missed duel by you).

In the future please post these things before I update the bracket.

We'll let the committee decide.  They are here for just this type of dispute.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 03:49:05 AM
first i heard about the canyons whats up with that?  :huh . You'd think with something lke this you'd want the better pilot to win and not have terrain become a deciding factor.. 10k merge too  :headscratch: Just sayin  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 09, 2010, 06:25:39 AM
Quote
- All duels will take place in the DA canyon area.
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling at all times prior to the merge.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.

The Dueling Rules have been in place starting with the very 1st Tournament like this........

this is the 3rd 1vs1 Dueling Tournament that BaldEagl has hosted.......

The Rules are always double posted ......1st before registering begins, then when the official starting bracket is posted......

Gots To Follow The RULES...... everyone else does :old:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 09, 2010, 06:27:33 AM
Strip, you're being a pain in the arse
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 09, 2010, 06:35:59 AM
-Me and hlbly screwed the pooch as far as the parameters of the fight though.

-We forgot the 10k merge alt and the fact that the fights were supposed to be over the canyons.
 

That right there, disqualifies the whole match you had.....and you openly admit that you screwed up........

the Review Committee is making a decision right now...... please be patient
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
The Dueling Rules have been in place starting with the very 1st Tournament like this........

this is the 3rd 1vs1 Dueling Tournament that BaldEagl has hosted.......

The Rules are always double posted ......1st before registering begins, then when the official starting bracket is posted......

Gots To Follow The RULES...... everyone else does :old:
yes i know tc and will follow then i just have to question ba if he dueled much before making these rules or consulted anyone  (such as yourself) prior to. i dont remember him being a regular in the da granted its been a couple years.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 09, 2010, 06:44:52 AM
yes i know tc and will follow then i just have to question ba if he dueled much before making these rules or consulted anyone  (such as yourself) prior to. i dont remember him being a regular in the da granted its been a couple years.

Actually, BE did consult a few about the rules for a good bit of time....... It would be unfair to do duels like most of the top ? say 20% who duel at fields like 23&24 in the DA on the deck with no alt for "mistake recovery"? hope you get the meaning of that......

the top duelers are so dang fast and can merge very quickly with out having a good bit of seperation.....

the rules were designed to give everyone a fighting chance

hope this helps...  :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 06:56:54 AM
Actually, BE did consult a few about the rules for a good bit of time....... It would be unfair to do duels like most of the top ? say 20% who duel at fields like 23&24 in the DA on the deck with no alt for "mistake recovery"? hope you get the meaning of that......

the top duelers are so dang fast and can merge very quickly with out having a good bit of seperation.....

the rules were designed to give everyone a fighting chance

hope this helps...  :cheers:
i understand to a point but i think the canyon and unfamiliar planeset kinda contradicts ur " give everyone a fighting chance " theory. would say they heavily favor the skilled more so than a lower alt would.  ps sorry im on a bus otw to work with nothing better to do but argue a point w/ my cell.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
imo i believe it should be up to the duelists to decide parameters and if they cant then the standard 10k/canyons would be in effect. the only thing etched in stone should be the plane set. Anyways its just an opinion, nothing to take personally, and possibly something to take as a suggestion for the next tourny  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dhyran on February 09, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
imo i believe it should be up to the duelists to decide parameters and if they cant then the standard 10k/canyons would be in effect......

if everyone follow his own rules you never get a balance into the whole event!
From my point of view its a great Ruleset! There is nothing left open, just follow these Rules by BE and have Fun!


Following is a re-posting of the rules.  Please make sure that you read and understand them.  

- Brackets will be determined by random draw of names produced by a random number generator in MS Excel.
- If the number of players exceeds a full round I will work them into the bracket although they will have to fly one more round than other players.  They will be chosen randomly and disbursed evenly through pre-selected slots in the bracket to achieve balance at the nearest bracket root(s).
-   If a player changes their in-game or BBs name during the tournament they must either post that change in the bracket and results thread or PM me with the change.
- Duels must be arranged between the players by PM, IM, e-mail or other means to take place by midnight CST/CDT Sunday following each bracket update (6 days).
- Duels will be best of three.
- First duel plane selection will be assigned using a random number generator to select from all available fighter and fighter/attack aircraft (except the Me163 and Me262).  This will be done individually for each set of duelers.
- The loser of each duel selects the aircraft for the next duel.  This allows the loser to pick his/her best aircraft to get back into contention and if it goes three rounds each player will have had one plane selection.
- All duels will take place in the DA canyon area.
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling at all times prior to the merge.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.
- In the case of a draw (both run out of fuel for instance) that duel will be re-fought using the same aircraft.
- In the case of a collision:
   * If only one player collides (only one gets the collision message) the duel continues.
   * If both players collide (both get the collision message) the duel immediately ends and will be re-started in the same planes.
- Intentionally ditching or bailing constitutes forfeiture of the duel.
- The intent is for players to remain in close proximity to one another (2-3K max).  That said if at any time the players lose icon range on one another the duel ends immediately and will be re-started using the same planes.  This should allow a dueler to simply turn away from a runner to nullify the duel.
- If an uninvited third party interrupts the duel the duel is immediately ended and will be re-started using the same plane.  The dueling participants may move to another mutually agreed upon set of fields in the DA in this instance.
- Once one player has been shot down and the other receives a kill message the duel ends.  There is no need to land.
- If a player disco's the duel will be re-fought in the same planes as soon as the discoing player re-logs.  If he does not or is unable to re-log within 15 minutes he will lose the duel series by default.  A second disco by the same player in a duel series will result in forfeiture of the remaining duels in that series.
- Both players will film all duels in case of a dispute.
- Films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from the quarter final round forward for the viewing pleasure of the community.  Films may be posted during earlier rounds if both participants agree.
- The losing player will post in this thread after the duel series in the following format:
  
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner (if needed)

The loser posting is a means to verify that the results are uncontested.  If the loser hasn't posted by the deadline then the winner may post the results but they will be deemed contested.
- This information must be posted by no later than 12:00 midnight CST/CDT (as appropriate) Sunday following the posting of the updated bracket so that I can get the brackets updated and re-posted on Monday.
- If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series.  In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time and a screenshot of the DA roster showing that the opponent is a no show no later than 12:00 midnight CDT Sunday following posting of the updated bracket.
- If a duel cannot be arranged between two players each player will have a chance to post the circumstances in this thread prior to the posting deadline.  If only one player posts and it is clear that they are making an attempt to arrange their duel then that player will advance, provided their post was at least 48 hours prior to the round closing deadline. If both players post and it is clear that the issue lies with only one player then the player not at fault will advance.  If it is unclear which player is at fault, if neither player posts, or if a single player posts inside the 48 hour window then a random draw will determine which player advances.  
- In the case of contested results both player’s films will be reviewed by the review committee and a determination will be posted no later than 48 hours after the initial posting deadline.  The review committee may overturn posted results.  If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made a winner will be selected by random draw.  The review committee's determination will be final.  Because this will delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own.  In any case, the next duels deadlines WILL NOT be delayed.
- The initial bracket will be posted on Monday, February 1 and each Monday thereafter until a winner has been determined.


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 09, 2010, 09:00:11 AM
God forbid someone makes a mistake, never mind the fact that I had 20 things pulling me in different directions. Shame on me for logging in, finding hlbly and say lets get this done.  Both of us said 3k, and 23/24, its unlikely that something like that changed the outcome. I have better things to do than to be given crap over something as minor as this. Yes, in a rush I forgot the rules, which I have read a few times. Heck, I dueled hlbly without even flying anything, no practice, no test flights, since the previous day. Never mind the fact that once I did settle in I realized my mistake and owned up to it.

Had I just said, "Hey I made the next round." instead of wanting a good fight none of this would even be a freaking issue.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 09, 2010, 09:00:47 AM
yes i know tc and will follow then i just have to question ba if he dueled much before making these rules or consulted anyone  (such as yourself) prior to. i dont remember him being a regular in the da granted its been a couple years.

No.  I'm not a DA "regular" although I do wander in from time to time.  I have however been playing since 1996 and have dueled a lot over that time.  I harken back to the days of AW when you could have a private duel in the MA and I miss the ability to take off from the same field as your opponent going in opposite directions and turn to merge at icon range.

The canyons were selected for a few reasons:

1.  It's an area in the DA that's easy to find.
2.  There are more canyon fields than any other area of the DA so if it's crowded there will always be a set of fields open.
3.  It adds another element to the "any given Sunday" effect, just as randomly selected player match-ups and randomly selected planes do.
4.  There's nothing stopping a superior duelist from dragging the fight out over the flat terrain on either side of the canyon.

A 10K merge was selected as a reasonable merge alt that any plane could get to by the time of the merge without wasting too much of that 25% fuel load.  It could have been higher or lower but 10K allows some time for the fight to be fought downhill and for additional tactical options (example: in the last tourney Tec took an elevator off my plane.  I dove for a G limited turn to try to equalize my disadvantage) that couldn't be employed at a deck start.

I hope that answers your questions.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 09, 2010, 09:02:55 AM
The altitude and canyon rules are in place to induce some element of control in each duel and are VITAL to the criteria of this bracket system. Just like any scientific experiment you have to have constant controls to level the playing field. I am a regular dueler and favour a deck merge normaly, but this is a special event and thus has a set of rules that all must abide by. We never had any trouble about this in the previous two brackets. Thats just my opinion, not trying to argue with anyone.
 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 09, 2010, 09:04:02 AM
Is it still first round?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BnZs on February 09, 2010, 09:04:48 AM
I am a regular dueler and favour a deck merge normaly,
 :salute

That's because the shrubberies are working for you...oh yeah, I'm on to you.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 09, 2010, 09:06:55 AM
 :rofl

we want.....another shrubbery!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on February 09, 2010, 09:07:45 AM

C202-Twizzty


I want my rematch Twizzty!

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 09, 2010, 09:09:15 AM
If anything I hate the deck merge, my flying style gets better the higher I go, especially in the P series planes....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 09, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
Yes as far as I know it is still the first rd.  I believe baldEgle said that he would post sometime this morning at the latest and 2nd rd. duels.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 09, 2010, 09:14:25 AM
Second round started Sun-Mon at some point, several people have already fought their second round opponents.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 09, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
I have to agree with TW9 and Batfink at the same time....The place they fight at shouldnt effect the outcome of the fight....IMO...but this is a special event with rules...the situation at hand IMO cant use the rules in it since the 48 hour extension was technically not stated as a rule before.


Strip your fights were all pretty much on the deck anyway......You won the 2 of 3 fights fair and sqaure IMO. Now the tournament is at a stand still, Im not sure if H1bly will want to make up these fights due to his new rudder pedals which are a pain to learn, you can review many peoples replys to rudder pedals threads for proof. Until h1bly comes in here and says"lets do it tomorrow" or something like that I think Strip deserves the win because he was at least active.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Twizzty on February 09, 2010, 09:32:48 AM
I want my rematch Twizzty!

 :salute

Your welcome to it anytime Way sir!  :t

I'll look you up tonight as I'm really enjoying my time in the DA lately.

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 09, 2010, 09:49:09 AM
Who needs a reminder?  :D

STFU and let the guy organizing this, run it the way he wants (until you pay him to do so).

 :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 09, 2010, 09:50:27 AM


the Review Committee is making a decision right now...... please be patient
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 09, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Watch it ladies... my purse is armed with a Mk108...  Dont make me swing it. :noid
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 09, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
In the matter of Strip vs. hlbly (Law & Order... or... Judge Judy) the review committe has weighed in.

The films posted by Strip were determined to be "within the spirit of the tournament" (i.e. guns cold, co-alt merge, etc.) and that Stip won those duels as evidenced on film.  The committee by a vote of 2-1 has determined that these duels should stand.  The dissenting vote was for a random draw (which had already been done prior to the bracket update with Strip winning anyway).

Further to this, the committee has weighed in on these duel's violations of the official tournamant rules and has determined that any future violation of the rules as stated should constitute grounds for expulsion from the tournament.  I want to make this very clear to everyone that we simply cannot allow every player to make thier own rules or the tournament will deteriorate into chaos.  This decision was unanimous.

In the matter of Strip vs. SWneo the committee has determined by unanimous decision that these duels should be re-fought as Strip "jumped the gun" in fighting them.  The opening aircraft in this duel series will be the Bf 109F-4.

I personally think these are decisions everyone can live with and want to thank the review committee members for their quick responses and lively behind the scenes debate.  This was the biggest issue the committee has had to tackle in three tournaments.  Now I've got to go clear out my PM's.   :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DrBone1 on February 09, 2010, 10:15:47 AM
Mossie-Twizzty
P51D-Bosco
C202-Twizzty

Excellent fights Twizz, some of the best fight's I've had in a wile.

<S>!
wow Twizzty i would love to go a few rounds with ya   :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Twizzty on February 09, 2010, 10:24:54 AM
wow Twizzty i would love to go a few rounds with ya   :)

We can definitely do that DrBone! Look me up tonight or later on this week, I'll be on after 8pm est.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: infowars on February 09, 2010, 11:56:49 AM
Great I am gonna try to leave early from work to pratice...  lol

<S> Strip...  I look forward to another opportunity.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 09, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
I wont be able to plan anything tonight and likely the rest of the week until Saturday morning or Sunday.

If I do log in it will be a random unplanned deal, I will look you up if so....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 12:22:26 PM
funny how someone could quote me w/o reading what i said notably "nothing to take personally" and "suggestion" . anyways thanks be and bat for the clarification..
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 09, 2010, 12:34:09 PM
the situation at hand IMO cant use the rules in it since the 48 hour extension was technically not stated as a rule before.

A 48 hour extension is a discretionary call by me to allow players to complete a duel series if conditions exist that cause them to miss a deadline and if they are making an attempt in good faith to get the duels in.  It will never be in the official rules.  If it was then we might as well just push all the deadlines back 48 hours, get rid of that discretionary call and go strictly by the rules regarding random selection as to advancement.

Regardless, an extension isn't a reason to disregard all of the other rules in place.

I've been very careful in these tournaments to maintain an environment where the players can't manipulate the brackets or the rules to their own ends and will continue to be vigilent in this regard.  I won't play favorites and I intend to keep the playing field level and fair for everyone.  I will however work with players to accomodate special circumstances as long as the tournament keeps flowing along smoothly and within the guidlines of the rules.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: --)SF---- on February 09, 2010, 01:58:42 PM
DadRabit and I are scheduled to fight at high noon on sunday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DrBone1 on February 09, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
We can definitely do that DrBone! Look me up tonight or later on this week, I'll be on after 8pm est.
will do bud looking forward to it  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 09, 2010, 06:29:29 PM
PM me when your ready ivancrazy, Im on mostly every night. EST
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 09, 2010, 07:51:36 PM
TW9 my BBs name is doalot. Don't know about you but, I'm going to need a little practice before our duel. Just wanted to be sure you have my BBs name.        Doolitle(doalot)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: v1st on February 09, 2010, 08:11:51 PM
Akelfy whoop me preety good
spit 16 akelfy
c205 akelfy

I'm sorry I logged quick elfy my computer locked up.  I had to reboot just to sign on here.  I hope you can show me some moves before the next bracket.
v1st
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 09, 2010, 08:44:16 PM
Just a heads up to whom I will be paired with this next duel.  I have to work 12hrs a day for the next 7 days so between 7p.m. and 9p.m. cst is the only time I will be available I hope you can accommodate.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on February 09, 2010, 09:11:14 PM
Quote
GFs v1st :salute :cheers: I got lucky in the 205 :old:   elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 09, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
TW9 my BBs name is doalot. Don't know about you but, I'm going to need a little practice before our duel. Just wanted to be sure you have my BBs name.        Doolitle(doalot)

oh ok well i pm'd Doolitle  :headscratch: anyways what i said is any weekday after 8pm est is fine with me but the weekend is also fine. Just need to know ahead of time if it'll be the weekend so i don't make other plans. Pick a time and I'll be there..  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stealth on February 09, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
1st round 110-G2 Hopper
2nd round spitIX(9) Hopper
   
     STEALTH and Hopper :D GF :joystick:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on February 10, 2010, 01:40:25 AM
While WMSol and cactus should be determined by random draw, since cactus posted this morning that they had both been attempting to arrange their duel I am granting them a 48 hour extension to complete this duel.  If no results are posted within that deadline then the winner will be determined by random draw.

We had planned to finish it Tuesday night but Sol's feeling pretty lousy. He told me via PM, that he wanted to forfeit the round.

I know Sol hasn't posted here yet, and you'd probably like to hear it from him. Of course, it is your decision who advances as we are already two days past the deadline and the show must go on.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 10, 2010, 01:52:19 AM
oh ok well i pm'd Doolitle  :headscratch: anyways what i said is any weekday after 8pm est is fine with me but the weekend is also fine. Just need to know ahead of time if it'll be the weekend so i don't make other plans. Pick a time and I'll be there..  :salute

doolitle isnt on the BBS too much but hes online most nights after 11pm est.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 10, 2010, 04:36:46 AM
doolitle isnt on the BBS too much but hes online most nights after 11pm est.

I was replying to his post but thanks.  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 10, 2010, 07:58:49 AM
Extension periods are over.  Still two duels that were'nt foght but the show mst go on.

Based on this comment:

Catching up on my reading here Batfink sound definitely move on as I was the one who couldn't make the fights!

Bearkats forfeits and batfink advances.  The next match-up is:

batfinkv
P-38L  
Tongs


We had planned to finish it Tuesday night but Sol's feeling pretty lousy. He told me via PM, that he wanted to forfeit the round.

I know Sol hasn't posted here yet, and you'd probably like to hear it from him. Of course, it is your decision who advances as we are already two days past the deadline and the show must go on.

As you suspected I can't accept one player forfeiting on bahalf of another, particularily when it's their opponent.

By random draw WMSol advances.  If he comes here and officially forfeits or if you can PM me the quote where he officially forfeits then we can substitute you into this match-up.  The plane will not change.

The next match-up is:

WMSol
P-51D  
Grue


These duels must be completed with results posted by midnight Sunday.

This concludes our regularily scheduled update.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: crazyivan on February 10, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
Cool , tonite or Friday, Hey whats the first plane  22jolly? :rock

cough ingame CRAZYiVN end cough
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 10, 2010, 01:43:34 PM
hahahaha............ that's all I have to say about that first round aircraft.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 10, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
I got WMSol's official forfeit so now it's:

cactus
P-51D  
Grue


To be completed by midnight Sunday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 10, 2010, 02:46:35 PM
Is it 2nd round yet? no? maybe?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 10, 2010, 02:50:06 PM
Is it 2nd round yet? no? maybe?

It's been second round since Monday.  The bracket update is about 6-7 pages back (page 12 to be exact).
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 10, 2010, 03:56:51 PM
hahahaha............ that's all I have to say about that first round aircraft.


we could always do what mensa and I did last bracket in our first round.....fight with rockets loaded   :D



Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 10, 2010, 04:21:22 PM

we could always do what mensa and I did last bracket in our first round.....fight with rockets loaded   :D


I dont think stories from previous brackets would be a good idea.

All of the results may be invalidated.   :bolt: :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 10, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
JB11 and I have a tentative duel arranged for Friday.  Time to knock off the champ!!! 





Or be turned into a ball of wreckage on the canyon floor....

 :rock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Reaper90 on February 10, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Reaper90 vs Tony "laserbeans" Joey

Round 1 P39D  TonyJoey
Round 2 Hurri IIc  TonyJoey

<S> Sir, I was just happy to have survived as long as I did in each fight, especially the 39D.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 10, 2010, 06:59:14 PM
Round 1 P38J - SunsFan
Round 2 Spit8 - SunsFan

Great fights  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: A8Hunter on February 10, 2010, 07:46:09 PM
P38J - Sunsfan   Winner by a narrow margin of huge proportions
Spit VIII - Sunsfan  Slightly faster winner by even bigger proportions

So, where is the beginners bracket again............


GF there Sunsfan! Had a blast  :salute :salute

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dhart on February 10, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
Results for Lepape2 and Doomsday:

A6M2- Lepape2   I dont read Japanese  :huh
Spit 16- Lepape2   Must have been bad gas in the plane  :lol

Just for fun 3rd fight:
Spit 16- Doomsday   The stars aligned for just a moment  :x

Good luck to Lepape2  :salute....................... .............but I will be back next time!  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Motherland on February 10, 2010, 08:47:51 PM
F4U-1A IrishOne
C.202 Irishone

Fun fights! <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Reaper90 on February 10, 2010, 09:17:50 PM
Reaper90 vs Tony "laserbeans" Joey

Round 1 P39D  TonyJoey
Round 2 Hurri IIc  TonyJoey

<S> Sir, I was just happy to have survived as long as I did in each fight, especially the 39D.

Oh LOL, I meant "laser beams" !!  :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: IrishOne on February 10, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
F4U-1A IrishOne
C.202 Irishone

Fun fights! <S>

<S> Bubi, good stuff :)    that C202 fight was awesome!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 10, 2010, 10:22:11 PM
<S> Bubi, good stuff :)    that C202 fight was awesome!

i hate the C202 cant fly it if my life depended on it and it happen to be my default pick against SkyRock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 10, 2010, 10:44:50 PM
Round 1 - FM2 - Betty
Round 2 - I-16 - RufLeak
Round 3 - Spit 9 - Betty

 :salute Betty.  Great fights.  Good luck in the tournament.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 10, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Round 1 - FM2 - Betty
Round 2 - I-16 - RufLeak
Round 3 - Spit 9 - Betty

 :salute Betty.  Great fights.  Good luck in the tournament.

awsome fights rufleak! <<S>> ty!

sorry for messin with ur mind when i picked the spit9 instead of my tiff ;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Dadano on February 10, 2010, 11:05:38 PM
You got beat by a girl dood.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 10, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
Bettys a girl?

I thought betty was the dude in prison that...nevermind
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 10, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
hey now! :)


im just one of the guys dano!!!! i earned my kills and rufleak put up a great fight!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Dadano on February 11, 2010, 01:59:33 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 11, 2010, 02:27:48 AM
hey now! :)


im just one of the guys dano!!!! i earned my kills and rufleak put up a great fight!

i was actually suprised to see you win that match up betty wtg
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 11, 2010, 02:32:37 AM
betty is a killer, as much as any of the males  ;)

I've felt the wrath of her typhoon many times  :cry
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 11, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
i was actually suprised to see you win that match up betty wtg
I thought I got lucky with the FM2 draw.  It is about as un-typhie as there is.

Then she picks the Spit 9.  I was already checking my convergence on the typhoon.

Underestimate Betty at your own risk.  She seems nice, but she is a killer.

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: -Draken- on February 11, 2010, 10:53:24 AM
C.205 - Drkn
Bf 109F - Drkn

Great fights JOACH1M! <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on February 11, 2010, 11:51:50 AM
I thought I got lucky with the FM2 draw.  It is about as un-typhie as there is.

Then she picks the Spit 9.  I was already checking my convergence on the typhoon.

Underestimate Betty at your own risk.  She seems nice, but she is a killer.

 :salute
Rufleak!! I told you to whisper in her ear while passing on the merge.  It sends her into a wicked tailspin that is a sight to see!!   :joystick:   :devil

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 11, 2010, 12:04:17 PM
I thought I got lucky with the FM2 draw.  It is about as un-typhie as there is.

Then she picks the Spit 9.  I was already checking my convergence on the typhoon.

Underestimate Betty at your own risk.  She seems nice, but she is a killer.

 :salute


rufleak lol, i figured u thought i would pick the tiff thats why i changed it up a little bit *evil grin* i like to keep them guessing hehe
btw, i am nice! but i can kill the boyz in a nice way  :devil


i was actually suprised to see you win that match up betty wtg

not sure why that is kilz, im proud of my virtual pixel pilot skillz! rufleak was a great fight and the fm2 is NOT a plane i fly. i have flown it few times in KOTH or FSO but to fly it in the MA is something i dont do at all. its a rather easy plane to fly compared to my typhoon. in things like this tournament i tend to be a little competitive. just like in KOTH. i really would like to see how far in the rounds i can make it. there are many great sticks in the list and only a couple that i would be nervous about fighting but all i can do is put up the best fight to my abilities :)


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 11, 2010, 12:58:40 PM
Redd and I have been in contact.  We should be able to hook up in the next couple days.

Time difference is significant (Eastern US / Oz) so Sunday evening US may be the most convenient option.

FYI for BE.


(EDIT:  Would also like to go on record as suggesting we consider the removal of the Bf-110 and Mossie (sorry Bat) as random or selectable aircraft for the next ladder.)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 11, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
Redd and I have been in contact.  We should be able to hook up in the next couple days.

Time difference is significant (Eastern US / Oz) so Sunday evening US may be the most convenient option.

FYI for BE.


(EDIT:  Would also like to go on record as suggesting we consider the removal of the Bf-110 and Mossie (sorry Bat) as random or selectable aircraft for the next ladder.)


The 110 was my first draw in the first turney, Plane has NO place in the turney period!!!!!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 11, 2010, 01:45:49 PM
Wtg Betty

Betty owns top position, she knows what I mean  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on February 11, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
JB11 and I have a tentative duel arranged for Friday.  Time to knock off the champ!!! 





Or be turned into a ball of wreckage on the canyon floor....

 :rock
Crew Chief has given the new rig a "READY FOR FLIGHT"!!!   :airplane:

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 11, 2010, 03:39:27 PM



(EDIT:  Would also like to go on record as suggesting we consider the removal of the Bf-110 and Mossie (sorry Bat) as random or selectable aircraft for the next ladder.)


Not at all sir! I actualy tend to agree with your thinking, the large size of the plane coupled with the extreme firepower makes for often very quick and skilless outcomes. However it is always an option for the contestants to agree to dump the cannons in the mossie. Still, it wouldnt hurt not to have heavy attack aircraft in the bracket at all.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 11, 2010, 03:54:12 PM
I also vote for the removal of the P-38.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Flench on February 11, 2010, 04:01:21 PM
I also vote for the removal of the P-38.
WHAT !!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 11, 2010, 04:01:57 PM
hehehe unless loaded with rockets eh mensa?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 11, 2010, 04:14:07 PM
However it is always an option for the contestants to agree to dump the cannons in the mossie.
It is up to the individual player to choose a gun package.  There is no requirement to agree between contestants.  Is this a correct reading of the tournament rules?
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 11, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
It is up to the individual player to choose a gun package.  There is no requirement to agree between contestants.  Is this a correct reading of the tournament rules?

Yep, that's correct.

The thing with dropping the 110G and the Mossie is where do you draw the line?  Big planes (110C, P-38's)?  Big guns (anything over 20mm, quad Hispanos)?  Ground attack specialists (Hurri IID, 190F-8)?

Dropping anything labeled bomber is easy and the odds of acually being assigned one of those two planes is only 1:30.5.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 11, 2010, 06:01:31 PM
Personally I think you need to add the F-20 and the FBD :aok :airplane:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Soulyss on February 11, 2010, 06:06:19 PM
I think people should be allowed to bring a second to the duel and fight it out in B5N's. :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 11, 2010, 06:06:47 PM
Personally I think you need to add the F-20 and the FBD :aok :airplane:
:lol i was thinking yesterday if you would want to pick one of them if i was to win the 1st fight against you.  :old:
I think people should be allowed to bring a second to the duel and fight it out in B5N's. :D
  :rofl or 234s
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Masherbrum on February 11, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
I also vote for the removal of the P-38.

The B-38?    :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 11, 2010, 06:30:39 PM
The thing with dropping the 110G and the Mossie is where do you draw the line? 

Of course its subjective - but the way I figure, no one uses the 110 as an ATA fighter and very few use the Mossie for that role.

I cant really think of any other eligible aircraft I would not consider a "fighter."

Personal opinion and suggestion, only.

Maybe an easy cutoff (if it were even a popular idea in the first place) would be single-seat AC, only.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 11, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
The thing with dropping the 110G and the Mossie is where do you draw the line?  Big planes (110C, P-38's)?  Big guns (anything over 20mm, quad Hispanos)?  Ground attack specialists (Hurri IID, 190F-8)?

Dropping anything labeled bomber is easy and the odds of acually being assigned one of those two planes is only 1:30.5.

Yeah i was thinking that same thought as i typed before. Should we also exclude the F4u-c and the tempest? waht about the hurricane and the nik2? So maybe it's best just to leave it be!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 11, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
Ki61- Rud3boi
109G14- rud3boi

Good fights, good luck the rest of the tourny.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 11, 2010, 09:17:43 PM
C.205 - Drkn
Bf 109F - Drkn

Great fights JOACH1M! <S>

This is a contested win.  The loser needs to post results to confirm the loss, otherwise films must be posted and reviewed by the review committee to confirm the win.

I'm going to PM both of you on this.  If JOACH1M hasn't posted to confirm his loss by midnight Friday I'll need you to post the films and the review committee to review them by midnight Sunday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 11, 2010, 09:21:28 PM
BE did you get my PM



Also SkyRock check your PMs bro
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 11, 2010, 09:23:40 PM
BE did you get my PM

Yes
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 12, 2010, 02:26:05 AM
Hey TW9 I sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 12, 2010, 04:16:51 AM
Hey TW9 I sent you a pm.

Recieved. Tonight pre or post fso it is  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 12, 2010, 07:28:40 AM
IMPOTANT NOTE

If you're trying to arrange a duel and haven't been able to contact your opponent today is the last day to post to avoid a random draw per the rules should the duel not happen.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Flench on February 12, 2010, 07:30:00 AM
Why not just do the contested in the same bird ? Pick the best fighter in the game and run it through the hole contest ?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 AM
Why not just do the contested in the same bird ? Pick the best fighter in the game and run it through the hole contest ?
Thats because all these GBs around here would complain when we fly K4s instead of their beloved spits of course :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 12, 2010, 07:42:26 AM

The 110 was my first draw in the first turney, Plane has NO place in the turney period!!!!!!
Ink, if the 110 isnt allowed in the tourny....then only planes labeled as "Fighter" should be used. I can see people using ammo dumping to their advantage in these 1v1s but maybe instead of making it so we can use the heavy gun pack birds, BE can make a rule no ammo dumping and always used the light gun package.....Films must be posted with fights so they can be checked.....then the review committee would actually be a hard job, I feel like an old man watching these films :old:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 12, 2010, 07:58:17 AM
Ink, if the 110 isnt allowed in the tourny....then only planes labeled as "Fighter" should be used. I can see people using ammo dumping to their advantage in these 1v1s but maybe instead of making it so we can use the heavy gun pack birds, BE can make a rule no ammo dumping and always used the light gun package.....Films must be posted with fights so they can be checked.....then the review committee would actually be a hard job, I feel like an old man watching these films :old:


I have been waiting for "Mr. Nice SPY" to drop a post, telling us all to let BE do  it the way he wants to  :rofl

where you hiding?  "Mr. Nice SPY"
 :noid


I am all for leaving the rules just as they are.......... heck, it has worked for 2 complete torunaments, and is working ok for this 3rd event so far..........

just saying  :old:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 12, 2010, 08:19:43 AM

I have been waiting for "Mr. Nice SPY" to drop a post, telling us all to let BE do  it the way he wants to  :rofl

where you hiding?  "Mr. Nice SPY"
 :noid


I am all for leaving the rules just as they are.......... heck, it has worked for 2 complete torunaments, and is working ok for this 3rd event so far..........

just saying  :old:


Sorry, I am trying to avoid micromamanaging  :lol

REMINDER:  Keep mouth shut and let BE run it the way he wants.  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 12, 2010, 10:38:13 AM
Tournament appears to be going really good.  My first fight was really great and my 2nd fight is tonight.  I would say that nothing is perfect and tweeking is part of anything that has to be organized but that should be left up to the committee and BE

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 12, 2010, 10:48:58 AM
BE can make a rule no ammo dumping and always used the light gun package.....Films must be posted with fights so they can be checked.....then the review committee would actually be a hard job

Each committee member would have had to review 72 films last week and 96 films this week.  They would have to watch the first 3 minutes or so until the merge from both planes for a total of six minutes or almost 10 hours of film review to enforce this for this week.  With results being posted until midnight Sunday and the bracket being updated Monday morning they could concievably have to pull an overnighter Sunday night and then I'd have to verify that all films had been reviewed.

Not very practical IMO.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Pawz on February 12, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
Is it to late for me to join?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 12, 2010, 11:49:31 AM
Dhyran and I are set to duel today at 3:00pm EST (9:00pm CET?)... Getting antsy.  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 12, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
SkyRock and i had a duel set for last Wen. i showed up 30 minutes early and waited for 1 hour and 20 minutes. i have PM SkyRock and still no answer.

now this does not say SkyRock is avoiding me, i just hope everything is ok. he seemed like he was looking foward to the fight.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 12, 2010, 01:56:53 PM
BE:  Redd and I are scheduled for 8PM Eastern US on Sunday evening.

-----------------

PS:  "Dumping ammo" is fairly common and, personally, I don't see it as a problem since it reduces effectiveness in one area for an improvement in another.  In effect, the player is reducing his gross lethality (negative impact) for a reduction in weight (positive impact).  

It's a player-controlled "trade" in my mind and has no truly adverse impact.

Besides - the savings in weight gained will hardly be deciding factor in any fight.  It's more a psychological advantage than anything else.  You could "dump" weight by flying to the merge on full WEP instead of 100% Mil, as well.  That's nothing more than a trade off between WEP time (negative impact) and weight (positive impact).

Variables make the duels interesting.   :aok


SkyRock and i had a duel set for last Wen. i showed up 30 minutes early and waited for 1 hour and 20 minutes. i have PM SkyRock and still no answer.

now this does not say SkyRock is avoiding me, i just hope everything is ok. he seemed like he was looking foward to the fight.

I will give him a call.  If he missed the time, he had a good reason.  Apologies on his behalf.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dhyran on February 12, 2010, 02:21:10 PM
Dhyran and I are set to duel today at 3:00pm EST (9:00pm CET?)... Getting antsy.  :D

P51b - cursed - good fight, at least i crashed into a canyon wall  :cool:
seafire - dhyran - turning game, i picked cursed fuel so he crashed later with fuel out
F6F5 - cursed - cursed maked the better opening move, we endend up down the canyon, he shot my tail off

Good fights  :salute

and good Luck with the next round cursed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 12, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
I think dumping ammo on the sly is a bit cheap, should be agreed on by both contestants or at the very least, announced by the dumpee. It would make a huge difference in some planes with heavy gun packages. There is no reduction in lethality in something like an F4u or P47, jusst a reduction in weight. But then if everyone is going to do it, it has to be done. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 12, 2010, 02:25:43 PM
P51b - cursed - good fight, at least i crashed into a canyon wall  :cool:
seafire - dhyran - turning game, i picked cursed fuel so he crashed later with fuel out
F6F5 - cursed - cursed maked the better opening move, we endend up down the canyon, he shot my tail off

Good fights  :salute

and good Luck with the next round cursed

Dhyran,

Was great meeting you - the duels were excellent! Seafire duel sticks out in my mind. :aok

Hope to do this with you again in the future, Sir.

Cursed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 12, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
They would have to watch the first 3 minutes or so until the merge from both planes for a total of six minutes or almost 10 hours of film review to enforce this for this week. 
I have been turning on the recorder at visual (dot) range.  Should I have been recording from launch?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 12, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
still havent seen ivancrazy on anywhere.....You still out there ivan???
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 12, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
I think dumping ammo on the sly is a bit cheap, should be agreed on by both contestants or at the very least, announced by the dumpee. It would make a huge difference in some planes with heavy gun packages. There is no reduction in lethality in something like an F4u or P47, jusst a reduction in weight. But then if everyone is going to do it, it has to be done. Just my opinion.

You really think it gives any advantage?  It's like a runner shaving his legs before a big race to get an edge.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 12, 2010, 04:56:33 PM
You really think it gives any advantage?  It's like a runner shaving his legs before a big race to get an edge.

<--- shaving my legs right now.  I need any advantage I can get.  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 12, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
You really think it gives any advantage?  It's like a runner shaving his legs before a big race to get an edge.


Most definitely in some planes. The P47 for example, just take one up and dump all the ammo whilst looking at the E6b and watch the pounds drop off. No, it's not going to make you out turn a zero, but in same plane co-alt duels it will make a difference.

Lets look at it from another angle, if it makes no difference at all then why is anyone doing it?



edit:

just did a test on the P47-D40 with 25% fuel and full gun loadout.

Fully loaded with ammo weight - 13282
Empty of ammo weight - 12228
Loaded with 200 rounds for one kill - 12290

so a difference of  ~1000lbs is going to make a difference. That's like one person fighting with a 1k bomb strapped on while the other is clean.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 12, 2010, 06:09:03 PM
I have been turning on the recorder at visual (dot) range.  Should I have been recording from launch?

Nope.  No need.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ink on February 12, 2010, 06:14:44 PM


I still think the 110 and mossie should not be in it....and they should be held where ever the duelers feel the most comfortable. (kept to the DA of course)

also I so think the "typical" way of dueling IE; fly past each other wing tip to wing tip is not really a great way to duel, at that point it is just a matter of who can bank around faster, who ever came into it slower will bank around faster, lame does not show skill in my mind.

The Merge is where you win or lose a fight (for the most part) if you were to fly in the mains the way these duels are being played out you would be HOd over and over, To me I attempt to merge with the person, in a way that allows me to kill him but denies him a shot on me, in other words, giving myself a gun solution but denying him one, in this way you will learn to kill as fast as possible, because we all know the next nme cons will be on you very quickly, so if you can learn to merge and kill at first "contact" you wont have to worry about the first guy in, cuzz he is already dead, leaving you prepared for the next one and so on....and so on...

mind you aiming is huge, the most important part of this or any type of "aerial combat" is Aim, this sad to say I am very lacking. there are days though that I am spot on, and have killed 8 plus trying to kill me, using the merge technique I tried to explain

 plus I think the duels should be more then two out of three, should be more like 4 out of 7, or 6 out of 10.
plane should be choice, not same.
say its mine and Grizz's duel, I was randomly picked to choose first plane, I pick the hurri2c then Grizz could pick his plane of choice, who ever WINS picks his plane first, and then they duel at a pre-agreed to ALT.
 I have been thinking about this a lot I was not gonna say anything but what the hell, I am dedicated to this turney and would love to see it as a permanent, integral part of AH.
 this would allow people to fly the plane THEY feel comfortable in.

I don't know just some thoughts.

flame away :D



INK
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 12, 2010, 06:29:15 PM
DB I'm stuck on a conference call, will stop in as soon as I can...should be available just about all of tomorrow afternoon evening/Sunday if we cant hook up tonight. Sorry bout that....
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: -Draken- on February 12, 2010, 07:06:30 PM
Film of our duels for review if need be.
I'll admit I messed up on both duels, need to pay more attention to thealtimeter instead of chatting it up heh :)

http://members.shaw.ca/draken/firstduel.ahf (http://members.shaw.ca/draken/firstduel.ahf)
http://members.shaw.ca/draken/duel2.ahf (http://members.shaw.ca/draken/duel2.ahf)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Phanza on February 12, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Phanta vs. TnDep results:

i-16 : Phanta
F4u-4 : TnDep
Spit9 : TnDep
Winner : TnDep
Good fights! <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 12, 2010, 08:01:25 PM
still havent seen ivancrazy on anywhere.....You still out there ivan???

he is normaly on late nights in the late war arenas



I will give him a call.  If he missed the time, he had a good reason.  Apologies on his behalf.

i know Mark never did mind handing my arse
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 12, 2010, 09:09:22 PM
Dodger & TC

Round # 1 - Bf109G14  - Dodger
Round # 2 - P40E        - TC
Round # 3 - La7          - Dodger

most excellent fun fights Dodger, holler at me if ya need a sparring partner to get ready for your next match

Good Luck  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 12, 2010, 09:26:27 PM
DB, I may try and get on one or two evenings but it's tough to predict work related calls. How about about shooting for Friday evening sometime in the 7pm or later (CST) bracket? If not let me know what works for you and I'll try and accommodate.
I waited 3 hours. From 6:30 to 9:30 Snap wasn't online.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jododger on February 12, 2010, 09:32:16 PM
<S> TC was a blast, next round I'm just hoping for the k4 :lol

BE we did get interrupted  in one of our fights(no issue), just in case it matters later.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 12, 2010, 09:49:27 PM
<S> TC was a blast, next round I'm just hoping for the k4 :lol

BE we did get interrupted  in one of our fights(no issue), just in case it matters later.

please don't tell him a Review Committee member ( ALT ) forgot the rules and thought he had a ceiling cap of 10K for the entire event......... <shakes head bows head in shame>

seriously though, Dodger is going to be a force to be reckon with.... <thumbs up> he is like 15 times more cagier than when I practiced with him back in that very 1st tourny BE held ( think it was that one )....... you others better practice TOO.....
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 12, 2010, 10:18:25 PM
bf110c-4b TW9 donut handed to me 
typhoon    TW9 donut handed to me yet again



                           SALUTE TW9 and thanks for the fights sir. Welcome back.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: doalot on February 12, 2010, 10:25:20 PM
Oh the third one was the ugliest.  typhoon TW9                  nice merge TW9
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 13, 2010, 04:40:41 AM

...

also I so think the "typical" way of dueling IE; fly past each other wing tip to wing tip is not really a great way to duel, at that point it is just a matter of who can bank around faster, who ever came into it slower will bank around faster, lame does not show skill in my mind.

...
I don't know just some thoughts.

flame away :D



INK

There's nothing saying you have to go wingtip to wingtip, the rules state that once you're at icon range you can begin your merge break.  if you don't want to go nose on with the guy, I don't believe you have to, could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 13, 2010, 06:38:16 AM
DB I'm stuck on a conference call, will stop in as soon as I can...should be available just about all of tomorrow afternoon evening/Sunday if we cant hook up tonight. Sorry bout that....
Sorry, I just seen this, this morning. I'll be on this afternoon and early evening.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 13, 2010, 07:50:46 AM
Phanta vs. TnDep results:

i-16 : Phanta
F4u-4 : TnDep
Spit9 : TnDep
Winner : TnDep
Good fights! <S>

<S> Great Fights Phanta
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 13, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
There's nothing saying you have to go wingtip to wingtip, the rules state that once you're at icon range you can begin your merge break.  if you don't want to go nose on with the guy, I don't believe you have to, could be wrong though.

Nope.  You're right.


A day and a half to go.  16 duels still to be completed.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 13, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
Myself and seraider have scheduled our duel for Sunday.  8 hour time difference for this one, hopefully it goes off on the agreed time.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 13, 2010, 11:48:10 AM
JB11 and I are also getting our duel in on Sunday.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 13, 2010, 02:09:28 PM
Jbecks and me were scheduled for 2PM EST/7PMGMT today.  Waited for an hour in the DA and sent PM. 

Hope everything's OK jbecks - maybe we can get it in some time before Monday.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mjsmoke on February 13, 2010, 02:25:42 PM
Mjsmoke vs. TexsTC

P40E - TexsTC
P51D - TexsTC
S&G P38L - TexsTC

<S> good fights sir!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 13, 2010, 02:27:42 PM
I just logged on as well MJSmoke, <S> to you sir, we ll have to do it again sometime.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 13, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
bf110c-4b TW9 donut handed to me 
typhoon    TW9 donut handed to me yet again



                           SALUTE TW9 and thanks for the fights sir. Welcome back.

<S> yes good fights though according to the rules as explained by BE it was rd1 me rd 2 u rd 3 me. Apparently it doesnt matter if both planes auger or die. It goes to whoever got kill message 1st  :huh..
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SEraider on February 13, 2010, 04:46:30 PM
Myself and seraider have scheduled our duel for Sunday.  8 hour time difference for this one, hopefully it goes off on the agreed time.



I'll be on 1 hour earlier if you want to knock it out sooner.  I'll leave it up to you.   :salute

I forgot it was valentines day............ :cry
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 13, 2010, 04:55:55 PM


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Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 13, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
You really think it gives any advantage?  It's like a runner shaving his legs before a big race to get an edge.
Huge advantage, instead of a JUG lets see what the wait would be in a Mossy.. you only need 50 hispanos for that kill shot at the most in a duel

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 13, 2010, 06:54:49 PM
Huge advantage, instead of a JUG lets see what the wait would be in a Mossy.. you only need 50 hispanos for that kill shot at the most in a duel

After batfink posted the weights, I'm in agreement it will give an advantage in the ammo dump planes.  I think it's negligible in most aircraft however.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 13, 2010, 07:22:01 PM
Mark check your PMs bro we have 1.5 days to get this done. and i have to work in 3 hours. tomorrow is valentines day and also the wife's and mine anniversary so i doubt she will let me get on if i do it will have to be before she wakes up PM me bro i check the forums all the time
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 13, 2010, 08:55:55 PM
Tongs V Batfinkv

P38L.....Batfinkv   
P51......Batfinkv

Nice fights...hope to run into you more often   :salute and  :cheers:


Sorry Bat,Redd,Krup,Fud,perv for my sudden exit from the DA...My PC decided to shut down...It seems to have a knack of knowing when I have to do real world things :noid
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dunnrite on February 13, 2010, 08:59:03 PM
LTARhamr V Slimmer

BF109F4--Slimmer
HurricaneIIC--Slimmer

<S> Slimmer was fun.  Good luck in the tourney!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 13, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
Good fun fights Tongs, thanks for the fun fights afterwards also.

Next time i want you to teach me a thing or two about that ki61 you beat me soundly in.

 :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 13, 2010, 09:11:15 PM
Huge advantage, instead of a JUG lets see what the wait would be in a Mossy.. you only need 50 hispanos for that kill shot at the most in a duel



just for giggles :)

Mossie 25% fuel and full ammo - 17,913 lbs
Mossie 25% fuel and all 303s gone - 17,711lbs
Mossie 25% fuel and enough 20mm for a kill - 17,291lbs

so not as much of a dif as the jug but still it's an advantage of just over 600lbs

as grizz says, it's not much in most planes but it is in some.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: slimmer on February 13, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
<S>LTARhamr it was fun
LTARhamr V Slimmer

BF109F4--Slimmer
HurricaneIIC--Slimmer

<S> Slimmer was fun.  Good luck in the tourney!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Ghastly on February 13, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
<S> Cactus

Cactus P51D
Cactus F4U1A

Fun fights, I enjoyed them!

Grue
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 13, 2010, 10:10:46 PM
Come on Snaphook, you want in this thing or not?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 13, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Just thought I'd chuck these up for you people to check if you like...First duel was the 38L...second P51b...and I thought I'd put up the third fight due to the fact that it was in the same plane but a different style of fight IMO.  Enjoy
Once again <S> BatfinkV.... It was cool to tussle

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1db776c673d88d1bab1eab3e9fa335ca91987580f164cdb1
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 13, 2010, 10:56:51 PM
S! Tongs, enjoyed it alot, escpecially the good fights afterwards.

Here are the first two from my viewpoint.

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/p38L_tongs.ahf

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/p51B_tongs.ahf


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on February 14, 2010, 12:18:09 AM
<S> Cactus

Cactus P51D
Cactus F4U1A

Fun fights, I enjoyed them!

Grue

Thanks Grue. Enjoyed the 152 fight afterward!

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 14, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
14 hours to go and 12 duels yet to be fought.  Let's get a move-on gentlemen.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 14, 2010, 11:06:11 AM
14 hours to go and 12 duels yet to be fought.  Let's get a move-on gentlemen.

don't seem to see ivancrazy anywhere
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 14, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
don't seem to see ivancrazy anywhere

krazivan was in the DA last night.


Sorry you guys last night that was dueling. My connection went to hell and back, then back to hell. Had lots of fun last night.

<S> Redd, those fights were long as hell lol.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: --)SF---- on February 14, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
la5  -  DadRabit
Ki61 - DadRabit

Had alot of fun, thanks for the great fights DadRabit!   :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DadRabit on February 14, 2010, 11:28:15 AM
S!

great fights SF!  was a blast!

S!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 14, 2010, 11:31:23 AM
Following is a PM sent in the matter of Drkn vs JOACH1M:

JOACH1M,

Since you lost your duels with Drkn but didn't post the results to confirm the loss, Drkn was asked to submit films to verify his win.  The Review Committee has identified rules violations on the part of Drkn, specifically breaking the pre-merge cieling in both duels.

We request that you submit your films for further review.  We need those films no later than midnight Monday.  If no rules violations are found in your films then Drkn's wins will be disqualified and you will advance provided your films are from take-off (even if they aren't please submit them).  If there are rules violations by both parties then the review committee will take appropriate action which could include a re-match, a random draw or ejection from the tournamnet of one or both participants.  If your films are not submitted by midnight Monday it will be assumed that they also contain rules violations and a decision will be made appropriately.

I am also posting this in the Bracket and Results thread.

All Committee members and alternate Committee members have been copied on this PM.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 14, 2010, 01:21:19 PM
krazivan was in the DA last night.


Sorry you guys last night that was dueling. My connection went to hell and back, then back to hell. Had lots of fun last night.

<S> Redd, those fights were long as hell lol.

Now that i know how to spell his name ill look for him today. Thank you!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 14, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
Jbecks had RL and couldn't make our duel, he PM'ed offering to forfeit.  I sent another PM to try and reschedule, never heard back.  Bit of a drag since the F4U was such a favorable draw for me.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 14, 2010, 04:17:50 PM
just for giggles :)

Mossie 25% fuel and full ammo - 17,913 lbs
Mossie 25% fuel and all 303s gone - 17,711lbs
Mossie 25% fuel and enough 20mm for a kill - 17,291lbs

so not as much of a dif as the jug but still it's an advantage of just over 600lbs

as grizz says, it's not much in most planes but it is in some.

Thx for proving me wrong, it is definitely an advantage in the jugs.  I think the best way to look at it is the ratios of weight being fired off, not necessarily the poundage.  In the case of the mossy, dumping ammo with 'enough to kill' gives only a 4.5% decrease in weight.  As for the jug, dumping ammo gives 7.5% decrease in weight.  As far as trying to establish some sort of a guideline for which gives 'noticeable advantage', I'd say >5% decrease in weight = noticeable advantage, <5% negligible advantage.  

As far as these types of rules in a tournament like this with nothing on the line?  Meh, no need for it.  If you get a jug as your dueling aircraft, dump ammo!  

P.S. I'm willing to bet the 110G might also gain a nice advantage also but since it is already a heavy 2 engined aircraft, the percentage difference in weights might be similar to that of the mossy, <5%.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 14, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
Me and SWneo have yet to fight, I am hoping to get our fights in tonight though.

I pm'ed him and let him know I would be popping in and out most of the night.

Hopefully our paths will cross...

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 14, 2010, 05:15:42 PM

with all this talk of ammo dumping.......
It all makes sense to me now....I never seem to be able to saddle up nicely on a con until I have nothing to hit him with......now I understand why  :lol :lol :lol :lol....If only I could whip out that .45
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 14, 2010, 05:17:54 PM
Kazaa I sent you a PM, did you receive it?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 14, 2010, 05:30:35 PM
Jbecks had RL and couldn't make our duel, he PM'ed offering to forfeit.  I sent another PM to try and reschedule, never heard back.  Bit of a drag since the F4U was such a favorable draw for me.

he's on the boards right now & he just posted in AvsA forum @ around 5:43 pm EST......

see if ya'll can make this happen..... these forfeits are gettting ridiculous.......

come on peoples
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 14, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
Now that i know how to spell his name ill look for him today. Thank you!

thats the wrong krazyivn this guy is in my squad and not in the turny at all. the one your looking for is CRAZYiVN wtih the Hells Angels
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: fudgums on February 14, 2010, 06:39:46 PM
thats the wrong krazyivn this guy is in my squad and not in the turny at all. the one your looking for is CRAZYiVN wtih the Hells Angels

doh  :o
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 14, 2010, 06:54:17 PM
pwnt!    :eek:

Niki - Redd
K4 - Redd

Great fights, bud.  You need to put on a 'Rolling Scissor-Avoidance Clinic'  ;)  <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 14, 2010, 07:08:21 PM
SWneo,

It was fun sir, sorry I had to jump in and out (again), life is pretty busy at the moment.

It should slow down this week though, if you want to jump in for some fun runs later on let me know.

<S>

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 14, 2010, 07:14:44 PM
pwnt!    :eek:

Niki - Redd
K4 - Redd

Great fights, bud.  You need to put on a 'Rolling Scissor-Avoidance Clinic'  ;)  <S>



Good fights Mazz  !   <S>   Whenever I rolling scissor with you 109k guys I get 30mm up the clacker  ;)



Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 14, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
I haven't heard anything from Snaphook. Don't look like our duel is going to happen   :frown:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 14, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
JOACH1M posted this in the 3rd  Tri-annual Bracket    sign Up  thread


C.205 - Drkn
Bf109F - Drkn

possible alt. voilations?

JOACH1M, why did you bump that thread ....it was on a few pages back

anyways........

The  Tournament Review Committee & BaldEagl need you to post your Duel films for your fights, see below quote:

Following is a PM sent in the matter of Drkn vs JOACH1M:

JOACH1M,

Since you lost your duels with Drkn but didn't post the results to confirm the loss, Drkn was asked to submit films to verify his win.  The Review Committee has identified rules violations on the part of Drkn, specifically breaking the pre-merge cieling in both duels.

We request that you submit your films for further review.  We need those films no later than midnight Monday.  If no rules violations are found in your films then Drkn's wins will be disqualified and you will advance provided your films are from take-off (even if they aren't please submit them).  If there are rules violations by both parties then the review committee will take appropriate action which could include a re-match, a random draw or ejection from the tournamnet of one or both participants.  If your films are not submitted by midnight Monday it will be assumed that they also contain rules violations and a decision will be made appropriately.

I am also posting this in the Bracket and Results thread.

All Committee members and alternate Committee members have been copied on this PM.

need to post your films here, or email them to BaldEagl for the Review Committee

Thank You
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: -Draken- on February 14, 2010, 09:24:31 PM
I'll just forfeit, save everone some time :) <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Masherbrum on February 14, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
The rules are simple, 99% of the folks abide by them.   It should be 100%.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 14, 2010, 10:54:33 PM
Hopping on for one more night to try and meet up with manurin, we have an 8 hour time difference so haven't been able to be on at the same time yet..
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 14, 2010, 11:48:53 PM
I was hoping SWneo would stop in and give the results, he hasn't but we did get our fight in.

109F4.....Strip
Yak9T.....Strip

Will post film soon if no word is heard....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: manurin on February 15, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
Was checking for longbow during the week end to no avail.

our time difference might be an issue.

last try today..
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 15, 2010, 12:38:19 AM
JB11/AAJagerX

Brew- JB11
P-38J- JB11

Great fights sir, that Brewster round was insane!

 :salute

AAJagerX
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 15, 2010, 02:03:34 AM
Was checking for longbow during the week end to no avail.

our time difference might be an issue.

last try today..


just saw him in the DA
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 15, 2010, 03:08:43 AM
SERaider said he was going to post but seeing as he hasn't  the duel did go down and results as follows;

C205     Bruv119
F4U1A   SERaider

decider  Spit 9  Bruv119

Fights were real close and the F4U round was a corker of rolling scissors.

http://www.4shared.com/file/222470172/a6959d18/seraider_1.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/222471219/dde73a2a/spit_9_raider.html

For some reason I have no film of the F4U round,  must have hit cancel by accident, (you get in a habit of doing that with auto film turned on  :(,)   I'm sure raider can confirm it though.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 15, 2010, 03:28:18 AM
Do the judges watch every single film to verify a win?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 15, 2010, 04:39:29 AM
Kazaa I sent you a PM, did you receive it?

Sorry for the late response.

I set plans after I gave you the whole week to set a time and date for the bout, asking me on the day just isn't going to cut it unless I'm online, which is very rare these days.

I'm free tonight, afternoonish your time. I know it's late warning so please let me know asap what time you can make it, if you can make it?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 15, 2010, 06:32:29 AM
i was in the DA last night for a while just screwin around with some squadies, and still couldn't get a hold of krazyivan..........What should i do? Do we both forfeit?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 07:12:44 AM
Do the judges watch every single film to verify a win?

No.  Only if it's disputed (which includes the winner posting the results).
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: crazyivan on February 15, 2010, 08:57:24 AM
Cool , tonite or Friday, Hey whats the first plane  22jolly? :rock

cough ingame CRAZYiVN end cough
Ahh, I knew I posted in here.  Gonna logg on tonite, if no ones home  then  I forfeit. Im pretty sure my name isn't spelled ivancrazy  on the top sheet. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: humble on February 15, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
I haven't heard anything from Snaphook. Don't look like our duel is going to happen   :frown:
All my fault, I'm buried with work stuff. Will try to get on tonight if we've got an extension otherwise is all my fault and uptown should advance...

Sorry about that DB was looking forward to it. I didn't sign up for the last one since I had trouble schedule wise with the 1st one. Will check back to see status but no issues at all if you can't make it. BE this was my fault entirely so should be viewed as a forfeit and not a random draw thing...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 15, 2010, 10:01:09 AM
TC and BE Joachim don't check the forums that much I've told him on the squad website, he normally checks it daily





JOACH1M posted this in the 3rd  Tri-annual Bracket    sign Up  thread


JOACH1M, why did you bump that thread ....it was on a few pages back

anyways........

The  Tournament Review Committee & BaldEagl need you to post your Duel films for your fights, see below quote:

need to post your films here, or email them to BaldEagl for the Review Committee

Thank You
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 15, 2010, 10:13:27 AM
BE i still have not heard anything from SkyRock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 15, 2010, 11:08:44 AM
Here are the films...

SWneo1 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/e36e0a61-70d0-4272-9002-0778e9d36c24/fight1swneo)

SWneo2 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/48bdb3ce-eb4b-4f70-9eb7-da6238a71f72/fight2-seneo)

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
Oh my this has been a busy week!  I'll get right to business.

After the last update Bearkats forfeit the first round and batfinkv advanced.
WMSol won a random draw but subsequently forfeit advancing cactus into the second round.

After hlbly didn't post the results of his loss to Strip it was discovered that the duels had taken place in the wrong area of the DA and at the wrong altitudes.  This led to a review committee determination that the films posted by Strip to confirm his wins were "within the spirit of the tournament" (i.e. guns cold, co-alt merge, etc.) and that Strip won those duels but that Strip had jumped the gun in fighting SWneo in the second round and that those duels needed to be re-fought.

More importantly the committee weighed in on the duel's violations of the official tournament rules and determined that any future violation of the rules as stated could constitute grounds for expulsion from the tournament.

Immediately afterward Drkn posted results of his wins and, since JOACH1M failed to post the results, films to verify them.

It was determined that Drkn had broken the alt ceiling in both duels and there was speculation that JOACH1M may have done the same.  A debate raged behind the scenes with some committee members strongly urging the ejection of both players from the tournament with others recommending a rematch or a random draw.  Without JOACHIM's films and not wanting to rely on speculation I went to the DA last night and tested the C.205 in the canyon area at 25% fuel.  On a standard climb-out and leveling at 10K I reached the mid-point between the fields within 1 mph of JOACHIM's speed as shown in Drkn's film.  While the committee hasn't weighed in again after my test I am going to make a decision on their behalf.  I don't believe JOACH1M broke the alt ceiling based on my test results therefore Drkn's wins are disqualified and JOACH1M advances.

This brings us to the following rules changes:

The rule:

- Both players will film all duels in case of a dispute.

Will immediately and for all future tournaments be changed to:

- Both players will film all duels from take-off in case of a dispute.  These films must be saved until at least midnight on the Tuesday following the duel or until 48 hours after the end of any extension in case of a dispute.  If a dispute arises then they must be saved until such dispute is settled.

In addition, the following rule:

- In the case of contested results both player’s films will be reviewed by the review committee and a determination will be posted no later than 48 hours after the initial posting deadline.  The review committee may overturn posted results.  If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made a winner will be selected by random draw.  The review committee's determination will be final.  Because this will delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own.  In any case, the next duels deadlines WILL NOT be delayed.

Will be immediately replaced for this and future tournaments by the following:

- Each player has the opportunity to review films of their duels for potential rules violations.  If a player suspects a rules violation they can petition the review committee via PM.  Both regular and alternate committee members, the tournament administrator and the opposing player must be copied on the petition (the review committee members and administrator are listed in the roster).  This petition must be filed by the regular deadlines.  The player must include a posting of their own films with the petition along with a description of what they believe the rules violation to be.  An initial determination will be made within 36 hours of the petition.  If the review committee finds sufficient evidence to further their investigation a committee spokesperson will contact the opposing player for their films of the duels.  These films must be submitted within 36 hours of the committee's request or the duel(s) in question will be forfeit by that player.  The review committee will then make a final determination no later than 36 hours after receiving those films.  The review committee may overturn posted results.  If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made the review committee will determine an appropriate course of action which could include a rematch, a random draw or the expulsion of one or both players from the tournament.  These are not intended to limit the actions that the review committee might recommend.  The review committee's determination will be final.  In any case a final determination will be posted by no later than noon Friday in a worst-case scenario.  If a final determination is not posted by midnight Wednesday the winner of the dispute and their next opponent will automatically be given a 48 hour extension of their next duels, which must then be completed no later that midnight Tuesday of the following week.  If a determination is made by midnight Wednesday the normal midnight Sunday deadline will be in effect.  Because this could delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own.  
- Any player caught breaking the rules twice in any tournament will be automatically ejected from the tournament.


Earlier this week I responded to this comment: "I have been turning on the recorder at visual (dot) range.  Should I have been recording from launch?" with "Nope.  No need".  Obviously this has now changed.

I also had a PM exchange this week with TW9 who had shot the wing off his opponent's plane making it unflyable but then collided making his own plane unflyable.  He stated that there was no definition of a win in the rules and, after a brief glance I agreed, however, after further review there is a definition in the rules and the following rules would have applied in his case:

- In the case of a collision:
   * If only one player collides (only one gets the collision message) the duel continues.
   * If both players collide (both get the collision message) the duel immediately ends and will be re-started in the same  
- Once one player has been shot down and the other receives a kill message the duel ends.  There is no need to land.

I bring this up because I told him that I'd add a definition to the rules but it's already there.

In accordance with the following rule:

- The losing player will post in this thread after the duel series in the following format:
  
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner
   Plane - Winner (if needed)

The loser posting is a means to verify that the results are uncontested.  If the loser hasn't posted by the deadline then the winner may post the results but they will be deemed contested.


Strip and Bruv119 have both posted results as winners and are, for now, both considered contested.  Both have posted films and I need the review committee to verify the wins by no later than midnight Tuesday before I assign aircraft for the next round.

Jbecks forfeit his match this week and therefore shiv advances.

Based on the following rule:

- If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series.  In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time and a screenshot of the DA roster showing that the opponent is a no show no later than 12:00 midnight CDT Sunday following posting of the updated bracket.

kilz
C.202
SkyRock
kilz posted numerous times and PM'd me showing that they had a Wednesday duel arranged that Skyrock didn't make while Skyrock has failed to post anything in this thread so kilz advances.

In accordance with the following rule:

- If a duel cannot be arranged between two players each player will have a chance to post the circumstances in this thread prior to the posting deadline.  If only one player posts and it is clear that they are making an attempt to arrange their duel then that player will advance, provided their post was at least 48 hours prior to the round closing deadline. If both players post and it is clear that the issue lies with only one player then the player not at fault will advance.  If it is unclear which player is at fault, if neither player posts, or if a single player posts inside the 48 hour window then a random draw will determine which player advances.

The following unfought duels were determined by random draw:

Manurin - Advances
La-5FN
L0nGb0w
L0nGb0w posted 2/14 inside the 48 hour window

Mensa
Yak-9U
Kazaa - Advances
Both players posted 2/14 inside the 48 hour window

MANPLESR - Advances
Hurricane Mk IIC
rattler2
Neither player has posted all week.

The following unfought duels are being granted 48 hour extensions as both players in both cases have made numerous posts in this thread attempting to schedule their duels.  These duels must be completed by midnight Tuesday:

DBCooper
I-16
Snaphook
Snaphook will forfeit if the duel cannot be completed.

CRAZYiVN
N1K2-J
Jolly01
Jolly, I suggest you visit the roster in the first post of this thread if you don't know a player’s in-game and BBs names.  This duel will be subjected to a random draw if not completed.

Speaking of that I had CRAZYiVN's in-game name just ever so slightly wrong.  It's actually CRAZYiVN.

And so, here's the bracket update.  Congrats to last weeks winners:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-10.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: infowars on February 15, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
Strip and I fought...  I lost decisively..  Can figure out how to post films.

But I witness the donut whooping first hand
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 15, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
Strip and I fought...  I lost decisively..  Can figure out how to post films.

But I witness the donut whooping first hand

 You Upload to mediafire or similar and then post the link here.....


Man Baldeagl....and to think...you do this all off your own back.....you must be a good and patient Dad...and if you are not one...would definitely make one...   :cheers: &  :salute....
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 11:52:56 AM
Strip and I fought...  I lost decisively..  Can figure out how to post films.

But I witness the donut whooping first hand

OK.  No need to review those films then.  The next match-up is:

Strip
P-40B  
MANPLESR
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
You Upload to mediafire or similar and then post the link here.....


Man Baldeagl....and to think...you do this all off your own back.....you must be a good and patient Dad...and if you are not one...would definitely make one...   :cheers: &  :salute....

I have to admit I was questioning this morning why I do this.  Last week was the least fun I've had running one of these and I couldn't even tell the whole story because I didn't want to go over the 10,000 charachter post limit.

Maybe the worst part is having to go through every post between updates to see who was and who wasn't trying to arrange duels for those that didn't get them in and then determining how the rules apply to determine who advances.  If everyone got their duels in on time it would really help me out as this update took me 4 hours to complete.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: -Draken- on February 15, 2010, 12:11:47 PM
Again my apologies for messing up.. twice! I didn't even realise I had broke the alt cap in the first duel, at least until I was asked to post it.
I figured I had saved the second duel by being at 10k and at a ~50mph speed deficit at icon range. Ah well.

Good luck all <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
Again my apologies for messing up.. twice! I didn't even realise I had broke the alt cap in the first duel, at least until I was asked to post it.
I figured I had saved the second duel by being at 10k and at a ~50mph speed deficit at icon range. Ah well.

Good luck all <S>

Just FYI most of us did agree that your violation of the alt ceiling didn't actually influence the outcome of the fights but they were violations nonetheless and as such constituted grounds for disqualification.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 15, 2010, 12:19:26 PM
Baldeagl,

Mensa and myself have arranged a duel in a couple of hours time.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 12:30:51 PM
Baldeagl,

Mensa and myself have arranged a duel in a couple of hours time.

OK then I'll let you get it in.  You have until midnight Tuesday.  If not completed by then a new random draw will determine a winner.

A new plane will be assigned for the winner vs dedalos so don't jump ahead until you have a new plane assignment for that duel.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 15, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Tupac,

Lets get this done mate, before Thursday if possible, I am hoping to avoid another Sunday/Monday fight, will send a PM....

Strip

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: -Draken- on February 15, 2010, 12:53:25 PM
Just FYI most of us did agree that your violation of the alt ceiling didn't actually influence the outcome of the fights but they were violations nonetheless and as such constituted grounds for disqualification.

Roger that. Gonna have to fire the mechanic who put my beer holder in front of the altimeter  ;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on February 15, 2010, 01:01:42 PM
I have to admit I was questioning this morning why I do this.  Last week was the least fun I've had running one of these and I couldn't even tell the whole story because I didn't want to go over the 10,000 charachter post limit.
BaldEagl, you are doing a great job.   :salute

For what it's worth, when I duel, the standard rules are 'BaldEagl' rules.  You are the Marquess of Queensbury in the AH world.


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 15, 2010, 01:47:38 PM
I had scheduled via pm to meet manurin today at ~2:30 CST, I see that you already did a random draw but I'd like to actually do the duel.  I'm sittin in the DA right now waiting and would like the same chance a few others were given to get our duel done.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 15, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Here are the films...

SWneo1 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/e36e0a61-70d0-4272-9002-0778e9d36c24/fight1swneo)

SWneo2 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/48bdb3ce-eb4b-4f70-9eb7-da6238a71f72/fight2-seneo)

Strip
Im having a problem viewing these films, anyone else? It opens but then Strip just augers..........
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 15, 2010, 01:58:19 PM
It really doesnt matter but its probably a film viewer bug, those were cut from one longer film.

SWNeo posted in any event so its a moot point....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 15, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
Where did he post? :huh Im sorry I cant find his :o
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 15, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
Reply #407...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 15, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
Reply #407...
Thank you, BE post on 406 kinda hides it :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 15, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
I'm afraid to say that Mensa did not show.

I logged into the DA 20 minutes before our scheduled duel at 8:00PM GMT, I used .f command every couple of minutes until 8:30PM GMT.

I'm too ill to wait any longer. If there's anything I dislike more than losing, it's winning by default.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 02:49:59 PM
I had scheduled via pm to meet manurin today at ~2:30 CST, I see that you already did a random draw but I'd like to actually do the duel.  I'm sittin in the DA right now waiting and would like the same chance a few others were given to get our duel done.

OK.  You have until midnight Tuesday.  If no results are posted then a new random draw will decide the winner.

There will be a new plane assignment for the winner of this duel and kilz.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 02:51:44 PM
I'm afraid to say that Mensa did not show.

I logged into the DA 20 minutes before our scheduled duel at 8:00PM GMT, I used .f command every couple of minutes until 8:30PM GMT.

I'm too ill to wait any longer. If there's anything I dislike more than losing, it's winning by default.

You still have until midnight central time tomorrow to get it in otherwise it will go to a new random draw where either of you might advance per my earlier post.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 15, 2010, 02:56:30 PM
Sorry all, this has been a huge mess.  I totally lost track of time.  All blame is on me.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 15, 2010, 03:02:34 PM
I have to admit I was questioning this morning why I do this.  Last week was the least fun I've had running one of these and I couldn't even tell the whole story because I didn't want to go over the 10,000 charachter post limit.

First thanks for putting this on, it's really been a fun experience.  I knew it would be time consuming for you to get all the results of the duels done.  It should become easier because the numbers are being cut in half each week.  I've been trying to get me duels done by thursday's for that reason.  Maybe some of the other guys can make that happen for you as well.

Thanks again,

TnDep
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: manurin on February 15, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
la-5 Longbow
f4u1a Longbow

Very good fights!!, good luck for the next ones!  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 15, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
Really sorry to add to your work load BE.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 15, 2010, 03:22:42 PM
The next match-up is:

L0nGb0w
P-47M
kilz
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 15, 2010, 04:34:26 PM
PM sent to redd, i agree with tndep (can't believe im sayin that *grin*)

getting these done as soon as possible should help BE and make things easier for him. i rather get them done and out of the way anyways :)

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 15, 2010, 04:45:09 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry last round didn't happen BE.  Me and Joach1m are scheduled for Wednedsay night this go-round.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 15, 2010, 04:49:15 PM
Cab some one tell me the plane matchup for me and irishone?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 15, 2010, 04:52:14 PM
PM sent longbow
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: stodd on February 15, 2010, 04:53:01 PM
Cab some one tell me the plane matchup for me and irishone?
The FM2.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 15, 2010, 04:59:11 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JOACH1M on February 15, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
Bald Eagl  me and shiv are scheudualed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Rattler on February 15, 2010, 05:38:45 PM
OHHH NOOOOO dang i coulda swore i was keepen track of the duels!!!! dang sorry eagle didnt know i had to go against manpleasr.... i did not see that post.Sorry about that eagle i should have kept better track of the posts  :frown:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 15, 2010, 06:02:24 PM
haha betty you so funny <Kiss> just remember I let you own me  :neener:

PM sent to redd, i agree with tndep (can't believe im sayin that *grin*)

getting these done as soon as possible should help BE and make things easier for him. i rather get them done and out of the way anyways :)


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 15, 2010, 08:54:50 PM
What is Rud3boi's bbs name? Was going to email but they must not be the same.

Thanks

TnDep
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 15, 2010, 09:27:02 PM
What is Rud3boi's bbs name? Was going to email but they must not be the same.

Thanks

TnDep
hgtonyvi




This one must have taken days to make :rofl
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 16, 2010, 03:23:58 AM
hgtonyvi




This one must have taken days to make :rofl

ty Junky  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 16, 2010, 06:36:27 AM
STILL didnt see crazyivan on last night...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 16, 2010, 07:47:26 AM
pm sent to cactus  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 16, 2010, 07:48:29 AM
STILL didnt see crazyivan on last night...

Have you guys connected via PM so you know what times he's on?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 08:19:41 AM
Kazaa, any day after 8pm.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 16, 2010, 08:22:00 AM
Kazaa, any day after 8pm.

you realise that is at least 1am if your east coast Ded?  for those of us running on her majesty's London time. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 09:10:33 AM
you realise that is at least 1am if your east coast Ded?  for those of us running on her majesty's London time. 

Well, I cant take a day off work to have two fights.  What time is good for you guys?  I can do weekend too but with kids wanting to do stuff I may miss it.  Not really fair to be available every day but being pinned to a Saturday or Sunday that could cause me to miss the duel due to real life.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 16, 2010, 09:30:51 AM
Well, I cant take a day off work to have two fights.

What about a day off for 40 fights with grizz? :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 09:36:54 AM
What about a day off for 40 fights with grizz? :D

He any good?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on February 16, 2010, 09:40:32 AM
He any good?

He used to be.  He hasn't played in 10 hours though so he might be a lil rusty.    :cool:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 16, 2010, 09:48:15 AM
Whenever I rolling scissor with you 109k guys I get 30mm up the clacker  ;)

Kudos to you.  Forced me to fight your fight.  <S>

If you don't mind me asking, since both fights followed roughly the same path - what is it you were doing to turn inside so effectively?

I was bringing the nose around as tightly as I thought possible - playing with trim, flaps, throttle, throwing in mild yo-yo's, etc and still, you got in behind me, after a minute or so, slowly but surely, each time.

(To be clear, I am NOT suggesting anything foul - looking to improve upon my obvious luftberry deficiency).   :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 09:54:40 AM
He used to be.  He hasn't played in 10 hours though so he might be a lil rusty.    :cool:

Hmmm, it was been about 12 hours for me so I'll need to catch up first  :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 16, 2010, 10:29:12 AM
PM sent to JB11.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 16, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
Another PM sent to Tupac/Manplesr.....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 16, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
Mensa, we've not had the best of luck setting up our duel, have we?

The majority of people who play AH2 are from the US, I feel that most aren't aware that I'm English, living in England and that there's a major time zone difference between our two countries. I work from 6:30AM to 4:00PM doing manual labour, I come home to the offices to continue on with the business side of things. I'm just too tired to do anything tonight.

It's a shame that we couldn't duel on Monday, I accept that we are both busy people and 'hit happens.

I feel that there's no point me being in this competition, it's just way to much hassle for what it's worth. Even if I won, or advanced by default, I don't fancy staying up 'till 2:00AM to duel Dedalos.

I hereby forfeit and grant Mensa the win, I wish you the best of luck sir. :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 16, 2010, 12:34:37 PM
I sent Snaphook a PM. Hope all is ok with him.  I haven't heard or seen anything from him in over a week. :headscratch: :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 01:57:12 PM
Mensa, we've not had the best of luck setting up our duel, have we?

The majority of people who play AH2 are from the US, I feel that most aren't aware that I'm English, living in England and that there's a major time zone difference between our two countries. I work from 6:30AM to 4:00PM doing manual labour, I come home to the offices to continue on with the business side of things. I'm just too tired to do anything tonight.

It's a shame that we couldn't duel on Monday, I accept that we are both busy people and 'hit happens.

I feel that there's no point me being in this competition, it's just way to much hassle for what it's worth. Even if I won, or advanced by default, I don't fancy staying up 'till 2:00AM to duel Dedalos.

I hereby forfeit and grant you the win, I wish you the best of luck sir. :salute

Can you do midnight or 11 PM?  I can leave work a couple of hours early
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 16, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
The above post directed to Mensa. BE gave us 'till Tuesday to complete our duel.

Dedalos, you will be dueling Mensa this week.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 02:02:49 PM
Any chance of putting the Euro guys on their own bracket (if they want to of course) and the winner of that bracket plays the winner of the US bracket?  It just does not sound right to have to forfeit because of schedule conflicts that there is no way around due to the time differences, if there could be an alternative.  Maybe too late now, but maybe not.  Euro winner plays US winner at the final.  That way, every one gets a chance to participate
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 16, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
US bracket? I guess that leaves me out then.  :neener:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 16, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
US bracket? I guess that leaves me out then.  :neener:
No it's not US only. I'd rather fight the foreigners...i can't understand them when they cussin' at me (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/drunkhilbilly.gif)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 16, 2010, 02:21:48 PM
I brought up the idea of adding an in game match making system similar to the game of which we do not speak, this would make the use of setting up duels via the forum completely redundant.
You would simply join a queue in game, wait for an opponent to join the queue and be ported into a private room to commence the duel. After the duel is complete, both parties would be ported back to the place where they queued, the lobby for instance.

There's been massive growth in the interest for competitive action since the Tri-Annual Duelling Bracket started up. I know this is on HTC's radar, but one can only hope.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 16, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
Yes we've discussed this before Kazaa, and I think that would be so awesome for the players and AH for future advertisements/recurring members.  The majority of the people like the dueling feature and that would be BA to have something like that.  No dought they need to get this in the works.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 16, 2010, 02:45:37 PM
It's too late for this tournament but I'm not opposed to the idea of segmenting off the Euro guys to a specific portion of the bracket to at least help get them through the early rounds but they'd still run into the time difference at some point.  Another idea might be to just make a completely seperate European based tournament to run independently alongside the existing tournament.  There wouldn't be a need for them ever to meet but they could.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 02:51:25 PM
It's too late for this tournament but I'm not opposed to the idea of segmenting off the Euro guys to a specific portion of the bracket to at least help get them through the early rounds but they'd still run into the time difference at some point.  Another idea might be to just make a completely seperate European based tournament to run independently alongside the existing tournament.  There wouldn't be a need for them ever to meet but they could.

Yeah, but that would be only one conflict for the finals.  I am sure that would be easy to set up.  Right now its not fair to them nor to us and it will lead to more random draws.  This is the second Ero I've drawn.  I can't be cutting weekend days in half just to be in the tournament.

Cursed, I meant time zones, not countries  :P
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 16, 2010, 02:57:30 PM
I'm sure some of the guys will voice there opinion BE but I worked 92 hours last week and I got mine in with Phanta.  Of course both parties have to be able to work together to make an arrangement.  I offered to wake up early before work and do the duel at 4a.m. my time but Phanta was off this past week and said that he didnt have a problem doing it at 1a.m. or 2a.m. his time.  I work up to 15 hours a day sometimes and I worked all 7 days last week, alot of people could make it happen if they choose to.  Nothing against the U.S. players (keep in mind that I'm from Tennessee) but I like dueling alot of the European fighters because their drive to get better is higher.  
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 03:10:11 PM
Well, it was just a suggestion so people would not forfeit or have random draws due to the time intervals, and only for the people that would chose to be in the other bracket.  Just makes things easier.  I LL STFU now and let BE run it the way he wants  :lol :lol :lol 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 16, 2010, 03:16:05 PM
Well, it was just a suggestion so people would not forfeit or have random draws due to the time intervals, and only for the people that would chose to be in the other bracket.  Just makes things easier.  I LL STFU now and let BE run it the way he wants  :lol :lol :lol 

lol ded I agree it is a good suggestion totally up to BE. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 16, 2010, 03:18:09 PM
I LL STFU now and let BE run it the way he wants  :lol :lol :lol  

No! Give me more to read while I kill time in class.

And I know what you meant:"Get those damn Canadians out of the tournaments;  all they're good for is making maple syrup for my pancakes!"  :neener:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 16, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
NO WAY!  Kazaa our lack of duels has been pretty much my fault, we had a time set, I even set it, and I forgot to show.  I dispute Kazaa's forfeit and ask that he advances. 

edit:  I guess if he absolutely wants to drop out then whatever.  Read the bit about getting up at 2AM, that doesn't sound fun, and this is all about fun.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 16, 2010, 03:21:17 PM
So that's where maple syrup comes from??
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 16, 2010, 03:22:06 PM
NO WAY!  Kazaa our lack of duels has been pretty much my fault, we had a time set, I even set it, and I forgot to show.  I dispute Kazaa's forfeit and ask that he advances.  

I dispute both of your forfeit and lets get this duel done.  To many forfeit's going on as it is, you 2 work out a time you still got a few hours to get it in.  
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 16, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
No! Give me more to read while I kill time in class.

And I know what you meant:"Get those damn Canadians out of the tournaments;  all they're good for is making maple syrup for my SEPancakes!"  :neener:

fixed
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 16, 2010, 03:58:18 PM
Tupac mentioned a new job in a pm returned to me, trying to get a good time to try and get this done but I don't know how that's gonna work out.

I am game just about all week except Thursday night...

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 16, 2010, 04:26:33 PM
I sent the PM, i just dont wanna be kicked out because we cant get connected.


Jolly01
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 16, 2010, 04:43:21 PM
Kudos to you.  Forced me to fight your fight.  <S>

If you don't mind me asking, since both fights followed roughly the same path - what is it you were doing to turn inside so effectively?

I was bringing the nose around as tightly as I thought possible - playing with trim, flaps, throttle, throwing in mild yo-yo's, etc and still, you got in behind me, after a minute or so, slowly but surely, each time.

(To be clear, I am NOT suggesting anything foul - looking to improve upon my obvious luftberry deficiency).   :aok


I'm fairly new to the 109 , been mucking around in it a bit for the past few weeks in the DA , so at this stage I just fly it like a hellcat or whatever, havent learnt any uber 109 tricks yet. Probably using full flaps when I can and messing around with the throttle.

Must say though , am finding the 30mm cannon an addictive experience after flying 50 cal planes up to now. Thing just go boom !


<S>




Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 16, 2010, 07:29:24 PM
well, i gave it my best..it was fun while it lasted! wtg redd! great fights! <<S>>


redd vs betty - round 1 - 190-d9 (redd wins)
redd vs betty - round 2 - spit 9 (redd wins)

didnt bother with a round 3 lol

good luck with the rest of the event guys! was fun! ty BE for doing all this!  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 16, 2010, 07:35:14 PM
Joo got beat by a boy!!!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 16, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
well, i gave it my best..it was fun while it lasted! wtg redd! great fights! <<S>>


redd vs betty - round 1 - 190-d9 (redd wins)
redd vs betty - round 2 - spit 9 (redd wins)

didnt bother with a round 3 lol

good luck with the rest of the event guys! was fun! ty BE for doing all this!  :salute



Gf's Betty   <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: hgtonyvi on February 16, 2010, 08:41:07 PM
Rud3boi VS TnDep
38L-TnDep
KI84-TnDep
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: betty on February 16, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
Joo got beat by a boy!!!

wait...redd is a boy??  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BiPoLaR on February 16, 2010, 09:32:26 PM
wait...redd is a boy??  :D
haha betty got shhhhhhhmacked by redd
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 16, 2010, 11:21:01 PM
wait...redd is a boy??  :D

Maybe that explains why my wife keeps telling me to grow up
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on February 17, 2010, 12:06:43 AM
fm2 - TexsTC
P47D11- IrishOne
P38L - IrishOne

great Fights. <<S>> good luck next round!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 17, 2010, 12:15:34 AM
Maybe that explains why my wife keeps telling me to grow up

grow up or grow out  :neener:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: IrishOne on February 17, 2010, 01:59:24 AM


great Fights. <<S>> good luck next round!

good stuff Tex :)  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 17, 2010, 06:44:21 AM
no reply from the PM, and didnt see him on last night.

Jolly01
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 17, 2010, 06:47:48 AM
no reply from the PM, and didnt see him on last night.

Jolly01
+1
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 17, 2010, 09:47:28 AM
Extensions are over.  The following matches are now set ot go and need to be completed with results poste by midnight Sunday:

dedalos
Spitfire Mk V
Mensa


Kazaa forfeit (twice) after Mensa forfeit (twice) due to time zone difficulties.  I have therefore decided that I will segment off any European players in the next bracket to help them with this issue through as many rounds as possible provided they indicate this preference during the next bracket's sign-up period.  If they don't indicate a preference they will be included in the balance of the bracket with everyone else.  Other than this specific segmentation everything else will still be randomly drawn.  Hopefully this will encourage more of our European freinds to join the tournament.  Kazaa never even got to fight due to a snowstorm forfeit by AApache in the first round.

DBCooper
C.202  
batfinkv


Numerous posts by DBCooper and none by Snaphook since the extension advance DBCooper.

Jolly01
Seafire Mk II  
Hopper


Numerous posts by Jolly01 and none by CRAZYiVN since the extension advance Jolly01.

In addition, I'm disappointed that I haven't heard from a single review committee member regarding the films of Bruv119's wins so I reviewed the films myself.  I guess I'm the review committee now too.  Bruv's wins are confirmed and his next match-up is.

Bruv119
Bf 110G-2
slimmer


So this round officially ends with six forfeits, a random draw and a disqualification or 1/4 of the 32 scheduled duels.  I hope it gets better from here.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 17, 2010, 10:27:18 AM
Quote
In addition, I'm disappointed that I haven't heard from a single review committee member regarding the films of Bruv119's wins so I reviewed the films myself.  I guess I'm the review committee now too.  Bruv's wins are confirmed and his next match-up is.

Sorry BE, I figured I would lay low on this one, since I was supposed to be an Alternate, and I was voicing my "Reviews" of all the earlier matters pretty heavily..... If I need to step up from here on, just let me know....... I felt I was walking on others feet, while i was the one who stepped down to be an Alternate instead.....
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 17, 2010, 10:49:39 AM
A segmented european bracket will not be worth it, there will only be three or four members and then what...we have to wait till the finals to fight again? I wont be signing up if that's how it's going to be next time, not that that should bother anyone. IMO it should be ONE bracket not seperate nonsense. All change just for because one person failed to get online? Every other european has met the deadlines.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 17, 2010, 11:27:28 AM
A segmented european bracket will not be worth it, there will only be three or four members and then what...we have to wait till the finals to fight again? I wont be signing up if that's how it's going to be next time, not that that should bother anyone. IMO it should be ONE bracket not seperate nonsense. All change just for because one person failed to get online? Every other european has met the deadlines.
:aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 17, 2010, 11:28:54 AM
A segmented european bracket will not be worth it, there will only be three or four members and then what...we have to wait till the finals to fight again? I wont be signing up if that's how it's going to be next time, not that that should bother anyone. IMO it should be ONE bracket not seperate nonsense. All change just for because one person failed to get online? Every other european has met the deadlines.

He said if they so choose to.  Who knows, there may be a lot more signing up from Europe if they did not worry about the time difference.  Who ever wants and can be available should be included in this bracket.  If there are not enough people then they are all welcome to join this bracket, but they should be able to show up at a time that is not reasonable just to them.

This is not about fighting.  We are in the DA everyday if fighting is what we are looking for.  I mean, it is only max of three fights per week.  Who ever is on the other side is not going to miss match.  Maybe merge at the semifinals, like 3 US and one Euro branch?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 17, 2010, 11:39:50 AM
A segmented european bracket will not be worth it, there will only be three or four members and then what...we have to wait till the finals to fight again? I wont be signing up if that's how it's going to be next time, not that that should bother anyone. IMO it should be ONE bracket not seperate nonsense. All change just for because one person failed to get online? Every other european has met the deadlines.

It would be an option at sign-up if you wanted to be segmented or not.  Lets just say four Europeans sign up and want to be segmented.  They are randomly distributed through the first four slots in the bracket so are fighting each other for the first and second rounds.  Then, for the third round they finally have to match up with the general bracket and deal with the time zone difference.  One or more might also have first round byes depending on how the player distribution through the first round goes and that might get them another round fighting each other.

Anyway, nothing's set in stone but if it encouraged more people to get involved it might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 17, 2010, 11:43:33 AM
BE,

Looks like Tupac/Manplesr is going to be tough to get into the DA, I am trying to avoid an issue but dont want to be stuck in a random draw after being available nearly all week.

(PM's were sent, and I even went to the point of asking at what point to you think you might fly.)

<S> Thanks for putting up with me and running this event....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 17, 2010, 11:44:33 AM
I agree it will make no difference everyone still has a fight every round.  If it helps the european's and the us players for the first few match ups I'm all for it.  Only thing I can see is after the european's best fighter wins how are you going to put them back in to the regular bracket because by the third rd. there's no byes, just a thought.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 17, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
I agree it will make no difference everyone still has a fight every round.  If it helps the european's and the us players for the first few match ups I'm all for it.  Only thing I can see is after the european's best fighter wins how are you going to put them back in to the regular bracket because by the third rd. there's no byes, just a thought.

See my post above.  They would just naturally merge into the bracket at whatever point the bracket structure forces it to happen but by then there would be far fewer European players (it could be more than one depending on how many there are and how the first round is structured (open slots allocated) and some might have to merge in sooner than others) facing the time zone challenge.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 17, 2010, 02:15:04 PM
oh right, sorry i did not read carefully enough, i would choose to stick in the main bracket.

thanks for the corrections guys.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 17, 2010, 05:39:50 PM
Thanks baldeagle <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 17, 2010, 06:20:15 PM

In addition, I'm disappointed that I haven't heard from a single review committee member regarding the films of Bruv119's wins so I reviewed the films myself.
Public apology BE,Sorry, I actually did watch the films youasked but with this new duty station I forgot to post my thoughts on them, I think you made the right decision.

check your pms btw, I sent one about the Bruv,raider fight :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JOACH1M on February 17, 2010, 06:25:24 PM
109g14-Shiv
F4u-4-Shiv


Mid air colision <S>  JOACHIM
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 17, 2010, 06:28:01 PM
109g14-Shiv
F4u-4-Shiv


Mid air colision <S>  JOACHIM
No shame in losing to Shiv...awesome stick, bad choice on the Hog second round :aok :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JOACH1M on February 17, 2010, 06:32:30 PM
lol i had him in the hog, but rammed him on accident
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 17, 2010, 06:38:29 PM
<<S>> You did have me in the hog round Joach1m, nice flying.  I didn't get the collison message though, I though you had hit the wall.  I didn't know until I got your PM (Joach1m is vox and text muted so it was tricky arranging everything.)  I'll post the films shortly just in case there needs to be a ruling.

<<S>> again, nice fights.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 17, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
Fight 1 - 109-G14
http://www.sendspace.com/file/obphj8

Fight 2 - F4U-4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ao6jna

Ty again Joach1m, sorry it ended that way.  If we have to go again I'd be glad to, that stinks it ended like that.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 17, 2010, 07:43:32 PM
I watched it, sending a PM to him right after. It was a Lag issue definately.

Joachim I dont think you "had" him, shiv extended to get out of that circle fight which was going nowhere.

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 17, 2010, 07:49:44 PM
Ah, felt like I was behind the whole fight.  Too tense, gotta relax.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on February 17, 2010, 09:03:06 PM
Hopper vs. Jolly01

Round 1: Seafire...Hopper
Round 2: La-5...Hopper


Good fight in the Seafire hopper <S> Good luck in the tournament <<S>>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 17, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
BaldEgle,

I will review films for you if need be for the remainder of the event, even if I should find myself a spectator.

Let me know....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 18, 2010, 04:21:05 AM
Round 1- C202s....winner Batfink
Round 2- P51ds....Winner Batfink

Batfink is a helluva stick. Definitely out of my league. Good luck the rest of the way batty!  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 18, 2010, 04:35:48 AM
Fun fights sir, you got some good moves in there. I got the films if you want to see fights from my view point.

S!!
 :cheers:

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Vinkman on February 18, 2010, 07:16:07 AM

Vinkman vs AKElfy

F6F    winner - AKElfy
P-39  winner - AKElfy

Poor fights by me. Sorry I wasn't more of a challenge Elf.  :salute

I think the F6F film got overwriten, as I only have the P-39 film. Oops. If Needed, Elfy can post to make my humiliation complete.  :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/352358941/AKElfy_vs_Vinkman_p39.ahf.html

Nice job Elf, good luck moving forward!  :aok



Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on February 18, 2010, 08:40:09 AM
<S> Vinkman , an honorable, great sport :salute You did just fine, I got lucky on the P39 reverse, nearly blacked-out/ripped wings off :eek: Was surprised when I let off stick and was still flying. tnx 4 Gfs     elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Vinkman on February 18, 2010, 09:07:03 AM
<S> Vinkman , an honorable, great sport :salute You did just fine, I got lucky on the P39 reverse, nearly blacked-out/ripped wings off :eek: Was surprised when I let off stick and was still flying. tnx 4 Gfs     elfy

And you as well Elf. <S>

Would love some casual rematches just for the fun of it sometime. I had very little dueling experience when I signed up, but I spent the past 2 weeks in the DA working with Dedalos, juggler, Shiv, StuVinyl, TW9, and others. I learned more in the last week than I did in 7 months in the MA. I want to thank those fellas for all thier help.  :salute


Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 18, 2010, 01:49:22 PM
Still no word from Manplesr, tonight I will be out testing and Saturday night racing. Other than that I am pretty much free if he can login.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 18, 2010, 02:06:48 PM
Still no word from Manplesr, tonight I will be out testing and Saturday night racing. Other than that I am pretty much free if he can login.

Strip

As a review committe alternate I've only seen him respond to one PM.  I don't think he's paying very close attention.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 18, 2010, 04:44:48 PM
As a review committe alternate I've only seen him respond to one PM.  I don't think he's paying very close attention.
Or 2 weeks was up :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 18, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
If your having a problem with reviewers I will step up if you need help.

(You have that slacker Junky too, lol)

 :D :P :cheers:

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 18, 2010, 06:43:06 PM
If your having a problem with reviewers I will step up if you need help.

(You have that slacker Junky too, lol)

 :D :P :cheers:

Strip

Hey, I actually have watched every film from all the touneys so far that were posted.

get on my level weak boi :D :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on February 18, 2010, 08:58:28 PM
Dedalos: spit V
Mensa: Hurri IID
Dedalos: La7

Grats.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DadRabit on February 18, 2010, 09:10:01 PM
S!

twizzty 1094
dadrabit f4u1d
twizzty c202

S! suh that last 202 fight left my hands shaking.  one of the best and longest 1 on 1's i've ever been in!  good luck in the next round.   :aok

S!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Twizzty on February 18, 2010, 09:18:45 PM
<<S>> DadRabit

Thanks for the great fights bud, so intense!

Look me up and we can do that again, anytime!

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 19, 2010, 12:40:18 PM
Seven duels to go out of sixteen and two and a half days to get them in.

Today is the last day to post to avoid a random draw if you haven't been able to arrange your duels.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 19, 2010, 01:00:03 PM
Well...

I have pm'ed Tupac/Manplesr several times, left a post in here once a day since the bracket came out and pretty much gave him an open date.

Dont know what more I can do.....sorry.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 19, 2010, 01:10:46 PM
JB11 and I are hoping to meet up tonight.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 19, 2010, 01:29:04 PM
myself and slimmer are going tomorrow am
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on February 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
Cursed VS JB11:

Round 1, Mosquito: JB11
Round 2, Spit V: JB11

Fun fights. Good luck the rest of the way.  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 19, 2010, 11:35:55 PM
Round 1 P40E - SunsFan
Round 2 F6F  - SunsFan
 :salute Dodger great fights
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jododger on February 19, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
Round 1 P40E - SunsFan
Round 2 F6F  - SunsFan
 :salute Dodger great fights
I agree gf as always  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: slimmer on February 20, 2010, 03:57:25 AM
Round 1, 110G2 bruv119
Round 2,109 G2 bruv119
 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 20, 2010, 04:02:10 AM
Round 1, 110G2 bruv119
Round 2,109 G2 bruv119
 :salute

gf's  m8    :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 20, 2010, 07:30:15 AM
longbow and i are set to duel this sunday <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on February 20, 2010, 08:18:00 AM
JB11/AAJagerX

Brew- JB11
P-38J- JB11

Great fights sir, that Brewster round was insane!

 :salute

AAJagerX
Good fun AAJagerX!  Was going through films and figured I'd post this one.  Has to be the closest I've ever been (external view) without a collision message!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?ez4kqnxnigm

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on February 20, 2010, 08:20:24 AM
Cursed VS JB11:

Round 1, Mosquito: JB11
Round 2, Spit V: JB11

Fun fights. Good luck the rest of the way.  :salute
Thank you Cursed.  Always fun.

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 20, 2010, 08:24:11 AM
Good fun AAJagerX!  Was going through films and figured I'd post this one.  Has to be the closest I've ever been (external view) without a collision message!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?ez4kqnxnigm

 :salute 11
That was close your wing went between his wing and tail.



but...

I saw some HOing in there on the merges :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on February 20, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
Rd 1 Brewster Cactus

Rd 2 C202 Cactus

<S> Good fights and GL with next round.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Lepape2 on February 20, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
TonyJoey VS Lepape2

Round1: F4F-4 - TonyJoey
Round2: P47M - Lepape2
Round3: SpitIX - TonyJoey

Great fights sir  :salute I was completely outmanoeuvred in that F4 and spit9 fights, there was no way I could have made it. You deserve this win hands down  :aok

Hope to meet you again!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 21, 2010, 09:14:46 AM
It appears I will not be able to get my duel in with Tupac/Manplesr.

Not for a lack of effort on my part though....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 21, 2010, 01:21:04 PM
Good fun AAJagerX!  Was going through films and figured I'd post this one.  Has to be the closest I've ever been (external view) without a collision message!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?ez4kqnxnigm

 :salute 11

No doubt man, I couldn't believe we didn't hit.  I laughed my arse off when I watched it for the first time.  I knew we were close, but that was just ridiculous!

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 21, 2010, 01:22:53 PM
That was close your wing went between his wing and tail.



but...

I saw some HOing in there on the merges :salute

Not quite a ho, but was close.  Any shot I get against JB11, I'm taking it.

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 21, 2010, 02:57:31 PM
L0nGb0w if your reading this thread i have been in the MA's for hours waiting for you to show up. you said you where on afternoon to evening. i will pop back in the ma in a couple of hours. i even woke up early to make your time zone dang it
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 21, 2010, 07:07:02 PM
If anyone hears of any 2weekers or number guys touney let me know. I could possibly make it into the quarter finals in that one. :(
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on February 21, 2010, 07:15:50 PM
Not quite a ho, but was close.  Any shot I get against JB11, I'm taking it.

 :salute
The rules do state that anything goes after the first merge. But that don't make it right.....just my 2 cents  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 21, 2010, 09:48:27 PM
come on L0nGb0w lets do this already. I finaly get a nice default plane P47M and no one to fight in it. BE i have been online for 6 hours now and going to wait maybe another three but thats it i have to get some rest as well
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 21, 2010, 10:59:21 PM
my bad, power been out almost all day, I'm back up and running and will be online shortly here.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 21, 2010, 11:08:36 PM
The rules do state that anything goes after the first merge. But that don't make it right.....just my 2 cents  :salute

Fight JB11.  Then you shall understand.

On my vid it clearly wasn't a ho...  Just one of those fabled low angle merge deflection shots.   :devil

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 21, 2010, 11:57:21 PM
P47M L0nGb0w
A6M5B L0nGb0w

i misunderstood the rules i thought we had to stay 10k till the merge. i didnt know we could dive down to pick up E when in Icon range. Salute longbow good fights

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=532230

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=532229
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 22, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
i misunderstood the rules i thought we had to stay 10k till the merge. i didnt know we could dive down to pick up E when in Icon range.

- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling at all times prior to the merge.

The merge dive is a dueling standard used by many if not most duelers.  Now you know.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 22, 2010, 09:10:33 AM
This week went much smoother than the week prior.  No drama, no hours searching to see who posted what because duels weren't fought, PM's were at a manageable level... whew!  I wish every week of the tournament went that smoothly.

I think the review committee issues are worked out.  I appreciate the offers of assistance and if the situation warrants it I'll keep those offers in mind.

There was some talk this week about segmenting off European and possibly even Asian/Australian players into their own areas of the bracket to accomodate time zone differentials in future tournaments but after a short poll in another thread I'm scrapping that idea and we'll continue with the current format.

There was an issue brought to my attention in the SEraider/Bruv119 duels that I need to address.  In at least one of the duels Bruv was at 9K pre-merge (pre icon range).  I reviewed the films when the review committee didn't respond and advanced Bruv.  At the time I wasn't thinking of being below pre-merge cielings as an advantage although it could be.  In retrospect I made a mistake in letting Bruv through and that/those duels should have been re-fought but I won't force that issue at this point.  Just be aware, in the future you must be at the 10K pre-merge alt (within reason) until icon range.

In this weeks only unfought duel Strip advances with no posts from MANPLESR.

So that's it for news. 

This is the final week of Elimination Rounds and will be a big week as the winners will advance to the Quarterfinal round (you can tell it's big because it's a different color in the bracket  ;) ).  Only one player has made the QF's in each of the last two tournaments (batfinkv).  He has a chance to add a third to that this week while three others (JB11, Sunsfan, TonyJoey) each have a chance to make their second QF.  No matter if they make it or are denied the entire lower half of the bracket will be first time Quarterfinalists.

It's time to seperate the contenders from the pretenders.  Here's the updated bracket:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-11.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 22, 2010, 10:23:46 AM
Good fights kilz  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 22, 2010, 10:23:51 AM
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling at all times prior to the merge.

The merge dive is a dueling standard used by many if not most duelers.  Now you know.

i wasnt whining nor b|tching was simply stating
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 22, 2010, 10:25:59 AM
Good fights kilz  :salute

 :salute good luck with the rest of the turny
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 22, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Ohhhh TJ, where you be?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 22, 2010, 04:33:18 PM
Look at the top right bracket......my money is going on the person coming out of that mess :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 22, 2010, 04:42:58 PM
I know it is not 1/4 finals time yet, but all the listed match ups would make for some very good films worth watching..just saying

share the experience, if only by watching yours ( experience that is  :D ) via films  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: WMLute on February 22, 2010, 05:07:05 PM
I know it is not 1/4 finals time yet, but all the listed match ups would make for some very good films worth watching..just saying

share the experience, if only by watching yours ( experience that is  :D ) via films  :aok

Agreed.

Almost all of those matches made me go "oooh! good fight".
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 22, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
I know it is not 1/4 finals time yet, but all the listed match ups would make for some very good films worth watching..just saying

share the experience, if only by watching yours ( experience that is  :D ) via films  :aok
I think all the films should be posted from every round :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TonyJoey on February 22, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
Ohhhh TJ, where you be?

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 23, 2010, 08:04:54 AM
:bolt:
:angel:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on February 23, 2010, 04:54:37 PM
It was quiet and still in the house of AH and a forum thread fell almost out of sight, when suddenly, there was a Bump in the night.... 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 23, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
Start your fights and post films :pray :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 23, 2010, 06:04:40 PM
Redd and I are communicating trying to set up a time, shouldn't  be a problem.  I will also post our films should be fun and long  :cheers:

Were 18 hours apart but we'll get ours done :P
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 23, 2010, 08:18:47 PM
Redd and I are communicating trying to set up a time, shouldn't  be a problem.  I will also post our films should be fun and long  :cheers:

Were 18 hours apart but we'll get ours done :P
I just saw him on TnDep, he logged but he was looking for a warm-up duel against me....I told him all your flying habits :D :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 23, 2010, 08:58:30 PM
akElfy,

When do you typically fly, was curious when you wanted to get together?

Free any time but Fri and Sat night, going drag racing....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 23, 2010, 09:32:14 PM
I just saw him on TnDep, he logged but he was looking for a warm-up duel against me....I told him all your flying habits :D :salute

lol Junky yeah me and Redd met up and I got to say one of the longest fights I've ever been in about 12 to 13 min. long on one. 

 :salute Redd enjoyed it fights bud  :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 23, 2010, 09:45:21 PM

Round 1 P51d TnDep
Round 2 109K  Redd
Round 3 F4u1d TnDep

Fun fights <S>

Good luck for the rest of it
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 23, 2010, 09:58:22 PM
Round 1 P51d TnDep
Round 2 109K  Redd
Round 3 F4u1d TnDep

Fun fights <S>

Good luck for the rest of it


P 51 http://www.mediafire.com/?rzximzzmmmm this is the long fight and my knee is still throbbing the other two isn't much to see they lasted less

then 30 sec.

Thank you Redd your such a gentleman <<S>>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Big Rat on February 23, 2010, 10:13:53 PM
Congrats TnDep :aok  Hope my help was worth something in this :D

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sonic23 on February 23, 2010, 10:35:27 PM
o man this looks like fun, I wish i could of been in this.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 23, 2010, 10:35:55 PM
Sonic!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 24, 2010, 12:59:17 AM
wtg Dep!   

looks like our training paid off  :aok

you going to post up all 3 films?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Redd on February 24, 2010, 01:24:14 AM
wtg Dep!   

looks like our training paid off  :aok

you going to post up all 3 films?


Here ya go


http://www.mediafire.com/file/wddztonityv/tndep1.ahf

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ymwdj0m4yle/tndep2.ahf

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ouybgojzm0j/tndep3.ahf

Took an opportunity snap shot in the 3rd that was a littlle fq , it probably looked worse at Tndep's end, he thought I'd ho'd him , but it was side of plane from my angle . One of those you're never quite sure whether to take. Anyway it  didn't do me any good so all's well.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 24, 2010, 01:45:10 AM
Wow, on your first duel my only thought was holy spiraling scissors batman!!!

 :D

Nothing like a ten minute (plus!) fight to start series off....looked like fun!

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on February 24, 2010, 05:10:44 AM
TnDep is getting good........ :airplane:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 24, 2010, 05:36:35 AM
Thanks all yeah BigRat thanks for the help, also to Bruv and Kazaa for the duels this week those guys are awesome  :aok and also to Zap for the warm up before the fights great stick as well. 

That 10 min. fight at the beginning is not what me or Redd wanted don't get me wrong it was fun but Redd's arm locked up on him my knee still hurts this morning Palms were sweating ect. ect. does HTC have workman's comp? just kidding Hope everyone has a great week  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 24, 2010, 11:27:28 AM
Bruv119 vs. L0nGb0w

Spitfire mk VIII -- Bruv119
Bf-109k4         -- Bruv119

gfs sir, especially the spit; you completely turned that around on me

GL with the tourney  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Tordon22 on February 24, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
I don't think you can call me flopping around like a fish, a warm up :) .

Glad to see you did well! Good luck for the remainder.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 24, 2010, 11:47:32 AM
Bruv119 vs. L0nGb0w

Spitfire mk VIII -- Bruv119
Bf-109k4         -- Bruv119

gfs sir, especially the spit; you completely turned that around on me

GL with the tourney  :salute

gfs longbow and ty   :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: shiv on February 25, 2010, 06:51:17 PM
P47-D40 - Sunsfan   http://www.sendspace.com/file/ys841f
F4U-1 - Sunsfan      http://www.sendspace.com/file/7u2h5r

Great flying Suns, that was an education.  I even had trouble merging with ya.  <<S>> and good luck the rest of the way.

Thanks BaldEagl for running this, had a lot of fun.  Look forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Hopper on February 25, 2010, 07:44:04 PM
I'm going to have to withdraw, closed on a house I've been trying to buy, time to move now.  Sorry for standing you up today cactus I didn't expect to have to close today. 

Sorry guys it moved alot faster than I thought it would, good luck in the tourney.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on February 25, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
 :pray Strip, hope u get the trannie fixed. Been on all day, but the car is mo impotent ;)  Ill be on till aboot 10pm thursday. If that wont  work, sunday night after 6pm pst?   elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 25, 2010, 09:22:17 PM
We got the transmission back in, a few hundred dollars later and a sore back to go with it. Thankfully we found the crack before it let loose down track spilling fluid and god knows what else everywhere.

Have school all day tomorrow and racing at night as well. Saturday will work, plan on being in the scenario at 3 PM EST so after or before that.

Sunday is also good for me too.....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 25, 2010, 09:55:40 PM
P47-D40 - Sunsfan   http://www.sendspace.com/file/ys841f
F4U-1 - Sunsfan      http://www.sendspace.com/file/7u2h5r

Great flying Suns, that was an education.  I even had trouble merging with ya.  <<S>> and good luck the rest of the way.

Thanks BaldEagl for running this, had a lot of fun.  Look forward to the next one.
:salute Great flying
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: IrishOne on February 25, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
Round 1---Hurricane MK1  JB11
Round 2---FW190A5  IrishOne
Round 3---FM2  JB11

Great flying and great fights.   You are a damn good stick  :salute

Good luck the rest of the tourny  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on February 25, 2010, 11:43:04 PM
<S> Strip gotta log(9:39) Good luck racing friday and sat, Ill check in fri n sat just INCASE u have time, if not...sunday after 6pm 4sure=)   elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on February 26, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Round 1---Hurricane MK1  JB11
Round 2---FW190A5  IrishOne
Round 3---FM2  JB11

Great flying and great fights.   You are a damn good stick  :salute

Good luck the rest of the tourny  :aok
Thank you sir.  Very nice flying on your part as well.  Sorry about the fights afterwards.  I discoed and my system or IP didn't want to cope with me even after resetting everything.  Not too sure what it was.  I owe ya.  Give me a shout and we'll do it again anytime.

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 26, 2010, 09:58:56 AM
Unofficial Quarter Final Bracket Outlook....

Bruv119 vs TnDep

JB11 vs Sunsfan

Cactus vs (Strip or akELFY)

(BatfinkV or Twizzty) vs (TonyJoey or dedalos)

Regardless of who moves on there are some going to be some great fights in the coming days and weeks.

<S> Gentlemen, should be fun!

Strip

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Twizzty on February 26, 2010, 09:18:57 PM
Hurri IIC - BatfinkV
109-G2 - BatfinkV

<S> BatfinkV, that 109G2 fight is what this is all about, alot of fun...TY sir!

And S! to BE for this great event, TY for all the hard work.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on February 26, 2010, 10:41:15 PM


p40 - Dedalos
Spit9 - TJ
Spit5 - TJ

<S> Brat  :rofl
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TonyJoey on February 26, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
Gf's ded  :D

 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on February 26, 2010, 10:51:38 PM
My monies on Bruv!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on February 26, 2010, 10:56:24 PM
Good fights Twizzty, the 109 fight was very intense. Definitely what this thing is all about.

Excelent flying. S!

films (Twizzty and I agreed they should be posted as that 109 fight might be fun to watch for some):

hurricane IIc (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/twizzty_hurri.ahf)

109 G2 (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/twizzty_109.ahf)

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on February 26, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
My monies on Bruv!

I second that
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 27, 2010, 05:00:08 AM
your throwing money down the drain so sad............ :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on February 27, 2010, 05:01:42 AM
your throwing money down the drain so sad............ :D

that be FIGHTING talk!!   

will be fun thats for sure...  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 27, 2010, 05:30:43 AM
lol Bruv you the Man...... :salute

I'm sure here on in I'll be out classed pretty badly but after a year playing the game with no previous experience I'm pretty stoked about getting to the quarters. 

I tried to get alot of people to join in this tournament that said I'm not ready or I'll get beat or I just don't know....... To me it's not about winning or losing but meeting new people and giving your best to the fight.

Next time around guys if you are on the fence about joining, it's a game here to have fun and why pay 15 a month if your worried about losing.  Atleast you'll have some good film to watch and critique yourself.  I watched 4 hours of film just yesterday and will probably do the same today.

Congrats to all who made it to the quarters nice work  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on February 27, 2010, 09:35:30 AM
It's like I've continued to say; you never know who you're going to have to fight or what plane assignments you'll get so you never know how far you can go until you try.  And then, 2-3 fights go pretty quick and if the guy you're fighting is having an off day or doesn't do well in the assigned plane you're on to the next round. 

But eventually the cream rises to the top.  It looks like there's going to be some really great QF fights.  There should be some fun film to watch coming out of that round.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: maddafinga on February 27, 2010, 11:22:26 AM
Well I fully intend to enter the next one, despite having drawn Bruv in the first round.  I had a good time despite the attack of nerves, and hopefully the next one will be less nerve wracking and better fought from my end of things.  Even with all that, it was still fun, the anticipation was great and following the actual tournament of it is and has been fun.  I can't wait till the next time, and I've got a lot of practicing and training to do! 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 27, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
I wouldn't write off TnDep...  IMO, Bruv's gonna have a handful. 

I REQUIRE FILM!

 :salute

AAJagerX
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AAJagerX on February 27, 2010, 01:07:18 PM
Just a thought...  Vegas carries odds and let's people bet on just about anything these days.  I wonder....   :devil

AAJagerX
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on February 27, 2010, 01:42:58 PM
Just a thought...  Vegas carries odds and let's people bet on just about anything these days.  I wonder....   :devil

AAJagerX

lol Jager u slip some under the table well you know........................ :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Reaper90 on February 28, 2010, 10:59:39 AM
Well I fully intend to enter the next one, despite having drawn Bruv in the first round.   

I know how you feel.  :uhoh

<---- was slaughtered by TonyJoey in first round.

But to quote a Governor, "I'll be back!"

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on February 28, 2010, 05:53:50 PM
"I'll be back!"

i'm with him  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on February 28, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Sorry Doug,

I got roped into moving my mom today, from Fort Myers to Bradenton, a round trip of about 4 hours. The original plan was to do it next week, so much for that idea I guess. Enough stuff we commissioned the 24' enclosed racecar trailer and still couldn't get all of it. In any event my joystick is to screwed to do just about any flying much less a duel anyway. I had ordered one Wednesday, overnight, UPS says tomorrow before lunch, just my luck. As my squadron mates in the beta scenario can attest both times I died were mostly impart to that. If BaldEagl cant give us an extension I sincerely wish you the best of luck with the rest of the tournament as you deserve to move on. If he does grant it, well, going from a twisty to a rudder pedal setup should give you all the opening you need.

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 01, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
It's hard to believe that with only eight duels we still can't get them all in in a week, but, due to the fact that this will determine the quarterfinals I'll grant a 48 hour extension to Strip and akELFY.  You have until midnight tomorrow (Tuesday) and this will not delay your next round deadline.  I'll post your next round plane as soon as these duels are completed.  If it's not completed I'll take Strip's post as a forfeiture and advance akELFY.

This brings up a topic of common courtesy; If you know that your not going to be able to make a previously scheduled duel send your opponent a PM as soon as you know so they aren't sitting in the arena waiting for you.  Most likey they have better things to do.

Other than that there's no news to report this week.

Remember, all films must be posted from this point forward and must be recorded from take-off.

Congratulations to all the quarterfinalists.  This looks like it's going to be a great round.

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-12.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on March 01, 2010, 08:47:11 AM
lol Jager u slip some under the table well you know........................ :cheers:

Tndep your progress through this tournament is simply amazing Sir!  By the way Jager when he says slip some under the table, he is talking about anything creme filled... :rofl

(http://www.hamburgercalculus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/donuts3.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: jolly22 on March 01, 2010, 09:00:14 AM
Bruv and Elfy in the finals.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 01, 2010, 11:43:28 AM
Tndep your progress through this tournament is simply amazing Sir!  By the way Jager when he says slip some under the table, he is talking about anything creme filled... :rofl

(http://www.hamburgercalculus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/donuts3.jpg)


 :rofl Way you little cracker you got me good  :aok and thank you i'm suprised to
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 02:36:20 PM
<snip>

That's exactly why I don't join this tournament.  I simply can't commit to something like this and dedicate my time to it when I have this stupid classes + working nights (starting in about 2 weeks).
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
That's exactly why I don't join this tournament.  I simply can't commit to something like this and dedicate my time to it when I have this stupid classes + working nights (starting in about 2 weeks).

You do know it will be over in two weeks right?  :D :P
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 03:55:54 PM
You do know it will be over in two weeks right?  :D :P

Well, duh, but there will be another one I'm assuming :P
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 01, 2010, 04:08:05 PM
you know,madda,banshee,reaper, they need us...for with out our input they would not be able to get the ridiculous kill streaks they accumulate and look so spectacular whilst doing it....so remember we are some of the most important players in the game... without us they are just....average at best    hahahaha <S> guys good luck for the up coming match ups...will be fun to see the films
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 04:30:33 PM
you know,madda,banshee,reaper, they need us...for with out our input they would not be able to get the ridiculous kill streaks they accumulate and look so spectacular whilst doing it....so remember we are some of the most important players in the game... without us they are just....average at best    hahahaha <S> guys good luck for the up coming match ups...will be fun to see the films

Am I the only one that is too dumb to understand this?  Or is it just confusing :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 01, 2010, 04:52:21 PM
Well, duh, but there will be another one I'm assuming :P
Not for a bit I believe BE is taking a break for awhile after this one
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
I must've missed that somewhere.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 01, 2010, 05:19:16 PM
Not for a bit I believe BE is taking a break for awhile after this one

Not quite true.  I'm probably going to have to cancel my account near the end of this month (when the next billing is due) due to not having a job for the past 10 months but hopefully I'll still have Internet access and be able to run the next tourney.  I'll need Internet after all to continue to look for work.  The only thing that could change that is if, heaven forbid, I end up homeless or something.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 01, 2010, 06:24:44 PM
As way of thanks for setting up this tourney I would be willing to contribute to paying your sub BE, would 11 other people pay a month each with me to buy Baldy a years sub?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 01, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
Not a problem mechanic I got a month if BE don't mind us doing this for him.  It's the least we can do for him spending his time setting up these tournaments for us.  As long as BE don't mind us giving, he needs to set up a paypal account so we can forward the money. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 01, 2010, 06:32:59 PM
As way of thanks for setting up this tourney I would be willing to contribute to paying your sub BE, would 11 other people pay a month each with me to buy Baldy a years sub?


Not a problem mechanic I got a month

I wouldn't feel right about that but thanks for the offer.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: texastc316 on March 01, 2010, 06:33:05 PM
+2
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 01, 2010, 06:47:49 PM


I'll be in for a month
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on March 01, 2010, 07:11:45 PM
I wouldn't feel right about that but thanks for the offer.
We weren't asking how you felt about it.  Sorry BE, that's just the way I am.  Put me in for 3 months worth.

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: maddafinga on March 01, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
Am I the only one that is too dumb to understand this?  Or is it just confusing :)

I believe what he means is that the really really good guys need us lesser skilled guys to fight and beat andto keep them interested.  That's how I read it anyway.  If they only had straight noobs to pick on, well that just couldn't keep their interest or skill level up, but guys like us can give them enough of a fight to keep them sharp and wanting more, without really putting them in serious danger of losing.  That's how I read it. 

I feel good about that, because I feel like that post right there elevates me to the middle skill level tier from the bottom ones!  Hehe. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 01, 2010, 07:23:01 PM
Well if an ex-pig is gunna throw down a month.......I am too :devil :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2010, 07:26:47 PM
As way of thanks for setting up this tourney I would be willing to contribute to paying your sub BE, would 11 other people pay a month each with me to buy Baldy a years sub?


in

I can do two months if I can get to call redo  :lol

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 07:44:56 PM
I believe what he means is that the really really good guys need us lesser skilled guys to fight and beat andto keep them interested.  That's how I read it anyway.  If they only had straight noobs to pick on, well that just couldn't keep their interest or skill level up, but guys like us can give them enough of a fight to keep them sharp and wanting more, without really putting them in serious danger of losing.  That's how I read it. 

I feel good about that, because I feel like that post right there elevates me to the middle skill level tier from the bottom ones!  Hehe. 

I take it as an insult!  I own half you n00bs  :devil
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 01, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
I wouldn't feel right about that but thanks for the offer.

to receive is to know the joy of giving :)

Please do accept our offer, it would make us feel like better people than we really are.  :devil

We weren't asking how you felt about it.  Sorry BE, that's just the way I am.  Put me in for 3 months worth.



what he said ^  You dont get a choice in this, let us give something back please
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 01, 2010, 07:59:59 PM
yes madda...that be what I was getting at...I think 5 times faster than I type, so there is probably one or two words that could have been added so as not to confuse those who haven't learned to read between the lines yet  :D


and I here by scrub your name from the post banshee
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 08:05:22 PM
and I here by scrub your name from the post banshee

Pffft, who cares.  I haven't played in over 2 weeks...I prolly can't even get off the runway
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on March 01, 2010, 10:11:30 PM
SunsFan vs. JB11

FM2 - JB11    http://www.mediafire.com/?w2mtjltvdmz
Ki-61 - JB11   http://www.mediafire.com/?wwazwmuajgu

Very nice flying SunsFan.  An absolute blast!  :rock

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on March 01, 2010, 10:16:18 PM
Doug,
Thanks for being patient with me, at least the duel ended with a joystick in my hands. I wish after a week of waiting I could have given you a run for your money a little better. As it was I spent most of the day working out software issues and trying to get the G940 to interface right with AH2. I had hoped to make a day of it trying to get some practice in but you know what they say about the best laid plans.

akELFY   P-51D
Strip      Hurricane Mk IIC (I think connection issue on DOUG's end had something to do with that.)
akELFY   109F4

I know with my old setup the fights would have most likely have been very hotly contested. As it was I blacked out twice in the Hurricane and almost compressed the 109F4 from inexperience with that plane. I was finally starting to "get it" in the scissors near the end, as you had a much better position it was to no avail though. In the end I think the pedals will make me better but they definitely hurt me today. I look forward to meeting you again once I get the feel for them.....

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on March 01, 2010, 10:21:31 PM
I would post the films but trying not to auger taking off was one of the brighter moments.

 :uhoh :rock

Strip
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: maddafinga on March 01, 2010, 10:45:09 PM
I take it as an insult!  I own half you n00bs  :devil

Heh, well probably so!  I've never actually fought you though, so I can't be sure yet...

Plus, I'm working hard to get better all the time. So there  :P
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2010, 10:56:05 PM
Heh, well probably so!  I've never actually fought you though, so I can't be sure yet...

Plus, I'm working hard to get better all the time. So there  :P

I just get lucky every now and then  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 01, 2010, 11:16:05 PM
So the final QF round is set.  It's:

akELFY
Bf 109G-2
cactus
 

Good luck to all.


BTW, even though films are being posted the loser still needs to post to confirm the loss (JB11/sunsfan) or I have to make the review committee actually work again.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: WldThing on March 02, 2010, 02:07:26 AM
O my I want in on this!   :cool: :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 02, 2010, 05:28:46 AM
Bruv and I are setting something up.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 02, 2010, 08:37:44 AM
SunsFan vs. JB11

FM2 - JB11    http://www.mediafire.com/?w2mtjltvdmz
Ki-61 - JB11   http://www.mediafire.com/?wwazwmuajgu

Very nice flying SunsFan.  An absolute blast!  :rock

 :salute 11
:salute Those were intense to say the least.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 02, 2010, 11:49:16 AM
O my I want in on this!   :cool: :salute

Who are you?  Nubes are not allowed in this  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TW9 on March 02, 2010, 04:30:37 PM
O my I want in on this!   :cool: :salute


 :O
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Tordon22 on March 02, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
I'm going to wait until there's only two left before I ask to join. My odds may be better, or will they?  :uhoh
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on March 03, 2010, 10:07:40 AM
hiya cactus<S> Tried to pm ya, but cactus26 is all that would come up. I will be on most of day today(wed) and we can do it any time you wish today or tonight.
Thursday gotta go to taxman :cry will be on 4 or 5:00pm pst. Fri-sun I work undt wont be on till 630pm pst. Wed or thursday is better than weekend for me.
tnx  GL   geeze the vis outta that G2sux :uhoh    elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 03, 2010, 12:33:49 PM
hiya cactus<S> Tried to pm ya, but cactus26 is all that would come up.

cactus      -   cactuskooler           

From the roster in the very first post of this thread... that's why it's there.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 03, 2010, 04:46:31 PM

39q- bruv119
f6f - bruv119

Made quick work of me :) Enjoyed the tournament BE thanks for putting it on.  Good luck in the rest bruv  :salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?ihth1ozoyzy 39q

http://www.mediafire.com/?nmnwhwyyfk2 f6f
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 04, 2010, 03:45:01 AM
39q- bruv119
f6f - bruv119

Made quick work of me :) Enjoyed the tournament BE thanks for putting it on.  Good luck in the rest bruv  :salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?ihth1ozoyzy 39q

http://www.mediafire.com/?nmnwhwyyfk2 f6f

the 39 sucked because we both never fly it and the f6f I had a good shooting opportunity and took full advantage of it   ;) so not the best fights but we can have a proper session soon.   :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on March 04, 2010, 04:29:56 AM
WTG Bruv, unlucky Dep. <S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on March 04, 2010, 07:19:44 AM
Congrats TnDep for making it as far as you did. You beat some good ones to get that far. No too shabby for the 1st time in one of these tourneys  :salute

Wtg Bruv on your win  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 04, 2010, 07:26:58 AM
Thanks uptown and Kazaa.  Somedays your the pigeon and somedays your the statue and I'm volunteering to be the statue at the moment.  Trying to get better is a learning process and I'm fully aware that I'm going to lose to some of the better sticks  :aok Had a blast
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: MajWoody on March 04, 2010, 08:20:15 PM
O my I want in on this!   :cool: :salute

WT!!
Back from the abyss. :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DOUG on March 05, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
109g2-cactus  gf
109f4-cactus gf ,till the end
elfy
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on March 05, 2010, 01:04:19 AM
109g2-cactus  gf
109f4-cactus gf ,till the end
elfy

http://www.mediafire.com/?kmdkokywtit (http://www.mediafire.com/?kmdkokywtit) - 109G2

http://www.mediafire.com/?fmbkmgyjmhz (http://www.mediafire.com/?fmbkmgyjmhz) - 109F4

<S>
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 05, 2010, 02:55:38 AM
gf cactus and elfy 1st one was close
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on March 05, 2010, 01:41:58 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?kmdkokywtit (http://www.mediafire.com/?kmdkokywtit) - 109G2

http://www.mediafire.com/?fmbkmgyjmhz (http://www.mediafire.com/?fmbkmgyjmhz) - 109F4

<S>

WTG dude.  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: kilz on March 05, 2010, 02:11:49 PM
bummer i was pulling for you Doug. Catus good job  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 05, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
so that leaves TJ and Batty for the last quarter final?

films plz   :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TonyJoey on March 05, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Rd 1- 190 Bat
Rd 2- hurri 2c Bat

Wtg bat, blew me away again :lol

 :salute

PS, Not sure how to post films, I'll email em to bat I guess
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 05, 2010, 09:11:16 PM
You're often better than me joey. I just got lucky this time. Email the films if you want djhayze21[at]hotmail.com, i'll host em.

S!

edit: my end

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/190D_tonyjoey.ahf

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/joey_hurri.ahf
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 06, 2010, 12:04:00 AM
gf's bat and tony that 190 fight was fun to watch  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 06, 2010, 08:12:36 PM
Damn wtg batfinkv.  Two of the best pilots going against each other right there.  It's a shame that only 2-3 fights decides who moves on.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 06, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Agreed.  I think 3 outta 5 would offer more of a competition.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 06, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
Agreed.  I think 3 outta 5 would offer more of a competition.
Fight like that it needs to be atleast 10 rounds
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 06, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
Fight like that it needs to be atleast 10 rounds

I haven't watched the films yet, but I'm sure it was a doozy. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Strip on March 07, 2010, 09:46:01 AM
Perhaps we could do it like the World Series next event?

Final Round, best out of seven...

Semi and Eighths, best out of five...

Sixteenths and before, best out of three...

Or something similar? Obviously once the first duel is on adding a duel or two would only add 5-10 minutes. The biggest challenge (I fall here) is just getting that first one in.

Strip

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 10:35:34 AM
Three is enough in my opinion. You gotta bring your A game to the first fight and that's how it should be. Seven fights and you start to adapt to each other, Three fights and it's just whoever plays it best on the day.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 11:35:26 AM
Three is enough in my opinion. You gotta bring your A game to the first fight and that's how it should be. Seven fights and you start to adapt to each other, Three fights and it's just whoever plays it best on the day.

Or who's warmed up more, or who makes an incredibly lucky shot to go up 1-0.  I bet the winner of the first fight wins these 3 match duels at least 90% of the time.  I think I've seen maybe 1-2 matchup where someone won fights 2 and 3 to win.  First guns first fight, if you hit your shot you win the entire match the majority of the time.   :lol
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on March 07, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
I agree, the duels are too short.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 11:54:31 AM
What is wrong with that? In boxing whoever gets the first knockout punch wins. In football the team with the best score at the end of the game wins. They don't say 'If we had another 30 mins we would have won'.
As for lucky victories, luck plays a part in any competition, why should a lucky shot not be considered a valid win? Anyhow, if what you suggest is true, that the first fight winner will win the match, then all you will see in seven round matches is mostly 4-0 results. Whats the point in that?

The way it stands now we have one random draw. If the result of that first fight is purely determined by the random plane choice, then the loser has round two to choose any plane they wish to even the score. If then the score goes 1-1 then the other person ahs their choice of plane. So one random draw and a possible one choice plane each. Nothing could be more fair.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 07, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
I would like to see more fights and I do agree the winner of the 1rd. is normally the winner.  There was a few including myself against Phanta that I won the 2nd and 3rd but for the most part I do agree with Grizz.  I don't see a problem with upping the amount of fights and it would be more film to watch for the loser to improve and get better.  I would recommend that the first duels up until the quarters are best of 5.  Quarters and Semi's best of 7 and finals first pilot to win 5 rds.  I would also recommend that a plane can only be used for 1 rd.  This would find the pilots with the best ACM and not a pilot that has 1 plane mastered.  Given that ACM transfers to different planes but when your talking about reversals and stall performance every plane is different and I believe a pilot that is well versed over the variety of the plane set will tend to win these duels anyways.  
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
What is wrong with that? In boxing whoever gets the first knockout punch wins. In football the team with the best score at the end of the game wins.

Actually when evenly matched pilots go up against each other it's more like a poker match.  3 hands aren't going to decide anything.  It takes a ton of hands to decide anything.

why should a lucky shot not be considered a valid win?

It is a valid win and out of a 3 fight match, its value is too significant.

The way it stands now we have one random draw. If the result of that first fight is purely determined by the random plane choice, then the loser has round two to choose any plane they wish to even the score. If then the score goes 1-1 then the other person ahs their choice of plane. So one random draw and a possible one choice plane each. Nothing could be more fair.

If you win the random draw plane, you have a HUGE advantage.  Not only do you only have to win 1 of 2 fights to move on now, you get to fight in your best plane if you lose fight 2.  It's all about winning fight one.  If you win the fight in some random P39D or Bf110C matchup, then you are most likely going to move on.

Anyhow, if what you suggest is true, that the first fight winner will win the match, then all you will see in seven round matches is mostly 4-0 results. Whats the point in that?

No, what I suggest is the winner of the first fight will win the match the vast majority in this best of three setup.  In a seven round match that wouldn't be the same.  In a 7 round match, say it works out to where you lose fight 1, win fight 2, and lose fight 3 (his best plane>, you now pick your best plane again and beat him, (2-2).  Now you've seen how he fights in his best ride and he's seen how you fly in your best ride.  The score is 2-2 and you still need 2 more victories to win.  All of a sudden it becomes a lot more interesting.  Now it actually starts to become a chess game and an actual dueling experience.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 12:33:05 PM


No, what I suggest is the winner of the first fight will win the match the vast majority in this best of three setup.  In a seven round match that wouldn't be the same.  In a 7 round match, say it works out to where you lose fight 1, win fight 2, and lose fight 3 (his best plane>, you now pick your best plane again and beat him, (2-2).  Now you've seen how he fights in his best ride and he's seen how you fly in your best ride.  The score is 2-2 and you still need 2 more victories to win.  All of a sudden it becomes a lot more interesting.  Now it actually starts to become a chess game and an actual dueling experience.



The bit in bold is not correct. There is no difference by the second round in a 3 or 7 round match. It is still the second round. If you win the second round in a 7 round matchup there is no reason why you shouldnt win the second round in a 3 round match up. Perhaps the three round system does favour those who get a lucky first round ride. But, what you are suggesting, that would lead to an outcome of 2-2 after four fights, is not fair. The first round winner has only chosen one aircraft and the other guy has chosen two to get to the same score. But this competition is not about who is the best fighter pile-it, it's about who does better on the day with what they are assigned. Just my opinion, not really that bothered by all this.  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 07, 2010, 12:56:07 PM
I have to agree with bat...by the third fight I had an Idea of how he was playing the game  (teasing me) and I adjusted....(any more than three I would have been kickin him  :lol :lol :lol yeah right)...now sure a player like bat,grizz,bruv,,blah de blah can change their plan at will so for the lower tier fights this wouldn't be a problem but when you are getting to the finals these are guys who can turn fights with a snap of the fingers. The competitors could make a plane choice that offers a fighting chance not some big bore tear a new sphinc.... type and allow for a decent fight...after the random draw that is...competitor choice holds bearing on type of fight.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 12:57:28 PM
The bit in bold is not correct. There is no difference by the second round in a 3 or 7 round match. It is still the second round. If you win the second round in a 7 round matchup there is no reason why you shouldnt win the second round in a 3 round match up.

Yeah that's not the point.  Winning the second round isn't too tough because it's supposed to be your plane of mastery.  The 3rd round is the issue here, having to fight against your opponents best ride to decide who goes.  

If you are much better than someone you will dominate them regardless.  However, if two pilots are somewhat in the same ball park in skill, it's a complete crapshoot.  It's like playing 2 innings of baseball and deciding a winner.  It makes no sense from my perspective, and you are the only active 'dueler' that I see not in agreement.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
I have to agree with bat...by the third fight I had an Idea of how he was playing the game  (teasing me) and I adjusted....(any more than three I would have been kickin him  :lol :lol :lol yeah right)...now sure a player like bat,grizz,bruv,,blah de blah can change their plan at will so for the lower tier fights this wouldn't be a problem but when you are getting to the finals these are guys who can turn fights with a snap of the fingers. The competitors could make a plane choice that offers a fighting chance not some big bore tear a new sphinc.... type and allow for a decent fight...after the random draw that is...competitor choice holds bearing on type of fight.

Well if the purpose of the tournament is to give everyone a good chance then it succeeds.  If the purpose of the tourney is to decide who the better pilot is on any given sunday, it fails epically. My 2c.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 07, 2010, 01:17:24 PM
Well then how about this....The random draw plane is for deciding who picks first....the winner of the random draw plane makes first choice, this will now be the first fight of the match up. The loser from this point then gets to choose the next plane...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 02:20:26 PM
Yeah that's not the point.  Winning the second round isn't too tough because it's supposed to be your plane of mastery.  The 3rd round is the issue here, having to fight against your opponents best ride to decide who goes.  

If you are much better than someone you will dominate them regardless.  However, if two pilots are somewhat in the same ball park in skill, it's a complete crapshoot.  It's like playing 2 innings of baseball and deciding a winner.  It makes no sense from my perspective, and you are the only active 'dueler' that I see not in agreement.

it's not two rounds, it's three, quite clearly. One random draw and a maximum of one choice each. If the random draw aspect of the first round is such an issue, it would be wise for participants to be well versed in the entire planeset. Wide ranging experience should be rewarded. The capability to fly any plane is more a true test of ACM knowledge than anything else.


Well if the purpose of the tournament is to give everyone a good chance then it succeeds.  If the purpose of the tourney is to decide who the better pilot is on any given sunday, it fails epically. My 2c.

I totaly disagree. More rounds gives more chance for the losing party to succeed. On the 'given sunday' that you were last in the bracket, JB11 was the better pilot. Are you disputing that fact, and that if you had had seven fights you would have dominated him utterly? You're suggesting, using that final as an example, that you were the better pilot on that given sunday but due to only having three rounds the lesser pilot prevailed? I lost the first bracket final to moot, not because of the round numbers or random plane choice, but because on the day he flew better and took it 2-1. So I am not biased on this matter as far as I can see. I truly belive that three rounds is enough for the purpose of this tourneyment.
 If you are the better pilot on the day you should win no matter if three or seven or twentyone fights are fought.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 07, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
I beat TC (in the second tourney only because I won the first round(doras, one of my better rides) then lost the second against his main ride in the second,hog....then I picked the KI for the final which at the time I was flying it  pretty much every sortie for 2 months straight. More rounds would have made it better IMO especially if you couldnt pick the same plane multiple times in the fight.......TC is a better stick then me overall even with a hurt shoulder, i just got lucky to win round 1.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Qrsu on March 07, 2010, 03:13:46 PM
Without reading too much of the debate (sorry) I think I'm in agreement for a few more rounds in the duel: 3 out of 5, or, 4 out of 7. Not complaining really but I find it takes one-two rounds to just get over the nerves of dueling someone new and to hit your stride. I've found the extra duels after the official ones to be a bit closer and more enjoyable.

I'm also not a fan of fighting at 10k... but that's another story  :uhoh.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 03:23:26 PM
I totaly disagree. More rounds gives more chance for the losing party to succeed. On the 'given sunday' that you were last in the bracket, JB11 was the better pilot. Are you disputing that fact, and that if you had had seven fights you would have dominated him utterly? You're suggesting, using that final as an example, that you were the better pilot on that given sunday but due to only having three rounds the lesser pilot prevailed? I lost the first bracket final to moot, not because of the round numbers or random plane choice, but because on the day he flew better and took it 2-1. So I am not biased on this matter as far as I can see. I truly belive that three rounds is enough for the purpose of this tourneyment.
 If you are the better pilot on the day you should win no matter if three or seven or twentyone fights are fought.

Actually I wasn't talking about myself nor my fights with jb11, I can't even remember them hardly.  I blinked and it was over.  But if we want to use my fights as an example, how about my fights vs you?  You lost the 1st because you stalled out the spit14 at gun solution and I beat you in the 3rd fight after making a lucky shot under my nose to put you on fire on the 3rd merge.  After that we did 4 or 5 additional fights at the side base and you won every single one.  So I beat you 2 out of 3 in the tourney, you beat me 5 out of 5 at the side base, and I was the better pilot that day?   :lol oO
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 03:45:23 PM
Well it goes to prove that when it was important, you won that set of three duels. Me stalling the spit14 was my mistake, one that should be punished. I then won my choice of plane, think it was the G6. You then won your choice of plane, 190D9? You say it was a lucky under the nose shot, I say it was a convincing victory. Rather be lucky than good any day. So we were equally matched in the chosen rides and you flew better in the random draw. You were the better pilot overall in the three fights we had for the bracket, no doubt about it.

I'm just stating my opinion, it seems one that is vastly outnumbered as far as opinions go right now.  :D
I'm not really bothered if the rounds are increased, I just believe that three rounds is enough. But whatever happens, the bracket is alot of fun.  :rock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Well it goes to prove that when it was important, you won that set of three duels. Me stalling the spit14 was my mistake, one that should be punished. I then won my choice of plane, think it was the G6. You then won your choice of plane, 190D9? You say it was a lucky under the nose shot, I say it was a convincing victory. Rather be lucky than good any day. So we were equally matched in the chosen rides and you flew better in the random draw. You were the better pilot overall in the three fights we had for the bracket, no doubt about it.

I'm just stating my opinion, it seems one that is vastly outnumbered as far as opinions go right now.  :D
I'm not really bothered if the rounds are increased, I just believe that three rounds is enough. But whatever happens, the bracket is alot of fun.  :rock

No, you were flying much better than me, I got lucky.  And I don't say that to be humble, I flat out got lucky, and luckiness is valuable in a 3 round match.  Luck only takes you so far as the number of rounds increase! 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 07, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Maybe that is where the debate springs from, I think luck should be a deciding factor in the fights along with knowledge and on-the-day performance. The evolution of humans was certainly just dumb luck, I like luck :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 05:50:51 PM
Maybe that is where the debate springs from, I think luck should be a deciding factor in the fights along with knowledge and on-the-day performance. The evolution of humans was certainly just dumb luck, I like luck :)

I think skill should be the governing factor in deciding who moves on, not luck.  Skill overcomes luck as n increases.   :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: boomerlu on March 07, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
Yeah, the more rounds fought, the more likely it is that the better player wins the series. Simple math.

Say the chances are 60-40. Then the chance the worse player wins is 40% for a one duel series. If it's two duels, then it's (40%)^2 = 16%. Etc etc...

Vastly oversimplified, but the idea should be pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 07, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
I've been reading this debate today with interest.

I've so far resisted suggestions to expand beyond best of three.  As Grizz pointed out, if it's there to give everyone a chance then it's worked well and, to some degree it is.  For that reason I don't think a change to the elimination rounds will happen.  If you lose two in a row well, you might have just had a bad day, been nervous, not gotten a plane you know, etc.  If you lose three or four in a row then you were probably thouroughly dominated and most likely wouldn't return to try again.  Two losses can leave you wanting more and anticipating your next chance, three or more might leave you feeling like you had no right participating.

That said I'm not nessesarily opposed to increasing the number of duels from the quarterfinals forward but, I suspect that adding more duels will result in the same (best) players advancing tourney after tourney.  That also limits the fun for others and the anticipation of what might happen.

If I do increase the number I don't think it would be a major change.  A small increase in the later rounds is a possibility but I'd like to hear from more participants before making any changes.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 07, 2010, 07:58:28 PM
I see both your points Bat and Grizz.  In my opinion it's a 1v1 dueling braket and the purpose of this tournament is to bring out the best fighters in the game in my opinion, why else would you host such a tournament if you didn't want the best at the end.  I'm not even close to being able to compete with the best as of yet  :D but I would rather watch their fights in film then myself being in the final knowing I was going to lose.  I love watching film to see other's techniques, I do it hours at a time as it is. 

So the question at hand is Whats the purpose of this tournament?

Is it about skill or luck?
Do we want the best fighters at the end?


My vote goes with skill and yes  :salute


BaldEagl
My vote is to increase the amount of duels from the quarters forward.  I'd also like to see the duels up until then increased to 5 but I understand everyone's point and will play regardless what changes are made.  One thing I would like to see everyone poll as well is

Do you think any particular plane should be used for more then 1 rd.

My vote is that a plane can only be used once in the course of the duels. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2010, 08:28:19 PM
Another point I'd like to make regarding adding more fights...

In the 2nd tourney I had a lot of scheduling problems.  I ended up waiting quite some time in some cases.  Normally I wouldn't mind, but since the fights really do only last 10 minutes, it seemed very tedious to schedule through PMs, organize, wait and wait, and then only fight for 10 minutes.  When two pilots meet at a certain time at the canyon in the dueling arena, it'd be nice to get a few more meaningful fights in than just 2 and done.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Tordon22 on March 07, 2010, 09:21:26 PM
Any given sunday? I made it past the first round once lol.

I agree w/ the # of fights increasing as the rounds progress though. Even if just to best out of 5. If there were longer series, would anyone be opposed to a rule on repeating a plane? It would get a bit tricky when you can just go from g-2 to g-6 (or any other plane with numerous sub types) but I feel like some series would end up like this if given a chance:

XXX-Random draw plane
Zap- 38j
XXX- Spit
Zap- 38j
XXX-Spit

And I'm personally a fan of flying planes outside your 'comfort zone' in the tourney.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: boomerlu on March 07, 2010, 10:56:46 PM
It would get a bit tricky when you can just go from g-2 to g-6 (or any other plane with numerous sub types)
But some subtypes are dramatically different. E.g., 109E4 to any other 109 variant. Spit I to any other Spit variant. Those are the most obvious examples I can think of, but I'm sure there are others.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 08, 2010, 02:45:45 AM
I say make the final best of 5 and leave the rest as is.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 08, 2010, 03:22:23 AM
I say start your own tournament.

Leave this as it is. backseat organizers.



wrongway
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 08, 2010, 05:43:31 AM
Chosing the same plane twice should be allowed I think. For instance, in my fight with moot we were drawn the 109G6 for the first fight. I lost this fight but really wanted another try as I felt I could have flown better in a G6. So I picked G6 again for fight two and won it. It was nice to be able to have the chance to improve on the last fight in the same plane, but maybe thats just me. Of course, if it remains as a three round fight, each player only gets one choice plane each, so it is not really an issue as thing stand currently.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dkff49 on March 08, 2010, 07:10:15 AM
I say start your own tournament.

Leave this as it is. backseat organizers.



wrongway

I could not agree more with this statement.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 08, 2010, 08:08:46 AM
Congratulations again to everyone who made the quarterfinals.  There are no losers at this point in the tournament.  Getting to the quarterfinals is quite an accomplishment. 

Speaking of quarterfinals I was remiss in the last update in not congratulating JB11, Sunsfan and TonyJoey in joining batfinkv in being the only players to make the quarterfinals in more than one tournament. 

batfinkv and JB11 now become the only players to reach the semifinals more than once.  Can either of them become the first player to reach the finals more than once?  They've both been there before but there's no guarantees with the competition they face in this round.

In our next survivor, batfinkv, Bruv119, cactus and JB11 compete for the final two and a chance at the tournament championship.  Who goes on?  Who goes home?  Stay tuned:

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Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: DrBone1 on March 08, 2010, 08:14:35 AM
Batfink and JB  :huh GL Bruv  :)   great fights the other night Batfink  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 08, 2010, 08:23:26 AM
I agree with Grizz.  A 3 out of 5 or 4 out of 7 would have been better.  If nothing else, you get more fights out of it.  My fight against TJ came down to whose 20s hit where.  I got an oil hit out of it, he got an explosion.  In a 4 out of 7 he might have gone on to win the rest of the fights, but that would have not left any question on who was better.  The same goes if my 20s hit his head instead of the engine.  More fights reduce the luck factor.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on March 08, 2010, 08:26:34 AM
+1
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on March 08, 2010, 08:31:14 AM
I see a Sapper in the final four! It's goin' to get fugley  :bolt:(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/sSc_hiding2.gif)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 08, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
I'm thinking about this change for the next tourney:

Best of five from the quarterfinals forward with the player who is behind in the series getting to choose the next duel aircraft.  This means they could choose as many as three times consecutively to try to get back into contention (they lose the first and second duels then win the third making it 1-2 and get to choose for the third time for instance).  If the series becomes tied at any point then the loser of the last duel chooses.

Again, I don't want to make major changes as the tourney seems to be working well as it is but I think this change might be interesting in that it still leaves the door open for an underdog to have a chance while giving the final eight more duels to fight.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Vinkman on March 08, 2010, 10:05:34 AM
I'm thinking about this change for the next tourney:

Best of five from the quarterfinals forward with the player who is behind in the series getting to choose the next duel aircraft.  This means they could choose as many as three times consecutively to try to get back into contention (they lose the first and second duels then win the third making it 1-2 and get to choose for the third time for instance).  If the series becomes tied at any point then the loser of the last duel chooses.

Again, I don't want to make major changes as the tourney seems to be working well as it is but I think this change might be interesting in that it still leaves the door open for an underdog to have a chance while giving the final eight more duels to fight.

In my humble opinion, the hard part is getting the two pilots to schedule the match and get to the DA on time. Once you're there why not fight for a while? 3 is too short just from a time standpoint. There's no reason to make the early rounds fewer duels than the later rounds. Three duels can be over in 15 minutes. In my case it was over much quicker.  :frown:  Even if I had gone 0-7 I would love to have had the seven duels for the fun of it. I also believe that more duels will favor the better pilots.

So, while there has been a lot of comments on whether 7 is or is not required, I ask what is the downside? Time? 

I vote for more duels in all rounds :aok



Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 08, 2010, 01:13:56 PM
nothing is stopping the contestants from having more fights after the bracket fights...
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dkff49 on March 08, 2010, 01:18:17 PM
The thing is 3 fight tourney means that those fighting must bring their "A" game right from the begining and not mess around thinking that it really doesn't matter since they can just come back later and wipe up.

Like bat said you can have as many fights as you like after the bracket fights are over.

All in all it is BE's event and he has done a fine job with it and as far as I can tell most everyone is happy with the way it is. It's your call BE I will participate no matter which way it is.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 08, 2010, 01:40:27 PM
Everyone is going to have different opinions on how many duels, but the final result is that I had alot of fun with this tournament and I'll see you all next go around.  Looking forward to watching the semi's film and the final match up  :D gl to the remaining pilots  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 08, 2010, 01:48:34 PM
nothing is stopping the contestants from having more fights after the bracket fights...

Agreed.  Lets make it one fight then.   :P

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SEraider on March 08, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Agreed.  Lets make it one fight then.   :P



I'll agree to disagree.  :lol

Hell, I don't even know what the topic is about.  :D
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 08, 2010, 06:23:44 PM
I'll agree to disagree.  :lol

Hell, I don't even know what the topic is about.  :D

 :rofl raider it's a discussion about how many fights the duels should have but the discussion is over BE can make his own decision.  Thanks for your vote though  :cheers:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SEraider on March 08, 2010, 09:51:59 PM
:rofl raider it's a discussion about how many fights the duels should have but the discussion is over BE can make his own decision.  Thanks for your vote though  :cheers:

Crap, did I actually vote?  Im sorry.  :noid  :rofl
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 09, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
I'll agree to disagree.  :lol

Hell, I don't even know what the topic is about.  :D

It is not about pan cakes.  Stay out  :furious
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SEraider on March 09, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
it's pancakes (one word) you tard!  ;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dedalos on March 09, 2010, 09:27:42 AM
it's pancakes (one word) you tard!  ;)

Fix your language.  It is a mess!  :furious
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 11, 2010, 07:50:40 PM
Cactus vs Batfink


FM2 - Cactus
109G6 - Batfink
P38J - Cactus


Absolutely awesome fights cactus, the p38 one had me sweating all down my back.

Very best of British luck in the finals, it was an honour and a pleasure to be knocked out by you sir.

Fm2 (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_fm2.ahf)

109G6 (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_109G.ahf)

P38j (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_p38.ahf)

Salute!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on March 11, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
CACTUS!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: katanaso on March 11, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
Absolutely awesome fights cactus, the p38 one had me sweating all down my back.

Fantastic fight.  :) 

mir
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on March 12, 2010, 01:31:32 AM
Cactus vs Batfink


FM2 - Cactus
109G6 - Batfink
P38J - Cactus


Absolutely awesome fights cactus, the p38 one had me sweating all down my back.

Very best of British luck in the finals, it was an honour and a pleasure to be knocked out by you sir.

Fm2 (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_fm2.ahf)

109G6 (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_109G.ahf)

P38j (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/cactus_p38.ahf)

Salute!

Scary good fights Bat! I felt mentally drained for the rest of the day after them. :lol You had me sweatin' bullets in the 38 round.

Thanks <S>  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 12, 2010, 10:27:15 AM
Well that's one down.  Nothing against cactus but I was expecting bat to make it.  JB11 now has the only chance to be a second time finalist.  Can he do it or will Bruv defeat him?
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 12, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
Well that's one down.  Nothing against cactus but I was expecting bat to make it.  JB11 now has the only chance to be a second time finalist.  Can he do it or will Bruv defeat him?

we are still trying to tie down an exact time for the duel, it may well go off tomorrow night after the Scenario frame or sunday night.  I don't fancy my chances with the FW 190 A8.  I hardly ever fly german scrap metal let alone the flying bathtub of the bunch that is only good for HO ing and bomber killing  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 12, 2010, 03:02:02 PM
Well that's one down.  Nothing against cactus but I was expecting bat to make it.  JB11 now has the only chance to be a second time finalist.  Can he do it or will Bruv defeat him?


hehe thanks for vote of confidence sir! I'm thrilled to make it this far again. Cactus was by far the better pilot on the day. Good luck to all three of them in the last fights.

Oh and big thanks again for the third tri-annual dueling bracket BE, truly is the best dueling fun that can be had. The pressure makes all the difference to how it feels. S!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 12, 2010, 03:19:48 PM

hehe thanks for vote of confidence sir! I'm thrilled to make it this far again. Cactus was by far the better pilot on the day. Good luck to all three of them in the last fights.

Oh and big thanks again for the third tri-annual dueling bracket BE, truly is the best dueling fun that can be had. The pressure makes all the difference to how it feels. S!

If you need more evidence of batfinks dueling ethics, take look at the shots he held fire on 1:20 and 1:30.  Imo clean shots that he passed on in spirit of a good fight.  Big <SALUTE> for that.  

Awesome turn around by cactus.  It looked as if it was over but cactus sure enough edged it back to even.  It seemed to me cactus was able to do this because of his vast experience of riding the thin edge in the P38 where batfink seemed to fish tail stall a little too much trying to find that line.  Just shows the importance of winning fight one because the match WILL be decided in the winner of fight 1's best ride.  
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on March 12, 2010, 03:20:13 PM
Unlucky Bat, you flew well and didn't give up the fight.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on March 12, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
The starting plane isn't great for Bruv in his fight with JB11 but I'm stilling going to be backing my main man!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 13, 2010, 12:04:43 PM
If you need more evidence of batfinks dueling ethics, take look at the shots he held fire on 1:20 and 1:30.  Imo clean shots that he passed on in spirit of a good fight.  Big <SALUTE> for that.  

Awesome turn around by cactus.  It looked as if it was over but cactus sure enough edged it back to even.  It seemed to me cactus was able to do this because of his vast experience of riding the thin edge in the P38 where batfink seemed to fish tail stall a little too much trying to find that line.  Just shows the importance of winning fight one because the match WILL be decided in the winner of fight 1's best ride.  
5 rounds needed for next tourney :rock 10 for finals
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: grizz441 on March 13, 2010, 12:13:02 PM
5 rounds needed for next tourney :rock 10 for finals

Heh, I would be down for that, but you need to have an odd number of rounds.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 13, 2010, 12:19:57 PM
3 rounds ftw! no more no less

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 13, 2010, 02:23:42 PM

190 A8  :  JB11
Spit 8 :  Bruv119
P47D11 :  JB11

Good luck in the final bud  ~S~
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SPKmes on March 13, 2010, 09:44:24 PM
I'm not sure but I think it might pay to hold off on the fights till a few more patches are added...It seems there are some issues with the WWII FM and damage models...not sure but there are a few anomalies with them at the moment.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ACE on March 14, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
190 A8  :  JB11
Spit 8 :  Bruv119
P47D11 :  JB11

Good luck in the final bud  ~S~
Can't wait to see the films :D

Sorry Bruv.
Wtg 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 14, 2010, 06:35:07 PM
Good Job JB tough luck Bruv, either of you have films  :D GL in finals JB
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on March 14, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
Bruv119 vs. JB11:

Fw 190A-8  JB11  http://www.mediafire.com/?zykjzmdznwn
Spitfire VIII  Bruv119  http://www.mediafire.com/?ngytzy4zwdv
P-47D-11  JB11  http://www.mediafire.com/?mzanqytymjn

Ty Bruv, simply superb flying my friend!

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 14, 2010, 11:50:47 PM
gf's JB and Bruv those fights could have went either way  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: ACE on March 15, 2010, 08:35:03 AM
Good fights <S>

 -Spektor
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 15, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Here we are at the final week of the third tournament.  Congratulations to both cactus and JB11 for getting to this point and a special recognition to JB11 for being the only player to make the finals twice.

This weeks assigned plane will be the Sopwith Camel... lol... just kidding.

There's really not much for me to say this week so here's the updated bracket.  Congratulations and good luck.

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-14.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-14.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: waystin2 on March 15, 2010, 09:51:03 AM
Biting my nails.  Gonna be a heck of a final fight.  Good luck gentlemen!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kazaa on March 15, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
Bruv, how you didn't put away that P47 round I'll never know. :lol

Like Dep said, "both fights could have gone either way"
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Bruv119 on March 15, 2010, 03:37:45 PM
Bruv, how you didn't put away that P47 round I'll never know. :lol

Like Dep said, "both fights could have gone either way"

I only managed wing shots on both my attempts JB nailed my stab in his attempt.  Good flying never killed an enemy yet!  (ok some exceptions i know  :D)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on March 16, 2010, 10:34:44 PM
Cactus if you win this you are CO for a month.

That is punishment.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 20, 2010, 10:51:58 AM
It looks like they are going to drag the antipation right to the very end.   ;)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 20, 2010, 12:41:18 PM
Looks that way BE I'm still waiting for films GL you2 again  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on March 20, 2010, 10:09:22 PM
P39D - cactus
109K4 - JB11
F4U1A - JB11

Congrats to JB11 for his second victory!

A couple of close fights! I'll get the films posted later or JB11 can post his before I get to it.

Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll go brush up on that 30mm. :D

Cactus if you win this you are CO for a month.

That is punishment.

Ha!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mensa180 on March 20, 2010, 10:35:49 PM
Grats JB11!  Good on making it that far, cactus.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on March 20, 2010, 11:26:13 PM
Films

P39D (http://www.mediafire.com/?ugytfzmjyny)

109K4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?d3nqwew5ytn)

F4U1A (http://www.mediafire.com/?zzkjqz3n3jn)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Husky01 on March 20, 2010, 11:34:18 PM
Great job guys congrats JB!
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: SunBat on March 21, 2010, 01:16:59 AM
Congrats JB!  Wtg. :salute

And :salute to cactus for making it to the final. 
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JB11 on March 21, 2010, 01:58:58 AM
P39D - cactus
109K4 - JB11
F4U1A - JB11

Congrats to JB11 for his second victory!

A couple of close fights! I'll get the films posted later or JB11 can post his before I get to it.

Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll go brush up on that 30mm. :D

Ha!
cactus vs. JB11

P-39D       cactus  http://www.mediafire.com/?zdt5ljad2aa
Bf-109K-4  JB11  http://www.mediafire.com/?gkw2zjndam2
F4U-1A     JB11  http://www.mediafire.com/?ynymlkkzyz4

Needed some luck on my side in this one for sure.  Gunnery is the only thing that saved my butt in this duel.  Outstanding flying on your part cactus.  Truly kept it a notch above me in the first two rounds.  Very well played!

Thanks again BE for all the effort and time you have put forth for our enjoyment!  :airplane:

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 21, 2010, 02:07:38 AM
I'll post the official stuff on Monday but in the meantime congrats JB11.  Two in a row.  Wow.  Now that's bringing the A game to every fight.  And how about winning the final by losing the first fight then pulling out the next two.  Congrats again.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: manurin on March 21, 2010, 04:35:05 AM
WTG JB11, I'm truly impressed!  :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: mechanic on March 21, 2010, 09:00:53 AM
Outstanding stuff, truly impressive performance from both. What a brilliant idea this has been over the last 6 months, thanks Bald.

S! to everyone who played, much respect.

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: TnDep on March 21, 2010, 09:04:25 AM
At work so can't watch the films yet but a big congrats! to JB11 for winning and congrats! to cactus as well for making it to the finals.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 21, 2010, 10:09:46 AM
WTG JB11 :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on March 21, 2010, 10:29:11 AM
Congrats to JB11 for 2 in a row and to Cactus for a strong 2nd.  :aok


Baldy, are you planning another one soon? I know it's alot of work on your part, but these things are a blast! Thanks for your hard work and effort. You do an outstanding job sir.  :salute
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 21, 2010, 11:17:16 PM
Well, I'm a little early but here's my final post for this tournament.

Congratulations to JB11 on a second consecutive chamionship.  Well done!

Also congratulations to cactus on making it to the finals and to everyone who made it to the quarterfinals.

A big round of thanks to the Review Committe and committee alternates who put in a lot of effort during the elimination rounds.

As always, I will be deleting all the interim brackets from the prior tournament leaving only the final bracket for posterity.

The Fourth Tri-Annual Aces High One-on-One Dueling Bracket Championship Tournament sign-up's will begin around mid-May with the tournament commencing on or about June first.

I hope everyone had fun.  I know I did and after all, that's what it's all about.

Until next time, here's the final bracket   :salute:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketT-15.jpg)
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/BracketB-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 21, 2010, 11:23:27 PM
Is that an auto-generated bracket?  If not, the next one needs to begin with less byes.  That's just my 2 cents as an outsider
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: uptown on March 22, 2010, 09:41:36 AM
Well why are ya a outsider? The more guys that's in it makes for less byes. Jump on in there man! You have a good a chance as anybody  :rock
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: RufusLeaking on March 22, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Congratulations, JB11  :salute

Thanks, BaldEagl, for another excellent tournament.   :salute

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: MoJoRiZn on March 22, 2010, 10:28:41 AM
Congrats JB11,

when's the next one BaldEagl ?

Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: dkff49 on March 22, 2010, 12:01:30 PM
Congrats JB11,

when's the next one BaldEagl ?




The Fourth Tri-Annual Aces High One-on-One Dueling Bracket Championship Tournament sign-up's will begin around mid-May with the tournament commencing on or about June first.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: BaldEagl on March 22, 2010, 12:01:50 PM
Congrats JB11,

when's the next one BaldEagl ?



The Fourth Tri-Annual Tournament sign-up's will begin around mid-May with the tournament commencing on or about June first.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Vinkman on March 22, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Congrats to JB11  :aok

Thanks Bald Eagle for putting this on. Great fun flying in it, as well as following it on the boards and watching the films.  :aok

Looking forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: cactuskooler on March 23, 2010, 03:41:17 PM
Thanks for the tourney Bald! See you in May. :aok
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 23, 2010, 05:30:11 PM
Well why are ya a outsider? The more guys that's in it makes for less byes. Jump on in there man! You have a good a chance as anybody  :rock

Because, beginning in April, I will be working every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday from 1 p.m. till about 10 p.m..  Then, on Wednesdays and Saturdays, I will have practice from 1 till dark.  When I get home I'll have to do all my homework, etc.  Basically, my schedule is so hectic, it is almost impossible to commit to a game.
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: JunkyII on March 25, 2010, 07:26:51 PM
Because, beginning in April, I will be working every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday from 1 p.m. till about 10 p.m..  Then, on Wednesdays and Saturdays, I will have practice from 1 till dark.  When I get home I'll have to do all my homework, etc.  Basically, my schedule is so hectic, it is almost impossible to commit to a game.
Your a Senior right? this year should be sham tastic for you
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 25, 2010, 07:31:26 PM
WTG JB11!   :banana: :banana:

(poor Bruv  :devil)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: Banshee7 on March 25, 2010, 10:39:58 PM
Your a Senior right? this year should be sham tastic for you

Yeah, senior year.  All I have this semester is Chemistry 2 and Trig/Pre-Cal with a dual credit college algebra class.  My Marketing 2 class has no homework.  It's the practice and work that has my schedule all FUBAR'ed.  Both depend on the weather, work can be at a minute's notice, practice lasts til dark (which leaves night time to do homework), work is usually from 1-10ish...just not enough free time to make any commitments to this game.  But, hey, I made those decisions  :)
Title: Re: Third Tri-Annual Dueling Braket & Results
Post by: IrishOne on April 23, 2010, 07:30:32 PM
grats JB11, great fights bro  :salute