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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 230G on July 28, 2010, 05:53:03 PM
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Anyone seen these $500 systems? Will they work for AH2? If not, explain!
1) http://www.hardware-revolution.com/500-gaming-computer-2/
2) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-gpu-overclock,2659.html
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3)CPU AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition $69
Motherboard Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 $70
Memory Crucial 2x1GB DDR2-800 $23
Graphics Radeon HD 4770 $100
Hard drive Seagate 7200.11 160GB $39
Optical Drive Sony Optiarc AD-7200S $22
Case Cooler Master 534 $74
Power Supply Cooler Master 460 (Included with case)
Operating system Windows Vista Home Premium OEM $97
Total $494
Thanks,
230G
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It'll run AH but don't expect any type of stellar performance out of it. You may want to also increase the amount of RAM if the motherboard allows it. 2 gigs is the minimum needed to run Vista.
ack-ack
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Get it, buy a copy of either XP or Win 7, wipe vista off and reload from scratch.
You'll have a better system.
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When you have more monies invested in the case then the memory do not expect to much.
TD
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Get it, buy a copy of either XP or Win 7, wipe vista off and reload from scratch.
You'll have a better system.
YES. I'm running XP on this 7 year old system. What I've seen of Vista, I want NO part of it. Whatever I buy and assemble, it'll for sure have Windows 7. And actually, I have no plans to build any one of these systems verbatim, but maybe use them as a sort of basis. TilDeath has spec'ed me a system. He's as nice a guy as everybody said. Thanks a million for your help, Rich!
230G
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that foxconn board is old but the newest bios (July 2, 2010)-
will support even the newest AMD Phenom II four and six-core processors.
what resolution do you plan to play at?
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For $2 more on the OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=368&name=Operating-Systems
Good luck finding some of those parts at some of those prices
but
without doing a ton of research
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148316
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor ADX250OCGQBOX $62.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
ASRock 770 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $74.99 Original Price: $89.99 You Save: $15.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157195
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
or
Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KHX6400D2K2/2G $47.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134012
XFX HD-555X-ZNF2 Radeon HD 5550 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150492
Broadway Com Corp 712-4HLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811162011
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
Totals (rounded up)
Including OS
W/4 gig memory $503.00
W/2 gig memory $453.00
Course you can save more the more of your old parts you can use, Case CD rom drive etc
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what resolution do you plan to play at?
:headscratch: No idea. Suggestion?
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:headscratch: No idea. Suggestion?
You could run native resolution at 512 textures with that video card. Just keep the system running lean and clean.
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wait a couple of months, save about $300 more dollars and buy a computer that will play ah full blast. I bought mine one part at a time as I could afford it, reusing some parts from my old puter. sometimes its better to wait, than to buy something you may not like.
semp
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The 5770 rips this game apart...you'll love it.
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The 5770 rips this game apart...you'll love it.
how about w/out xfire spikes?
what are the FPS? thanks. :aok
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how about w/out xfire spikes?
what are the FPS? thanks. :aok
Still the same...60 solid w/o shadowing (I personally don't like it anyway) with slight dips into the 56-57's in massive furballs. Then again me res is only 1440x900.
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Obvious there are other bottle necks on the cheap system but as far as cards go, that Radeon 4770 is more than enough to run AH at full blast with 1024 hi-res textures. The old gaming rig I use for AH has an AGP 4670 installed on it and runs AH at full settings using 1024 textures at a steady 59fps.
ack-ack
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A 4850 would be another card to look into, the downfall is, it will not be direct x 11. Depending on what the PC will be used for and future palnning that issue may not matter.
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EVGA 01G-P3-1246-LR GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Weekend savings, while supplies last
Original Price: $109.99
You Save: $15.00
$94.99
($59.99 after $35.00 Mail-In Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130542
For $60 seems like a decent deal but there is only a few hours left on the above.
also available But not nearly the rush on
EVGA 01G-P3-1226-LR GeForce GT 220 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$79.99
($44.99 after $35.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130522
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also available But not nearly the rush on
EVGA 01G-P3-1226-LR GeForce GT 220 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$79.99
($44.99 after $35.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130522
I really wouldn't recommend the GT 220. It's one of the weakest modern GPUs available - and way over priced.
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I really wouldn't recommend the GT 220. It's one of the weakest modern GPUs available - and way over priced.
Agreed +1. The 9800 GT's are stronger then this card.
My $0.01
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I really wouldn't recommend the GT 220. It's one of the weakest modern GPUs available - and way over priced.
for $45? (after rebate)
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Think i would go for a 4850 before a 240, theres 4850's for sale, around a hundred dollars if you shop for a sale.(brand name card)
my.02 cents for what its worth.
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Here is what I would build comes out to 721.47 less rebates if any.
Case: NZXT M59 - 001BK
Motherboard: GA-EP43T-UD3L
CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Video Card: EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB
PSU: CMPSU-650TX
Hard Disk: HD103SJ 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s
DVD: Any 20 ~ 25 will do
Totals about $750.00 to do it yourself
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NZXT M59 - 001BK
I have read if a person uses both exhaust fans on top then there is not enough room for a optical drive on the top. A person would have to use the second tray down from the top if 2 fans are used. I was looking at that case at one time and have read this from more then 1 review. I would guess if only 1 fan is used then the top most tray can be used. Not a big drawback , just FYI.
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NZXT M59 - 001BK
I have read if a person uses both exhaust fans on top then there is not enough room for a optical drive on the top. A person would have to use the second tray down from the top if 2 fans are used. I was looking at that case at one time and have read this from more then 1 review. I would guess if only 1 fan is used then the top most tray can be used. Not a big drawback , just FYI.
I have built about 20 systems in that case. You can use a fan controller in the first bay or leave it empty. Its not a enough of a downfall of the case to mot use it. It comes with more fans that most others in its price range. Extremely easy to build and mod in.
TD
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cattb is correct...if you have 2 140 fans you can't put a CD/DVD drive in. depending on the size of the CD drive you may be able to fit it and a 140 and 120 instead...but the same issue I had with my Lexa S - then again you can just put the drive in 1 slot lower.
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the nzxt panzerbox (http://www.casemodblog.com/?p=4244) was good. the new(white) nzxt phantom (http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom), even better.
(http://www.nzxt.com/new/images/_upload/product_gallery/IMG_7593.jpg)
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the nzxt panzerbox (http://www.casemodblog.com/?p=4244) was good. the new(white) nzxt phantom (http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom), even better.
(http://www.nzxt.com/new/images/_upload/product_gallery/IMG_7593.jpg)
:O
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the nzxt panzerbox (http://www.casemodblog.com/?p=4244) was good. the new(white) nzxt phantom (http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom), even better.
(http://www.nzxt.com/new/images/_upload/product_gallery/IMG_7593.jpg)
The Tempest EVO with no door and $50 cheaper with more stock fans is better.
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The Tempest EVO with no door and $50 cheaper with more stock fans is better.
I don't know. Define better. This case gave me a feeling I haven't had since I said "I do"
:D
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I don't know. Define better. This case gave me a feeling I haven't had since I said "I do"
:D
I hate doors on cases and will never own another. :D
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I'd have to agree I dont like the door on my Lexa S, but TD helped me out so I couldn't pass it up.
My case looks mean though. 8)
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Here is what I would build comes out to 721.47 less rebates if any.
Case: NZXT M59 - 001BK
Motherboard: GA-EP43T-UD3L
CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Video Card: EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB
PSU: CMPSU-650TX
Hard Disk: HD103SJ 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s
DVD: Any 20 ~ 25 will do
Totals about $750.00 to do it yourself
I agree. For another couple hundred bucks. Yea you can build a much better system.
I was going by the thread title of a $500 system
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A person can always spend more money for something better. Some people may not have the extra money togo that extra mile. 500.00 or close to it will make a computer that will play this game, preferably put together at home and not a prebuilt to save thew extra few bucks that can be spent on the system.
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True cattb but given a choice to wait a month or two to save some extra money. Some people might just wait, I did, I bought my puter piece by piece over a 6 month period, and it plays ah with everything on including self shadows at 2480(or whatever). We just giving choices and options, it's up to people to decide how they spend their moneu :).
Semp
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Your absolutly correct, I would have to agree. As long as the person has the option to be able and put that extra x(variable) amount of dollars in the bank and save for something better. :)
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I built one for my sister with a Sempron 140, and a used HD 2600 Pro. It runs Aces High 2 just fine on her 1024x768 monitor - for about $200 w/Windows 7!
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We put a fxf hd4770 gpu in killer91's computer a few months back. If I remember right, with v-sync off his fps went up over 1000 when he look up in the sky. For comparison bravoa8 has a evga gtx260, his fps were only around 700 looking up at clear sky. I have a visiontech hd4650, my fps were 258. My card is only one that was overclocked at the time.
That 4770 is an awesome card for the money. Think I gave $104 for it at Amazon.
Had all the eye candy turned off w/1024 resolution.
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Here is what I would build comes out to 721.47 less rebates if any.
Case: NZXT M59 - 001BK
Motherboard: GA-EP43T-UD3L
CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Video Card: EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB
PSU: CMPSU-650TX
Hard Disk: HD103SJ 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s
DVD: Any 20 ~ 25 will do
Totals about $750.00 to do it yourself
WHOA!!! Hehe TD, the above system is nearly identical to the budget rig I am building for my 10 year old. Actually, he will be building it himself, under my supervision. I am using a case and power supply I already had in my "parts bin", otherwise the hardware you mentioned is the same!!