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Title: Aces High news.
Post by: --)SF---- on July 12, 2011, 10:50:35 AM
"Publisher brings WW1 and WW2 combat flight simulator to retail and digital download centers.

Publisher Iceberg Interactive and Texas-based HiTech Creations, developers of Aces High, the WW1 and WW2 MMO combat flight simulator, announced today that they have reached a publishing agreement. The agreement will give Iceberg Interactive exclusive retail rights in Europe and non-exclusive rights for worldwide digital downloads for the MMO combat flight sim.

With thousands of players with hundreds of planes and vehicles ranging from World War 1 to World War 2, Aces High is the premier MMO combat flight sim. The boxed version will retail for $30 and come with two months free subscription for the online service, as well as bonus content that has not yet been declared.

Iceberg Interactive CEO Erik Schreuder says, "With Aces High we have signed a really versatile multiplayer simulation game that combines hard core combat flight sim elements with ground-wars and naval battles. Every plane, ship or tank that you see, represents a gamer behind their PC, battling it out for glory. With vast amounts of user generated content, a vibrant community and regular free updates, this is an addictive game for anyone who likes intense dogfights and beyond. Combat flight sim as a genre has worked very well for us and we expect Aces High to be another ace in the hole.?

Dale Addink, CEO of HiTech Creations says, ?After years of continuous development, HiTech Creations is excited to work with Iceberg Interactive in releasing a European retail version of Aces High. We hope to attract a lot of new players to an already very active and loyal community.?"

I wonder how this is going to shake out...
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Post by: waystin2 on July 12, 2011, 10:55:46 AM
More targets?  Yay!!!!! :banana:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: infowars on July 12, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Dude I feel like they've been hiding this from us.  Hmmm
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Delirium on July 12, 2011, 11:24:11 AM
I wonder when the box sets will be released in Europe, it may mean a large influx of new players in the Training Arena.

Check out the pictures that Interactive posted, looks like the 80th made their way there as well.
(http://iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/aceshigh/screens/Aces-High_Announcement-Screenshot_p38%27s.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: SmokinLoon on July 12, 2011, 11:29:32 AM
More players = good!   :aok
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Noir on July 12, 2011, 11:31:50 AM
damn, more european players with a crappy connection  :bhead  :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 12, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
"Publisher brings WW1 and WW2 combat flight simulator to retail and digital download centers.

Publisher Iceberg Interactive and Texas-based HiTech Creations, developers of Aces High, the WW1 and WW2 MMO combat flight simulator, announced today that they have reached a publishing agreement. The agreement will give Iceberg Interactive exclusive retail rights in Europe and non-exclusive rights for worldwide digital downloads for the MMO combat flight sim.

With thousands of players with hundreds of planes and vehicles ranging from World War 1 to World War 2, Aces High is the premier MMO combat flight sim. The boxed version will retail for $30 and come with two months free subscription for the online service, as well as bonus content that has not yet been declared.

Iceberg Interactive CEO Erik Schreuder says, "With Aces High we have signed a really versatile multiplayer simulation game that combines hard core combat flight sim elements with ground-wars and naval battles. Every plane, ship or tank that you see, represents a gamer behind their PC, battling it out for glory. With vast amounts of user generated content, a vibrant community and regular free updates, this is an addictive game for anyone who likes intense dogfights and beyond. Combat flight sim as a genre has worked very well for us and we expect Aces High to be another ace in the hole.?

Dale Addink, CEO of HiTech Creations says, ?After years of continuous development, HiTech Creations is excited to work with Iceberg Interactive in releasing a European retail version of Aces High. We hope to attract a lot of new players to an already very active and loyal community.?"

I wonder how this is going to shake out...


will this "bonus content" be exclusive to the retail edition only? and will the content cost $$$ for regular pc-downloaders?.....  :uhoh
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tigger29 on July 12, 2011, 11:37:47 AM
I always wondered why HTC didn't have a physical boxed version of the game.  But then again I wonder why anyone these days bothers with boxed versions as physical media is quickly becoming obsolete.  I suppose that there are still many people out there that like to have something they can physically hold in their hands... and even that.. well with memory cards and thumb drives being so cheap these days it would seem to me that distributing content on that type of media may soon be cheaper than printing it on a disc.  It'll be interesting to see.

Congrats HTC!  I believe this to be a great decision!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Dragon on July 12, 2011, 11:40:17 AM

It would be nice if the "bonus material" was an interactive training session.  PLEASE!!!!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Changeup on July 12, 2011, 11:41:18 AM
WTG HITECH.... :salute

Good for you guys and best of luck!  You deserve it!!

Changeup
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: ROC on July 12, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
Well, they are going to love the European scenarios  :D

Now, if we could do something about the Pacific theater and get Coral Sea populated ...  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Kazaa on July 12, 2011, 11:48:58 AM
http://www.iceberg-interactive.com/news-mainmenu-33/1-latest/439-vintage-wwiwwii-mmo-air-combat-simulator-aces-high-signed.html

New Tiger?

(http://www.iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/aceshigh/screens/Aces-High_Announcement-Screenshot_tiger%201-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: mensa180 on July 12, 2011, 11:54:18 AM
http://www.iceberg-interactive.com/news-mainmenu-33/1-latest/439-vintage-wwiwwii-mmo-air-combat-simulator-aces-high-signed.html

http://iceberg-interactive.com/games-mainmenu-27/436-aces-high.html

edit:  You edited your post, filthy....
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Kazaa on July 12, 2011, 11:57:11 AM
<3.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Bruv119 on July 12, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
this is excellent news, 

the need for more round the clock players in Europe will help a great deal. 
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: 2bighorn on July 12, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
But then again I wonder why anyone these days bothers with boxed versions as physical media is quickly becoming obsolete. 

Marketing. Box can be displayed on store shelve.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Noir on July 12, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
I wonder why there is no Lancaster or C205 pictures in that news  :D
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
Who are these Iceberg people? What else have they done?
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: mbailey on July 12, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Best of luck HTC! :aok

Oh, and a great choice for the 38pics  :D
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Spikes on July 12, 2011, 12:38:24 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281311_251325041561264_199438643416571_1016462_459253_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: grizz441 on July 12, 2011, 12:38:55 PM
Who are these Iceberg people? What else have they done?

Interesting, they also own marketing rights to these games as well:

http://iceberg-interactive.com/games-mainmenu-27/411-wings-of-prey-ce.html

http://iceberg-interactive.com/games-mainmenu-27/245-wings-of-luftwaffe.html

http://iceberg-interactive.com/games-mainmenu-27/355-starpoint-gemini.html
This game looks pretty cool too.  This claw from it looks sort of familiar.
(http://iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/StarpointGemini/starpoint-gemini-aw-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: cactuskooler on July 12, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
Check out the pictures that Interactive posted, looks like the 80th made their way there as well.
(http://iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/aceshigh/screens/Aces-High_Announcement-Screenshot_p38%27s.jpg)

The 80th now striking fear into the heart of Europe!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Bruv119 on July 12, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
This was on display on Sunday however it made me feel love and not fear.   :uhoh


(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Bruv119/dux2011/DSC04527Large.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
The 80th now striking fear into the heart of Europe!

Reinforced roofs are being installed across Europe as we speak. Debris collection trucks are being assigned to every major city. Fire extinquishers are being stationed outside every field of size befitting a ditch/crash.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: bustr on July 12, 2011, 12:47:07 PM
So at some point down the road do all of us current subscribers have to pony up $30.00 to get the definative version when this venture goes prime time? Will updates be included in our on going subscription? Or, will we be charged an extra fee for each update on top of our base subscription going forward with the boxed edition?

Congrats to HTC on a good venture, it is over due and a job well done.

Please HTC, now let us know if and how this will effect your existing paying customers going forward.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
No, that's not how it's worked in any game that's done this before. [Edit: at least that I can think of]

Retail or direct to digital, you get the same game with the same online content.

I imagine the "extra content" might just include the skin viewer, terrain editor, maybe some behind the scenes stuff, the hi-res pack as default, maybe including the full skins library, or something similar.


P.S. The $30 also includes 2 months sub, so that's what the money really pays for.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: LCADolby on July 12, 2011, 12:49:39 PM
Who are these Iceberg people? What else have they done?
Published a long list of crap games, Dracula Trilogy and Ship Simulator 2008 Collector's Edition included, but the best in show they have is.... Wings of Prey + Add-ons.

Officially this news worries me slightly. Taking control of 2 games in competition for the WW2 Sim market... May the juggling begin.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Fencer51 on July 12, 2011, 01:04:29 PM

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281311_251325041561264_199438643416571_1016462_459253_n.jpg)


Uh... that looks like a Koingstiger Panzer VI Ausf B..

(http://www.51hangar.net/Photos/Patton/knigstigerpanzerviausfb17.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Kazaa on July 12, 2011, 01:14:13 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281311_251325041561264_199438643416571_1016462_459253_n.jpg)

King Tiger.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Guppy35 on July 12, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
I wonder when the box sets will be released in Europe, it may mean a large influx of new players in the Training Arena.

Check out the pictures that Interactive posted, looks like the 80th made their way there as well.
(http://iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/aceshigh/screens/Aces-High_Announcement-Screenshot_p38%27s.jpg)

Now you gotta like that picture :)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: bustr on July 12, 2011, 01:29:09 PM
Krusty,

In circumstances such as this where money is concerned as paying subscribers. It is best to get everything clearly stated when this kind of news is released. Since HTC is a purely private venture, we have very few choices other than to pay or go at any given time. HTC can choose to stop accepting our money without explanation anytime they get tired of any individual subscriber. So it is prudent to politely request if there will be any change in our fees or requirments surrounding that as a consiquence of this new buisness venture.

Everyone has to plan how they spend their money to make their personal life work. If there is going to be a change. Alot of somebodies will have to review their personal plans accordingly. I'm way to old now to be afraid to ask the logical obvious questions.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
Now you gotta like that picture :)

I see the "before" but where's the "after"?


 :P




P.S. bustr, I don't think anything is changing per se. I've seen other games with similar retail schemes. Counter-Strike for example. The core game itself is still created by the original people, the packaging and details of getting out to stores, etc, is what this Iceberg company is doing. So they're just re-selling the game in a package. Everything you say is true, HTC can do whatever they like, but in this case I've seen a few games go this retail route and I'm not worried about radical changes at HTC because of it.

EDIT: I think the only change might be more Euro players. This could just be a savvy push to get more players/customers because of flagging subscriptions due to really piss-poor US economy the past years.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: bustr on July 12, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
Heck $30.00 is better than almost $3,000.00 everytime HiTech and Pyro fool around with the EyEcandy. I'm on my 3rd PC since 2003 just so I can still read shane on ch200 call people "ankel humppers" and know it's not a beer snot drop just out of Icon range.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Pyro on July 12, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
It's just another distribution channel.  It doesn't replace anything.  You can still download it for free.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: waystin2 on July 12, 2011, 01:47:16 PM
It's just another distribution channel.  It doesn't replace anything.  You can still download it for free.

See I told ya!  More targets!  YAY!!!! :banana:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Seanaldinho on July 12, 2011, 01:53:44 PM
It's just another distribution channel.  It doesn't replace anything.  You can still download it for free.

 :rock :rock :rock
 :banana:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: 321BAR on July 12, 2011, 01:58:23 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
I'm sorry, standard rules of communication on requests such as that will only be answered in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: dkff49 on July 12, 2011, 02:04:54 PM
And then only answered at all if accompanied by bribes consisting of large donations alcohol.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: M0nkey_Man on July 12, 2011, 02:14:32 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???
don't worry,the M18 will come. It has to :aok :lol
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Karnak on July 12, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???
The tank in the smoke looked like a T-34/76 to me.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: MachFly on July 12, 2011, 02:51:15 PM
More targets?  Yay!!!!! :banana:

That's exactly what I was thinking as I was reading the OP.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Shuffler on July 12, 2011, 03:25:15 PM
Heck $30.00 is better than almost $3,000.00 everytime HiTech and Pyro fool around with the EyEcandy. I'm on my 3rd PC since 2003 just so I can still read shane on ch200 call people "ankel humppers" and know it's not a beer snot drop just out of Icon range.

Who's Shane :)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Pigslilspaz on July 12, 2011, 03:26:53 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???

All I see is some swamp gas, with maybe a grounded weather balloon in the gas.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: xxIENAxx on July 12, 2011, 04:54:49 PM
That's great, more Euro players :-))
WTG HTC!!!




IENA
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Babalonian on July 12, 2011, 05:00:05 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???

*soothe*  There there, the M-18 will be along eventually to make you feel alllllll better.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: ozrocker on July 12, 2011, 05:40:46 PM
"Bonus Content yet to be announced" :noid
Maybe fresh untouched SHEEP :rock



                                                                                                                                         :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Dadano on July 12, 2011, 06:10:53 PM
Now they need to hook up with DICE and make a ridiculously good ground based fps.  :D
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Belial on July 12, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
Whats the difference between selling rights to a game and starting to advertise in Europe?  Oh you sold part of your business :eek:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: mensa180 on July 12, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
Heck $30.00 is better than almost $3,000.00 everytime HiTech and Pyro fool around with the EyEcandy. I'm on my 3rd PC since 2003 just so I can still read shane on ch200 call people "ankel humppers" and know it's not a beer snot drop just out of Icon range.

I hope the $3,000.00 figure is an exaggeration, or perhaps a sum of what you have spent total on upgrading over a decade or so, but certainly not for each graphical change?
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: bustr on July 12, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
Thanks HTC for the WORD.

Mensa, About $1200-$1500 each time I completely replaced everything. One time it was a good excuse to replace all the CRT in the house with LCD at the same time and cut down the electric bill. Another to migrate onto CH only along with the PC upgrade. Mostly keeping pace with the EyEcandy so I can't use my FPS as a convenient excuse for my ACM SUCCCAGGGEEEE.......We should be well into solid state quantum computing with wrap around OLED film monitors with TrackIR tracking your retina next upgrade.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 12, 2011, 08:04:03 PM
TELL ME NOW HITECH...... KING TIGER???

Looks like the same Tiger we have now....



wrongway
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: bangsbox on July 12, 2011, 09:00:05 PM
http://www.iceberg-interactive.com/news-mainmenu-33/1-latest/439-vintage-wwiwwii-mmo-air-combat-simulator-aces-high-signed.html

New Tiger?

(http://www.iceberg-interactive.com/images/stories/games/aceshigh/screens/Aces-High_Announcement-Screenshot_tiger%201-2.jpg)

why dont i have this skin? for my tiger 1
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: 321BAR on July 12, 2011, 10:13:46 PM
Looks like the same Tiger we have now....



wrongway
look closer. tracks are too wide and too large and also the angled armor



It's not an M-18 :cry
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: MajWoody on July 13, 2011, 12:06:34 AM
New crop of baby seals,  arp arp arp
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Pigslilspaz on July 13, 2011, 01:31:10 AM
New crop of baby seals,  arp arp arp

2 baby seals walk into a club...
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 13, 2011, 03:12:00 AM
2 baby seals walk into a club...

1 Pig walks into a see rule #...
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: crazyivan on July 13, 2011, 06:36:00 AM
Looks like the same Tiger we have now....



wrongway
 Yeah, maybe alittle, except that it doesn't.




  Crazy
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: oboe on July 13, 2011, 07:24:01 AM
Maybe the bonus content would be coupons for discounts on hardware for the game, like Thrustmaster controllers (a Euro manufacturer).  I always thought that would be smart for bith AH and Thrustmaster.

Good luck with the new distribution channel, HTC!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Stalwart on July 13, 2011, 07:26:28 AM
I KNEW there was a reason for the cheesy title music on startup.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2011, 09:32:36 AM
I KNEW there was a reason for the cheesy title music on startup.  :rolleyes:

To be honest, I thought the same thing!

Title music is for reeling in the new customers that might be coming from other genres, I suppose.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Westy on July 13, 2011, 10:17:59 AM
I for one would have paid $30 for a box edition of "Combat Tour"
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: olds442 on July 13, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Now they need to hook up with DICE and make a ridiculously good ground based fps.  :D
  :x :x :x :x


DICE I LOVE YOU!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: horble on July 13, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
I thought it looked kinda like a KV without the ridiculously large turret, by my knowledge of tanks is shaky at best.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2011, 02:49:01 PM
DICE I LOVE YOU!

DICE gameplay sucks. They don't know what they're doing. They totally screwed up BFBC2 several times because they only were dealing with the console stuff and porting directly to PC. The lead programmer assumed since he owned with a G3 that it was too overpowered and nerfed it (but you see, he "owned" with it in the console with auto aim and so forth) and the end result was it suffered in the PC export.

To top it off, every successive update they have issued has nerfed or boosted guns to the point that EVERY gun of a given class is nearly identical to EVERY OTHER gun of the same class. Somebody made a gun hitting power chart by reading the actual game code, and the individuality of the game was sucked out of it until it's now a mindless arcade shoot'emup with little variety and poor gameplay.


So I'll repeat: DICE gameplay SUCKS.



Sorry, that was a bit of a side-track, lol!

Now back to the Tiger news?  :bolt:
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: kilo2 on July 13, 2011, 02:56:08 PM
DICE gameplay sucks. They don't know what they're doing. They totally screwed up BFBC2 several times because they only were dealing with the console stuff and porting directly to PC. The lead programmer assumed since he owned with a G3 that it was too overpowered and nerfed it (but you see, he "owned" with it in the console with auto aim and so forth) and the end result was it suffered in the PC export.

To top it off, every successive update they have issued has nerfed or boosted guns to the point that EVERY gun of a given class is nearly identical to EVERY OTHER gun of the same class. Somebody made a gun hitting power chart by reading the actual game code, and the individuality of the game was sucked out of it until it's now a mindless arcade shoot'emup with little variety and poor gameplay.


So I'll repeat: DICE gameplay SUCKS.



Sorry, that was a bit of a side-track, lol!

Now back to the Tiger news?  :bolt:

Thumbs down for your terrible assessment.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2011, 02:58:39 PM
Kilo, that's not an assessment, it's a fact. They have systematically dumbed down the PC game so there is no variety to any of the weapons all the while focusing only on the xbox and ps3 ports for any balance, and not giving any real effort to the meat and potatoes: The PC gamers.

You can find many references all over the forums of several gaming communities.

DICE also has had their hand in a few other games with clunky game mechanics, mostly FPS that I have played, and the overall "look" is nice but the play (how you move, the speeds, the fluidity) is never very good.

P.S. That's why the G3 had no red dot or any add-ons until just recently. The lead programmer claimed he was owning with it on the console versions and refused to give it any because he feared it was overpowered enough. He didn't care about the PC version or the PC users at all. What a tool. All this you can independently verify.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: kilo2 on July 13, 2011, 03:05:24 PM
Kilo, that's not an assessment, it's a fact. They have systematically dumbed down the PC game so there is no variety to any of the weapons all the while focusing only on the xbox and ps3 ports for any balance, and not giving any real effort to the meat and potatoes: The PC gamers.

You can find many references all over the forums of several gaming communities.

DICE also has had their hand in a few other games with clunky game mechanics, mostly FPS that I have played, and the overall "look" is nice but the play (how you move, the speeds, the fluidity) is never very good.

P.S. That's why the G3 had no red dot or any add-ons until just recently. The lead programmer claimed he was owning with it on the console versions and refused to give it any because he feared it was overpowered enough. He didn't care about the PC version or the PC users at all. What a tool. All this you can independently verify.

I just think you are completely wrong. I don't know where to start really.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: StokesAk on July 13, 2011, 03:16:39 PM
I don't think you know this, but just recently the G3 and M14 got optic sights not to long ago also on Xbox.

Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:16:49 PM
DICE gameplay sucks. They don't know what they're doing. They totally screwed up BFBC2 several times because they only were dealing with the console stuff and porting directly to PC. The lead programmer assumed since he owned with a G3 that it was too overpowered and nerfed it (but you see, he "owned" with it in the console with auto aim and so forth) and the end result was it suffered in the PC export.
im sorry, but WHAT?
Krusty, you do realize the BC2 series was merely a test series for the Dice team to gathering information to make Battlefield 3 right? They've stated this many times in interviews. (including 1943)
One example is when they explained why it took so long for DLC content to come out for BC2. One of the dev team members being interviewed stating they didnt believe anyone would play the game passed level 20. let alone play to reach lvl 50. so they were suprised that it reached the fame that it did. Thats the reason why it was made on consoles, and ported to the PC. Battlefield 3 is being developed on the PC and being ported to consoles.





To top it off, every successive update they have issued has nerfed or boosted guns to the point that EVERY gun of a given class is nearly identical to EVERY OTHER gun of the same class. Somebody made a gun hitting power chart by reading the actual game code, and the individuality of the game was sucked out of it until it's now a mindless arcade shoot'emup with little variety and poor gameplay.
The bolded sounds  more like Blops than bc2. where many guns had the same profile/stats/recoil/etc

If anything i'd say DICE are some of the best in the buisness when it comes to keeping the gun roster balanced. The only problems ive encountered in BC2 are:

-when it first came out, the m60 was WAY overpowered to the point where people were sniping with it. Dice nerfed it and now its a respectable gun to use.
-The uzi was deadly accurate way beyond its actual rl effective range when equiped with an acog. Dice fixed it and now its not as bad.
-the community requested the m14 be alowed to have mods. Dice listened and alowed it.
-The m16 was nerfed to pretty much be a burst-fire ak102. this is the only thing that makes no sense that they've done.

Other than whats stated, i cant think of any other balancing issues there have been. Krusty be lucky that Dice actually LISTENS to its community.

It could be like Call of Duty:black ops. with the OP'ed famas/aug/ak74 madness. those guns have been practicly begged to be nerfed. and what was the Devs response to these outcries? They take slight-of-hand pro off the Famas. which pretty much fixes NOTHING.

so sorry Krusty, but as a Battlefield Vet,(1942,BF:V,2142,Heros,Bf2,Free2play,BF:BC1,1943,BC2:V) i respectfully have to disagree with everything you said.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Spikes on July 13, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
Be careful Krusty...he's a uber lvl55 10th prestige Vet.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:20:49 PM
Kilo, that's not an assessment, it's a fact. They have systematically dumbed down the PC game so there is no variety to any of the weapons all the while focusing only on the xbox and ps3 ports for any balance, and not giving any real effort to the meat and potatoes: The PC gamers.

You can find many references all over the forums of several gaming communities.

DICE also has had their hand in a few other games with clunky game mechanics, mostly FPS that I have played, and the overall "look" is nice but the play (how you move, the speeds, the fluidity) is never very good.

P.S. That's why the G3 had no red dot or any add-ons until just recently. The lead programmer claimed he was owning with it on the console versions and refused to give it any because he feared it was overpowered enough. He didn't care about the PC version or the PC users at all. What a tool. All this you can independently verify.
Krusty, the 3 TEST games were designed on the consoles (bc1,1943,bc2). the REAL DEAL is being designed on the PC.(BF3)
we got the unfinished projects while the PC gamers get the Actual game. Stop complaining.
Also, from the studies ive seen conducted, it seems PC gamers are not the "meat and potatoes", but are actually the left-overs compared to console gaming.
Game Informer just ran an article a couple months ago titled "The Death of PC Gaming".
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
Be careful Krusty...he's a uber lvl55 10th prestige Vet.
That part right there killed your sarcastic insult.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
LOL.. don't kid yourself. It was a full standalone game and even has a very developed DLC add-on (Vietnam). This was in no way shape or form a "test" game. LOL!


I'm not even going to get into it. It's not debatable. That's the stubborn thing about facts.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:30:30 PM
LOL.. don't kid yourself. It was a full standalone game and even has a very developed DLC add-on (Vietnam). This was in no way shape or form a "test" game. LOL!


I'm not even going to get into it. It's not debatable. That's the stubborn thing about facts.
Maybe you should go watch the Dev interviews, if you dont believe me.

The vietnam DLC add-on was not developed by the same Dice team that made BC2, but more the team that created 1943/moh's online.

Its not officially stated, but theres subtle hints to it being true. (the way the holding of guns are, the way the 1911 is displayed, the way the m16 is carried/shot/reload,the sprinting, The metallic sound of half the guns when reloading,The way tanks operate, and some others).
Go play BF:1942/moh's online, note the things ive mentioned, then go play the Vietnam expansion, then compare your findings to BC2. and you should easily be able to see what im talking about. 
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: ACE on July 13, 2011, 03:31:34 PM
Is this appropriate krusty:  just because you didn't like it or you found something wrong with it, that doesn't mean all of the other million players hated dice.  Just sayin carry on :)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: SunBat on July 13, 2011, 03:35:45 PM

...but as a Battlefield Vet,(1942,BF:V,2142,Heros,Bf2,Free2play,BF:BC1,1943,BC2:V)

You really need to put that in your sig so we can be impressed every day and not just every now and then...
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
You really need to put that in your sig so we can be impressed every day and not just every now and then...
I stated that more as evidence to back up my claim that i know Dice and The battlefield game franchise than as a thump my chest "look at me!" remark.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Krupinski on July 13, 2011, 03:50:03 PM
Battlefield: 1943

FTW!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Tyrannis on July 13, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
Battlefield: 1943

FTW!
+1

funniest thing for me on there is stealth-killing campers with the Japanese sniper's samurai sword. oh the hatemail from that is so funny to read...
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: SunBat on July 13, 2011, 03:59:35 PM
I stated that more as evidence to back up my claim that i know Dice and The battlefield game franchise than as a thump my chest "look at me!" remark.

I know, I was just being rotten.
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Oddball-CAF on July 13, 2011, 06:06:08 PM
I always wondered why HTC didn't have a physical boxed version of the game. 

Tigger,
   Most, if not all of the major retailers used to (and probably still do) charge publishers for
space on their shelves. So, even discounting what the poor slob has to pay the folks who
work for him, he's behind the 8 ball profit-wise. Granted, the publishers may gain from
more folks seeing the product on a shelf, but it's a cutthroat industry and flight sims,
like grognard type wargames remains a niche market I think.
 
Regards, Odd
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: VonMessa on July 16, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Horatio:
He waxes desperate with imagination.

Marcellus:
Let's follow. 'Tis not fit thus to obey him.

Horatio:
Have after. To what issue will this come?

Marcellus:
(Someone fill in the blank, please)
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Changeup on July 16, 2011, 07:05:22 PM
BRUTUS
Words before blows: is it so, countrymen?
 
OCTAVIUS
Not that we love words better, as you do.
 
BRUTUS
Good words are better than bad strokes, Octavius.
 
ANTONY
In your bad strokes, Brutus, you give good words:
 Witness the hole you made in Caesar's heart,
 Crying 'Long live! hail, Caesar!'

Insert names where you see fit....

Changeup
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: HL117 on July 16, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
They were the Parent company of the following also:


GEnie --> Delphi ---> AOL---> Gamestorm













  :devil  Jusy kidding



HL
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: Flossy on July 17, 2011, 05:12:40 AM
Now, if we could do something about the Pacific theater and get Coral Sea populated ...  :headscratch:
Change the times to the normal tried and tested time of 3pm and I for one would be in!!!
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: ozrocker on July 18, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
Commenting on BFBC2, it's a lot easier to play on console.
 How an it be "dumbed down for the PC",
when it's a tougher game to play on PC?


                                                                                                      :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Aces High news.
Post by: grizz441 on July 18, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
BRUTUS
Words before blows: is it so, countrymen?
 
OCTAVIUS
Not that we love words better, as you do.
 
BRUTUS
Good words are better than bad strokes, Octavius.
 
ANTONY
In your bad strokes, Brutus, you give good words:
 Witness the hole you made in Caesar's heart,
 Crying 'Long live! hail, Caesar!'

Insert names where you see fit....

Changeup

 :rofl