Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: spitter123 on September 08, 2012, 04:25:30 AM
-
The graphics in the game arn't that good but still pretty good. I was thinking, If possible you could go to other flight simulator companies and see what they use for graphics. They might give you some help with the graphics as well.
It's only an idea so, I understand if it can't happen.
i might have put this in the wrong forum, sry if I did.
think it's a good idea? PM (Private Message) me or leave reply on post.
Thanks.
-
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n49U1BxZ2M
-
:rofl
-
The graphics in the game arn't that good but still pretty good. I was thinking, If possible you could go to other flight simulator companies and see what they use for graphics. They might give you some help with the graphics as well.
It's only an idea so, I understand if it can't happen.
i might have put this in the wrong forum, sry if I did.
think it's a good idea? PM (Private Message) me or leave reply on post.
Thanks.
I get it, shade account. only a few posts. I smell a muppet :noid j/k :uhoh
semp
-
you actually think the competition would help??or that Hitech would consider such a thing? :headscratch:
I think AH is a good balance of graphics and gameplay :cheers:
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
-
If HTC spent some time and made all the Main arena terrains all look like Karelia this wouldn't have happened :old:
-
:rofl :rofl :airplane: :airplane: :rofl :rofl :airplane: :airplane: :rofl :rofl
-
I smell a "Persona Non Grata" in your Future
-
LOL Phatzo :lol :lol :lol
You're just not right
-
The graphics in the game arn't that good but still pretty good. I was thinking, If possible you could go to other flight simulator companies and see what they use for graphics. They might give you some help with the graphics as well.
It's only an idea so, I understand if it can't happen.
i might have put this in the wrong forum, sry if I did.
think it's a good idea? PM (Private Message) me or leave reply on post.
Thanks.
You realize the eye candy is only good on the surface. The most important thing is FM. That being said... now compare the games. Pretty on the outside, crummy on the inside.
There is nothing that compares to Aces High.
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
Mainly because none of the pretty games have figured out the FM.
-
i wonder if the OP is even running everything maxxed out to begin with?
-
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n49U1BxZ2M
:D :rofl
-
I could care less if Aces High has cool looking tree and grass it is all about game play an no other game I have ever tried has the game play of AH. Most games are like all the new action movies that come out now. All graphics and special effects with no plot or store line just eye candy.
-
I'm not very computer savy but can anyone run the current graphic settings at max and still maintain a framerate above 40? I have a decent system and turn off much of the eye candy to keep the framerate at 60. With the demands of "both" can we really have it all? Until then I'm happy with subpar eye candy, excellent combat.
Boo
-
I'm not very computer savy but can anyone run the current graphic settings at max and still maintain a framerate above 40? I have a decent system and turn off much of the eye candy to keep the framerate at 60. With the demands of "both" can we really have it all? Until then I'm happy with subpar eye candy, excellent combat.
Boo
I got everything I can turned off just to keep my frame rate in the and teens and twenties. So I don't care a hoot about graphic detail the ground and water all look like a 4 year old s finger painting to me anyhow.
-
All you people laughing and making fun. :rolleyes:
Probably a nice pilot just offering the best advice he can think of. :salute
What's your best advice or is laughing and making fun the best you can do? :headscratch:
:noid
-
All you people laughing and making fun. :rolleyes:
Probably a nice pilot just offering the best advice he can think of. :salute
What's your best advice? :headscratch:
Go to school and learn Graphic Design, Start a Game company, Develope the best Flight sim ever made. Tweek your mistakes in programing. Attract and keep a client base meanwhile paying the bills and keeping the company afloat. Then you can sleep. :aok
Go for it! :banana:
Spitter123 says "The graphics in the game arn't that good but still pretty good" :headscratch:
-
UHhh :bolt:
-
I was excited when PONG first came out. So for me the graphics here are just fine.....especially since the price to play this game hasn't changed in the 6+ years I've been playing.
-
The graphics are amazing. IT's a SIMULATOR DUDE.
-
i wonder if the OP is even running everything maxxed out to begin with?
Apparently not, I never seen Aces High with full graphics on for well over 5 years... maybe longer... until February of this year.
30 Inch screen with full graphics, I still get blown away by the skins.. Go from 1280x1024 to 2600x1600 - No graphics to full graphics.. You start to appreciate stuff quite more.
I used to always tank with NO terrain features on, no grass - can't see more then 1 mile or so? I mean it was horrible, pretty much I called it "arcade", and I didn't have a choice in it, if I turned terrain on my FPS would drop below 15 and It sucked.
I should dig into my laptop and get a few screenshots and show a nice comparison -its apples to oranges.
-
:rofl
-
I got everything I can turned off just to keep my frame rate in the and teens and twenties. So I don't care a hoot about graphic detail the ground and water all look like a 4 year old s finger painting to me anyhow.
Same exact thing here, HIGH FIVE!
(http://easyquestion.net/thinkagain/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HighFive.jpeg)
-
Hasn't HTC said that they can create graphics as good as in the likes of IL2 etc but by doing so would make the game unplayable for the majority of the customers here, and so they have settled on good (Not awsome) graphics and a larger player base?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken on this but I'm sure I've seen someone (Maybe Pyro) make this comment. I'd personally rather what they have now that a game with amazing graphics and about 100 people all in to fly with. I like finding fights atm.
:salute HTC for a great game and an unbeatable price
-
Hasn't HTC said that they can create graphics as good as in the likes of IL2 etc but by doing so would make the game unplayable for the majority of the customers here, and so they have settled on good (Not awsome) graphics and a larger player base?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken on this but I'm sure I've seen someone (Maybe Pyro) make this comment. I'd personally rather what they have now that a game with amazing graphics and about 100 people all in to fly with. I like finding fights atm.
:salute HTC for a great game and an unbeatable price
if you want amazing graphics go play world of planes or warplanes whichever one wot is spinning out. then come back and play here and see the difference. graphics look pretty good to me.
semp
-
if you want amazing graphics go play world of planes or warplanes whichever one wot is spinning out. then come back and play here and see the difference. graphics look pretty good to me.
semp
Semp,
I have a laptop only. I can't play on full settings. Wish I could. I've seen a few clips and it looks amazing. What I am saying is that we do not have the best graphics on the market. However nor do we have the best graphics HTC can create, simply because they wish to keep a larger player base over looking good. What use is a great looking game if no one can play it?
I am happy with the choice they have made. I am simply saying that we do not have the best graphics on the market.
-
Semp,
I have a laptop only. I can't play on full settings. Wish I could. I've seen a few clips and it looks amazing. What I am saying is that we do not have the best graphics on the market. However nor do we have the best graphics HTC can create, simply because they wish to keep a larger player base over looking good. What use is a great looking game if no one can play it?
I am happy with the choice they have made. I am simply saying that we do not have the best graphics on the market.
I totally agree with you, except for the "i have a crappy system only". buy a good system you cheap bastage :).
semp
-
:rofl
-
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
-
I'm happy with it :aok. I think they should focus on adding more planes n gvs :airplane:
-
I totally agree with you, except for the "i have a crappy system only". buy a good system you cheap bastage :).
semp
Much as I would love to, unfortunatly I am in the same boat as many with money being in short supply. I have enough to get through monthly bills etc plus putting a bit aside so I can go on holiday. I can run AH reasonably well, with decent settings at 59FPS so I am not complaining. This is where I am glad of HT's stance. If they bumped up the graphics to say IL2 standard (Which I believe is well within their capability) then I would not be able to fly. For this I am thankful.
Trust me, when I get the cash, I will get a good system, hopefull triple screen. Heck, I'll just for for a whole Simpit :D
-
Much as I would love to, unfortunatly I am in the same boat as many with money being in short supply. I have enough to get through monthly bills etc plus putting a bit aside so I can go on holiday. I can run AH reasonably well, with decent settings at 59FPS so I am not complaining. This is where I am glad of HT's stance. If they bumped up the graphics to say IL2 standard (Which I believe is well within their capability) then I would not be able to fly. For this I am thankful.
Trust me, when I get the cash, I will get a good system, hopefull triple screen. Heck, I'll just for for a whole Simpit :D
this is funny i have a great system but most likely next month I wont have a place for my system :).
semp
-
The graphics in the game arn't that good but still pretty good. I was thinking, If possible you could go to other flight simulator companies and see what they use for graphics. They might give you some help with the graphics as well.
It's only an idea so, I understand if it can't happen.
i might have put this in the wrong forum, sry if I did.
think it's a good idea? PM (Private Message) me or leave reply on post.
Thanks.
From what I am reading here, your saying that AH is a sub-par flight simulator. Shame on you.
<S>
-
Mainly because none of the pretty games have figured out the FM.
Agreed. I'll take FM over eye candy any day.
-
If possible you could go to other flight simulator companies and see what they use for graphics. They might give you some help
:rofl
-
Agreed. I'll take FM over eye candy any day.
Same here
-
In my humble oppion :bolt:
They allrdy have a great product.
Increasing the graphical requirments for a system inorder too run the game would be a no-no. In the game you can adjust your settings to hit the "fps benchmark". Adding to the TopEnd of that slider would be the best option provided the guys at HTC havent done this to its fullest.
Most of the posting in here has been on the topic of FM or Game Play which is or was not intended by the OP id bet. Visually the game is very "crisp" & "sharp" when it comes to details that resemble real world. You have to have a system inorder too see or feel that difference. Water Reflection comes too mind... Its Freakin Shweet!! Most players can not run the game with this setting on (i dont know im guessing here because of fps hit) however for the look of the game... I am suggesting a better computer than an overhull of the game graphicaly speaking.
-
Agreed. I'll take FM over eye candy any day.
:rock
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
moin
you cant, no other flight sime were you can fly with 600 peoples on one mape can over better grafiks. or everyone need better computers.
cu christian
-
Maybe not the absolute best on the market, but with all the options turned on, it looks pretty damn awesome, IMO. I'm not sure how people can be unimpressed with the graphics when they are like that. Maybe its just cuz I'm used to almost no eye candy, to save my frame rate.
I also run on a laptop, and cannot turn many of the eye candy options on. But sometimes I see vid on youtube or screen pics from other people who have the best graphics cards out there, and I am honestly blown away with how good the game looks when you have the capabilities to run all the options. Considering how good the gameplay is, and the ability to have 600 players on at the same time, and the fact that it allows for people of all graphics capability ranges(from no eye candy, to full eye candy) play at the same time, I think AH is doing a great job.
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
you honestly do not have a clue what you're talking about. you couldn't afford the computer hardware needed for what you're thinking htc should do with the graphics.
-
I smell a "Persona Non Grata" in your Future
Na thats Dolby hes still got a little on him :O
Calm down D its a joke.
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
If you have enough cash you can have anything. But seriously, HTCs I think does it primarily to support those whos computers/machines are still 8-10 years old. It's comming around, but they want to give time for the consumer to get caught up too.
Those who desire and hunger for the newest and greatest (and can afford it) will always continue to desire the newest and greatest.
Oh and this -
Mainly because none of the pretty games have figured out the FM.
HTC comes off as caring more about the flying aspect of their simulation more than most companies that seem to just care about just creating a (-nother) simulation/carnival-ride that they can sell lots of tickets for.
-
Listen...
I just want some sheep, again.
That is all...
-
Listen...
I just want some sheep, again.
That is all...
You didn't see them in the latest videos!?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,339042.0.html
:noid
-
You didn't see them in the latest videos!?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,339042.0.html
:noid
No, where? :cry
-
you honestly do not have a clue what you're talking about. you couldn't afford the computer hardware needed for what you're thinking htc should do with the graphics.
Please enlighten me oh great one? And how do you know what I can and can't afford? Why cant HTC do artwork like others? That's all I'm asking for. Better art work. The FM is already in place, just redo the artwork or hire someone who is capable of doing it. Our current designs are OK, but clearly dated.
(http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2012/01/full-299-26200-p_51_pre_alpha_1.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7977740962_d5d8d37e42_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7977740962/)
ahss27 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7977740962/) by 06CTS-V (http://www.flickr.com/people/37180180@N08/), on Flickr
-
Silver
As I posted earlier, Pyro (I believe it was him) has stated that he can do graphics up to that standard. Quite easily. That it is well within his capabilities.
However HT's policy is to keep the game playable for the majority of people, especially those who do not have super gaming rigs (I am one of these people). To do that, they have to make sacrifices and graphics is one of them. Have a search for the threads when the Beta graphics came out, the last major update. You will instantly see where the problem is. There are a lot of people playing this game on mediocre computers, who just struggle to play a great game with the best FM out there. If there are suddenly graphics of the calibre you posted, HT will lose a lot of customers. I certainly wouldn't be able to play.
The choice is NOT between FM and graphics. It is between Player Base and Graphics. If you have amazing graphics you will lose a large volume of the current player base, the ones who have been here and helped HT to get the company to where it is now. If you have adequete graphics (Without going onto the advanced tab) then they keep the players but have people whine about better graphics.
I'm curious if you are running on full graphics, with full textured water, bump maps and everything else that I have never seen due to my rig. If so, can you please post a screenie for the benifit of those who can't see it, but continue to play because we enjoy the game and comradeship over eye candy.
-
Please enlighten me oh great one? And how do you know what I can and can't afford? Why cant HTC do artwork like others? That's all I'm asking for. Better art work. The FM is already in place, just redo the artwork or hire someone who is capable of doing it. Our current designs are OK, but clearly dated.
Apparently your computer can handle Aces High, where my laptop in February would not handle it there are some people out there whose computers arn't new. I can imagine how many customers HTC would lose by upgrading the graphics to todays standards.
Consider the bell Curve as your answer, 20% have awesome bran new gaming rigs, 20% have computers unable to handle it - Aces High sits between around 50% which makes HTC's reason quite correct.
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
You are not entirely correct. Quality (from and aesthetic perspective) graphic design is (relatively) independent of hardware, and thus can be improved without hurting gameplay. On the other hand, adding more graphical gimmicks which strain system resources can hurt gameplay. True some can be made configurable, but not all.
The appeal of AH and its predecessors was always flight model and MMP gameplay, with graphics a distant second. Thus IMHO attempting to attract more players with graphical gimmicks may not pay off in the long run, as the type of person who values graphics first will always lose interest in favor of the latest graphical gimmicks appearing in competing games.
MH
-
You are not entirely correct. Quality (from and aesthetic perspective) graphic design is (relatively) independent of hardware, and thus can be improved without hurting gameplay. On the other hand, adding more graphical gimmicks which strain system resources can hurt gameplay. True some can be made configurable, but not all.
The appeal of AH and its predecessors was always flight model and MMP gameplay, with graphics a distant second. Thus IMHO attempting to attract more players with graphical gimmicks may not pay off in the long run, as the type of person who values graphics first will always lose interest in favor of the latest graphical gimmicks appearing in competing games.
MH
But how many more people will you gain having an already great flight model and up to date graphics?
-
But how many more people will you gain having an already great flight model and up to date graphics?
not as many as they would lose...they already had a big whoopdeedoo back in '09 when they cranked up the graphics then. it would be worse if they did it today.
since you believe you could put a big enough system together to run the graphics you think you want (which that cockpit screenshot is only showing a nice dynamic lighting effect), out of curiosity, what graphics settings are you running now and what are your system hardware specs?
-
Silver
I'm curious if you are running on full graphics, with full textured water, bump maps and everything else that I have never seen due to my rig. If so, can you please post a screenie for the benifit of those who can't see it, but continue to play because we enjoy the game and comradeship over eye candy.
Here: (Click on the pictures, then click more sizes and view the original size)
I usually fly with the environment updater two notches down because the frame rate hit on the reflection in the wing is not worth it.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/7978163729_9712d136aa_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7978163729/)
ahss29J (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7978163729/) by 06CTS-V (http://www.flickr.com/people/37180180@N08/), on Flickr
See the reflection in the wing? I'd rather have a nicer looking cockpit but that may just be me :uhoh. I will say atleast HTC is making improvements but the art work is still years behind the curve.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8299/7978165530_387104ccd4_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7978165530/)
ahss28J (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7978165530/) by 06CTS-V (http://www.flickr.com/people/37180180@N08/), on Flickr
-
(which that cockpit screenshot is only showing a nice dynamic lighting effect),
Is the lighting really the only difference in the cockpits that you see? :huh
-
Is the lighting really the only difference in the cockpits that you see? :huh
well, that is what makes the first screenshot stand out...the gauges aren't better or worse. the reflections on the glass and the shadows are part of the dynamic lighting system...
(http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2012/01/full-299-26200-p_51_pre_alpha_1.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7977740962_d5d8d37e42_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7977740962/)
are you running the hires pack and 2048 textures? probably no anti-aliasing either?
-
well, that is what makes the first screenshot stand out...the gauges aren't better or worse. the reflections on the glass and the shadows are part of the dynamic lighting system...
are you running the hires pack and 2048 textures? probably no anti-aliasing either?
Hi res and 2048 textures, 1 notch of AA in game as Skuzzy says there is no need for more.
-
higher aa would smooth things out a bit more but with the added environment mapping and the frame rate hits that the shadows cause, not even a 4gb video card could take the load and maintain frame rates with maxed out graphics settings. here's the thing, you may (or may not) be able to afford a system with enough power to handle the eye candy you believe should be easy to program in, but you would be only 1 of a very small number of people playing aces high if htc cranked it up to what you are wanting. you see the problems people are having now with hardware that would have run ah very well in 2009, what do you think would happen if everyone who has bought a new system within the last 12 months suddenly finds they need to replace their systems again just to handle the increased load?
-
You do realize that you can have both right? Graphics don't need to be balanced by gameplay, and better graphics doesn't mean gameplay will suffer. I don't understand why so many people defend our subpar graphics because of the flight model and game play. You can have both. :bhead
Because they aren't sup-par. They actually look very realistic when turned up to full. I even mistook a screenshot someone posted for an actual photo before I took more than a casual glance at it.
I mean really, 99% of what we're missing is reflections from the glass when you're inside of the plane, some actual thickness or depth to the glass, and metal of the fuselage. Just general graphics on the older models.
Now think about something; here in AH, updating graphics on a single aircraft family can be an update on its own. Do we really want to sacrafice our fairly regular content update so we can stare at pretty pictures on our monitors? No, thats why we add them in when we can, and don't make them the priority.
Now, are the effects slightly sub-par? Depends. Some are about as realistic looking as what the competition puts out. And its several orders of magnitude more realistic looking than what World of Tanks and World of Warplanes uses.
But it doesn't give you the same push-button explosions, with shrapnel flying everywhere, which is what I suspect people want to see.
If you care about explosions and shrapnel to the point where you would rather have that than new game content, then you're playing Aces High for the wrong reasons, and are missing out on so much of what the game has to offer.
-
Because they aren't sup-par. They actually look very realistic when turned up to full. I even mistook a screenshot someone posted for an actual photo before I took more than a casual glance at it.
Now, are the effects slightly sub-par? Depends. Some are about as realistic looking as what the competition puts out. And its several orders of magnitude more realistic looking than what World of Tanks and World of Warplanes uses.
But it doesn't give you the same push-button explosions, with shrapnel flying everywhere, which is what I suspect people want to see.
If you care about explosions and shrapnel to the point where you would rather have that than new game content, then you're playing Aces High for the wrong reasons, and are missing out on so much of what the game has to offer.
look up 5 posts... that is fully turned up. If you can mistake those for real pictures you should get your eyes checked.
-
look up 5 posts... that is fully turned up. If you can mistake those for real pictures you should get your eyes checked.
Sure looks worse on your machine than mine.
-
Sure looks worse on your machine than mine.
can you post some pics shuff?
-
look up 5 posts... that is fully turned up. If you can mistake those for real pictures you should get your eyes checked.
why do you have clutter disabled in flight?
-
why do you have clutter disabled in flight?
For better sheep spotting, duh :rolleyes:
-
You also have the horizon turned off.
HiTech
-
:huh :huh :huh What is a COAD? Can you please enlighten me HT? :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
-
You also have the horizon turned off.
HiTech
The "display horizon" box is checked. I read that as it is on when checked?
-
My mistake, the mountains are hiding it.
HiTech
-
Please enlighten me oh great one? And how do you know what I can and can't afford? Why cant HTC do artwork like others? That's all I'm asking for. Better art work. The FM is already in place, just redo the artwork or hire someone who is capable of doing it. Our current designs are OK, but clearly dated.
(http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2012/01/full-299-26200-p_51_pre_alpha_1.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7977740962_d5d8d37e42_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7977740962/)
ahss27 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37180180@N08/7977740962/) by 06CTS-V (http://www.flickr.com/people/37180180@N08/), on Flickr
Graphics of that level would cause me to cancel my account. Not because I don't like really nice graphics, but rather because my computer cannot cope with graphics of that quality. My system is more than seven years old and while I would like to have long since replaced it, I cannot afford to do so.
-
:huh :huh :huh What is a COAD? Can you please enlighten me HT? :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
I don't think there are enough teachers in the world to accomplish your request.:)
But per the first question.
Coad =code I.E. program with joke that most programers spelling is less then stellar.
HiTech
-
Graphics of that level would cause me to cancel my account. Not because I don't like really nice graphics, but rather because my computer cannot cope with graphics of that quality. My system is more than seven years old and while I would like to have long since replaced it, I cannot afford to do so.
I don't think it would. I am not a programmer nor a graphic artist but redrawing the cockpits to look more realistic shouldn't tax you system any more. Now lighting effects, reflections, and shadows will, but not just the drawing. Please correct me if I am wrong Hitech. I am speaking of purely the artwork, not necessarily the effects.
For instance look at the differences in just the cockpit canopy frames. I can't imagine that canopy frame will tax your system any more than our current version.
-
I don't think it would. I am not a programmer nor a graphic artist but redrawing the cockpits to look more realistic shouldn't tax you system any more. Now lighting effects, reflections, and shadows will, but not just the drawing. Please correct me if I am wrong Hitech. I am speaking of purely the artwork, not necessarily the effects.
For instance look at the differences in just the cockpit canopy frames. I can't imagine that canopy frame will tax your system any more than our current version.
You are wrong.
HiTech
-
Can you elaborate a little more please?
-
Can you elaborate a little more please?
Yah....I was hoping something like a brutal Sitting Bull vs Custer outcome
(aside....more intense graphics would require more bandwidth as well?)
-
You are wrong.
HiTech
Well, you wanted an answer! There we go! What more do you want!
-
(aside....more intense graphics would require more bandwidth as well?)
More bandwith in downloading the game.
-
Can you elaborate a little more please?
Everything (planes, vehicles, buildings, trees, etc.) are modeled in 3D; things like cockpits are not 2D graphics to make it look like you're in a cockpit. You want smooth curves, then it's more vertices on the 3D objects. More vertices means more memory and processor power. Now multiply that by the number of objects in your area that the game has to render for you.
I personally think HTC is doing a good job balancing eye candy and game requirements that allow the largest number of people to play the game.
-
Everything (planes, vehicles, buildings, trees, etc.) are modeled in 3D; things like cockpits are not 2D graphics to make it look like you're in a cockpit. You want smooth curves, then it's more vertices on the 3D objects. More vertices means more memory and processor power. Now multiply that by the number of objects in your area that the game has to render for you.
I personally think HTC is doing a good job balancing eye candy and game requirements that allow the largest number of people to play the game.
dingdingdingdingding you are a winner!!
(http://www.hdwallpapersarena.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bob_barker_retires-768476-283x300.jpg)
Sorry its just a thumbs up :aok, no car or showcase.
-
Can you elaborate a little more please?
not a programmer here, but if you think about it the answer to your question is the reason for having all those boxes as options under the graphics tab.
semp
-
not a programmer here, but if you think about it the answer to your question is the reason for having all those boxes as options under the graphics tab.
semp
Im not talking about the things in the check like reflections and such, I am asking for purely the artwork side. Like if you and I were to each draw a stick figure, what would make my drawing use more resources than your drawing?
edit: I understand a stick figure is a 2D drawing, and ImADot had the best answer yet as far as the 3D rendering.
-
Everything (planes, vehicles, buildings, trees, etc.) are modeled in 3D; things like cockpits are not 2D graphics to make it look like you're in a cockpit. You want smooth curves, then it's more vertices on the 3D objects. More vertices means more memory and processor power. Now multiply that by the number of objects in your area that the game has to render for you.
I personally think HTC is doing a good job balancing eye candy and game requirements that allow the largest number of people to play the game.
Thank you ImADot, That makes sense, I guess I just have a hard time believing this is as good as it gets when other games look so much better and don't seem to tax my system to the limits like everyone is saying will happen if HTC were to have better artwork. I guess I'll just keep flying and hoping for more to come. :pray
-
Well, you wanted an answer! There we go! What more do you want!
Something with substance to learn from. A "you are wrong" doesn't explain why I am wrong. I am not looking for an argument, I'm looking to learn and get a better understanding as to why.
Did you see those screen shots I got for you? Does it look much different than what you see when you play?
-
Whats an MMO without players. The worlds best graphics = less folks that are able to play = no one to shoot down. How fun is that?
Not here to look at my reflection in the cockpit glass...just want to fight :joystick:
And I still think the graphics in this game are very good.
AH Rocks :rock
-
Something with substance to learn from. A "you are wrong" doesn't explain why I am wrong. I am not looking for an argument, I'm looking to learn and get a better understanding as to why.
Did you see those screen shots I got for you? Does it look much different than what you see when you play?
I think you are lucky to get any response at all. From the guy that built the game that you enjoy playing. In a timely manner. If HiTech is responding from work, well thats company time you are infringing upon. If he is responding on his own time, well then that's what it is, his time. I do not think you are demanding an answer but it does sort of soundlike that. i do not think you deserve an answer as a customer, you pay 14.95 a month to play. The education you are asking for is surely worth much more and should not be demanded by a reasonable person in my opinion. Is it not a bit selfish of you to demand an answer, taking up his valuable time to answer when he might be using his time to improve the game for all of us?
For me, a demand never has a "please", and I see none given by you Silver.
I do not believe I am taking anyone's side here, I argue for the side of civility sir. :salute
I ask that you take no humbrage from my remarks as I only offer you my opinion.
-
Who cares if you can see dirt and grime in the cocpit?
The main emphasis of the game is combat, and if you're focusing on the graphics to the point that Hitech himself near enough saying its not going to happen won't deter you from arguing, then the graphics won't make you enjoy the game anymore.
Do I want better graphics? Yes, but I want updated 109/190's more. I want some improved directionality from the lighting more than I want better graphics. I want a Panzer III more than I want to tax my system with graphics I probably won't pay much attention to.
-
Can you elaborate a little more please?
Higher polygon counts take more processes to render. Higher resolution textures take more memory and processing power to render.
-
Better Graphics = Better Hardware = Higher Cost = Increase In Wife Ack.
:aok
HL
-
Zoney, I was not demanding Hitech answer my question, nor was I asking him to teach me how to code or even draw. I was merely having a discussion (this is a disscussion board) and trying to actually learn something. Unfortunately it is hard to tell tones in writing. So if I came off demanding I apologize to you and Hitech. I appreciate him taking the time to answer questions. An answer like ImADot and Karnack gave are what I was hoping for. I will learn nothing from just "you are wrong".
-
Better Graphics = Better Hardware = Higher Cost = Increase In Wife Ack.
:aok
HL
Wife ack is easy to contain with a bottle of wine. When my wife starts with the ack I simply smash said bottle over her head and the ack immediately stops. When she wakes up I just tell her she slipped and fell. Rinse and repeat as necessary.
-
More bandwith in downloading the game.
OOOOKKkkk......then why do first person shooters (Americas Army is the last one I played) require a high-speed connection (simply doesn't work at ALL otherwise), and AH plays fine on dialup with a 225 ping?
-
Thank you ImADot, That makes sense, I guess I just have a hard time believing this is as good as it gets when other games look so much better and don't seem to tax my system to the limits like everyone is saying will happen if HTC were to have better artwork. I guess I'll just keep flying and hoping for more to come. :pray
Look at it this way, in those other games they are painting a picture and laying it out in front of you. In aces high, they paint each polygon that makes up each piece of an object in front of you. The more polys, the better the detail. the more polys, the better the computer you need to run it.
The other guys make pictures, HTC makes objects and puts the objects together to make the picture. Real 3D vs a picture painted to look like its 3D.
-
The only complaint i have is that guy that follows me around with a deep voice saying "check 6!!" :D :bolt: jk ;)
-
The only complaint i have is that guy that follows me around with a deep voice saying "check 6!!" :D :bolt: jk ;)
silat?
semp
-
silat?
semp
Not that it matters just askin ; Silat a girl? :headscratch:
-
The only complaint i have is that guy that fod with a deep voying "check 6!!" :D :bolt: jk ;)
Semp??????
Lol
-
Actually its a joke, there was a new guy that kept jumping base to base and complained about this very thinb. Its hitechs voice in the original sound pack when you download the game for the male check 6. And this new guy thought this guy was following him around the game harassing him....thats why i said it, i was just trying to be funny lol
-
Wife ack is easy to contain with a bottle of wine. When my wife starts with the ack I simply smash said bottle over her head and the ack immediately stops. When she wakes up I just tell her she slipped and fell. Rinse and repeat as necessary.
Says someone who has a 5-fingered extension of a wife it seems.. :rock
-
Says someone who has a 5-fingered extension of a wife it seems.. :rock
I appreciate your concern about my life. I am in fact very happily married. We have been together for over 12 years and will be celebrating our 5 year anniversary next weekend. We have a 2.5yr old son and just found out Monday we are finally expecting our second. :cheers:
-
:aok :aok
-
The vast majority of the people who want eye candy over substance aren't the type of people who want to play AH (this is a GOOD thing).
He who desires form over function deserves neither.
-
Not that it matters just askin ; Silat a girl? :headscratch:
she hasn't been a girl since like 40 years.
semp
-
He who desires form over function deserves neither.
Brillant ! I'm in the motorcycle business, Honda motorcycle's actually. I do my best to explain that to guys that talk about what a great bike Harley Davidson makes. I'm always saying, "Form Follows Function". I personally buy and ride Honda sportbikes, a CBR600 this year because of this principle.
I've also been know to call Harleys "Reproduction Antiques" and we all know what they are worth. Since I'm up on this soapbox I have a little joke I like to tell Harley riders too, "Hey, if you want to sell your bike I understand the U.S. Navy is currently buying them, they have a shortage of anchors".
-
I appreciate your concern about my life. I am in fact very happily married. We have been together for over 12 years and will be celebrating our 5 year anniversary next weekend. We have a 2.5yr old son and just found out Monday we are finally expecting our second. :cheers:
Yep they tend to last a while even if you disregard them. I know... I had to choose between AH and her. AH had to go - I hope you don't end up the same. :old:
-
Not that it matters just askin ; Silat a girl? :headscratch:
Not since SHawk took him out to the prom.
-
I bought cliffs of Dover yesterday on the bargain table and all I can say is its a stupid piece of crap.
-
I bought cliffs of Dover yesterday on the bargain table and all I can say is its a stupid piece of crap.
I decided to skip every product from that company after IL2 - it's just clumsy and unplayable. It looks good in screenshots but that's about it.
-
I bought cliffs of Dover yesterday on the bargain table and all I can say is its a stupid piece of crap.
I love that game, it's excellent. Especially with all the realism turned up, just getting into the air feels like an event.
The only reason some people from AcesHigh probably don't like it is because of the lack of the AH stall horn.
You must master the aircraft and it's capabilities, shooting for realistic short ranges, even master the guns and their ability to twitch your plane around a little, throwing your aim.
It's alot less forgiving, I have ruined 109 engines diving on Hurricanes and such just because I feathered my prop a little late. I can tell you the sound and the vibration is an immediate RTB. :joystick:
I haven't had any problems yet playing the game, apart from it seems to need a super computer to run it with high frame rates. It's a shame I struggle with frame rate because I really do enjoy flying the game.
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576704887867493842/9D557EB385716118F4929508F8FA279A139B2E83/)
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576704887867485584/DD874FF2F4D5D15CC8A5B819246EC379A58D2A83/)
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576704887867501891/65616C2E75EA591C426D613C5A7C22D07B7329F8/)
(Your right though, it dowes make great screenshots, even from my rig.)
-
I'm more disappointed in the hoops you have to jump through just to load the game. I found 1946 to be pretty crappy too, it's been sitting in a draw for a few years now. the community are even geekier than AHs too.
-
Brillant ! I'm in the motorcycle business, Honda motorcycle's actually. I do my best to explain that to guys that talk about what a great bike Harley Davidson makes. I'm always saying, "Form Follows Function". I personally buy and ride Honda sportbikes, a CBR600 this year because of this principle.
I've also been know to call Harleys "Reproduction Antiques" and we all know what they are worth. Since I'm up on this soapbox I have a little joke I like to tell Harley riders too, "Hey, if you want to sell your bike I understand the U.S. Navy is currently buying them, they have a shortage of anchors".
Nothing like a Harley.
-
Brillant ! I'm in the motorcycle business, Honda motorcycle's actually. I do my best to explain that to guys that talk about what a great bike Harley Davidson makes. I'm always saying, "Form Follows Function". I personally buy and ride Honda sportbikes, a CBR600 this year because of this principle.
I've also been know to call Harleys "Reproduction Antiques" and we all know what they are worth. Since I'm up on this soapbox I have a little joke I like to tell Harley riders too, "Hey, if you want to sell your bike I understand the U.S. Navy is currently buying them, they have a shortage of anchors".
I have always wanted to buy a Harley, fancied a Night Train, (dont know the model number but something like XHHHDHHFHHSDHHSHHFDJJHHDUUUND), but I would only do it if I got rich, where I could keep it in my dream garage. UI always fancied a Buell as well but I stick to Honda's, after 11 bikes, 2 still owned and a Blackbird pending they have never let me down once
-
Nothing like a Harley.
+1. Not saying the performance is the best, but I doubt that why most people are buying a bike like a Harley. There really is nothing like a Harley.
-
Brillant ! I'm in the motorcycle business, Honda motorcycle's actually. I do my best to explain that to guys that talk about what a great bike Harley Davidson makes. I'm always saying, "Form Follows Function". I personally buy and ride Honda sportbikes, a CBR600 this year because of this principle.
I've also been know to call Harleys "Reproduction Antiques" and we all know what they are worth. Since I'm up on this soapbox I have a little joke I like to tell Harley riders too, "Hey, if you want to sell your bike I understand the U.S. Navy is currently buying them, they have a shortage of anchors".
That is not the best analogy for your example. I'd take a Harley's function over a cbr600rr's function to travel across the country with or just go on a two hour cruise. When I had my GSXR600 I would be ready to get off the bike after a little more than an hour. For racing obviously the sport bikes are the choice. But just for cruising around town and back roads comfortably on the street while giving their wives an orgasm on the back from the vibrations, I'd take a Harley all day. It is merely personal preference on what you want to do with your bike, not that one has better function than the other.
-
while giving their wives an orgasm on the back from the vibrations
Isn't it dangerous to drive with a slippery back wheel? :D
OTOH with all that vibration in your groin that's probably the ONLY way she's going to come in a while :cool:
-
Isn't it dangerous to drive with a slippery back wheel? :D
OTOH with all that vibration in your groin that's probably the ONLY way she's going to come in a while :cool:
You have serious hard on for me don't you? You're acting like you just found out I screwed your wife. Feel free to PM me if you really do have a problem with me. :aok
-
You have serious hard on for me don't you? You're acting like you just found out I screwed your wife. Feel free to PM me if you really do have a problem with me. :aok
Lol I didn't mean to be personal. The slippery back wheel was obviously a joke and stuff about vibration in the groin really does a man no good. Does the Harley really vibrate enough to get girls excited? :)
-
Lol I didn't mean to be personal. The slippery back wheel was obviously a joke and stuff about vibration in the groin really does a man no good. Does the Harley really vibrate enough to get girls excited? :)
I've not owned a Harley yet, but I have been told by two different women that it absolutely gets them off, not just excited. :cheers:
-
i dont know about the ones from the last 2 years with the new engine mounts but the old ones used to vibrate so much if you had a girl on the back she was seriously ready for a roll when the ride was over. old 1200 sporty on a bumpy road was foreplay...
-
i dont know about the ones from the last 2 years with the new engine mounts but the old ones used to vibrate so much if you had a girl on the back she was seriously ready for a roll when the ride was over. old 1200 sporty on a bumpy road was foreplay...
My Nissan Pulsar with the dodgy wheel alignment works too. :cheers:
-
My Nissan Pulsar with the dodgy wheel alignment works too. :cheers:
When I was a teenager I had 4 subwoofers mounted directly at the back seat. The girls loved the bass, although I didn't immediately realize why ;)
-
When I was a teenager I had 4 subwoofers mounted directly at the back seat. The girls loved the bass, although I didn't immediately realize why ;)
when I was a teenager we didn't have subwoofers, we held rusty garbage cans up to our ears and hit them with a log in time to the music while walking to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways.
-
when I was a teenager we didn't have subwoofers, we held rusty garbage cans up to our ears and hit them with a log in time to the music while walking to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways.
Well when I was a teenager almost nobody else had them either. I remember people coming to see in amazement when we played music in the city center. Back then big amps and subs were hard to find and expensive - nowadays you can find them even in mail order catalogs :)
-
That is not the best analogy for your example. I'd take a Harley's function over a cbr600rr's function to travel across the country with or just go on a two hour cruise. When I had my GSXR600 I would be ready to get off the bike after a little more than an hour. For racing obviously the sport bikes are the choice. But just for cruising around town and back roads comfortably on the street while giving their wives an orgasm on the back from the vibrations, I'd take a Harley all day. It is merely personal preference on what you want to do with your bike, not that one has better function than the other.
HL < ----- 1985 Gixxer 750 :aok --- still making me feel young!
-
HL < ----- 1985 Gixxer 750 :aok --- still making me feel young!
I have an 89 that I rode into the ground and is undergoing a painstaking rebirth.
-
I have an 89 that I rode into the ground and is undergoing a painstaking rebirth.
Kewl same here with the 86 GSXR I have, I typoed the year in teh earlier reply, where are you getting your "Quality" parts from? since I have many to buy, including fairings, many sources not sure which ones are reputable, barring they are not all made in the same place.
HL
-
My first good find that started me down the track was an engine out of an M model (1991) with a yoshimura 810 kit in it, fairings aren't an issue as it's being rebuilt as a streetfighter and most other stuff can be easily found since it's not very original anymore. Here is a pic that's a few years old but not much has changed anyway (slackass)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/rebuild3.jpg)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/rebuild2.jpg)
sorry about the quality, they were taken on a cheap cell phone.
-
My first good find that started me down the track was an engine out of an M model (1991) with a yoshimura 810 kit in it, fairings aren't an issue as it's being rebuilt as a streetfighter and most other stuff can be easily found since it's not very original anymore. Here is a pic that's a few years old but not much has changed anyway (slackass)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/rebuild3.jpg)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/rebuild2.jpg)
sorry about the quality, they were taken on a cheap cell phone.
Get back to workin on that thing. It's cool, gunna be a ball to ride I'll bet too.
-
I've not owned a Harley yet, but I have been told by two different women that it absolutely gets them off, not just excited.
soooo very true :devil :devil 94 fxr lug it down in a higher gear the engine really vibrates :D, had a 54 triumph that I chopped, the wife never rode on that one, she didnt like the idea of no shocks.