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Title: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on January 24, 2016, 02:28:42 PM
Well, it's a whole new year and .... a whole new game.  :D

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Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on January 25, 2016, 10:06:39 AM
Heyyyyy ARLO, good to see you still around. Hurry up and get well enough to fly...which doesn't have to be all that well :bolt:
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on January 25, 2016, 07:44:10 PM
I'm bout there.  ;)
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: branch37 on January 25, 2016, 09:10:07 PM
Good to see ya Arlo. Look forward to seeing you again.


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Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on February 02, 2016, 02:53:39 PM
Me too, skipper.  :salute
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Molsman on February 02, 2016, 09:46:30 PM
Well, it's a whole new year and .... a whole new game.  :D

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/modified_crewchief_zps9v8n8jfu.png~original)


I will take 40 of her with the Irons on her ya know what  :devil :devil

welcome back
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on March 23, 2016, 05:38:26 PM
COMMAND

by Tom Blackburn with Eric Hammel

Copyright 1997 © by James Blackburn and Eric Hammel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/DONB3397/BunkerHillCoverlr.jpg)

 

John Thomas Blackburn, the son and brother of professional Navy officers, graduated from Annapolis in 1933*, grudgingly served his obligatory two years in the surface fleet, and, at the first opportunity,volunteered for flight training. He was a fighter pilot all the way--by choice and temperament.
When war broke out, Lieutenant Blackburn was teaching tactics to novice fighter pilots at the Navy's new fighter-training center at Opa-Locka, Florida. He asked to be returned to a carrier squadron, was refused, but eventually wangled orders to form and command Carrier Escort Fighter Squadron (VGF) 29, and he led it during the first day of the invasion of North Africa (during which he was forced to ditch after a radio failure left him far from the fleet without fuel). On returning to the United States, Lieutenant Commander Blackburn was ordered to form and command VF-17, the Navy's first Vought F4U Corsair squadron, for duty aboard the new fleet carrier Bunker Hill. The Corsair needed to be tamed for carrier duty, and Blackburn and his crew of youngsters did that, but the Hellcat was coming on strong and it was decided to put VF-17 ashore in the Solomons to avoid the hassle of keeping the Corsairs maintained from a supply line otherwise dedicated to Grumman F6F Hellcats.

VF-17's first tour was in mid and late 1944, out of one of Munda's satellite fields. In covering the Torokina landings and associated operations, Tommy Blackburn destroyed four Japaneseaircraft, including three fighters. Even more important, his command hit the victory columns in a big way. After a break in Australia, VF-17 was reassigned to one of the new Bougainville fighter strips to cover Rabaul-bound bombers. Thereafter, VF-17 racked up kills with chilling regularity, and the innovative Blackburn oversaw the development of quite brilliant new fighter tactics. By January 31, his own score stood at seven, all fighters but one. VF-17 and Tommy Blackburn were riding high with nearly 150 aerial victories at the expense of just nine of its number lost.


§

I led off twenty of our Corsairs on February 4. Once again, our charges were B-24s, this time bound for Tobera Field. I had a newly arrived lieutenant on my wing, a solid-seeming senior pilot I wanted to check out before moving him up to lead a section, or even a division.

Only twenty Zeros and ten Tonys appeared to challenge us. On the approach, however, Ensign Percy Divenny, who had joined us in Espiritu but who already had two kills under his belt, made a really dumb mistake. Instead of opening the valve that released CO2 into the Corsair's wing-purging system, he opened the adjacent valve, which actuated his emergency landing-gear system. Once down by this means, there was no way to get the wheels back up while in flight. We were by then too close to the target to allow Perce to abort, so, as soon as I saw the reason why he was dropping back, I radioed to tell him to tuck in beneath the heavy bombers. If Perce understood and did exactly what he was told--and stayed put--he would have it made; the Zekes would never be able to get at him.

We were virtually retiring from the bomb-drop point when, to my utter horror, I saw Divenny's Corsair slowly dropping behind the B-24s. We could never figure out what happened; Perce was a cool hand, so the only theory that held water was that his Corsair suffered some sort of engine-power loss. In any case, by this time, the Zeros were nipping at our flanks, looking for an opening so they could get at the Liberators or bounce exposed fighters. Our job was to protect the B-24s, and we all had our hands full doing that, so I made the brutal decision to withhold cover for Divenny. Naturally, the Zeros--at least eight of them--pounced on Perce. As they started in, Lieutenant (jg) Earl May broke from his position in the bomber cover and led his wingman, Ensign Wilbert "Beads" Popp, to the rescue. The two got to Divenny's lagging fighter, and they did get their talons into one of the Zekes. Earl got credit for an assist and Beads got full credit for the kill. However, the rest of the Zeros bore down on them, and May and Popp had to dive to safety. A Zeke came down on Perce's tail and hammered him into a fatal dive.

As the retiring bombers were clearing the coast, six Zekes hit the formation from 500 feet above the low-cover flight. Attacking from the rear, these Zekes put in a series of aggressive high-side runs. The rear division, under Lieutenant (jg) Paul Cordray, turned back to take on the Zekes, and the Zekes broke contact. However, when Paul turned again to rejoin the bombers, two Zekes slipped in and set up a firing pass at the rear element, Lieutenant (jg) Hal Jackson followed by Lieutenant (jg) Don Malone. Jackson was well behind Cordray and his wingman, and Malone was lagging even farther behind Jackson.

Cordray gave a frantic "Close up" zooming signal, and Jackson promptly moved in. Malone, who had a long history of lagging in formation, did not respond to the unmistakable series of short dives and zooms, nor even to "Don! Don! Close up! Close up," which Paul frantically broadcast by radio. When the Zekes pulled up at the conclusion of their single firing run, Malone's Corsair was burning and falling away. Attracted by Cordray's vain warning, several of us saw Don's chute blossom. We hoped he would get down safely, but we had to leave. No one ever saw Don again.

As soon as we landed, I confronted Earl May at the ready room and let him have my fury. I had been literally sick to my stomach when I saw Divenny going down, but I had made the painful decision to carry out our responsibility to defend the bombers. I had determined that we could not do that and cover Divenny, too. It was, in my mind, a tough fact of life that Perce had been lost because he had been unable to stay under the heavy bombers. The only thing that kept me from grounding Earl was the lucky fact that no enemy fighters had attacked through the hole his departure had left in our formation.

"Get this straight, Earl. Nobody has ever questioned your courage. You don't have to prove yourself like some show-off schoolboy. You had no whoopee business breaking out of your cover position with Beads to take on all those Japs. For what? Sure, you and Beads flamed one, but you damn sure didn't help Divenny. You were lucky as hell you and Beads didn't get it, too. You know that if the enemy hadn't muffed their chance they'd have had three easy kills instead of just the one. Worse than that, you exposed the rest of us and the bombers. Our job is to get those klunkers in and out in one piece. I'm proud that we haven't lost one yet. They depend on us. This is a team operation. There's no place for some wild-ass who shoves off to be the heroic White Knight riding to the rescue. I will not tolerate this kind of toejam. Is that clear?"

Earl was angry with me--his body language said as much--but he was wrong and I was right, and he knew it. I got a sheepish,

"I understand, Skipper."

"If you weren't such a good man who's always done a top job before, I'd throw your bellybutton out. As it is, you're no longer a division leader. You'll fly wing, where I can keep my eye on you."

I was so obviously angry for the rest of the day that no one got within ten feet of me if he could help it.
My overall reaction and anger over the two losses might seem unreasonable, but both were firmly grounded in my life-long perception of how duty must come before my personal feelings for my subordinates, strong as they were. All hands--even late arrivals like Perce Divenny--knew that our responsibility was to guard the bombers at all costs.

In part, however, the display of anger was a mask for my profound grief. The two unnecessary losses were almost more than I could bear. I privately judged myself at least a little culpable in both cases.
With respect to Perce's fatal lapse, I had allowed the wing-purging and emergency landing-gear CO2 bottles to remain side by side even though I easily could have gotten Vought or even our own mechanics to relocate one safely away from the other. The potential for error was so obvious! Amazingly, Divenny's gaffe had been the first of its sort in hundreds of combat sorties.

Malone's loss was a little different, and I bore more direct responsibility. All hands knew that Don had a marked propensity to lag. Maybe I should have ridden him harder, or moved him forward from the definitively vulnerable tail-end slot. We knew that the Imperial pilots, like us, were quick to spot and nail a laggard.

Worst of all was my conviction that I had seen both situations developing. I had certainly seen Divenny fall behind, and I am sure I had seen Malone do so earlier in the mission. In Divenny's case, I could have taken the chance and gone back or have sent help, but I deliberately chose not to. In Malone's,
Cordray could have gone to help, but Paul knew--and accepted--my thinking, so he did not dangerously expose his division and put others at risk, as May had done.

These were two more painful examples of the loneliness of command. I found, after a long search through my soul, that I would not have acted differently in either case. But I had contributed to Malone's death by being too lenient; I should have grounded him when his inability to correct a long-apparent problem. It was a bomb that had ticked away--that I had heard ticking--until it blew up in Don's face.

§

Two days later, over Rabaul, Tommy Blackburn raised his score to eleven confirmed victories and five probables. And shortly thereafter, Rabaul caved. In the end, VF-17 returned home and was decommissined. In its day, it was the Navy's top-scoring squadron, with 154 confirmed victories.

The end of the war found Commander Tommy Blackburn whipping a new carrier air group into shape for duty in the Pacific. He remained in the Navy--in aviation, of course--until 1962, when he retired as a captain. He passed away in 1994.

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* Frank Glasgow Tinker, of Spanish Civil War fame, also graduated Annapolis in `33.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on March 24, 2016, 10:57:28 AM
Good post. :salute
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on March 24, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
There's times I escape the silly and express my inner JR geek.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on March 25, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
(http://www.lookingforloves.com/albums/pirates/animated%20gif%20pirates%20images%20glitter%206.png)

The perks of being a Jolly Roger aren't always readily apparent ... until you're one of them.

Fighting VF-17. A bunch of rowdy roughnecks (that take the F4U-1A seriously. No, really).
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Reschke on April 05, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
My old group that I started way back in the ancient days and a bunch of buddies that I still enjoy catching up with. Best of luck to you all and fair skies my brothers.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on April 06, 2016, 08:32:43 AM
Wil, dude you need to change that last line of your sig. Nothing is permanent.   ;)
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on April 06, 2016, 10:59:37 AM
Wil, dude you need to change that last line of your sig. Nothing is permanent.   ;)

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/facepaintarrestap_450x300.jpg)

That's what she said.

Hiyas, Will! We miss ya. (Come back!)
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on April 06, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Lol, well, maybe some things are.

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Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on April 13, 2016, 11:22:50 AM
(http://www.aviationgraphic.com/3076-4762-thickbox/f4u-1a-corsair-vf-17-jolly-rogers-pa-09.jpg)
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Arlo on April 19, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/AHVF17/2016_002_JR_RP_zps0xwmgoyc.png~original)
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on April 20, 2016, 07:07:04 AM
Nice bump  :aok
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: thundabooge on June 23, 2016, 06:05:05 PM
HELLLOOO BOYS!!! IM BBBBBAAAACCCCKKKK!!! :airplane: :airplane:
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: branch37 on June 25, 2016, 03:38:25 PM
HELLLOOO BOYS!!! IM BBBBBAAAACCCCKKKK!!! :airplane: :airplane:

About damn time.  :furious
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on June 28, 2016, 06:56:21 AM
The prodigal son has returned to the fold. Time to kill the fatted calf and rejoice!  :cheers:
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Reaper on July 10, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
hello everyone. i'm relatively new to the game and been flying around with different squads just to try to find the right fit. so far i've found one that i like, but still unsure about what squad i should join.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: thundabooge on July 11, 2016, 06:02:32 PM
Welcome to AH Reaper!  We have a great group of pie-rats here in VF17, including 3 official AH trainers (except BigRat...hes a bit sketchy..) Whats your ingame callsign??  IF you see any of us ingame feel free to wing up with us for a bit. :salute :salute
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: branch37 on July 11, 2016, 06:12:25 PM
hello everyone. i'm relatively new to the game and been flying around with different squads just to try to find the right fit. so far i've found one that i like, but still unsure about what squad i should join.

Greetings Reaper.  :salute

As you may have guessed we are an historically based USN squadron.  We fly the F4U-1A almost exclusively, but you may find us in other navy iron from time to time.  We don't have much of a main arena presence at the time, but we are active in special events such as Scenarios and Friday Squad Ops.  If you would like to know more about either of these, shoot me a PM and we can see where it goes.  And if you do happen across any of us in the MA, don't hesitate to say hi.  Although most of us have been around here a long time, we always welcome new players.   :cheers:

Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Reaper on July 11, 2016, 09:13:48 PM
Welcome to AH Reaper!  We have a great group of pie-rats here in VF17, including 3 official AH trainers (except BigRat...hes a bit sketchy..) Whats your ingame callsign??  IF you see any of us ingame feel free to wing up with us for a bit. :salute :salute


my callsign in the game is reaper89
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on July 12, 2016, 06:30:56 AM
Greetings, Reaper! Glad to see you found our Forum. As Branch said, we don't have much of a presence in the Main Arena, but it isn't uncommon to run across some of us in there. We'll keep our eyes peeled for ya, and you're welcome to wing with us anytime. We're a rather irreverent bunch, but we mean no harm (except to the red planes) :airplane:
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: whiteman on July 16, 2016, 11:05:42 PM
Ahoy you dirty pirates, glad y'all are still giving everyone hell still.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: branch37 on July 17, 2016, 12:06:35 AM
Ahoy you dirty pirates, glad y'all are still giving everyone hell still.

And you are???   :devil

When you coming back? :cheers:
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: thundabooge on July 17, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
Ahoy you dirty pirates, glad y'all are still giving everyone hell still.

Hey Tex!!  Great to see you!!  All of us old time pirates are slowly coming back home to the ship.  Hope you can join us again soon!
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Wildcat1 on July 20, 2016, 02:58:31 PM
YEHARRRRR :devil

I return from deployment next month, can't wait to get back in it with all ye pirates :D
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: branch37 on July 20, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Geez its like the short bus crashed and all the loonys escaped all at the same time.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: SIK1 on July 20, 2016, 10:16:26 PM
Geez its like the short bus crashed and all the loonys escaped all at the same time.

yea for us!  :banana:

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: whiteman on July 21, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
I might be able to sneak on every couple weekends, signed back up a flew around a bit. My controls are being wonky so I need to see what's up with that.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Badger85 on September 21, 2016, 08:14:26 PM
*bump* for a great squad!
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on September 22, 2016, 06:20:45 AM
*bump* for a great squad!

 :aok
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on October 05, 2016, 07:17:28 AM
Big THANK YOU! to Badger85 for working on getting our web page up and running: been too long gone (Badger and the web page).  :salute
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: SIK1 on October 05, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
And for those that would like to take a look. http://www.thejollyrogers.net/

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Badger85 on October 05, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
Thanks, guys  :salute

Glad to be back! I've been getting my feet wet again in the MA/OM and hope to see you all soon in the virtual skies!
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: Badger85 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:49 AM
A screenshot from tonight's FSO, where the "Jolly Rogers" scored 12 kills for no losses to the squadron. Read more about VF-17's mission here (http://www.thejollyrogers.net/community/news/twelvevictoriesandnolosses).

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y442/historybuff85/Flight%20Sim/2016_10_07-VF-17-FSO-Out-of-Sun-Frame1_zpst3tcyj1e.jpg~original)

Fly with the Pirates! Join VF-17 The Jolly Rogers (http://www.thejollyrogers.net/join)!
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: whiteman on December 11, 2016, 11:23:09 AM
On and playing on the weekends,the lady works 2 weekends then two off so some I'll be on more than others.
Title: Re: VF-17 Jolly Rogers 2016 recruiting and scuttlebutt thread
Post by: nooby52 on December 11, 2016, 08:42:08 PM
You'll be a welcome addition.  :cheers: