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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: molybdenum on December 04, 2019, 05:42:50 AM
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Was probably a good reason (but I'd sure like to know what it is!) but I miss some of the friendly banter with players I like on different teams that I wouldn't want going on 200.
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Give the "Pretty Fed Up" thread a look-see.
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Hitech could add a config file where you can enable specific players the ability to PM you. Blocked-Until-Added logic. That might solve the issue.
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I can understand him disabling it, while most folks in the game are fairly decent on channel 100, the real nastiness usually arrives via PM.
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I can understand him disabling it, while most folks in the game are fairly decent on channel 100, the real nastiness usually arrives via PM.
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The problem is that players can send direct PM's if you're not in the same country. Personally, I'm not the kind of person who will send a nasty PM to another player - ususally I use it to coordinate friends to come to a particular side.... like "OLDMAN - wanna come play with the Rookies?" and things like that. :)
I understand why Hitech did it. Some of us were not behaving properly and slamming new players via PM.
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Cross country PMs disabled. Why?
A screen shot I received a few weeks back.
(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=398587.0;attach=32012)
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Never underestimate the mental midgets that have to pm someone after getting shot down.
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A screen shot I received a few weeks back.
(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=398587.0;attach=32012)
:confused: :uhoh :O
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Yup. I assume that guy earned a well deserved muting at least. Now, does it make sense to disable it for all versus dealing with the people who are actually causing the problem and having to opt-in to receive cross country PMs? I think it would be pretty safe to say that over 50% of the people in the arena have probably never PMed something like that to another player.
I've seen a lot of stupidity on country, doesn't mean I want the channel shut down.
Wiley.
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Yup. I assume that guy earned a well deserved muting at least. Now, does it make sense to disable it for all versus dealing with the people who are actually causing the problem and having to opt-in to receive cross country PMs? I think it would be pretty safe to say that over 50% of the people in the arena have probably never PMed something like that to another player.
I've seen a lot of stupidity on country, doesn't mean I want the channel shut down.
While I can see your point and almost agree if you ever had a player tune to you on VOX and start screaming in your ear you might feel different. I think it's easy enough to just ignore a text pm but a vox pm serves little or no purpose.
Maybe with Dale disabling it for some time players will not abuse it so much if he allows it again,I just dont see a need for cross country vox pm's.
:salute
Wiley.
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That kid is really IQ retentive.
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While I can see your point and almost agree if you ever had a player tune to you on VOX and start screaming in your ear you might feel different. I think it's easy enough to just ignore a text pm but a vox pm serves little or no purpose.
Maybe with Dale disabling it for some time players will not abuse it so much if he allows it again,I just dont see a need for cross country vox pm's.
I've been on open vox chat in Grand Theft Auto Online. What Hitech posted is an excerpt from a slow Tuesday on there. ;) They give you the ability to squelch people there and you never have to worry about them again. I am doubtful the guy that sent those PMs would have anything much worth listening to in the future.
I just think across the board solutions are unnecessarily crude.
Wiley.
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Sometimes the kids just need a time out! As I understand 200 is still active so I say if you cant say it in front of everyone,is it worth saying at all?
while that may be a slow say in some games,didnt your Mother ever say "if all the kids jump off the bridge does that mean you have to also?"
Now dont get me wrong,I have used cross country PM's many,many times and it can be useful to say hello to new and old friends,but 1 bad apple can spoil the whole bunch if you dont do something about that nasty worm.
As the saying goes,this is why we cant have nice stuff...... :noid
:salute
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Sometimes the kids just need a time out! As I understand 200 is still active so I say if you cant say it in front of everyone,is it worth saying at all?
while that may be a slow say in some games,didnt your Mother ever say "if all the kids jump off the bridge does that mean you have to also?"
Now dont get me wrong,I have used cross country PM's many,many times and it can be useful to say hello to new and old friends,but 1 bad apple can spoil the whole bunch if you dont do something about that nasty worm.
As the saying goes,this is why we cant have nice stuff...... :noid
:salute
At the end of the day, the goal is to have people limit their exposure to stuff they don't want to hear, right?
I see a ton of stuff on country I couldn't care less about, usually from wannabe Generals. Last night is a perfect example. There were 4 people who were gracing us with their assessment of where we needed to be defending next, and berating the country because nobody was showing up. Repeatedly. Whether we wanted them to or not. I could've detuned 2. I chose instead to type .squelch lines 4 times. I was still able to see what was going on, but their blather no longer impacted me.
For certain one of those individuals has never said anything I have cared about since I noticed his playerID. I have to squelch him every time I notice him if he's on a roll.
As far as the kids, I am responsible for my own conduct. They should be too. If you get 100 random people together online odds are pretty good at least a couple of them are going to be loud and not nice people.
I've been chewed out on vox by people on my side for not clearing their appallingly bad drag well enough a lot more times than I've gotten rage PMs for whatever reason. That's an individual problem, not something an entire side should be penalized for.
Wiley.
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I guess I dont see it as limiting what one hears or is exposed to,more along the lines of stopping the abuse. Would you not agree the SS Dale posted was abusive?
And ya I hear you I squelch certain players also,mostly on my country because some just dont know when to be quite. That said my main concern is the vox pms,it's easy enough to ignore text and I usually do but saying just use squelch doesnt stop a player from tuning to you and screaming until after the fact.
Now I'm not sure how difficult it would be to coad but having PM's act like a join request may solve the issue,you just cant jump in someones plane without them giving you the ok first. Want to send me a pm,I get a little check box popup to say yes or no...simple solution that would work for both text and vox.
My kid plays GTA,I've seen how offensive it can be, personally I dont think it needs to be like that but hey the whole game is offensive IMHO.
In the end,you're my friend Wiley so it's not personal.
:salute
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Now I'm not sure how difficult it would be to coad but having PM's act like a join request may solve the issue,you just cant jump in someones plane without them giving you the ok first. Want to send me a pm,I get a little check box popup to say yes or no...simple solution that would work for both text and vox.
That's exactly what I think should be done. Give the players the tools to hear/see what they want, and not see what they don't more than once from a source. It's an online game, there will always always always be people that you don't want to hear from/are abusive. Unless they start doing a psychiatric check on the people before they give them an account, and I don't think 2/3 of the population of the game would be classified sane in the second place. ;)
In the end,you're my friend Wiley so it's not personal.
:salute
One of the things I wish I could wave a wand and get rid of is the way people get nettled online if you don't 100% agree with them (not saying you at all Morf). No offense taken, my friends don't have to agree with everything I think. :) :salute
Wiley.
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So we agree! :aok
The issue is it will take some coading,in the time being disabling is a solution that requires next to nothing to implement.Hopefully Dale can resolve it with a popup.
We canuks need to stick together,it's a small world afterall! :noid :noid
:salute
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I know the folks who work hard to fill the scenarios and such will not like it. We PM folks in the Mains to remind them of the time and to invite them to come fly in the scenario when trying to fill slots.
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So we agree! :aok
The issue is it will take some coading,in the time being disabling is a solution that requires next to nothing to implement.Hopefully Dale can resolve it with a popup.
We canuks need to stick together,it's a small world afterall! :noid :noid
:salute
Yuck.
I hate popups in the middle of game-play. Just like I hate join requests. Almost got me killed last scenario.
I'd prefer a msg in my text buffer, "Player Morfiend sent you a PM but was blocked." Doesn't obscure my view in the middle of a dogfight.
After I land, I can turn off my block setting and PM back "Hay what did you need?"
And Canucks? Manifest Destiny works North and South, not just East and West. You shall be absorbed! (Except for the French speakers.) ;)
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Bonjour coma sava?
I hear you about the popup blocking views but I get my messages in the text buffer for .join and assumed the same would be done for PM's....I know I know assumed.
Sava tre bien Merci.
Borg shall be illuminated!
:salute
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WTG Hitech, probabably should've been done years ago. atleast in the MA.
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Yuck.
I hate popups in the middle of game-play. Just like I hate join requests. Almost got me killed last scenario.
I'd prefer a msg in my text buffer, "Player Morfiend sent you a PM but was blocked." Doesn't obscure my view in the middle of a dogfight.
After I land, I can turn off my block setting and PM back "Hay what did you need?"
And Canucks? Manifest Destiny works North and South, not just East and West. You shall be absorbed! (Except for the French speakers.) ;)
Yeah, like Morf said, have it work the same as join requests. I would've hoped that'd be obvious but life keeps showing me what I think is obvious isn't always. ;)
I just think one fix to fix stuff we don't want to see regardless of whether it's friend, foe, in another arena, or whatever makes a lot more sense than targeting one part of the arena and ignoring that a similar problem can arise from anywhere else.
Wiley.
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I've gotten the "cross country PMs disabled" message twice -- both times immediately after a collision -- though I didn't try to PM. Maybe a collision is a "trigger" event that inspires rage PMs. :D
I can think of other "trigger" events.... :O
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I've gotten the "cross country PMs disabled" message twice -- both times immediately after a collision -- though I didn't try to PM. Maybe a collision is a "trigger" event that produces rage PMs. :D
LoL! See? Already working!
:rofl
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That is the most pathetic PM I have ever seen. I sincerely hope this player is gone. :aok
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I've gotten the "cross country PMs disabled" message twice -- both times immediately after a collision -- though I didn't try to PM. Maybe a collision is a "trigger" event that inspires rage PMs. :D
I can think of other "trigger" events.... :O
Perhaps it's the "Popeye has collided with you" message that's being sent to your opponent automatically, which is triggering it? :headscratch:
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I know the folks who work hard to fill the scenarios and such will not like it. We PM folks in the Mains to remind them of the time and to invite them to come fly in the scenario when trying to fill slots.
In a way I agree and understand the point. However, we as CMs can blast messages to the MAs for a larger audience.
The only time this becomes a problem is if lets say, Shuffler had to jump into the MA and saw me and needed to shoot a quick PM because he is Knight and I am Rook. He would need to be able to get my attention somehow (to his point) to get me over to the event. I personally usually stay away from channel 200 most of the time so I would never see a message from him unless he switched countries to get to me.
This is the ONLY issue I see in disabling PMs.
I do like the idea of having the option to choose to accept a PM as it is sent. Not sure how that looks in the coding world but it is a good idea.
:rock
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A pilot's handle should be tied to their account, so if you squelch david, he changes his name to tom, he's still squelched. Meanwhile newguy1 takes the pilot handle of david, but he's not going to be squelched. Everyone will hear him just fine.
Point is, squelching should be tied to an account, not a pilot handle.
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Yup. I assume that guy earned a well deserved muting at least. Now, does it make sense to disable it for all versus dealing with the people who are actually causing the problem and having to opt-in to receive cross country PMs? I think it would be pretty safe to say that over 50% of the people in the arena have probably never PMed something like that to another player.
I've seen a lot of stupidity on country, doesn't mean I want the channel shut down.
Wiley.
Classic case of a few bad apples ruining it for the rest :aok
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I guess I dont see it as limiting what one hears or is exposed to,more along the lines of stopping the abuse. Would you not agree the SS Dale posted was abusive?
Now I'm not sure how difficult it would be to coad but having PM's act like a join request may solve the issue,you just cant jump in someones plane without them giving you the ok first. Want to send me a pm,I get a little check box popup to say yes or no...simple solution that would work for both text and vox.
I was thinking along the same lines but I would add something where in if you get a pm there is a button to push to mute/report the player, (probably for new players, with a checkbox for don't show me again.) A new player is not going to have any idea that he can or how to. Also if somebody sends a pm like the one shown they should never be able to send another pm ever. Maybe this doesn't work with the psychology of players and they won't throw tantrums if you just don't let them misbehave. Still it is a little bit of the "this is why we can't have nice things" category.
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I know the folks who work hard to fill the scenarios and such will not like it. We PM folks in the Mains to remind them of the time and to invite them to come fly in the scenario when trying to fill slots.
It's simply a flag set in the communication flags. I coded it long long ago. I simply turned it on today.
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Classic case of a few bad apples ruining it for the rest :aok
Yes. But they don't have to. There are better ways to do it than eliminating it for all, with the added benefit that it wouldn't matter what side the a-holes are on.
Yeah, if they implemented better squelch functionality and PM filtering and so on, you might be subjected to one rant from someone before you squelch them. You also eliminate the possibility that you might make a new friend. The guys on the other countries are not all terrible people. Except the Bish. (the sad thing is I need to say that's sarcasm because it seems enough people truly think that or take offense because someone would say that and mean it)
Wiley.
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I take it the offender was Cell?
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So a failure to deal with the reported, reapeated, offender.. we all lose the ability to conversate with the rest of the community via pm?
I can tell my the context of the PM who that is. Why not disable pms for the offenders, rather than the entire game?
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Why not disable pms for the offenders, rather than the entire game?
Because in circumstances like those in HTC's exhibit, we've probably lost a player for good. And it wasn't the low-life Epsilon-minus semi-moron who sent the PM.
For those situations like Fork and SlipKnt have described, we'll just have to send the message on 200 and hope it's seen, or on squad channel, or on some other pre-designated frequency.
Really, even I am surprised by what HTC posted. I'd thought much better of our clan.
- oldman
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Because in circumstances like those in HTC's exhibit, we've probably lost a player for good. And it wasn't the low-life Epsilon-minus semi-moron who sent the PM.
For those situations like Fork and SlipKnt have described, we'll just have to send the message on 200 and hope it's seen, or on squad channel, or on some other pre-designated frequency.
Really, even I am surprised by what HTC posted. I'd thought much better of our clan.
- oldman
I’ve have received some colorful ones myself, I guess I just have thick skin. BTW I thinks it’s a bad idea, I have in the past pm’d people “newbs” with gentile critiques of their errors and given some advice. I’m positive others have done the same.
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actually I think it's pretty cool they got rid of the messages. had a guy on Tuesday boasting basically that he was smarter than his squadies. so he gave us his new way of playing including start up times. guess I'll be looking for him on tuesday. he was kind of nasty but hey, at least his squadies have class and gave us a good fight, they got some of us, we got some of them, it's all about the fight.
semp
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200 chat was livelier than usual yesterday. Correlation?
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I know the folks who work hard to fill the scenarios and such will not like it. We PM folks in the Mains to remind them of the time and to invite them to come fly in the scenario when trying to fill slots.
We can just turn it off or on, dude. No worries.
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I think disabling cross country pm's is the right thing to do. esp for new players so they can't send nasty pm's and they can't receive them.
if you want ot talk to someone in another country just put there name in the vox radio channel 5/squad squad channel radio, and they can do the same.
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+1
People get upset for all kinds of reasons. Maybe internet lag caused their shot to not be recorded by the server in time, or some other anomaly occurred that cannot be explained. We are connected to the server over vast distances.
Everyone has the option to auto-record their sorties and then send them in to HiTech for review when something strange happens. I often watch a sortie to find out what happened.
We all come into the main arena to have some fun. Verbal harassment from pm's makes players quit or find something else to do.
My two cents
:salute
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If the person that sent the PM that HT posted a SS of is still in the game shame of HTC. :mad:
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Yes. But they don't have to. There are better ways to do it than eliminating it for all, with the added benefit that it wouldn't matter what side the a-holes are on.
Yeah, if they implemented better squelch functionality and PM filtering and so on, you might be subjected to one rant from someone before you squelch them. You also eliminate the possibility that you might make a new friend. The guys on the other countries are not all terrible people. Except the Bish. (the sad thing is I need to say that's sarcasm because it seems enough people truly think that or take offense because someone would say that and mean it)
Wiley.
I'm guessing u are 1 of the ones whom squeak on chnl 200 :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I'm guessing u are 1 of the ones whom squeak on chnl 200 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Keep guessing. :rofl :rofl :rofl
I just don't think this game needs more isolation of people.
Wiley.
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Keep guessing. :rofl :rofl :rofl
I just don't think this game needs more isolation of people.
Wiley.
They can still talk on 200.
semp
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They can still talk on 200.
semp
Sure. If there's a conversation that is only of interest to those two players, do you want to be spammed with every one of those conversations that don't concern you?
Wiley.
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Sure. If there's a conversation that is only of interest to those two players, do you want to be spammed with every one of those conversations that don't concern you?
Wiley.
99% of the talk on 200 is not directed at me.
semp
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99% of the talk on 200 is not directed at me.
semp
I wonder what it'd look like if every PM went to 200. I'm guessing it would be scrolling a lot faster.
Wiley.
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I wonder what it'd look like if every PM went to 200. I'm guessing it would be scrolling a lot faster.
Wiley.
Well it goes on the same text buffer and it doesn't really affect it, since pm are rare.
semp
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Well it goes on the same text buffer and it doesn't really affect it, since pm are rare.
semp
What's your source on that? Maybe you don't get PMs often, others might. If you saw every single PM conversation going on in the arena on 200 I'd expect it would be pretty constant scrolling.
Wiley.
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I know a few players that get rage PMs often and they told me they actually enjoy that part.. Some people take cartoon death way to seriously..put another quarter in and keep playing
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Yall don't make me PM yall. :devil
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Sure. If there's a conversation that is only of interest to those two players, do you want to be spammed with every one of those conversations that don't concern you?
Wiley.
The can also go to another channel.
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The can also go to another channel.
:aok
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Boo... I only PM nice stuff...
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I get asked what the joke was I told the other day. :D
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The can also go to another channel.
Yeah, that works. People who want to cross country chat have to tune it. Not super convenient particularly if you're in a squad though.
Wiley.
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Yeah, that works. People who want to cross country chat have to tune it. Not super convenient particularly if you're in a squad though.
Wiley.
Squad channel
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Squad channel
I guess you could detune the blue channel to do that. Otherwise you're losing country, 200, or squad.
Wiley.
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Look on the bright side. Turning off cross country rage pm's will cut down on the purse fights in the M.A.
One night Scotty really let me have it with his purse (a real lethal weapon undetected by airport security).
:neener: :neener:
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Look on the bright side. Turning off cross country rage pm's will cut down on the purse fights in the M.A.
One night Scotty really let me have it with his purse (a real lethal weapon undetected by airport security).
:neener: :neener:
Certain players can't smack talk anymore, so they are now bringing it here to the BBS instead.
Coogan
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Look on the bright side. Turning off cross country rage pm's will cut down on the purse fights in the M.A.
One night Scotty really let me have it with his purse (a real lethal weapon undetected by airport security).
:neener: :neener:
made you cry didn't I? Lol
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I guess it is only fair I apologize for running over your toes with my M-8.
Accidents do happen ya know !
:rofl :rofl
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ROTFLMAO
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Boo... I only PM nice stuff...
I snapped this photo of your neighborhood as you were typing this
(https://i.postimg.cc/52wStYnm/Lightning-Strike.jpg)
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A screen shot I received a few weeks back.
(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=398587.0;attach=32012)
The offender does not deserve to have his/her name blotted!
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I have another complaint to record against Scotty (a real Whaaaaaambulance remark indeed):
Just because I popped the turret on his Panzer H one time with my M-8 (only one time mind you) he upped a T-34/85 from the spawn hangar and convinced all the other Bishops to switch to the T-34/85's. This
has caused nothing but grief for all of us M-8 drivers. The 85 turret is just too tough to pop from the front or side.
This behavior will not go unpunished.
:D :D :D
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I have another complaint to record against Scotty (a real Whaaaaaambulance remark indeed):
Just because I popped the turret on his Panzer H one time with my M-8 (only one time mind you) he upped a T-34/85 from the spawn hangar and convinced all the other Bishops to switch to the T-34/85's. This
has caused nothing but grief for all of us M-8 drivers. The 85 turret is just too tough to pop from the front or side.
This behavior will not go unpunished.
:D :D :D
LMAO true story! BTW mano I've been a nit for 2 weeks now lol problem solved lol
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ROTFLMAO