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Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Nash on August 13, 2001, 04:33:00 AM
(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/mosquito1.jpg)                


Yes rejoice! Our team has been working night and day and we have finally concluded this project. We have found a plane to call our own!

OK!

Through literally minutes of exhaustive research, our team, the Concerned Canadians for a Better Aces High (CCBAH) have discovered what will ultimately be the most anticipated aircraft EVER to be introduced into the skies of Aces High.

Its name?

The DE HAVILLAND DH98 MOSQUITO FB Mk VI


But don't just take our word for it! No! Listen to what some of you have said about this magnificent piece of machinery:

"Mosquito was certainly a historically significant plane" - jedi

"Heck, we can't even scratch at precision surface bombing without throwing a Mos in the ring." - Sorrow

"Made from good Canadian plywood!!" - Torque

"Nope. Something different would be nice. Perhaps a Mosquito?" - Jekyll

"Yes, for the love of all that's good an right, we must not leave out the mosquito." - MajorTom

"Mosquito would be a nice choice, because of all the armament variations. With one airframe you get an aircraft that can do level bombing, CAS, night fighter, maritime patrol, day fighter, recon, and probably some other stuff I forgot." - Funked

"I'd sure like to see it there." - Chappy

"Mosquito!" - Nexx

"Aircraft that would fit in the arena: Mosquito" - Vermillion

"Mosquito would be a great addition to AH IMO - it did just about everything." - bloom25

"I would LOVE a Mossie" - Igloo

"Give us the Mossie now!!!" - Dowding

That's right. It is a bona fide WINNER folks, and would make a wonderful addition to any thinking man's war.

(ok Canucks I know we have short attention spans so go ahead and skip to the bottom if you must... there, hear my battle cry and then hit the reply button and type stuff).

SPECIFICATIONS (for the geeks)

Period:    YWorld War II
Uses:    Varied
First Flight:    1940
Manufacturer:    de Havilland Canada
Wing Span:    54 ft 2 in (16.51 m)
Length:    40 ft 11 in (12.47 m)
Height:    15 ft 3 in (4.65 m)
Weight Empty:    14,299 lb (6,486 kg)
Weight Gross:    22,299 lb (10,115 kg)
Max Speed:    380 mi at 12,992 ft (611 km/h at 3,960 m)
Service Ceiling:    36,089 ft (11,000 m)
Range:    1,885 mi (3033 km)
Power:    Two 1250 hp Merlin XXI engines.
Armament:    Four Hispano-Suiza 20 mm and four Browning .303 calibre machine guns


BACKGROUND

The deHavilland "Mosquito" was the most versatile aircraft of the war, being used as a fighter, reconnaissance aircraft, bomber, anti-shipping aircraft, night-fighter, mine-layer, target-maker, intruder, and high-speed transport. Lovingly dubbed the 'Wooden Wonder' or the 'Termites Dream', it was simple in construction and design, and was one of the most cost effective aircraft ever built. Included in the construction was Ecuador balsa for the plywood skin, Sitka spruce from Alaska and B.C. in the wing spar, Douglas Fir stringers and birch and ash for the longitudinal members. These were all held together with glue and wood screws. The result was an airplane that was easy to maintain, tolerant of battle damage and simple to patch.

The Mosquito Mk VI  was introduced in June, 1942... a twin engine, single boom aircraft with the pilot and navigator sitting side-by-side. It was faster than the Spitfire, flew higher than almost any other aircraft and carried tremendous fire power and a bomb load over incredible distances. It was powered by two Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, first the 1250 hp Merlin XXI and then the 1650 hp Merlin XXV. It's maximum speed was 380 mph at 13,000 feet fully loaded, making it the fastest operational aircraft of the 2nd World War until mid-1944. It could do over 400 easily without bombs. It's range was 1205 miles, 1705 with extra fuel tanks. The Mk VI was armed with the standard 4+4 in the nose, with an additional bomb load of 2 250 lb bombs in the rear of the bomb-bay and two more on pylons on the wings, in-board of the engines. (Note:  conflicting info about this - have read 2 500 lb bombs in certain configurations... and also it could also carry two 500lb bombs internally and from 1944 on wards they were equipped to carry four rockets or a 500lb bomb under each wing. Elsewhere I've heard 2000lb internally).

This version, the Mk VI fighter/bomber,  was the most numerous version made. In total,  production of the Mosquito was 7781, and these suckers were built by good 'ol Canadian labor EH!

OK ENOUGH OF THIS GEEK STUFF ALREADY

In summary this thing could fight, blow up choo choo trains, sink subs, lay down mines, bomb stuff, drop markers, chase planes at night, transport people at very high speeds... it was the toejam!

Gawd either my brain is about to explode or I am gonna die of boredom....  Moving along.

BENEFITS TO THE DESIGNERS

With so many roles and so many variations to this plane (you can add all that radar night fighting stuff and other gizmos and such for example) it's like MONEY TRAIN. Just move stuff around and you've got a brand new plane to include in each and every version!

There's probably like 3 or 4 guys in EAW or another sim that would ALL FLOCK TO ACES HIGH if they could fly this plane. They are just waiting for the word! MONEY TRAIN!

IT'S A FREAKIN' NATURAL! OK? OK......

Now that all the technical crap is out of the way, lets move into the realm of markings etcetera.


CANADIANS

Eh!

Thank you, thank you very much. Please be seated.

Ok - what markings should this WONDER of the skies bear? That's tough. Listen closely.

                 (http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/mosss1.jpg)                
the Moonbeam McSwine in action (computer rendered)

I am *thinking* of the De Haviland Mosquito FBVI: "Moonbeam McSwine". Yeah. "Moonbeam McSwine"! How cool is that?! Save that glory sissy crap for the other countries... The "Memphis Belle"? Phhht..... like hand me a tissue. This thing is a McSwine!

But as to not alienate the flag wavers south of the border that happen to uhm... CREATE this FINE simulation..... The "McSwine" was piloted by one 1st Lt James Luma. An American born in north or south Dakota somewhere. HEY STOP THROWING STUFF AT ME PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS I CAN EXPLAIN!.

This guy Luma joined the ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE, 418 SQUADRON in 1941 because the U.S. of A.  wasn't at war yet and he wanted to mix it up a little. So the criteria of CCBAH was to look at people belonging to the RCAF, and also try to find MARKINGS of some Canadian pilots flying Mossies.....which we were unsuccessful at doing. We would have loved to have found paint for H. D. Cleveland but we could not. Who cares though.... McSwine is probably a way better a name than any ship Cleveland ever flew. And it turns out that this Luma guy did ok - killing 262's and 109's and 190's and 901s, 019's. 091's and  910s and whatever who cares really... lotsa LW stuff he killed and I'm pretty sure he wasn't concerned about all that 1 and 9 and zero crap as long as he got his daily dose of HIT SPRITES!

HE WAS IN THE RCAF DAMMIT~!

JAMES LUMA'S RCAF SQUADRON

The 418 Eskimo Squadron.

Their badge:an Eskimo on an ice-floe holding a harpoon.

                 (http://www.mossie.org/images/squadron_badges/418edmonton_newer.jpg)                

OK they "say" it's a harpoon, but PEOPLE... LOOK CLOSELY. That eskimo is holding a freaking HOCKEY STICK! I swear to Gandhi as the holy ghost is my witness... like... HOW PERFECT IS THAT??? It's like the stars are aligning and it's eerily SPIRITUAL in a sort of spiritual kind of way.

I'm telling you... this Mosquito business is a force much greater than you or I or any one man.

I DIGRESS!

418's fame began to mount in 1943 when they converted to the Mosquito Mk VI  They were the only Canadian unit given free rein to "intrude" into the enemy's lair from the fjords of Norway, through the Mediterranean, to the steppes of Eastern Europe. They performed a multitude of roles that was unparalleled in the history of aerial warfare. These ranged from dropping money and supplies for clandestine operations, to the lightning quick strikes at grass-top height against railway yards and airfields. They were also in the fore in the defence against the new scourge of the civilian population - the V1 and V2 rockets.

NUFF' SAID!


OK LADIES AND GENTLEMEN A FINAL RALLYING CALL

What more can be said about this hoser super elite fighter of... principles and everything?!!!

NOT MUCH!

We of the CCBAH are THROWING DOWN THE GAUNTLET! EN GUARD and TOUCHE! We have pictures up the ying and the yang and the dong hi delta and the wazoo!. We have an incredible amount of resources at our disposal please don't MAKE us have to pull em out! We have literally MANY pictures of cockpits and exteriors and we can even point you to a fella that has modelled this plane already (the whole enchilada, exterior and "highly detailed" cockpit etc., modelled into manta ray dream designer and will export into any format you wish....and will sell it for only 60 pounds which is probably like a couple of bucks americana).

ALL WE ARE SAYING

Please brethren of flight simulations run amok. Help us in our crusade. Support us with a resounding YEH towards our cause. Canadian brothers, Canadian sisters, and everyone else who humors our struggle in the face of such adversity...

Pledge your allegiance to the keg!

Er I mean.... you know what I mean... Pledge allegiance to it!

We thank you.

CCBAH

EH into AH

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Nash ]
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Arty on August 13, 2001, 04:49:00 AM
What's all this then? This Mossie thing is an obvious ruse, its all about Canadien power, EH, what? You seek to further canuck influence in the world. I see through your plan. Eh. http://www.standonguard.com/index2.html (http://www.standonguard.com/index2.html)

check out that site on Canadian world domination.
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: juzz on August 13, 2001, 05:39:00 AM
You expect me to actually READ all that crap? Enough of that, just hand over the mossie already!
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Nash on August 13, 2001, 05:43:00 AM
That's a YEH from Brother Juzz!

Like he said - hand over the mossie!
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: 1776 on August 13, 2001, 07:12:00 AM
Did Stockwell Day design the Moosie?

Just who is Stockwell Day?

Is Baarbaaaara Budd a looker?

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: 1776 ]
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Ghosth on August 13, 2001, 07:27:00 AM
ROFLMAO Cats sitting on the floor looking at me with a "WTF is up with HIM today" expression on his face.

Truly over the top Nash! If I didn't know better I'd say you had a MAJOR case of cabin fever, but it's the wrong season for that.

Hmmm must be a new strain of canadian moose fever has you ranting & raveing out of your head.

By all means lets have the mossie!

(come on placate him a bit folks & maybe he'll go away)

 :)
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: hazed- on August 13, 2001, 09:39:00 AM
give us the moose!! i mean mossie!  :)
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Thrawn on August 13, 2001, 09:41:00 AM
This so should happen its absoludicrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :eek:    :eek:    :eek:    :eek:    :eek:

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Thrawn ]
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Effdub on August 13, 2001, 10:10:00 AM
Nash, I thought Canada was going to invade the USA, take over HTC and model the Mossie themselves anyway. Does the phrase "hand over the Mossie" imply that Canada would lay-off their invasion plans if HTC would model the Mossie now?  :D

Effdub
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Baddawg on August 13, 2001, 10:30:00 AM
HTC make us hosers happy.  :)
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: SOB on August 13, 2001, 10:38:00 AM
Heh, silly Canuck Frenchies.  What tha hell, bring on the mossie!   :D


SOB
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Rocket on August 13, 2001, 10:43:00 AM
Yes bring the mossie on in Royal Australian Air Force colors!!!!! MOSSIE MOSSIE MOSSIE!

S!
Rocket
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Fatty on August 13, 2001, 11:45:00 AM
Did you lumberjacks get tired of dressing in women's clothing and hanging around in bars?
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: funkedup on August 13, 2001, 11:50:00 AM
I'm with Nash!
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Grimm on August 13, 2001, 12:01:00 PM
Yes Mosquito Please....

Excellent AirCraft  :D
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Lephturn on August 13, 2001, 12:05:00 PM
Bring on the Mossie, eh.  It hauls mo beer, faster.

<burp>
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: milnko on August 13, 2001, 02:01:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ghosth:
[QI](come on placate him a bit folks & maybe he'll go away)   :)[/QI]

Well ignoring him didn't work   :D

Bring on the Mossie! Make a nice target for my Me 262  :eek:
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Dowding on August 13, 2001, 02:41:00 PM
Mosquito Evangelism is a terrible affliction.  ;)

But we know the cure - bring on the Mossie!  :D
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Jack55 on August 13, 2001, 03:33:00 PM
Ehh, OK!
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Pyro on August 13, 2001, 04:15:00 PM
That's probably the most interesting argument I've seen for a plane.  What the hell, ehh?
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Nash on August 13, 2001, 04:21:00 PM
THANK YOU SIR!!!!

EH into AH!

..... a reality.

Amen!
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: moose on August 13, 2001, 04:25:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hazed-:
give us the moose!! i mean mossie!   :)

damnit. always getting me confused.
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Hangtime on August 13, 2001, 04:37:00 PM
Hats off to yah Nash! WTG! A fine argument well founded in ...well... in stuff; and who could deny the need for a plywood torch when the sun goes down in the MA.

Hell yah; give the canucks a plywood box to fly; and auger holes in the ground with.

Saves havin to put 'em in a coffin, and since the holes already dug...

You go, Nash! <S!>
Title: CANADIAN HOSERS REJOICE! (compliments of CCBAH)
Post by: Nash on August 13, 2001, 04:53:00 PM
(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/hansontx.jpg)  

For immediate dispatch:

Hotel One, Hotel Two, Hotel Three.

Orders: Cease operation "Wreak Havok".

Subjects have acquiesced. Well done on your undetected infiltration into Texas, but return immediately. We will negotiate terms of payment upon your arrival.

End.

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Nash ]