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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TwinBoom on July 19, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
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Dale its been years since we have seen new aircraft. the terrain stuff is amazing along with Vr but how about a new toy.
the past has shown in my opinion to generate new interest with every addition..
just a thought
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+1, just curious, I can't recall what the last new unit added to AH was. Was it the battleship?
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the past has shown in my opinion to generate new interest with every addition..
I'm just curious...do you mean new customers? Or more hours played by existing customers?
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+1, just curious, I can't recall what the last new unit added to AH was. Was it the battleship?
Can't tell right now when the battleship was added, but the last pilotable object added was the Tu-2 in tour 168 (jan 2014).
Last fighters (Yak-3 and Yak7b) as well as the last vehicles (the German Jagdpanzer trio) were all added six months earlier, tour 162 (jun 2013)
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Yea! Bf 110F!
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Yea! Bf 110F!
Easy enough to make by mixing the shapes of the existing C and G models. Not sure what performance data HTC would need.
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Can't tell right now when the battleship was added, but the last pilotable object added was the Tu-2 in tour 168 (jan 2014).
Last fighters (Yak-3 and Yak7b) as well as the last vehicles (the German Jagdpanzer trio) were all added six months earlier, tour 162 (jun 2013)
Thanks, Lusche. More than 6 yrs ago? Wow, that's a long long time ago. Hope HTC can find a way to finally update the Tempest and introduce something new too.
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It has been awhile and the natives are getting wrestless.
RDR2's last update was 6 months back and they are going bonkers over there. Online folks are dressing up like clowns on some of the servers.
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IF mix and match is ok then how bout a P47D22 or D23 Razorback with the same performance and hard points of the D-25 so they could mix and match the squadrons in the events arenas? The 9th AF ground attack and PTO/CBI Jugs included lots of those birds.
And on top of that how bout adding the original canopy to the P51B/C call it the 51B designation so the skins can be done that are accurate for the 'coffin hood' canopy 51s, use the P51C designation for the Malcom Hood version so those skins could be accurate. Again for the mix and match of events and being able to 'climb in' to an accurate historically skinned version? Yes I know both the 51B and C had both canopy types. By separating them by B and C it would allow the additional slots and separate the canopy types.
Add a Spitfire LFVc with the added engine performance to make it fit better into the events time frames of 42-44 as the Spit Vb we have now is flying in 42-44 events in the lesser powered variant against the LW then it would have had. The additional ammo the Vc carried would help as well and make it easier to represent the Malta Spits, the RAAF Spit Vcs and the CBI Vcs as Vbs did not go overseas to the PTO or CBI
Add the Me109E-7 with the DT/Bomb carrying capability and increased engine performance that would fit so well in the Desert air war, the early battle over France when the RAF started coming across in 41 and the Balkans and Russian front where they saw lots of action as fighter bombers. The added performance would help spread the wealth in events too.
Graft the glass nose of the B25C/D onto the B25H so the B25 crowd can have a B25J and quit panicking about firepower on the glass nose version for events. That or modify the early version to allow for single tail gun 50s and additional 50s out the two side windows near the back so they will consider using them in events.
Just for fun add the Hawk 75/P36 as it was used from 40-44 all over the place whether it be the Finns, the French, or the Brits in the CBI into 44. The early war events would benefit.
Finally throw in the Beaufighter VI or X as a new aircraft, so that the bird that was involved from 40-45 and all over the ETO/MTO/CBI/PTO would be available.
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yes please
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FSO/Scenario wise, Beaufighter is wanted, but not needed.
Japan could use more aircraft in general: D4Y, B6N, Ki-45, J2M.
Italy also needs some love: C.200, SM.79, Z.1007, CR.42.
Would need to add the Gladiator as a counter to the CR.42 of course, for that early Africa Campaign. :)
These would allow for a more proper Pacific and Africa FSO/Scenario setups.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against the addition of the Beau one bit. I believe it should come after Japan and Italy have much better presence in the game, especially in FSO and Scenario.
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This:
And on top of that how bout adding the original canopy to the P51B/C call it the 51B designation so the skins can be done that are accurate for the 'coffin hood' canopy 51s, use the P51C designation for the Malcom Hood version so those skins could be accurate. Again for the mix and match of events and being able to 'climb in' to an accurate historically skinned version? Yes I know both the 51B and C had both canopy types. By separating them by B and C it would allow the additional slots and separate the canopy types...
I wasn't in the game when the 51B came out, but I've been told that originally it did have the birdcage canopy and then was replaced by the Malcom Hood version. If this is true, could it be simply put back into the game alongside the MH model?
And this:
Just for fun add the Hawk 75/P36...
And finally:
Italy also needs some love: C.200, SM.79, Z.1007, CR.42.
Would need to add the Gladiator as a counter to the CR.42 of course, for that early Africa Campaign. :)
The Gladiator and CR.42 were the apex of biplane technology and would make for great fights! If you enjoy flying the WWI planes, you'll love these. The C.200 vs Hurri I would also offer excellent jousting. Throw in the Hawk 75 for good measure and you'd have all kinds of fun. As for new aircraft the Beaufighter of course and how about the P-51A; an original Allison variant of this legendary fighter.
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What guppy said.
Thanks
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i think it is pretty clear that they have lost interest. its sad, but that is the way she goes boys.
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HECK YEAH!!! To all these Model Tweaks/New Additions! Guys...come to a consensus on 3 or 4....and I will supply the ("For Bribes") Scotch, to get it started! Skuzzy might be Un-Retarded(un retired...as long as he doesnt trip over the power cord again🤣) to help Dale...eh consume the "spoils"? On 1 condition....Start with Tempest Fine Tuning/Tweaking lol in VR... :aok CHIT!!! 50 Gallon Barrel Just for Dale???? I got it covered :D
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Maybe it would be an good idea to open up AH for mod support, getting the community to help out with creating all sorts of content, then HTC just could do quality controll of the content created by the community.
But maybe the game engine is just too complicated for that, but alot of other games do this, and they benefit greatly from it.
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At least a new plane would make the ones playing now happy. hummm….. the Fiat G55 serie 1 would be a great place to start.
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+1 :salute
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i think it is pretty clear that they have lost interest. its sad, but that is the way she goes boys.
Who is "they" ?
HiTech
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Who is "they" ?
HiTech
Maybe he was going for Royal We (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we), your majesty ? ;)
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I have posted about this before, but more variants of existing birds (read 3d) would add quite some to the game.
More p47 variants
Bf109 AS variants, E7
Fw190a6 FW190a9
Mosquito variants etc etc
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Maybe he was going for Royal We (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we), your majesty ? ;)
We are not amused
:D
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I have posted about this before, but more variants of existing birds (read 3d) would add quite some to the game.
More p47 variants
Bf109 AS variants, E7
Fw190a6 FW190a9
Mosquito variants etc etc
Which one of those would put 300 new players back in the arena? We should do that one first.
Personally, I think it is the 190a6. If we just added the 190a6 the game would totally turn around. I suspect there are literally thousands of potential customers out there just waiting for us to add the 190a6 before they open an account.
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Which one of those would put 300 new players back in the arena? We should do that one first.
Personally, I think it is the 190a6. If we just added the 190a6 the game would totally turn around. I suspect there are literally thousands of potential customers out there just waiting for us to add the 190a6 before they open an account.
For new planes, 190D11 or G.55 mk2 or gtfo. ;)
I still think they should fix the Temp before going on to new planes. Just MHO.
Wiley.
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I think there are plenty of planes
Lack of planes is not the issue ..
it is a lack of pilots
Even have enough pilots now if the maps were downsized to fit or AI filled in the gaps
Best times in AH require only one other aircraft flown by a decent stick who wants to fight.
The rest is noise....
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Eagler
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I think there are plenty of planes
Lack of planes is not the issue ..
it is a lack of pilots
Even have enough pilots now if the maps were downsized to fit or AI filled in the gaps
Best times in AH require only one other aircraft flown by a decent stick who wants to fight.
The rest is noise....
<S>
Eagler
You could add all the planes and maps in the world, and it isnt a fix for what is going on in the Melee arena these days. The maps might help some, but any plane added would likely sit in the hangar behind the top 5 in the game.
If you log into the arena nightly like i usually do, and look at ALL sides of the map, you will see the problem.
2 countries is what fixes this. Two countries, short switch time, and smaller maps is what fixes the problem this game is having. When and if the numbers climb again, switch content back to what supports it.
I forgot to add the tweaking of ENY and perk systems, along with disabling base resupply to a set time after a base is captured, not as a defensive tactic. Strat supply should be disabled as a whole as far as gvs spawning in to do it. Fly a goon, sure, but for me to spend an hour plus hitting a strat, to have a pile of resuppliers sitting there waiting is ridiculous.
All these "features" that have been added through the years, are the rules that dictate this game, and the way its played. The way its played is going to reflect peoples overall experience here.
These are just my opinions.
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2 countries is what fixes this. Two countries, short switch time, and smaller maps is what fixes the problem this game is having. When and if the numbers climb again, switch content back to what supports it.
You know they used to burn heretics. ;)
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You know they used to burn heretics. ;)
:bolt:
Im waiting for someone to tell me this was tried before... im curious if it was in combination of ENY.
No axis vs allied arena doesnt count, its a different beast.
I just figured id save the small handful the response.
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well you wanna test it. simple prove hitech wrong, pack the ava. pretty sure this in charge there can set it up anyway you want, they have done it before and they can do it again.
imagine only 2 countries and you can change at will. prove hitech wrong. i challenge you. do it. let's all those who think this will work pack the ava. hell i bet even hitech will change the arena name to 2 country war.
prove your point. make hitech see how he's been wrong all this time.
semp
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Im waiting for someone to tell me this was tried before... im curious if it was in combination of ENY.
No axis vs allied arena doesnt count, its a different beast.
I just figured id save the small handful the response.
You forgot, "Stop trying to tell Hitech how to run his business!"
Sadly, the argument I do accept is maybe the assumption of 3 sides is so embedded in the code across modules that it would be infeasible to disentangle it and implement 2-side logic without unacceptable risk and effort. I could believe that to be the case. I've worked on projects where base assumptions we made that paint them into a corner. Sometimes you can't imagine at the start you'd ever want it any other way.
Regards of the fact that Hitech wouldn't want it any other way anyway. :D
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well you wanna test it. simple prove hitech wrong, pack the ava. pretty sure this in charge there can set it up anyway you want, they have done it before and they can do it again.
imagine only 2 countries and you can change at will. prove hitech wrong. i challenge you. do it. let's all those who think this will work pack the ava. hell i bet even hitech will change the arena name to 2 country war.
prove your point. make hitech see how he's been wrong all this time.
semp
:rofl
I think i responded while you were typing. Sorry, that has been covered. Besides, this these ideas are to improve this game going forward, to the type of gameplay it used to have, and not to satisfy the 4 of you that post here and think there isnt an issue.
Log in a few other times throughout the day, my point will ring a lottle louder then.
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Oh and some genius :rolleyes: will also try and make the disingenuous argument of setting up a side arena to test it (or the AvA). We all know the cattle will not click on anything other than Melee. We had this argument many times and each time I offered the alternative:
Put the two sided arena in the Melee and setup a side arena labeled "3-sided Test Arena".
If people can't live without 3 sides they will go out of their way to go click on the three sided side arena.
If the Melee empties out and everyone goes to the "3-sided Test Arena", then we have our answer.
I've never found one interested in that test configuration.
Go figure. :rolleyes:
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You forgot, "Stop trying to tell Hitech how to run his business!"
Sadly, the argument I do accept is maybe the assumption of 3 sides is so embedded in the code across modules that it would be infeasible to disentangle it and implement 2-side logic without unacceptable risk and effort. I could believe that to be the case. I've worked on projects where base assumptions we made that paint them into a corner. Sometimes you can't imagine at the start you'd ever want it any other way.
Regards of the fact that Hitech wouldn't want it any other way anyway. :D
I can see this being true, i have never read that on here though. Ive heard other reasons however, that dont really add up to me. Again, these are my opinions, this is a past time for me, i still enjoy it like the couple of people here that think these type of posts are to prove Dale wrong. They arent, they are the opinion of someone thats been here a long time and want to see the game grow, not fall into a stale pit of the same 50 guys running from eachother for the next 3 to 5 years.
If my opinions are out of line, let me know and ill put a cork in it.
This is a past time for me, i can enjoy this until the end shooting guys on overshoot reversals, but this opinions arent about me. They are what about people are going to pay 14.95 a month to play down the road, coming into the game new.
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I dont have a problem with three sides. It gives more options for play, more fronts. The problem is how it has been playing out, 2 sides ganging one, or two sides fighting each other exclusively and ignoring to third team. For one team it is to be ganged or have no one to fight.
If there was some mechanism to force the players to NOT gang, or NOT ignore a team I think it could go a long way in taking some of the frustration out the game. If you log on a see your team getting ganged and you know it will change soon due to this mechanism you would stay logged in. The same would help out with the "side switch" timer. If there are no fights to mechanism would kick in forcing the fronts/fights to change. Players wouldnt need to switch side to find fights as much and the 4 hour :noid switch rule would work fine.
I know, I know its a "rule" forcing players to play a certain way. The only change is forcing them to hit/work a different front. They can still play with the same planes ENY limiting, fight they same type of fights be it GV, furball, base take, it would just make the action move around more keeping more players involved.
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:rofl
I think i responded while you were typing. Sorry, that has been covered. Besides, this these ideas are to improve this game going forward, to the type of gameplay it used to have, and not to satisfy the 4 of you that post here and think there isnt an issue.
Log in a few other times throughout the day, my point will ring a lottle louder then.
actually it's more like 4 of you who think a 2 sided war is better. have you played lately? game play has changed a lot in the last few months. i log in and there's a lot more fights than i renember. but of course you can say what about late at night. well i logged off around 1 am pst. people were still doing they're best to kill each other.
150 yesterday at 7pm pst, would have been more if you guys stop complaining and play the game. even my wife now wants a computer to play the game.
no way there's only 4 of us having fun.
semp
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I dont have a problem with three sides. It gives more options for play, more fronts. The problem is how it has been playing out, 2 sides ganging one, or two sides fighting each other exclusively and ignoring to third team. For one team it is to be ganged or have no one to fight.
Two sides or three, I think the game needs more forceful side balancing. Other games do it just fine. In BF I can't switch teams if that would unbalance numbers beyond a certain limit. When I log on, it puts me on a side to balance out numbers if too skewed. I haven't yet died from either.
I don't have a problem with 3 sides in general. To me I think it is a situational optimization. With 400 players, 3 sides is great. It tends to spread the fights around more. Longer frontage.
With low numbers that is not a helpful thing. With low numbers there might only be critical mass for one great fight on the map and that will be on a front that 1 of the 3 teams probably can't get access to. With two sides, any fight on the map can be accessed by all players. With 400 players, there are great fights all over the place. Plenty to go around.
It doesn't matter though, it isn't going to change.
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Two sides or three, I think the game needs more forceful side balancing. Other games do it just fine. In BF I can't switch teams if that would unbalance numbers beyond a certain limit. When I log on, it puts me on a side to balance out numbers if too skewed. I haven't yet died from either.
I don't have a problem with 3 sides in general. To me I think it is a situational optimization. With 400 players, 3 sides is great. It tends to spread the fights around more. Longer frontage.
With low numbers that is not a helpful thing. With low numbers there might only be critical mass for one great fight on the map and that will be on a front that 1 of the 3 teams probably can't get access to. With two sides, any fight on the map can be accessed by all players. With 400 players, there are great fights all over the place. Plenty to go around.
It doesn't matter though, it isn't going to change.
And this may be the biggest problem. :(
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I don't have a problem with 3 sides in general. To me I think it is a situational optimization. With 400 players, 3 sides is great. It tends to spread the fights around more. Longer frontage.
With low numbers that is not a helpful thing. With low numbers there might only be critical mass for one great fight on the map and that will be on a front that 1 of the 3 teams probably can't get access to. With two sides, any fight on the map can be accessed by all players. With 400 players, there are great fights all over the place. Plenty to go around.
These couple paragraphs sum it up.
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No more variants please, just new a new plane or two.
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actually it's more like 4 of you who think a 2 sided war is better. have you played lately? game play has changed a lot in the last few months. i log in and there's a lot more fights than i renember. but of course you can say what about late at night. well i logged off around 1 am pst. people were still doing they're best to kill each other.
150 yesterday at 7pm pst, would have been more if you guys stop complaining and play the game. even my wife now wants a computer to play the game.
no way there's only 4 of us having fun.
semp
Believe it or not, there are other time zones in play other than the ones you do. As of your question of if I play or not, you can go back and read my posts again.
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Believe it or not, there are other time zones in play other than the ones you do. As of your question of if I play or not, you can go back and read my posts again.
really other time zones? things you learn every day.
as for if you play or not, was wondering if you noticed that game play has changed in the last few months. a lot more fights than last year, players up in planes and on the ground having fun killing each other.
people talk about hordes as if it was a bad thing. back in the day when I joined we would have missions of 30 to 40 players, I joined them because as new player safety in numbers. i cant even tell you how many times we would have an noe raid and 1/2 way there we would have another coming to our base, it was a slaughter, lol.
I have adapted to play in lower numbers and so have many players, there's not a day that goes by where the text channel is not full of xx killed xx. it's a lot of fun to log in and see players fighting each other, like it should be. old timers are leaving but some are coming back with newer players. my wife has seen me playing for years, now she's interested in joining, she likes to fly bombers, she's getting good at it. she sits with me while I am in a fighter and show her a thing or two, a few minutes ago told me she wants her own computer to play.
like I said, you want to change the game and prove hitech wrong then prove him wrong the right way, show statistics and numbers. fill the ava that would be the way to do it. change the MA just for the sake of you saying it should be changed may just make everybody logoff, just like when people wanted the night, numbers would drop like flies even back then.
prove your point of view about countries or time switch. I think time switch should be less, but then again, I hardly switch, because it doesnt matter which country I fly, I still have fun. maybe I adapted and you should too.
semp
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really other time zones? things you learn every day.
as for if you play or not, was wondering if you noticed that game play has changed in the last few months. a lot more fights than last year, players up in planes and on the ground having fun killing each other.
people talk about hordes as if it was a bad thing. back in the day when I joined we would have missions of 30 to 40 players, I joined them because as new player safety in numbers. i cant even tell you how many times we would have an noe raid and 1/2 way there we would have another coming to our base, it was a slaughter, lol.
I have adapted to play in lower numbers and so have many players, there's not a day that goes by where the text channel is not full of xx killed xx. it's a lot of fun to log in and see players fighting each other, like it should be. old timers are leaving but some are coming back with newer players. my wife has seen me playing for years, now she's interested in joining, she likes to fly bombers, she's getting good at it. she sits with me while I am in a fighter and show her a thing or two, a few minutes ago told me she wants her own computer to play.
like I said, you want to change the game and prove hitech wrong then prove him wrong the right way, show statistics and numbers. fill the ava that would be the way to do it. change the MA just for the sake of you saying it should be changed may just make everybody logoff, just like when people wanted the night, numbers would drop like flies even back then.
prove your point of view about countries or time switch. I think time switch should be less, but then again, I hardly switch, because it doesnt matter which country I fly, I still have fun. maybe I adapted and you should too.
semp
Im already too far into a thread that didnt need the replies i gave.
Good luck out there!
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No more variants please, just new a new plane or two.
Two weeks.
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Im already too far into a thread that didnt need the replies i gave.
Good luck out there!
you didnt seem to be unable to find a fight today. unless somebody else is playing with your id. I think you had some fun.
semp
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How about the awesome Avro Anson, and the terrifying Blenheim bomber? Throw in the Fairey Battle, too.