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Title: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Dragdad on October 02, 2020, 01:18:12 PM
Well guys, 19 years and Im done. A lot of decent folks in here, and I appreciate them. TO my squaddies and fellow wingmen / tankers, friendly enemies, and favorite adversaries, thanks for the friendships. Squanto has my contact info, if anyone wants to say hey or check in.

The game has deteriorated painfully to Bish hordes rolling maps in a few hours, while loyal Knights and Rooks get trounced with 1/3 of the numbers. It appears HT has turned a deaf ear or just ignores what's going on, and seriously, I'm not going to give someone my money anymore when they run it that way.

I see a reason for the demise, and I am speaking up like others have in the past. HT owns it, and he's apparently cool with it. If it changes for the better, I will come back, but it's just too danged frustrating right now. I have WAY better stuff to concentrate on.

Thanks for the fun times. I hope HT wakes up and it gets better.

I have a trash email I check weekly or so, if anyone cares to check in. bigdaddyhouseboater@gmail.com

feel free to say hi.

Salute, my friends.

DD

 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 02, 2020, 01:27:46 PM
late at night, we nights have the numbers and roll maps in a few hours. we own the night, bishops own the morning. maybe rooks are in need of time.


semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 02, 2020, 01:32:50 PM
Well guys, 19 years and Im done. A lot of decent folks in here, and I appreciate them. TO my squaddies and fellow wingmen / tankers, friendly enemies, and favorite adversaries, thanks for the friendships. Squanto has my contact info, if anyone wants to say hey or check in.

The game has deteriorated painfully to Bish hordes rolling maps in a few hours, while loyal Knights and Rooks get trounced with 1/3 of the numbers. It appears HT has turned a deaf ear or just ignores what's going on, and seriously, I'm not going to give someone my money anymore when they run it that way.

I see a reason for the demise, and I am speaking up like others have in the past. HT owns it, and he's apparently cool with it. If it changes for the better, I will come back, but it's just too danged frustrating right now. I have WAY better stuff to concentrate on.

Thanks for the fun times. I hope HT wakes up and it gets better.

I have a trash email I check weekly or so, if anyone cares to check in. bigdaddyhouseboater@gmail.com

feel free to say hi.

Salute, my friends.

DD

Sorry to see you go. Best to just fight the horde the best you can and don't worry about score or anything. Come in high with a Temp or 262 and buzz everyone. Theres only so much you can do. In war there are winners and losers and typically it takes the team who puts the other sides troops down first to be able to take over the land. Thats just how it works and its never fair.

 I know it can be frustrating sometimes. I log in and see the knights getting double teamed and there is nothing the knights side can do. One player cannot kill everyone and if your team is spread out. You have less fighters on each side so they cannot beat both hordes. If your team is fighting one horde then the other side has easy base takes. Its a tough spot. Eventually the other sides will have to fight each other, but that could be hours away when you aren't playing.

My solution to this problem is zones on the map that provide more points. So as one side loses bases, the other sides have zones that are worth more points. This might encourage the other teams to fight each other in those zones which would also create bigger fights because players would know where the importance of the fight is. Sometimes you log on, and there is no strategy or anyone playing for strategy so you don't know where to go. Zones would really help this situation.

This is the best solution in my opinion because it doesn't force players to do anything.

I know it involved coding and all, so I'm not sure how difficult it would be, though I think it would help a lot to stop double teaming hordes and to build bigger fights in areas for people to have fun.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Eagler on October 02, 2020, 03:14:42 PM
Base capture? Whats that?

This is an a2a combat sim to me

Wonder what would happen if it was only limited to that once again.

Best of luck DD

Let us know if you find a better ww2 on line sim out there

I have not

<S>

Eagler
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 02, 2020, 03:21:21 PM
This is an a2a combat sim to me

Wonder what would happen if it was only limited to that once again.

That would be a mistake. It's a hugely radical change involving the 'addition by subtraction' philosophy. HT would lose many more players than DragDad that way (and DragDad may catch a second wind/have a second thought and rejoin us).
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Mongoose on October 02, 2020, 03:38:22 PM
You want Hitech to force people to play the way you want them to play. That's not how this game works.  We get this great big wonderful playground, and we get together and decide how to fight the war. 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: The Fugitive on October 02, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
Base capture? Whats that?

This is an a2a combat sim to me

Wonder what would happen if it was only limited to that once again.

Best of luck DD

Let us know if you find a better ww2 on line sim out there

I have not

<S>

Eagler

You get this.... Check it out (https://store.steampowered.com/app/990060/War_Online_Pacific/)!

Belittling players because they dont want to play the game your way..... "Base capture? Whats that? This is an a2a combat sim to me"
isnt a good way to keep players.

Change the GV format too much and the majority of the tankers left. Its very rare to see a good GV battle any more. TT was last night and someone posted it was one of the better nights, when I looked in at 830 est they had 11 players.

You want Hitech to force people to play the way you want them to play. That's not how this game works.  We get this great big wonderful playground, and we get together and decide how to fight the war. 

Unfortunately the majority want to horde and roll bases. It leaves a lot to be desired to those players that are looking for strategy missions and co-ordinated ops. Even the fighter guys are getting disheartened due to only seeming to have pickers and runners to go against.

At this time it looks like Hitech doesnt care how the game plays. As you said he gave us "this great big wonderful playground" and left us on our own. Unfortunatley the hordes seem to have the pull these days.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: whiteman on October 02, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
Well this sucks! I've been staying rook to try and add to the guys trying to slow the horde, maybe think about it and fight against it?
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 02, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
Well this sucks! I've been staying rook to try and add to the guys trying to slow the horde, maybe think about it and fight against it?

 :aok :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Max on October 02, 2020, 05:21:21 PM
Country #'s reach parity in late afternoon, eastern time. Rooks and Knights usually have a slight edge over Bish. For whatever reason, Bish #'s are high mornings, EST

Ever consider switching chess pieces?

<S>
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Lusche on October 02, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
Base capture? Whats that?

This is an a2a combat sim to me

Wonder what would happen if it was only limited to that once again.

Once again?
Base capture has been in this game since the very beginnings. Tanks since Tour #3.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 02, 2020, 06:53:00 PM
Dragdad, sure hate to see you go. Your one of those I love going up against in my tank. You are ALWAYS a challenge. Wish you the best and hope to see you back someday.  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: shppr01 on October 02, 2020, 08:23:15 PM
Sorry to see you go Dragdad  Loved seeing you in Tank Wars! Please take care and be safe. If/when you come back, please stop in!!  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Trev95 on October 03, 2020, 12:16:45 AM
I'm sorry to see you go Dragdad, hopefully things will turn around and we will see you again in MNM again someday.  :salute

<S>FBTrev95
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: 1ijac on October 03, 2020, 02:11:40 AM
Dragdad,

    I hope you reconsider after you take a break... BTW .... We could use you in the 8 hour scenario on October 17th.   Would love to see you back when you are ready.

Cheers,   One-eye
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 03, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
Hate to see you go. I logged last night because the knights had too many and I could not fly my 38J. Was not going to be on much longer anyway.... so I logged. This was after the bish won. Not many came back.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Puma44 on October 03, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
Dragdad, come on back.  Join us in the AvA on Monday and Wednesday nights for all fun and no hordes.  It’s always a pleasure to have you in the mix with us AvAers.  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Mano on October 03, 2020, 05:49:35 PM
Just take a break. We all do from time to time.
I think I play more in the winter when there is less to do outside.
Come back this winter.

 :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on October 04, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
Sob Sob Sob

this game hasn't changed since you started playing.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 04, 2020, 05:14:10 AM
Sob Sob Sob

this game hasn't changed since you started playing.

He is a far better player than you will ever be.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: The Fugitive on October 04, 2020, 08:20:34 AM
Sob Sob Sob

this game hasn't changed since you started playing.

Nope, the game hasn't changed at all except for a few upgrades over the years (which may be a problem in its self), but picture it as you favorite bar. The locals hang out there. You know everybody's name, you are tolerant of even of old "Jimbo" when he drinks too much, but its your place to hang out and have some fun.

Then a big new office building opens up and brings in a bunch of new people. They move into the bar and start playing crap music on the juke box, calling for the TVs to be turned to news programs instead of the sports that are normally there (the news that most people go to the bar to get away from). They order all these wussy drinks and throw money around like its nothing so the regulars can no longer get a waitress to stop by.

The bar is the same, the staff is the same, but the atmosphere is completely different. It is no longer the same bar. So why bother going there any more?

The game has gone the same way and people are leaving.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on October 05, 2020, 01:44:42 PM
Never like to see anyone leave, so sorry to hear that your considering it. 
This sim is like war itself, sometimes lopsided (Pearl Harbor) sometimes a stalemate (Bastone) often futile,  sometimes you win the battle lose the war. Thats what makes the successes feel like you earned them. I used to get (even more) frustrated at failures in game because I thought the outcome was all about what I did. But you learn in this game to change your outlook on chaotic situations and realize you can only have an effect. You have to take sollice in your choices and how you execute them. If winning the map is key to your fun, switch to bish for a while and see if rolling bases fills your bucket. 😁 Best of luck
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: pops04 on October 05, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Drag dad sorry to see you go bud. We talk or text a lot of trash to each other. All in fun ya know. But it was always find having you around. Hope to see you again sometime. Also your right numbers game but ya can’t beat the numbers.

Pops
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: captain1ma on October 05, 2020, 08:09:24 PM
sorry to see you go dragdad, you could've just stayed for Monday night madness!! good luck and I hope you change your mind at some point in time!!
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 06, 2020, 12:21:50 AM
when I started playing back in the million player a day game, i felt out of place, I couldnt fight or complete a sorty so I joined the horde, at least i could kill a couple of buildings here and there.

now, i hate it when I cant up a pony and ponies are what kept me in this game.  truth is I hate eny, but I understand it.  I mostly play late at night when we have like 15 knights against 2 or 3 rooks or bishops.  normally eny is at 20.  so I adjusted, i up a p47 with my jamaican/canadian 201 squadron flag on the wings.  there's always a p47 available.  miss the pony but well I like the game so I adapt.

semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: atlau on October 06, 2020, 08:13:36 AM
Switching sides is always an option... except I feel dirty shooting down my previous countrymen.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 06, 2020, 09:33:20 AM
Country loyalty is a problem. I get it, especially for squads. But there are times when the game can be super boring if you do not switch. Like if you team is hording, or your team is playing cards in the tower while there is a fight on the other side of the map
 

Eny is suppose to get people to switch, instead they just log off. That is the a big problem. Eny doesn't take into consideration who is winning the war. Hell you could be losing a major battle or be attacked from both sides while you have a 15 eny.

Late at night ENY is totally pointless. It just causes players to log.
Late at night you are flying against maybe 2 or 3 guys. It doesn't help if you have to fly a 30 eny plane vs their spit16 or yak3.

Too many damn freaking yak3s all over the place. They are incredibly hard to shoot, especially at night or dusk/dawn. Best K/D with the highest amount of kills. Only second to the P51 in kills. Its just tiring.

Eny should not kick in until the MA has more than 75 to 100 players.

Most players don't switch to even #s and you cannot force them. Most people log when they can't fly their super plane causing less fights. Its not good for the game all around.

If people got off their high horse about switching teams, the fights would be better. I try to play for every team and fight against every team. Its much more fun that way for me and I get to go where I want to find the best action for the little time I get to play the game. If you only play on one side, you are severely limiting yourselves to the fun you could be having.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 06, 2020, 11:20:04 AM
The other day I was one of 14 knights. Both bish and rook had around 28 each. They were only attacking the knights. LOL

I signed on and saw that. I switched to bish and started attack the rooks. Figured I would start a war between them. It actually worked.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on October 06, 2020, 12:53:14 PM
Switching sides is always an option... except I feel dirty shooting down my previous countrymen.

Me too unless it you.  :salute

 :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on October 06, 2020, 04:14:05 PM
He is a far better player than you will ever be.

And I should care because????
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 06, 2020, 05:10:21 PM
country loyalty is not a problem violator. i normally play late at night 9pm pst or later, yes we have eny but it's the same crowd. i hardly change countries as the only reason would be to avoid eny.  otoh I'm beginning to enjoy the p47s.

i still enjoy the game, I can fight in a furball if i feel like it or bomb towns or strats if i feel like flying alone. sometimes i even go on a nice ride in a gv.


semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 06, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
country loyalty is not a problem violator. i normally play late at night 9pm pst or later, yes we have eny but it's the same crowd. i hardly change countries as the only reason would be to avoid eny.  otoh I'm beginning to enjoy the p47s.

i still enjoy the game, I can fight in a furball if i feel like it or bomb towns or strats if i feel like flying alone. sometimes i even go on a nice ride in a gv.

If you like the Thunderbolt, you'll love the Corsair.  :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 06, 2020, 05:18:40 PM
country loyalty is not a problem violator.

I think it's pretty easy to make a case that it doesn't help.  With the vast majority being country loyal, myself included mostly against my will, it really limits what you can do.

Most people log in and if they can't find what they want for a fight, they log rather than change sides and possibly enhance gameplay.  But country loyalty, ENY, and the side switch timer have been hashed and rehashed ad nauseum.  They all combine to produce what we have when numbers are low, and they ain't changing anytime soon.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 06, 2020, 06:32:10 PM
With the vast majority being country loyal, myself included mostly against my will,

How's that work, exactly? Shock collar? Your family is held hostage?
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 06, 2020, 07:19:18 PM
And I should care because????
I raised my kids well. I'm not raising anyone else's.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 06, 2020, 11:08:09 PM
How's that work, exactly? Shock collar? Your family is held hostage?

Pretty simple really.  Squad is country loyal.  I would prefer to fly with them than not.  I won't switch because if some of them show up and I'm stuck on the other side, it's no fun.  And I don't care to ask them to switch.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2020, 07:08:55 AM
Squad is 'country' loyal.  I would prefer ...  I won't switch ...  And I don't care ...

Excuses noted ;). (Squad night every night? That's amazing.)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 07, 2020, 07:57:31 AM
Excuses noted ;). (Squad night every night? That's amazing.)

I realize it may be difficult for you to imagine but other people have friends and often enjoy their company.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2020, 08:11:35 AM
I realize it may be difficult for you to imagine but other people have friends and often enjoy their company.

Not difficult at all. People also tend to gravitate to similar personalities. In my squad we take into account the situation in the arena and are willing to adjust to improve the experience for everyone. And even if we end up with someone who is stuck to a side because of a recent switch, there is no animosity or resentment over it and each one of us have friendships across the spectrum (and are welcomed wherever we fly). So, actually, we probably have many more friends in the game than your 'country' centric squad. If you want to rationalize why you 'can't' switch sides, by all means. It really is your decision.  :aok
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 07, 2020, 08:17:16 AM
Not difficult at all. People also tend to gravitate to similar personalities. In my squad we take into account the situation in the arena and are willing to adjust to improve the experience for everyone. And even if we end up with someone who is stuck to a side because of a recent switch, there is no animosity or resentment over it and each one of us have friendships across the spectrum (and are welcomed wherever we fly). So, actually, we probably have many more friends in the game than your 'country' centric squad. If you want to rationalize why you 'can't' switch sides, by all means. It really is your decision.  :aok

Well, the main thing is you found a way to feel superior to people.  :aok

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2020, 08:36:40 AM
Well, the main thing is you found a way to feel superior to people (me).  :aok

That's all you got from my response? Myeah, ok.  :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 07, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
I realize it may be difficult for you to imagine but other people have friends and often enjoy their company.

Wiley.

While he may not have been PC in his response, the flip side is there are a lot of new friends to make on the other sides.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 07, 2020, 09:54:16 AM
While he may not have been PC in his response, the flip side is there are a lot of new friends to make on the other sides.

Yep.  There are plenty of reasons, advantages, and disadvantages to doing both.  People make their choices based on the relative weights of those advantages and disadvantages to them.  Back when the switch time was inadvertantly set to 1 hour, I used to switch often.  If a squaddie showed up, I usually only had minutes to wait before I could switch back.

He asked.  I told him.  He dismissed my response as "excuses" and set himself up as one of the "enlightened people that choose to improve the experience for the poor, misguided peons who don't".

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2020, 10:01:07 AM
He asked.  I told him.  He dismissed my response as "excuses" and set himself up as one of the "enlightened people that choose to improve the experience for the poor, misguided peons who don't".

In other words, I was 'too' blunt and your feelings got butthurt? C'mon, you're bound to be less fragile than that (see? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

If you don't ever want to ever change sides ever (because, as you posted, not switching 'is mostly against your 'will' ... or not really) then own up to it. It's ok. But don't try to lay on me a litany of excuses that don't really float. Alright now, friends? :)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Wiley on October 07, 2020, 10:10:01 AM
In other words, I was 'too' blunt and your feelings got butthurt? C'mon, you're bound to be less fragile than that (see? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Not butthurt at all, I simply responded in kind and pointed out what you were really saying.

Quote
If you don't ever want to ever change sides ever (because, as you posted, not switching 'is mostly against your 'will' ... or not really) then own up to it. It's ok. But don't try to lay on me a litany of excuses that don't really float. Alright now, friends? :)

It's little to do with "side" and mostly to do with "squad".  Nothing is perfect.  One of the minor downsides (for me) with my squad is they don't switch.  The rest of the things about the squad more than make up for that to me.

I wish the game was treated more like pickup football by the players instead of the rabid country loyalty most seem to exhibit, but that's not the way it works.  I have made my choices, and I live with them.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2020, 10:14:34 AM
I wish the game was treated more like pickup football by the players instead of the rabid country loyalty most seem to exhibit, but that's not the way it works (for me).  I have made my choices, and I live with them.

That, I can respect.  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: icepac on October 07, 2020, 11:30:32 AM

Every year, a couple facets of gameplay are lost but many were here for the variety of action.

Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 07, 2020, 12:22:57 PM

I wish the game was treated more like pickup football by the players instead of the rabid country loyalty most seem to exhibit, but that's not the way it works.  I have made my choices, and I live with them.

Wiley.


Would be great indeed.....
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 07, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
Its tough when there really is no "path to follow" objectives. When you log in and see both teams doubling teaming the knights, then in the evening, both teams double teaming the bish. There is nothing a single player can do. You can scream on channel for 30 min to attack the other team, but no one will listen. That makes it tough for the "take bases/win the war" crowd, which can be frustrating for players.

If one player switches it doesn't change ENY very much or at all. There is no incentive for players to switch other than they can fly their super plane on the other team, but that doesn't mean they will find fights with it either.

Its a do what you will type of game and with that, means a lack of organizational strategy. This can be frustrating, but that is just how the game is. Thats why I really don't think ENY with lower than 75 players works because generally players aren't working together and fighting 2 or 3 guys really doesn't make it any more lopsided than it normally is. I think players not being able to fly their super plane vs 2 or 3 guys is pointless and will probably just get them to log. If anything just make the planes be perked.

I honestly think ENY for late war planes should be under 10 and most of them should be perked 1-5 perks. There has got to be more incentives in flying mid war planes. Fighting a bunch of yak3s i think has turned a lot of players off.
Just because a plane doesn't have ord, doesn't mean they arent effective in other areas like fighters where the majority of players spend their time.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 07, 2020, 03:49:35 PM
so you have targets on both fronts you complain, no targets on any front you complain.

semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on October 07, 2020, 04:55:16 PM
I raised my kids well. I'm not raising anyone else's.

Now starting in left field
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 07, 2020, 05:22:01 PM
so you have targets on both fronts you complain, no targets on any front you complain.

semp

You clearly missed my point. I'm talking about the win the war crowd and lack of organizational strategy.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 07, 2020, 06:20:55 PM
You clearly missed my point. I'm talking about the win the war crowd and lack of organizational strategy.

you talking to the win the war, and yes strategy.  there's a few of us,  we just don't scream on country.  people always join us.


semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: SPKmes on October 07, 2020, 07:29:56 PM
There is only momentum when the numbers are right... 14 -0 is the right number .... it works and it is glorious

Seriously ... the imbalance at the time you are talking about semp is just caustic ...
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: whiteman on October 07, 2020, 08:25:07 PM
It was me and 10 rooks the other night vs. 31 knights and 12 bish, I appreciated the eny. Had the field 4 of us were defending had vehicle spawn ins it would have been pointless to put up a fight. We could handle A6m3, F4F and F4U-1.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: guncrasher on October 08, 2020, 05:13:39 AM
There is only momentum when the numbers are right... 14 -0 is the right number .... it works and it is glorious

Seriously ... the imbalance at the time you are talking about semp is just caustic ...

maybe but bishops and rooks won't take my calls anymore when they have no players online.

however sometimes it's hilarious, few days ago, we couldn't take a port, auto ack would pop just at the right moment. we probably could have won the war if we had left the port alone, but it became personal. by the time we went to the next base 2 rooks were awake, eny was only like 25+. so they killed us all at will, but i had fun.


semp
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on October 08, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
I raised my kids well. I'm not raising anyone else's.

 :rofl  Classic.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: SPKmes on October 08, 2020, 12:28:28 PM
maybe but bishops and rooks won't take my calls anymore when they have no players online.

however sometimes it's hilarious, few days ago, we couldn't take a port, auto ack would pop just at the right moment. we probably could have won the war if we had left the port alone, but it became personal. by the time we went to the next base 2 rooks were awake, eny was only like 25+. so they killed us all at will, but i had fun.


semp

yeah I was the goon driver on the first drop...still don't know what happened to that first trooper....he just died... but logged in and saw the call and of I went...it wasn't till I was on my way I looked at the numbers and went...pathetic..(to be honest I already knew the deal...it has been that way for a few tours).. and changed sides...but by the time the 30mins was up that I gave before turning my attention to Knits it was all over and they were attacking bish and I was stuck. I did manage to get a good Ju88 run in though (only a little shovel was used in the production of the last couple of sentences hahaha)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: BSB on October 08, 2020, 01:43:51 PM
Sorry to see you go Dragdad.  You have been a great squaddie.  Good winds to you and check back in every so often.  You will be missed.

Craig
BSB in game
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: alskahawk on October 09, 2020, 02:42:51 AM
 Can't blame you. It just wasn't fun anymore. Miss the people. Not the BS.

 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: HL117 on October 17, 2020, 04:49:36 PM
Still relieved that I found out you were a Drag car racer and not the "other kind of drag dad.     : :lol


<S>
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 17, 2020, 04:50:25 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 18, 2020, 02:33:38 AM
Can't blame you. It just wasn't fun anymore. Miss the people. Not the BS.
Miss you too,Brother! While I havnt been around as long....? I remember VIVIDLY, how exciting fighting YOU was!! What would it take, to get you playing again? HONEST QUESTION!!! If I have to send 6 cases of Scotland's best to Dale...worth it!!!! Losing you fellers breaks my Heart!!!! Brother...I would pay your Subscription, if for nothing more than you giving Monday Night Madness a go!!!!!!! Same goes for Dragdad as well!! You wont be disappointed!! My Niece has started playing(since May 15 ish) and how can I teach Her, without Awesome Adversaries?  I AM SERIOUS!!!! Mon Night Madness is ABSOLUTELY the most fun I have ever experienced, in AH!   I bet $15.00 that I am RIGHT! Best $15:00 I have ever spent!!! GIVE IT A GO!!!
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: lutrel on October 19, 2020, 08:46:27 AM
Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug; I like defending as much or more than attacking.  Never worried much about scores, but I am a die hard country loyalist; even I have standards.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on October 19, 2020, 11:30:09 AM
Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug; I like defending as much or more than attacking.  Never worried much about scores, but I am a die hard country loyalist; even I have standards.

I am acountry loyalist too. Whichever country I am on.... I fight for.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on October 19, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
I am acountry loyalist too. Whichever country I am on.... I fight for.

 :old: :aok :cheers:
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: BHawk51 on November 13, 2020, 08:10:37 AM
I'm not far behind you Dragdad. Been fun flying with ya, but I too will be taking my money elsewhere as soon as I burn up perks.

I can handle the SB's with early warning radar on some maps, the plane-to-plane RIO dar detection stuff, and some of the other silly nuances, but this latest Disable side balancing is the last straw. For the AM crew we are usually outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, which I understand but now to have 4 hot fighters on my set B29's is baloney.

Low numbers and the decline continues. I guess HighTech just riding the wave out until it beaches.

Repent...The END IS NEAR 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Puma44 on November 13, 2020, 08:17:10 AM
Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug; I like defending as much or more than attacking.  Never worried much about scores, but I am a die hard country loyalist; even I have standards.

Wait!  There are scores?!
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on November 13, 2020, 08:36:59 AM
  I AM SERIOUS!!!! Mon Night Madness is ABSOLUTELY the most fun I have ever experienced, in AH!   I bet $15.00 that I am RIGHT! Best $15:00 I have ever spent!!! GIVE IT A GO!!!

The best action in Aces High is MnM. You will not find that kind of FUN in any other arena. Flying alongside sworn enemies of another MA country you will find that they are cool people as well and gives you a new outlook. The plane sets are custom and if you ask nicely they may enable a requested plane. Under 4K fighting in-between skyscraper buildings.

Stop in and find out what you have been missing everyone. The Axis vs Allies arena is making a comeback. 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 13, 2020, 08:46:40 AM
Wait!  There are scores?!

I wonder if they track trees killed?
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Puma44 on November 13, 2020, 09:17:54 AM
I wonder if they track trees killed?

Yeah!  I could definitely be a contenda!
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 13, 2020, 11:29:53 AM
Yeah!  I could definitely be a contenda!

I would have the 5 leaf cluster
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 13, 2020, 11:52:57 AM
(https://medallic.medalcraft.com/images/gallery/stock3/stock3_15_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Puma44 on November 13, 2020, 05:34:14 PM
I would have the 5 leaf cluster

Don’t forget the Purple Heart for all the tree branches in the face wounds.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RotBaron on November 14, 2020, 12:06:11 PM
I'm not far behind you Dragdad. Been fun flying with ya, but I too will be taking my money elsewhere as soon as I burn up perks.

I can handle the SB's with early warning radar on some maps, the plane-to-plane RIO dar detection stuff, and some of the other silly nuances, but this latest Disable side balancing is the last straw. For the AM crew we are usually outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, which I understand but now to have 4 hot fighters on my set B29's is baloney.

Low numbers and the decline continues. I guess HighTech just riding the wave out until it beaches.

Repent...The END IS NEAR

I know there are many recent threads about ENY but why was ENY done away with?

Did Hitech post any reason for doing it?
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 14, 2020, 12:22:45 PM
I know there are many recent threads about ENY but why was ENY done away with?

Did Hitech post any reason for doing it?

Likely, to show everyone why it exists.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 14, 2020, 12:40:33 PM
I know there are many recent threads about ENY but why was ENY done away with?

Did Hitech post any reason for doing it?

There was a hand full of people complaining they couldn't fly their monster ride while on the high number side. In very low number times it was a problem. Now without it..... it is a much larger problem I guess.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RotBaron on November 14, 2020, 04:03:35 PM
Likely, to show everyone why it exists.

Is it working iyo?

When I’m on it’s hard to tell, I aim for evening hours with more targets. I’ve heard both yea & nay but really not that much either way.

A different topic is kind of dominating 200...
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: alskahawk on November 17, 2020, 12:12:01 AM
Miss you too,Brother! While I havnt been around as long....? I remember VIVIDLY, how exciting fighting YOU was!! What would it take, to get you playing again? HONEST QUESTION!!! If I have to send 6 cases of Scotland's best to Dale...worth it!!!! Losing you fellers breaks my Heart!!!! Brother...I would pay your Subscription, if for nothing more than you giving Monday Night Madness a go!!!!!!! Same goes for Dragdad as well!! You wont be disappointed!! My Niece has started playing(since May 15 ish) and how can I teach Her, without Awesome Adversaries?  I AM SERIOUS!!!! Mon Night Madness is ABSOLUTELY the most fun I have ever experienced, in AH!   I bet $15.00 that I am RIGHT! Best $15:00 I have ever spent!!! GIVE IT A GO!!!

 As is known, we were a small squad and we lost two of our members. My good friend Joe being one of them. After that my heart wasn't really in it. Maybe one day.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2020, 07:05:08 AM
As is known, we were a small squad and we lost two of our members. My good friend Joe being one of them. After that my heart wasn't really in it. Maybe one day.

Understood. Rest in peace, Joe.  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 17, 2020, 09:42:14 AM
Is it working iyo?

When I’m on it’s hard to tell, I aim for evening hours with more targets. I’ve heard both yea & nay but really not that much either way.

A different topic is kind of dominating 200...

Eny restrictions don't work because if both high # teams are fighting each other, it defeats the purpose. Both teams could gang the low # side. It wouldn't matter because even with even sides 2 sides ganging one side itcreates an embalance. If both teams took all of the low sides bases, those teams would have to fight each other to win. Generally it comes down to the size of the fight you are currently in, so even if your side has the low $s, it could be winning the current fight. In essence what you have with ENY restrictions is the high #s teams logging off when they can't jabo or fly P51Ds to attack the other high # team  thus creating lower #s in the arena, thus making the fights smaller and the #s lower. In fighter planes you can still fly yak3s most of the time, so getting jumped by 3 of them is no different than getting jumped by 3 la7s or spits. Therefore you will get ganged regardless of the eny cap anyway.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2020, 10:43:01 AM
Eny restrictions don't work because if both high # teams are fighting each other, it defeats the purpose.

ENY works as designed. It restricts the higher populated side when there is a major imbalance. If two sides are that way, it restricts them both but not the third. The lower numbered side is unrestricted. Players are broken.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 17, 2020, 11:54:03 AM
ENY works as designed. It restricts the higher populated side when there is a major imbalance. If two sides are that way, it restricts them both but not the third. The lower numbered side is unrestricted. Players are broken.

The low #s side is low because there is none or very little action on that side in the AM. Why would players want to switch to a side with no action? If you restrict both high # sides with eny, they will log because they cannot attack the other side with high #s with jabo planes. Therefore both teams are now stuck in low eny planes which means players are going to log off due to boredom. When these players log off, It makes the fights smaller all around and makes the #s lower all around. Personally, I like that either A. These planes get perked higher rather than totally restricted. Or B. The low #s side has bases that are harder to capture, ie harsher ack, 15 minute down times only, ect. I simply believe that restrictions on flying planes makes more log off rather than help the low #s side be more successful. 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
You're not describing broken design. You're describing broken play. The 'no fight' argument is driven by players not initiating one. Fights don't really require being only a couple of minutes away. But the fight will get closer once initiated.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 17, 2020, 11:59:52 AM
The low #s side is low because there is none or very little action on that side in the AM. Why would players want to switch to a side with no action? If you restrict both high # sides with eny, they will log because they cannot attack the other side with high #s with jabo planes. Therefore both teams are now stuck in low eny planes which means players are going to log off due to boredom. When these players log off, It makes the fights smaller all around and makes the #s lower all around. Personally, I like that either A. These planes get perked higher rather than totally restricted. Or B. The low #s side has bases that are harder to capture, ie harsher ack, 15 minute down times only, ect. I simply believe that restrictions on flying planes makes more log off rather than help the low #s side be more successful.

Usually most of the action is on the low number side as both other sides are attacking.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 17, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
Usually most of the action is on the low number side as both other sides are attacking.

Refer to my post above the one you quoted.

Generally I never see both sides attacking the low #s side. In any case, eny wouldn't matter because both teams ganging 1 would still put the one team at a disadvantage even with even #s. Both teams can only take so many bases anyway. So eventually they would have to take the other teams bases to win. If they have to fly 109fs to win the map, they arent going to have fun with that and will log.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
If they have to fly 109fs to win the map, they arent going to have fun with that and will log.

Broken .... players.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on November 19, 2020, 06:23:38 AM
There was a hand full of people complaining they couldn't fly their monster ride while on the high number side. In very low number times it was a problem. Now without it..... it is a much larger problem I guess.

NOT this
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on November 19, 2020, 06:26:04 AM
ENY works as designed. It restricts the higher populated side when there is a major imbalance. If two sides are that way, it restricts them both but not the third. The lower numbered side is unrestricted. Players are broken.

NOT this either. Arlo does play, he’s only on the boards so this is all conjecture.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2020, 06:48:40 AM
Arlo does play, he’s only on the boards so this is all conjecture.

Arlo does play, he's only on the boards?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2020, 06:57:36 AM
Minutes ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/8epxNF6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/XlsS130.png)

Talk about conjecture. ;)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Ramesis on November 19, 2020, 02:37:08 PM
Minutes ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/8epxNF6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/XlsS130.png)

Talk about conjecture. ;)

That is a snapshot in time... not what occurs over 24 hrs
 :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Lazerr on November 19, 2020, 02:46:38 PM
That is a snapshot in time... not what occurs over 24 hrs
 :salute

Yeah and id bet the map was reset recently too, without even logging in ans checking the war status.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
That is a snapshot in time... not what occurs over 24 hrs
 :salute

You're not acknowledging what it is in response to.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: rvflyer on November 19, 2020, 03:30:16 PM
3 Bish on late last night, Myself,Cheetah and Troggdor, We were being attached by a hoard of Knits, forget which base but it was a blast as a lot of Nits lost their cartoon lives before we were over whelmed. Was still fun. Anyone that complains about not being able to find a fight is not trying or the game is not being played to their liking. I can fly solo to just about any base of one of the other chess countries and someone will up to defend most of the time. People the leave and complain it is the games fault are just using that as an excuse, they are probably playing so much they burn out as happens with any other game. Myself as a real life pilot and flight instructor find modeling of the planes here much better than the modeling in some of the pretty eye candy war sim games. Is it old tech? Of course it is but still one of the best WWll fighter sims going. I have tried the rest and always come back because the camaraderie is better here than any of the other games out there. The caustic language that goes on makes Ace's High seem like a church choir. When I see someone leave the game it is always the same whiners that pop up on the forum and say yeah right the game has gone to hell yeah yeah.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on November 19, 2020, 07:59:18 PM
Arlo does play, he's only on the boards?  :headscratch:

Typo. Meant to say you DON'T play. But you're the most opiniated guy on the boards about game play....that you don't do.  Just sayin'  :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Oldman731 on November 19, 2020, 08:02:58 PM
3 Bish on late last night, Myself,Cheetah and Troggdor, We were being attached by a hoard of Knits, forget which base but it was a blast as a lot of Nits lost their cartoon lives before we were over whelmed. Was still fun. Anyone that complains about not being able to find a fight is not trying or the game is not being played to their liking. I can fly solo to just about any base of one of the other chess countries and someone will up to defend most of the time. People the leave and complain it is the games fault are just using that as an excuse, they are probably playing so much they burn out as happens with any other game. Myself as a real life pilot and flight instructor find modeling of the planes here much better than the modeling in some of the pretty eye candy war sim games. Is it old tech? Of course it is but still one of the best WWll fighter sims going. I have tried the rest and always come back because the camaraderie is better here than any of the other games out there. The caustic language that goes on makes Ace's High seem like a church choir. When I see someone leave the game it is always the same whiners that pop up on the forum and say yeah right the game has gone to hell yeah yeah.


Agreed.

- oldman
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2020, 08:56:59 PM
Typo. Meant to say you DON'T play. But you're the most opiniated guy on the boards about game play....that you don't do.  Just sayin'  :salute

I knew what you meant. Apparently I do play. Hoisted by your own conjecture.  :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Vinkman on November 19, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
I knew what you meant. Apparently I do play. Hoisted by your own conjecture.  :D

Now everyone will think so.  :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2020, 11:22:50 PM
Now everyone will think so.  :D

Vink, my friend, there will indeed come a day soon that I'm no longer playing this game in any capacity nor will I be posting on the forum. It won't be because I stopped supporting and promoting it and it won't be out of a sense of juvenile protest. It'll be because I'm blind. That day isn't today, however. Now you can post your feelings, your presumptions and your wishes, it's not like my recognizing those for what they are ever stopped you or even caused you a millisecond of reflection or insight. But don't think others see them as 'facts.' Carry on, sunshine.  :D
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: 1stpar3 on November 21, 2020, 01:06:41 AM
As is known, we were a small squad and we lost two of our members. My good friend Joe being one of them. After that my heart wasn't really in it. Maybe one day.
Yeah, I heard that, AND COMPLETELEY UNDERSTAND,Sir! Just know that you are missed  :salute   Meant what I said about Monday Night Madness! From what I remember about you guys, this would be right up you guy's STYLE OF FUN! Think about it! We need help keeping my Niece's ego, in check....she is getting big for her britches :rofl  I blame my Sis! :devil Love ya,Brother :salute
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 21, 2020, 03:56:59 AM
Yes....  lilbliz is starting to be called the bigchill.  :rofl
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Traveler on November 21, 2020, 01:58:12 PM
Base capture? Whats that?

This is an a2a combat sim to me

Wonder what would happen if it was only limited to that once again.

Best of luck DD

Let us know if you find a better ww2 on line sim out there



I have not

<S>

Eagler

To belittle his stated reasons for leaving does no one any good, your refusal to even consider that others play a different aspect of the game for enjoyment is just short sighted.  At one time there were multiple main arenas because there were over 600 players in the MA,  You might think about that while contemplating where all the players went and why?
   
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 21, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
To belittle his stated reasons for leaving does no one any good, your refusal to even consider that others play a different aspect of the game for enjoyment is just short sighted.  At one time there were multiple main arenas because there were over 600 players in the MA,  You might think about that while contemplating where all the players went and why?
 

You might want to find someone else to rant at as Eagler is one that is good for the game.

If someone is unable to improve their play to where they are happy in the game, then maybe this one is not for them.  Many folks today depend on buying theirselfs better. Not actually making themselves better.  Not that the OP is one... but that is another issue we face today. Something in gaming we had a word for back in the day is acceptable today and companies make lots of money off those types.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2020, 04:25:04 PM
You might want to find someone else to rant at as Eagler is one that is good for the game.

If someone is unable to improve their play to where they are happy in the game, then maybe this one is not for them.  Many folks today depend on buying theirselfs better. Not actually making themselves better.  Not that the OP is one... but that is another issue we face today. Something in gaming we had a word for back in the day is acceptable today and companies make lots of money off those types.

Well, some of us are happy just to still be able to play, kill skillz or not. ;)
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: The Fugitive on November 21, 2020, 05:55:25 PM
You might want to find someone else to rant at as Eagler is one that is good for the game.

If someone is unable to improve their play to where they are happy in the game, then maybe this one is not for them.  Many folks today depend on buying theirselfs better. Not actually making themselves better.  Not that the OP is one... but that is another issue we face today. Something in gaming we had a word for back in the day is acceptable today and companies make lots of money off those types.

Traveler has a point, you too sometimes belittle players who play the game differently than you.

Eagler, and you like the A2A aspect of the game, others like Mothman, DR7 and Mano like the GV aspect. Some like squad operations and wingman tactics like Traveler and his "Lightning" bunch. The point is with the number we have alienating any of these players isnt good for the game. What Eagler said is bad for the game. Belittling other players because they dont play the game the way you do is not good for the game.

The game was designed to be played many ways. DR7 isnt a stella fighter pilot but he is one of the best GVers Just because he doesnt get better at the fighter aspect of the game doesnt mean he isnt right for this game. Far too often a players comments, complaints, or suggestions are pounced on by a bunch of the BBS "yahoos" and that isnt good for the game. Its just as bad as bullying a player in the game. We should be looking to KEEP as many players as possible, not chase them away with comments like " Base capture? Whats that? "
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on November 21, 2020, 06:11:51 PM

 Far too often a players comments, complaints, or suggestions are pounced on by a bunch of the BBS "yahoos" and that isnt good for the game.

That will never change
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 22, 2020, 12:27:10 AM
Traveler has a point, you too sometimes belittle players who play the game differently than you.

Eagler, and you like the A2A aspect of the game, others like Mothman, DR7 and Mano like the GV aspect. Some like squad operations and wingman tactics like Traveler and his "Lightning" bunch. The point is with the number we have alienating any of these players isnt good for the game. What Eagler said is bad for the game. Belittling other players because they dont play the game the way you do is not good for the game.

The game was designed to be played many ways. DR7 isnt a stella fighter pilot but he is one of the best GVers Just because he doesnt get better at the fighter aspect of the game doesnt mean he isnt right for this game. Far too often a players comments, complaints, or suggestions are pounced on by a bunch of the BBS "yahoos" and that isnt good for the game. Its just as bad as bullying a player in the game. We should be looking to KEEP as many players as possible, not chase them away with comments like " Base capture? Whats that? "

Well I can tell you I supported this game for over a year when I could not even play. My home was flooded and I was in my RV in the drive for over a year while it was being rebuilt. I don't take kindly to the ones who rant and rave and really have nothing to complain about. Maybe they need to lose their home,  a leg, or a family member, to put things in perspective.

This is a game. Enjoy it while you can and quit trying to run the company. If yall think you are so good at running a game company.... yall should all start one.

The game is not the problem, it is the players.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: The Fugitive on November 22, 2020, 12:40:54 AM
Well I can tell you I supported this game for over a year when I could not even play. My home was flooded and I was in my RV in the drive for over a year while it was being rebuilt. I don't take kindly to the ones who rant and rave and really have nothing to complain about. Maybe they need to lose their home,  a leg, or a family member, to put things in perspective.

This is a game. Enjoy it while you can and quit trying to run the company. If yall think you are so good at running a game company.... yall should all start one.

The game is not the problem, it is the players.

100 percent agree with the bolded.

Just because you have had issues in your life and continued to support the game doesnt give you the right to belittle other players, nothing does. You have no idea what other players have had to deal with.

Players can complain and suggest as they will. If you dont agree that is your prerogative, however it doesnt give the right to belittle their point of view.

That will never change

Unfortunately that is true. It is too bad that players, old or new cant voice an opinion WITHOUT the BBS yahoos dog piling them.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 22, 2020, 12:44:53 AM
100 percent agree with the bolded.

Just because you have had issues in your life and continued to support the game doesnt give you the right to belittle other players, nothing does. You have no idea what other players have had to deal with.

Players can complain and suggest as they will. If you dont agree that is your prerogative, however it doesnt give the right to belittle their point of view.

Unfortunately that is true. It is too bad that players, old or new cant voice an opinion WITHOUT the BBS yahoos dog piling them.

But it's their prerogative......
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Eagler on November 22, 2020, 06:23:31 AM
Hey fugitive who is belittling who now?

This bbs yahoo has never told anyone else how to play this game.

As I am not a tanker I do not find it anywhere near as enjoyable as fighters.

The game is titled as an air to air sim and that is how it started

Excuse me if I think it was better then than now with the base capture whining

Seems to me those that cant fly in this flying game crawl around on the ground and hide in trees and whine when they cant see each other.

Eagler
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: RichardDarkwood on November 22, 2020, 07:17:16 AM

Seems to me those that cant fly in this flying game crawl around on the ground and hide in trees and whine when they cant see each other.

Eagler

That is not always the case. The LTAR's learned how to fly. Just the other day in a ol school mission dr7 landed 11 kills in a P-47. A lot of players play both aspects of this game myself included.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: LCADolby on November 22, 2020, 07:37:03 AM
Exceptions to the rule to support and validate your point (on both sides of this discussion) can and are often easily found, but don't pretend they are the norm.
It's disingenuous, and is harmful to any follow on posts you make.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 22, 2020, 09:18:55 AM
The game is not the problem, it is the players.

 :aok :cheers:
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Traveler on November 22, 2020, 09:24:55 AM
You might want to find someone else to rant at as Eagler is one that is good for the game.

If someone is unable to improve their play to where they are happy in the game, then maybe this one is not for them.  Many folks today depend on buying theirselfs better. Not actually making themselves better.  Not that the OP is one... but that is another issue we face today. Something in gaming we had a word for back in the day is acceptable today and companies make lots of money off those types.
Not a rant, just an observation and one stated opinion.  But please do explain how one buys theirself better, in a game with a fixed price that includes everything?
 
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: The Fugitive on November 22, 2020, 10:06:44 AM
Hey fugitive who is belittling who now?
Wasnt belittling anyone, just pointing out we should be working to KEEP players instead of telling them that if they cant handle it here, to move on.
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This bbs yahoo has never told anyone else how to play this game.
LOL!!! you just did! By telling them that the base capture way of play isnt what they should be playing.
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As I am not a tanker I do not find it anywhere near as enjoyable as fighters.
and that is you. Other people play the game other ways and seeing as how HTC ADDED these features to the game Im guessing its ok to to play the base capture, or GV game if a person wants.
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The game is titled as an air to air sim and that is how it started
  Yes and the web page is very much out of date and needs a major overhaul. If your so sure that A2A is the way to go as a stand alone game feature you could try WWI arena, the AvsA arena, or  War Online Pacific (https://store.steampowered.com/app/990060/War_Online_Pacific/). I know they dont seem to carry the numbers the main arena does but dont let that discourage you, its a popular type of game play.
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Excuse me if I think it was better then than now with the base capture whining
  Yes it was better "then" because we had over 600 players on each night.
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Seems to me those that cant fly in this flying game crawl around on the ground and hide in trees and whine when they cant see each other.

Eagler
  Why are you worried about them crawling around on the ground and hiding in the trees, You an A2A guy, go find a fight.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 22, 2020, 11:41:07 PM
Not a rant, just an observation and one stated opinion.  But please do explain how one buys theirself better, in a game with a fixed price that includes everything?
 

 :aok

Reference to other games, not this one. I probably could have been a little more clear on that point.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Arlo on November 23, 2020, 07:18:02 AM
:aok

Reference to other games, not this one. I probably could have been a little more clear on that point.

And it's not like this forum hasn't had any selfish requests to buy perks or buy ENY immunity.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Shuffler on November 23, 2020, 10:51:35 AM
And it's not like this forum hasn't had any selfish requests to buy perks or buy ENY immunity.

On that note, I would love to be able to tag new players so that we could donate perks to allow them to try perked planes and get a taste of those in the MA.

I would like to do that. No idea if it would help the game or not. I sure can't use all of them.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: TheBug on November 23, 2020, 11:20:37 AM
So people buying stuff to make them "better", like perks, is bad.  But you giving perks to them is good?  I'm not saying I am for or against either, just trying to understand.
Title: Re: Cancelled account, doesn't make sense in this horde format anymore
Post by: Eagler on November 23, 2020, 11:47:07 AM
I would fly the other arenas but they are empty just about every night except Monday where youll find me in MNM

Eagler