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Title: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 26, 2021, 01:21:10 PM
What do you guys think of this PC?  I won't be using VR as I plan to continue using a mouse.

Will this run other games like DCS and such if AH goes away in the future?

Any better alternatives?

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala237/p/N82E16883360101?item=N82E16883360101
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Bizman on June 26, 2021, 01:53:24 PM
For longevity the GTX1650 seems a bit underpowered, then again the next up with the 1660S is $200 more expensive. Based on benchmarks the 1650 is 40% weaker than the 1660 Super so there's quite big a difference.

Both should run AH with ease on a 60 Hz monitor up to 1440p, can't tell about more demanding games
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 26, 2021, 01:57:23 PM
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala247/p/N82E16883360151

Is this the one you mean?
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Bizman on June 26, 2021, 04:02:48 PM
Yepp, that's the one.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Busher on June 26, 2021, 04:20:36 PM
Either will run AH really well with graphics sliders set to your own taste.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 26, 2021, 04:29:12 PM
Pulled the trigger on the 2nd one with a new 27inch monitor.  I may give a joystick and vr a try too
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Drano on June 26, 2021, 10:25:51 PM


I may give a joystick a try too

Like hell you say! End of an era!



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Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 27, 2021, 04:04:26 PM

Like hell you say! End of an era!



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The amount of suckage is going to be strong for awhile...
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: mechanic on June 27, 2021, 04:11:22 PM
You need this stick man. Built in early 90's, still the best ever unless you want to spend hundreds on a really pro setup. You'll find one on ebay for $20 with no effort.

Microsoft Sidewinder FF2


(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R50a36c541d9dfa863cb37ef46658404b?rik=w4pkgQz1FSdgvg&pid=ImgRaw)
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 27, 2021, 06:28:24 PM
You need this stick man. Built in early 90's, still the best ever unless you want to spend hundreds on a really pro setup. You'll find one on ebay for $20 with no effort.

Microsoft Sidewinder FF2


(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R50a36c541d9dfa863cb37ef46658404b?rik=w4pkgQz1FSdgvg&pid=ImgRaw)

You trying to get me shot down more?   :D
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: mechanic on June 27, 2021, 08:21:05 PM
You trying to get me shot down more?   :D

Always!

But genuinely, if you don't want to go full power on an expensive setup this old girl will see you good. I've only ever flown with this stick and absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Eagler on June 28, 2021, 07:46:20 AM
The t1600m with its throttle was the best bang per buck b4 the covid price hike

https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960778-Thrustmaster-T16000M-HOTAS/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=tm16000m+hotas&qid=1624884256&sprefix=tm1600&sr=8-3

Probably still is

Go vr and you will not go back

Eagler
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 28, 2021, 11:04:03 AM
That is pretty reasonable.  What about VR?  Suggestions there?

I'm clueless on both.  I don't mind dumping some coin on a nice setup
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Bizman on June 28, 2021, 11:43:28 AM
For VR even the GTX1660 Super is most likely too weak.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Drano on June 28, 2021, 11:57:09 AM
The 1060 on my older PC would start my Oculus RiftS but almost immediately lock up. I upgraded at the time to a 2060 6gb. It's been fine for AH max'd out. IL-2 I have to dial graphics settings back some. Clouds are really a killer there in VR. Thing is even that 2060 is on the ridiculous list these days. Going for double what I paid for it new. The whole GPU thing is gonna settle out soon.... Uhh.. Right?

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Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Eagler on June 28, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
Price of a decent video card is the holdup for vr today

Need a min of a 1070 IMO and they are highway robbery these days

I would get the t1600m hotas, ch peds and trackir for now

To go from a mouse to that will be quite the jump

Eagler
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: mikeWe9a on June 28, 2021, 12:38:25 PM
It seems that prices should begin to drop at least somewhat soon.  NVidia has allegedly shifted all 3060 production to their "light hash rate" model, and is supposedly going to shift more of their other card production to LHR as well.  Crypto prices have dropped significantly lately, and hopefully there won't be as much demand for the cards as miners for a while.

Mike
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Bizman on June 28, 2021, 02:17:23 PM
Thing is even that 2060 is on the ridiculous list these days. Going for double what I paid for it new. The whole GPU thing is gonna settle out soon.... Uhh.. Right?
Hopefully so. The Nvidia ##60's have always been the lowest "gaming level" cards for an affordable price, now you can get an entire X-Box console with a pad for the price of one. For the price of a more serious gaming rig you can get a PS5 with VR and other stuff.

Since mid-nineties or even longer the price of a "sane" high end PC was a bit less than 2000 euros or the equivalent sum in the previous monetary unit. That held true until the virtual coin rush. Now it's tough to get an entry level gamer for that.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 28, 2021, 02:54:07 PM
Is lists that card as VR ready, but apparently it isn't?

Might hold off on VR till I can dump a new card in it when things settle down, and just work on stick flying with max graphics for now.

The reason for the upgrade was pretty much the fact I had a ten year  old Dell with a shifty harddrive and everything was simply outdated.  38maw helped me out with a card a few years back, and I put a power supply and ram in it, but it was just time to take a step up. 
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Lazerr on June 28, 2021, 03:48:15 PM
Is lists that card as VR ready, but apparently it isn't?

Might hold off on VR till I can dump a new card in it when things settle down, and just work on stick flying with max graphics for now.

The reason for the upgrade was pretty much the fact I had a ten year  old Dell with a shifty harddrive and everything was simply outdated.  38maw helped me out with a card a few years back, and I put a power supply and ram in it, but it was just time to take a step up.
  basically I'm assuming I'll be able to run any title with this card, with plenty of eye candy.  Ah3 I would assume maxed out and smoothly, minus the VR.  Maybe I'll go VR and a beefier card when the prices get back to normal.  Still excited for this, should be here before the weekened!
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: The Fugitive on June 28, 2021, 03:52:53 PM
  basically I'm assuming I'll be able to run any title with this card, with plenty of eye candy.  Ah3 I would assume maxed out and smoothly, minus the VR.  Maybe I'll go VR and a beefier card when the prices get back to normal.  Still excited for this, should be here before the weekened!

I run a 1060 and have no trouble with my oculus Rift. Just a quick look and I found that the 1660 is 12% faster than the 1060 so I dont see why it shouldn't run VR.
Title: Re: Time to upgrade.
Post by: Bizman on June 29, 2021, 01:31:05 AM
Is lists that card as VR ready, but apparently it isn't?
Given that both the resolutions and refresh rates of VR are increasing and that the starting point already is higher than that of a standard 1920x1080 60 Hz monitor, I'd take the "VR ready" statement with a grain of salt.

That said, the GTX1660 Super is a very fast card, capable to run a 2560x1440 144 Hz monitor at full speed with ease. If I'm right it may be the fastest Nvidia card currently available without ray tracing.