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Help and Support Forums => All things VR => Topic started by: Puma44 on August 31, 2022, 10:20:27 PM
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As I’m going through the setup via WMR, with the headset powered, the mouse pointer is pretty much frozen making it difficult to progress through the setup menu. When the headset is powered off, the mouse pointer returns to normal. I’m sure there’s a simple fix to this but, I can’t figure it out, so far.
A second problem is the left controller isn’t paired (may have inadvertently unpaired it myself) and it’s not pairing so far. The mouse issue above is contributing to that frustration.
I’m a previous oculus rift user and already impressed with the better visual acuity. But, the setup on this rig is a bit challenging so far. I’ll be interested in any newb lessons learned you old head G2 players might offer up.
Thanks in advance! :salute
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You can "Use Desktop" or whatever it's called by pressing Ctrl+y at any time. This will usually free up the mouse. Failure means you've left something waiting for input or dismissal in VR. For instance, using the Windows menu button, which brings up the MS interface and leaving the flashlight see through porthole (grainy RW pass through view) running, will prevent the mouse from working on the normal desktop. Actually, the banner at the top of your screen will refuse to disengage. Whatever it is that was left running will need to be shut down.
The rest of the time, you'll need the G2 controllers unless in AH where you can use your regular HOTAS etc. etc. etc.
For the G2 controller: Make sure the batteries are fresh. The G2 controllers go through them fast. I invested in rechargeable li AAs.
Your controllers should automatically re-pare whenever you turn them on while the G2 can see them. Hold them out in front of you while you turn them on. Recycle the procedure if necessary. Also, if your controller is off to the side, it may be working but you'll never see it because no mater where you look, it moves out of your fov.
It must look silly to hold the controllers out in front at arms length to turn them on but I live alone. ;)
For launching a game, there are 3 or 4 ways. From the Steam "Home page" list, the "Steam Home" environment, or one of the WMR Home environments but the one I use most, even from the "Steam Home" is the Window's menu button on the controllers.
Press the controllers menu button and up pops the WMR interface (such as it is). Off to the the right side of this dialog window is the menu icon launching your whole games and apps list.
While the Windows dialog is up, check out your the Settings and Desktop icons. I have no use for the rest but you'll want to explore when you have time.
Hope this helps.
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Not sure where you are in the process of setup, but for starting AH I start steam then start the headset then hit the steam VR button in the top right of the steam pane once the steam VR starts I start AH and say yes. All of that was done with the headset off of my head, now put headset on and the mouse pointer will move with your head movements clicking with the regular mouse. I don’t use the hand controllers at all.
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Actually to toggle focus from headset to windows it's win+y. That got me when I was setting up too. Nothing works! WT...
It's actually displayed on a banner on your monitor. Which you dont see in the headset!
As for the controllers I'd read to NOT get 1.2v rechargeables as they may not work right, make sure you get 1.5v or use alkaline batts. FWIW I bought two sets of 4 as they said the really burn thru batteries. I haven't made one change yet since I've had the headset in July so there's that. I'm hardly using them actually as I'm not playing Beat Saber or anything like that. Only use them to interact with WMR.
I had a hard time pairing mine too. I had to do a manual pairing to get them working. IIRC the left one gave me the most trouble.
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Oh and for AH you need to install Steam for WMR.. Its different. Once you have that installed, start AH. At the prompt select, think it says openvr headset, it'll start Steam for WMR automatically and you're off.
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Thanks for the ideas gents.
Easy - going through the initial setup upon reaching the controllers, the right side showed connected with a green check mark. The left side showed unconnected with a caution and “!” next to it. There was a reconnect/refresh button but, since the mouse was frozen, I couldn’t select it. Same issue with trying to select “NEXT” in the set up button. The arrow buttons on the keyboard produced no movement. Pressing the ENTER button the keyboard only activated the highlighted BACK button in the setup menu. (Frustration level ratchets up at this point). I could only get control of the mouse by disconnecting headset power but, then the menu page disappeared. I’ll try your suggestions in a bit. If unsuccessful, I’m going to uninstall the G2 software and start over. More than likely, I’ve committed an “I don’t know what I don’t know error” along the way. By the way both controllers turn on and I’ve held both out in front of me. Only the right side displays the laser line to point with.
SNO - :salute I’ve got STEAM and STEAM VR plus AH III & War in the Pacific downloaded. I was able to tap the Steam VR button and get AH to load but, it didn’t go to full screen in VR. Is was displayed in a floating desktop window. (Another ratcheting of the frustration level). So, being later in the evening, it was time to step away from the new toy.
After coffee fully engages and breakfast is ingested, I’ll try your suggestions and report back. Since I’ve been using the Oculus Rift for about five years, I suspect there may be some unintentional expectation bias involved. I remember the initial Rift setup being a relatively simple plug and play event in comparison.
Thanks again gents!
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Oh and for AH you need to install Steam for WMR.. Its different. Once you have that installed, start AH. At the prompt select, think it says openvr headset, it'll start Steam for WMR automatically and you're off.
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Just saw your post, Drano. Thanks! I’ll add your input to my list.
Good point about Steam for WMR. I’ll check that also.
Another general question. Is there a way to access Oculus Games that I’ve collected over time, via the Steam VR software?
Also, when downloaded AH III via Steam, it downloads the DX 11 version correct?
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The vive pro start up is much easier than the quest I used for a short time
Just have to click dx11 to get it going with the vive and check yes for vr
Best of luck working out the bugs Puma
Eagler
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The vive pro start up is much easier than the quest I used for a short time
Just have to click dx11 to get it going with the vive and check yes for vr
Best of luck working out the bugs Puma
Eagler
Thanks Eagler! Similar to the Rift, click DX11, put the headset on, and go (without using the hand controllers). From what the other gents have said, it sounds relatively simple. Just have to figure out the new flow.
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Thanks Drano. Yep, I flubbed the Ctrl+Win thing.
As for playing Oculus games in the G2, it's hit and miss with Revive. Lucky Tails among others works. Robo Recall did but no longer. At least on my mch. Google to find the YouTube coverage and the GitHub download.
I went looking for the G2 controller setup app and can't for the life of me find it. I guess I've customized too much. As I remember, and guys, help us out here, the setup for the controllers came as the initial part of the boundary program.
Yes, you need Steam VR installed. And WMR. Microsoft is said to be abandoning further G2 support in favor of letting Steam take over while MS concentrates on it's family of XR projects.
Opps, just realized you have the setup program running. I think you'll need either the mouse or the working controller to click the next button but try the tab key. Otherwise the Win+y option might work here.
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Well, there’s another two hours of time I’ll never get back. I’m starting to understand why there are so many of these G2s for resale in the original retail packaging in “like new” condition.
Now, the right controller has unpaired itself somehow.
I tried the win + y several times. It only makes the mouse pointer appear (sometimes) and when it does appear, it’s frozen on the screen. Several “win + y” attempts do nothing. So, I put the two paper weights aside for now and launch AH from stream. The VR box is selected, AH is selected, and starts playing. I put the headset on, have music through the speakers and pitch black in front of me. Double checked the G2 attachment in the graphics card, tried again, same result. When I shut down steam and put the headset back on, it’s back to the Home VR environment, which so far hasn’t offered any moves forward. Just this view:
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fZ0FndR/6-B422-E65-6-F32-4-DD4-9770-A6-A410-F0-FD7-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94XCL1NC)
Researching the controller pairing issue directs to the windows setup but, without them paired, there’s no way to move through the setup.
Trying to start via steam, I’ve tried all three of the options here, and get the same black result:
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7gfPzV8/2529344-A-2009-43-B0-B281-83-D133609-F81.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t73vgy4v)
So, I’m very stumped, confused, and frustrated. Headset on. No controllers to navigate. Headset off, win + y pressed, and a frozen non functional mouse pointer with no way to navigate. But, being eternally stubborn, there’s no quitting. Just need the real and workable directions.
Easy, the WMR does include the controller setup/pairing but, I can’t seem to get there from here. Can the WMR be uninstalled and then reinstalled to start from a clean slate? That seems to be the only option remaining.
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Are you using plain old Steam? Or are you using Steam for WMR as I suggested? As I said--it's different. Different in that it's FOR WMR headsets like the G2. It's not a Steam headset so regular Steam won't work. When I want to play AH this is what I do:
Start WMR and make sure the headset is running. I have mine set to start WMR as soon as the headset starts. I keep the power off until I'm gonna play. Hit the power button, headset starts, I hear a couple of kadings--windows sees it. WMR starts. Ready to go. I click AH DX11, it asks if I want to use my openvr headset, I click yes. AT this point Steam for WMR starts automatically and minimizes itself. AH starts normally and I see it in the headset. Only thing odd for me is it asks me to center every time I start by hitting the space bar but I can live with that. That's pretty much it.
I can't really help you with the conttollers. I had a problem initially getting them to take and yeah it was the left one that gave me a problem too but it eventually came up. The problem people are having with the G2, at least the first gen units was with the cable. It would just die out of nowhere and was more or less incompatible with AMD systems. They improved it with a 2nd gen, the V2 which is what's sold new now. It has a different two-piece face plate that allows more space if you're wearing glasses. They fixed the AMD problem. It has a slightly different cable that has a power switch on it. What sucks about that is that I've been trying to buy a spare since I bought mine in July and it's been out of stock for months. These dang propietary cables! Likely THAT'S why they're out there. Nothing actually wrong with the headset itself other than you can't get the cable to run it with. I'd bought a spare for my RiftS just in case and they stopped making it in short order. I haven't needed it yet but might be abusing that one more in it's second life.
Try to remember these headsets are different flavors. Valve/Steam is one, Oculus is another, WMR another, the Pimax and Aeros another. They all have their own softwares to run them. The G2 is a WMR headset so you HAVE to use the right software to get it to run certain games. AH will run with Steam but since this is a WMR headset--and not a STEAM headset--you HAVE to use Steam for WMR. Get it here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/719950/Windows_Mixed_Reality_for_SteamVR/ (https://store.steampowered.com/app/719950/Windows_Mixed_Reality_for_SteamVR/). That way your WMR headset can run your Steam games---like AH. That's just how it works. You can't get the G2 to run on Oculus either. It's a different animal.
Now when I want to play IL-2 or MSFS I'm running Opencomposite which is a different animal again and that allows you to bypass Steam running Steam games and avoid the overhead. I just have to have the headset running and start the game. It allows a few other tweaks that are really cool. Unfortunately it isn't compatible with every game out there. For the life of me I can't get it to work with AH. I get as far as the loading screen on the monitor but nothing in the headset. So running Steam for WMR for AH.
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Drano - Thanks for the additional info. Until following the link you provided, I thought the correct VR version was loaded. I uninstalled that and installed the correct “Steam for WMR” version from your link. I also uninstalled WMR and installed a fresh copy, in an effort to reset up the G2 controllers. So far all efforts following you guys’ suggestions and what I’ve found online are not producing results. Hopefully, the fresh install will allow for repairing the controllers. I too, don’t want to depend on them for AH play.
When putting the headset on, this VR message displays with the headset powered.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLgJf2YC/A3-E81-CC9-0-A5-E-4-D5-C-8360-28-C8-F8-E19-A40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bhkzxcL) (https://postimages.org/)
After installing Steam for WMR, I tried your sequence of getting into AH. Still having the issue of when putting the headset on, it displaying the “home”, which I can’t manipulate without controllers and continue with a frozen mouse pointer using “win + y”. There must be a simple step I’m not realizing.
When you select DX II, are you selecting it from the Steam library, or your desktop?
Thanks again for your insight from “been there, done that”. I’ll let you know how the fresh set up goes. :salute
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I have an icon for the dx11 version of ah on the desktop
Clicking that starts ah asking if I want to start my vr
I say yes and steam opens as ah opens
Putting the headset on has a delay of a couple of seconds and then the login to ah pops up
I remember that the wmr was funky and another reason the g2 was returned...one ear speaker popped in and out and though the sweet spot was clearer it was much smaller than the sweet spot in the modified vive pro I was using..and still am
Good luck with your setup Pumpa
Eagler
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I have an icon for the dx11 version of ah on the desktop
Clicking that starts ah asking if I want to start my vr
I say yes and steam opens as ah opens
Putting the headset on has a delay of a couple of seconds and then the login to ah pops up
I remember that the wmr was funky and another reason the g2 was returned...one ear speaker popped in and out and though the sweet spot was clearer it was much smaller than the sweet spot in the modified vive pro I was using..and still am
Good luck with your setup Pumpa
Eagler
Thanks Eagler! After getting the correct VR Steam version loaded, I also selected the desktop DX II desktop icon, it asked the same question (as the Oculus does), selected yes, and put the headset on to have it display the “home” once again, while hearing the AH initial sign on stuff through the ear pieces. Very unnecessarily frustrating.
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Yeah must be missing something. Don't run Steam manually for AH. In fact, make sure regular steam is closed out entirely---Steamvr and steam before starting AH. The versions will interfere with each other. That could do it. You shouldn't be seeing home at all.
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Thanks Eagler! After getting the correct VR Steam version loaded, I also selected the desktop DX II desktop icon, it asked the same question (as the Oculus does), selected yes, and put the headset on to have it display the “home” once again, while hearing the AH initial sign on stuff through the ear pieces. Very unnecessarily frustrating.
About a dozen guys in my DCS group use the Reverb G2 and they all swear by the OpenXR app for it.
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Yeah but it doesn't work for AH.
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Yeah must be missing something. Don't run Steam manually for AH. In fact, make sure regular steam is closed out entirely---Steamvr and steam before starting AH. The versions will interfere with each other. That could do it. You shouldn't be seeing home at all.
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Yeah, that constant HOME view has really got me trumped.
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If you have regular Steam set to run with windows turn that off so it doesn't mess you up. You're not messing with Steam at all to run AH. I don't know why you're going to the cliff house but I suspect you have Steam running or are trying to run AH thru Steam.
Or...
Is your AH install the Steam version? That would do it too. Mine is the straight HTC version. I don't know how the straight Steam version reacts when started. But something is taking you right to Steam.
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Thanks Drano! I’ll check that also. SNO helped me get the mouse to active by pressing win + y after donning the headset. I’ll clean up the steam vr library and see where that takes me. I agree that something else is in the mix that shouldn’t be.
My AH DX II is the downloaded to the desktop version.
:salute
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Yeah but it doesn't work for AH.
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Thats a bunch of crap, it should work for any VR game.
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What happens if once you are in the steam cliff house, if you close AH and reopen it?
You should get the do you want to use vr prompt again
Then click it with steam already running...does that get you to the ah login?
Make sure AH is highlighted in focus on the desktop before you put the headset on, click it on the tool bar.
Eagler
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Thats a bunch of crap, it should work for any VR game.
No so. I keep up on the discord. There's a list of compatible games. They test games all the time. Generally older games can't run on it and I guess AH is... well... too old. I've never been able to get AH to run on opencomposite and not just recently. Would be super cool if it could. Actually spoke with HT about it. I doubt he's gonna do anything in that direction.
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He shouldn't have Steam or SteamVR running at all prior to starting AH. Should have WMR running, yes. I start AH on the desktop, click yes at the prompt and then put the headset on. Game starts in VR. Steamvr for WMR will start itself and run minimized. I don't even touch it. Don't recall doing anything to that actually. Could be wrong but I'm away from the PC.
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I just tried Drano’s sequence. Before doing that, unplugged the G2 usb from the pc and reconnected. WMR ON, start DXII on the desktop, answer YES, power the headset and put it on. AH popped up full view in the headset with the white reference dot moving with my head movement. Centered it over online arenas and clicked the mouse. Nothing happened from there.
Repeated the process from another cold start and got this cliff house view four times in a row. My controllers have unpaired and won’t re-pair, making it impossible to navigate within the cliff house. The win + y works sporadically but, not enough to make any progress.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1D1Zv92/6-BC1-E05-B-AF3-A-467-A-8-CC1-B82954-F3-D8-D6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mv5wMjcP)
Some progress but, the cliff house thing is frustrating. Can’t seem to avoid stepping in there.
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What happens if once you are in the steam cliff house, if you close AH and reopen it?
You should get the do you want to use vr prompt again
Then click it with steam already running...does that get you to the ah login?
Make sure AH is highlighted in focus on the desktop before you put the headset on, click it on the tool bar.
Eagler
Anytime the headset is powered, the mouse freezes. Talking with SNO yesterday, his mouse operates fine in and out of vr with the headset. I had no mouse issues like this in or out of vr with the oculus rift.
To your other questions, I can’t get there from here because of the frozen mouse issue.
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The win+y command toggles focus between the G2 controllers and the desktop. Sounds like you were so close. I think all you needed to do when AH started and "froze" was hit win+y and you'd have been in. It got me the first time too. I couldn't get anything to register with my hotas either until I did that.
Why are you unplugging the usb? There's a power button on the cable box. Or should be unless you bought this thing used. The V1 cable does not have the power button on it.
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The win+y command toggles focus between the G2 controllers and the desktop. Sounds like you were so close. I think all you needed to do when AH started and "froze" was hit win+y and you'd have been in. It got me the first time too. I couldn't get anything to register with my hotas either until I did that.
Why are you unplugging the usb? There's a power button on the cable box. Or should be unless you bought this thing used. The V1 cable does not have the power button on it.
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In an attempt to get into the setup menu, I unplugged the usb hoping the system wouldn’t recognize the G2 and allow access. So far, I’ve been unable to access the setup menu again. Having a controller available would simplify completing some of the vr setup, since the mouse continues to do its unexplainable freeze act.
I have version 2 with a power button.
Thanks for your continued input.
This HP “stump the dummy” act trying to get this working is :bhead. I have to say the oculus rift was truly a simple plug and play, in comparison. Amazing in these days of advance technology that this G2 is so problematic, especially as long as HP has been around.
Next!………….
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Hey Puma, sorry you're having troubles. The G2 is a great headset once it's up and running. I don't know if you've already gone through all this but the below is how I got mine working.
First for getting your controllers paired there should be a pairing button under the battery case. Hold that until the lights on the controller start flashing and it should pair to the headset. I think you need to be in the hp reverb vr headset setup (it is a different setup than the wmr one). There should be on screen instructions on how to pair.
Second your issue with ah not showing up sounds like a break between wmr and steamvr. Make sure you have steamvr and windows mixed reality for steamvr installed. You need both. Then run steamvr. There should be a little vr icon next to the close window x in the top right of steam. Click on that and it should start wmr if it's not already running. Then the steamvr box will open and should read ready. If it doesn't read ready there are still issues. Let us know what it says in that case. Open ah dx11 and click yes on the use headset prompt. Hopefully you're good to go from there.
I'm out of town right now but get back Monday night. I'll load up some screenshots when I get back home.
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Safe to say..FU Facebook/Meta/Zuckerturd and oculus tied to such BS? Rift was SO MUCH easier, User Friendly!? Eh, before the Dark Times? :old:
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Safe to say..FU Facebook/Meta/Zuckerturd and oculus tied to such BS? Rift was SO MUCH easier, User Friendly!? Eh, before the Dark Times? :old:
I don't have any problems.
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The time when you said you had the dot but when you hovered over the ah menu and clicked but nothing happened..as mentioned that is a focus issue..
When that happens in the vive pro I remove the headset and manually click the running ah icon in the tool bar to put the focus back on ah..
Happens sometimes to me when I start a music cd in the disc drive and the focus is on media player for the tunes and needs to be focused back on the game
Eagler
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Yeah but if he got that far it was because he just needed to peek under the headset and hit win+y. It is a focus issue and that's the cure. After that he prolly won't have to do it again. So close.
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And Puma, given the track record of fragility these cables have I can't advise strongly enough against the plugging and unplugging. Just use the power switch. Getting a replacement might be a problem. I've been trying to get a spare from them. No dice on that so far.
As to getting back to the setup you should see it in your start menu list. Look under HP I think?
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I need to try win+y when I lose that focus in the game
Thanks!
Eagler
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Yeah but if he got that far it was because he just needed to peek under the headset and hit win+y. It is a focus issue and that's the cure. After that he prolly won't have to do it again. So close.
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Drano, maybe a few screen shots of what you see as you login might help so these guys can kind see a step by step run through.
Safe to say..FU Facebook/Meta/Zuckerturd and oculus tied to such BS? Rift was SO MUCH easier, User Friendly!? Eh, before the Dark Times? :old:
I have to say since they switched to "Meta" my Quest 2 loads up much faster than it use to or the Rift before. Also you do not have to have a FB account to use it any more, a Meta one yes :) but you can link it to the FB account if you want. It seems they finally have a management team together that has a clear focus of where/how/what they want to do and they are moving along well.
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Sorry I forgot to mention this right off.
The G2 USB draws a lot of power. Try plugging it into different ports.
On my ASUS Hero XIII MB, the ports would work for awhile and then die, not to power the G2 again. In the end I ended up installing a PCIe add-in card that gets it's power direct from the power supply. I had the same problem on the Riff running on my Sandy Bridge so I already had the card.
My son on the other hand never had any problem with his G2.
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Gentlemen, thank you very much for your continued support and recommendations. I’ll try and fiddle with the G2 again this afternoon and hopefully break the code. Once it’s figured out, wonder if HiTech would consider making a sticky titled “How to Set Up and Use the G2 in AH”? It appears I’m not the Lone Ranger. A clear “How To” would be helpful and a great deal less frustrating. :salute
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Sorry I forgot to mention this right off.
The G2 USB draws a lot of power. Try plugging it into different ports.
On my ASUS Hero XIII MB, the ports would work for awhile and then die, not to power the G2 again. In the end I ended up installing a PCIe add-in card that gets it's power direct from the power supply. I had the same problem on the Riff running on my Sandy Bridge so I already had the card.
My son on the other hand never had any problem with his G2.
Good point Easy! I upgraded my power supply from 600W to 850W, and graphics card from 1070 to 3080. Of course, to my wife, I blamed the card upgrade on SNO, since he told me to just do it. :rofl
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I'm running a 1,000W Seasonic Titan but full up drive slots and RAM and a 3090. It wasn't enough to go through the MB.
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Great progress made this weekend. Yesterday some FaceTime with SNO and today with Easyscor, the controllers are paired, able to get into AH, and setup of the VR stick settings per Easy’s expert tutelage. Very much appreciate your time and patience gentlemen.
Now, the test will be if I can remember everything tomorrow after sleeping overnight. :rofl
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:cheers: :cheers: :aok
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Hey Puma, sorry you're having troubles. The G2 is a great headset once it's up and running. I don't know if you've already gone through all this but the below is how I got mine working.
First for getting your controllers paired there should be a pairing button under the battery case. Hold that until the lights on the controller start flashing and it should pair to the headset. I think you need to be in the hp reverb vr headset setup (it is a different setup than the wmr one). There should be on screen instructions on how to pair.
Second your issue with ah not showing up sounds like a break between wmr and steamvr. Make sure you have steamvr and windows mixed reality for steamvr installed. You need both. Then run steamvr. There should be a little vr icon next to the close window x in the top right of steam. Click on that and it should start wmr if it's not already running. Then the steamvr box will open and should read ready. If it doesn't read ready there are still issues. Let us know what it says in that case. Open ah dx11 and click yes on the use headset prompt. Hopefully you're good to go from there.
I'm out of town right now but get back Monday night. I'll load up some screenshots when I get back home.
Thanks for your suggestions. Between time with SNO and Easy this weekend, all of your ideas are complete. :salute
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Excellent! Glad you got it straightened out. I was away from the PC til now. What was it that got you past the problem?
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So how do you like it?
Eagler
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He's having issues with frame rates. I think it's an issue with his USB cabling setup. Trying to resolve as I type this.
The fix?
When the steam window or is it wmr, comes up there is a 3 dot "menu" in the lower left corner of the window. If your G2 USB is live i.e. getting enough power, then you get the option to Set up Controllers. If not enough power, that option doesn't even show on his FE.
To prove the equipment was working, I had him plug the G2 into a powered hub and surprisingly it worked. Now I think he's switching his HOTAS and throttle to the hub and plugging the G2 direct to the PC. It may not work for him now without a powered PCIe USB daughter card but hopefully that won't be necessary. He tried to pull a lot of power through his MB.
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But the G2 has its own power supply? It plugs into the cable box.
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But the G2 has its own power supply? It plugs into the cable box.
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You'd think so wouldn't you. I did too.
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So how do you like it?
Eagler
The headset fit is perfect and feels very solid. Absolutely no outside light leaking through. When sitting still in game, the visual acuity is fantastic. Working with SNO and Easy offline with the technical geek stuff, which I am not. Getting the AH, WMR, and Steam VR to all cooperate is a bit challenging.
That being said, the setup and software integration is close to nothing and very frustrating for a newb. Disappointing for a company that has been around for so long. But, stubborn determination will prevail.
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I don't have any problems.
Me either...Facebook and its ties to Oculus , was a Turn Off for a lot of folk. Lost in translation, I guess :uhoh
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The headset fit is perfect and feels very solid. Absolutely no outside light leaking through. When sitting still in game, the visual acuity is fantastic. Working with SNO and Easy offline with the technical geek stuff, which I am not. Getting the AH, WMR, and Steam VR to all cooperate is a bit challenging.
That being said, the setup and software integration is close to nothing and very frustrating for a newb. Disappointing for a company that has been around for so long. But, stubborn determination will prevail.
One of you guys should write up a little step by step while its fresh in your mind so any one else coming along with issues will have a solid write up on setting one up.
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Me either...Facebook and its ties to Oculus , was a Turn Off for a lot of folk. Lost in translation, I guess :uhoh
That’s exactly why my decision to buy the G2 was accelerated by a few months. A couple of weeks ago, oculus demanded a sign in to use the headset. Anddddd, you’re fired ocuulous.
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One of you guys should write up a little step by step while its fresh in your mind so any one else coming along with issues will have a solid write up on setting one up.
My thought exactly Fugi! :aok Once I get a consistent start up flow going, it’ll get it on paper and add the tech info from our computer experts. In my opinion, it’s sticky worthy.
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My thought exactly Fugi! :aok Once I get a consistent start up flow going, it’ll get it on paper and add the tech info from our computer experts. In my opinion, it’s sticky worthy.
:aok :salute
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That’s exactly why my decision to buy the G2 was accelerated by a few months. A couple of weeks ago, oculus demanded a sign in to use the headset. Anddddd, you’re fired ocuulous.
You've always needed an oculus sign in to use their headsets. You've never needed a facebook account. And Oculus have just started transitioning to meta accounts.
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You've always needed an oculus sign in to use their headsets. You've never needed a facebook account. And Oculus have just started transitioning to meta accounts.
I didn’t until last week when they wanted the meta sign in, which didn’t go well. Regardless, Mark and company are fired.
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Starting to find the flow to make the G2 sing. Like some have mentioned, turn on the headset power, select dx11, answer YES, put the headset on, and it starts loading. I’m finding the “AH11 waiting” thing sometimes comes up but, a peek under the headset and selecting AH on the task gets to the sign in menu.
Questions for you experienced G2 dudes:
When :salute I transmit on channel or range, it’s very garbled. What’s causing that? How can that be remedied?
Frame rates are 45 ish. Normal, or is there something else I need to tweak?
How is the headset volume adjusted? I need a tad more volume.
Finally, some mini geek advice. Be sure to plug in the flight control USBs before getting in game. Better results with them plugged in. Follow me for more AH VR advice.
Thanks again for all the advice and suggestions, gents! Very much appreciated.
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Me either...Facebook and its ties to Oculus , was a Turn Off for a lot of folk. Lost in translation, I guess :uhoh
Facebook is separate now though. It is Meta
And if you're worried about Meta getting into your info then you need a wakeup call. Data Mining is everywhere in everything.
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Facebook is separate now though. It is Meta
And if you're worried about Meta getting into your info then you need a wakeup call. Data Mining is everywhere in everything.
Sign in to put a VR headset on and use it? Nope.
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Sign in to put a VR headset on and use it? Nope.
I have to confess that I don't understand the Facebook thing. While I have a Facebook account, I believe my last post there was some years ago. Certainly I never told the Oculus people about it. And yet, my Rift S continues to function as it always has. Is it just that I'm not getting updates?
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You've always needed an oculus sign in to use their headsets. You've never needed a facebook account. And Oculus have just started transitioning to meta accounts.
True, for the Oculus software. But, having to sign into fb/meta is a non player, and completely unnecessary.
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True, for the Oculus software. But, having to sign into fb/meta is a non player, and completely unnecessary.
There is and will not be a requirement to sign into FB (as I understand it). Oculus logins need to migrate to Meta because Oculus doesn't exist anymore (it's been rebranded to Meta). A meta login is not a facebook login.
tbh I hate fb as much as anyone. But meta have been throwing a toejamload of money at vr research and been selling hardware like the Q2 at very reasonable prices. And the new Quest Pro (due to be formally announced in Oct) looks pretty insane. I think the meta hate is a bit unjustified tbh.
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Puma, the quick way, on your taskbar you'll see a speaker icon.
Left click it to see your current speaker/mic setting.
If your G2 is plugged in ...
See the little ^ icon and click it to scroll to the Speakers (3- Realtek USB 2.0 Audio) and make sure the volume slider is set to maximum. You can then use AH etc. volume controls to adjust volume.
The long ways is to go into Windows setting, sound, and essentially do the same thing.
Oh, and the correct Realtek device won't show unless the G2 is operating.
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Thanks Easy! I’ll take a look at it later this afternoon. :aok
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Sign in to put a VR headset on and use it? Nope.
Not experience the headaches you are right now by using Quest 2
I'll take that all day long. Way too old for stressing over PC issues.
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Not experience the headaches you are right now by using Quest 2
I'll take that all day long. Way too old for stressing over PC issues.
Sign in to use a simple tool? A matter of choice.
Headaches and stress are all relative. There are far worse issues to give up on. This one is a challenge, nothing more. Freedom of choice is what counts. Nothing to do with hate. So, Mark and company are no longer employed by me. My choice, not his.
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As I’m getting more up to speed and comfortable with the G2, there are a couple of lingering issues (not stressors).
In the previous VR headset and non VR game play, there’s a button programmed to re-center the view. Now in VR, that button doesn’t re-center but, still does in non VR. Any idea why and how to resolve it?
When transmitting on channel or range, my voice sounds muffled in VR. It did not in the previous headset. In non VR play, my voice playback is clear as it alway was. I’ve checked the AH sound settings and confirmed the correct items are selected. Reception on channel and range is as it always has been. Surely, it’s a simple fix but, what is it?
Thanks! :salute
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Are you using TIR center? If so unmap and remap maybe
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Are you using TIR center? If so unmap and remap maybe
Yes. I’ll give it a try. Thanks!
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For the audio, make sure the mic selected is your vr mic. I've had it switch on me and go to my regular headset mic in game.
You might also need to turn up the mic gain in the game settings. I had to do that, turn off auto and turn it almost all the way up.
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For the audio, make sure the mic selected is your vr mic. I've had it switch on me and go to my regular headset mic in game.
You might also need to turn up the mic gain in the game settings. I had to do that, turn off auto and turn it almost all the way up.
Thanks Rocco! I’ll check that also. 👍
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This thread is why I havent gone VR. If it was really plug and play, I would have been there all ready
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Puma, FYI logging on for FSO the other night I had the same thing happen to me that was happening to you. I had WMR up and running, started AH but it only started on the monitor, not the headset. And it was starting up regular steam! Turned out there was a steam update. I updated everything, closed back out of steam, started AH again and it started in the headset with steam for WMR in the background like it should. So look out for that if it happens again. Think that was the first time that's happened to me since I've had the G2.
Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk
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This thread is why I havent gone VR. If it was really plug and play, I would have been there all ready
I've had both WMR based and the Oculus Quest. Quest seemed a little more bullet proof and more straightforward software wise.
All the trouble was worth the jaw-dropping VR experience though.
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Puma, FYI logging on for FSO the other night I had the same thing happen to me that was happening to you. I had WMR up and running, started AH but it only started on the monitor, not the headset. And it was starting up regular steam! Turned out there was a steam update. I updated everything, closed back out of steam, started AH again and it started in the headset with steam for WMR in the background like it should. So look out for that if it happens again. Think that was the first time that's happened to me since I've had the G2.
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Thanks Drano! I’ll check that also.
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This thread is why I havent gone VR. If it was really plug and play, I would have been there all ready
The real issue with the G2 is the disappointing lack of “how to” when the box is cracked opened. As you can see, there’s a lot of “been there, done that” expertise from players who are more than willing to help bridge the gap.
As Oboe said, the eye watering reality is simply amazing and can’t be beat outside a real world experience. So, jump in. The water’s fine. If you can’t swim, there’s plenty of excellent help to keep your head above water. Once you dive into VR, you’ll regret not doing it sooner.
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This thread is why I havent gone VR. If it was really plug and play, I would have been there all ready
When I got the Oculus 2 I’ll admit it was a much simpler set up than this. It is also a rather robust piece of hardware.
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This thread is why I havent gone VR. If it was really plug and play, I would have been there all ready
The setup and expense is worth the experience imo
A decent vr pilot will kill a good 2d pilot just due to the advantages vr presents..
Eagler
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Are you using TIR center? If so unmap and remap maybe
As it turns out, when I loaded the VR stick settings, the “Track Center” function didn’t populate alone with all the other sticks settings. So, it was a simple matter of remapping it in the control settings.
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Here’s another issue with the brand spankin’ new G2. When in game, reception is slightly garbled. Transmission is garbled. I’ve tried adjusting the windows audio “recording” setting by dialing it down to 40%. It makes no real difference from when it was at 100%. Any ideas what I’m missing? Yet another G2 mystery for the ages.
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I know a couple gamers that use another set of headphones with the VR unit
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Puma it sounds like the mike is too close to your mouth and its over modulating..probably not that..just a guess
Eagler
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Puma it sounds like the mike is too close to your mouth and its over modulating..probably not that..just a guess
Eagler
How an that be adjusted with the Reverb G2 headset?
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Is there a way to control your mike input in windows?
Is there a pre amp activated on the micinput?
Not sure as I don't talk and don't use it
Best of luck Puma!
Eagler
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Is there a way to control your mike input in windows?
Is there a pre amp activated on the micinput?
Not sure as I don't talk and don't use it
Best of luck Puma!
Eagler
I adjusted the “record” volume in W10 but, it didn’t appear to make much difference, as you probably heard last night in MNM. Hope this is another “I don’t know what I don’t know” issue with the G2. On the other hand, what an improvement in visual acuity and frame rate. Very pleased with that.
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I'd read somewhere of people having this issue with the G2 mic. I never had it. Sound is fine. Use it for VOX, SRS and Voice Attack, no problems. I manage my sound inputs and outputs with Voicemeeter as well. I don't think the voice problem was anything to do with the G2 directly but was something to to with recordiing devices or something. I did get a driver update recently. Had me worried as it was a Realtek driver update. My mobo also has onboard sound that's Realtek. I was afraid it would create a conflict that didn't exist! No worries. I updated the Realtek USB driver (the G2) and got the sound driver update for my Mobo a few days later and it worked out fine.
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My G2 mic sounds like crap, but I prefer using a headset with boom mic anyway…
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After seeing 6 pages of " can you help get this working " i am so glad now I bought the Quest 2. Easy as hell to set up and easy as hell to use. And if I want to play games on the headset, I can do so without being tethered to a PC.
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After seeing 6 pages of " can you help get this working " i am so glad now I bought the Quest 2. Easy as hell to set up and easy as hell to use. And if I want to play games on the headset, I can do so without being tethered to a PC.
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Part of the reason for six pages is posts that have nothing to do with the question at hand. A little productive help goes a long way. Many thanks to those who have contributed to solving the mysteries of the G2 :salute
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I was giving input from over fifteen squad mates that run the G2.
Just came back to the thread and noticed it was six pages deep.
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I was giving input from over fifteen squad mates that run the G2.
Just came back to the thread and noticed it was six pages deep.
Have any of them given input on this thread about the G2?