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Title: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 05:14:05 AM
Was asked to write an email describing the problem and potential solutions. Please +1 or -1 depending on where you stand. If you have any ideas tto the solution of the problem or would like to describe issues you have experienced while in the MA over the past 6 months, please provide them here. I will email each one into HTC for review.  :salute :cheers: :aok

Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 05:15:35 AM
To whom this may concern,

Over the past 2 months, I have observed over 3 dozen situations where ENY has affected countries without significant numbers to support the restrictions; In my humble opinion, they should not be penalized with ENY. This has been going on for years with the declining player base.

What I am observing on a continual basis is as follows.

1. Large forces of up to 35 players swarming a base with only 3-10 defenders. This happens on a regular basis during primetime. When the base is not captured the horde continues. After these players have their fill they log for the night creating a huge problem in regards to eny. Players that stay and fight through it, then continue to play once the horde logs, are then restricted to +20 ENY for several hours.

2. Large forces on the bishop side roll throughout the morning. This is countered at times with shade accounts. Up to 15 players continually roll bases after base. Once they are logged for the day this creates a huge eny problem for other countries for up to 2 hours. Eny of 10.5 to +20 is common almost daily from this scenario.

3. On several occasions I have observed a side winning the map and then not returning for up to an hour or more. While everyone else wants to get a good start on the next map, they are restricted to above +10 to as high as +20 eny for an hour or more.


This is both killing action creating game play and limiting paying customers from enjoying the game. I understand that eny is the lesser of two evils but ENY is only working against those not hording. If I stay around and fight 5-15 v 1 engagements for hours I should not get hit with high eny. I only fly b17's or b24's and I face on multiple occasions each week with restrictions when there should be none.

It is my opinion that ENY needs to be scaled back or eliminated entirely. The hordes roll with little to no eny. It is not OK to ask paying customers who wish to spend their time in this game to log off just so ENY can affect the enemy; or to switch sides after investing the time and energy for hours if not days to win the war for a particular side. The autoside switch does not work anymore the way it was intended and nobody uses it for the intended reason either. It is now used to perk farm.

Over the next week I will provide some solutions from players and myself and hopefully you will find one that works for everyone including the business.

Please go to the forums and read what others have said from posts that MERV has started which is my bbs member name.

Forgive my disruptive behavior at times. I'm passionate about this game. I do act immature at times but I am finally addressing my mental health.

<S> Finetime/HQRUS
Jordan Hartley
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 05:17:54 AM
I believe significant improvements to the quality of the game would be experienced by all players if ENY was scaled back by a minimum of 33% with a cap of 19.99 ENY.

An ENY minimum of 40-60 players would also greatly benefit the game. I understand scenarios with 20 bishops in the morning would negate this scale back immensely but those are the rare occasions and any team with greater than 66% of the player base with 24 players in the main arena could also warrant a 100% ENY penalty.

Just jostling around ideas. ENY should not go away but there is a large group of players that believe ENY is prohibiting fair action creating gameplay. Please consider these first ideas!

<S> Finetime/HQRUS
Jordan Hartley
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Max on January 24, 2023, 07:57:03 AM
Yo Wiz.......................... nothin's gonna change, bro


                                <paste pic of guy beating dead horse here>
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TryHard on January 24, 2023, 08:00:38 AM
This guy  :rofl

Nothing is changing in this game get over it.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Dadtallica on January 24, 2023, 08:26:57 AM
What is the big deal. Do you have to fly a plane out of your comfort zone once and awhile big whoop.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 10:29:07 AM
What is the big deal. Do you have to fly a plane out of your comfort zone once and awhile big whoop.
The difference between eny 19.9 planes and eny +20 planes is significant.

Absolutely for $15 a month I have to fly a set of B-17's or B-24's every sortie!  :bhead
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 10:35:50 AM
Yo Wiz.......................... nothin's gonna change, bro


                                <paste pic of guy beating dead horse here>
Hey Max never say never! Dale sat and sat on the HQ's going down for a long time. Then he acted by making it impossible for gvs or bombers to destroy HQ. When AH3 finally released the m3 howitzer cross map sorties were negated, GV dar was implemented, and HQ got a much needed significant nerf on downtime; while HQ hardness got a slight buff. A cap limit of 90 minutes downtime was also implemented.  All of those changes were the perfect fix to that problem.

Why were HQ's getting dropped the way they were with such frequency? Because of shade cheaters ruining historic/non-historic strategic missions on a regular basis in the MA. Back then you could drop an HQ for up to 3 hrs. You can't see anything when your HQ was down. The only way you could see enemy planes was if you ran a shade account and spied locations that were friendly. Back then they were just dots  :aok

HTC wants to hear suggestions to the solution of the problem. I am just trying to rally support for this change that is for the betterment of the game as a whole for everyone.

I will put up the fight MaX, after all...😜😎🔥

NOBODY beats the WiZ 👊 💪🫡
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 10:56:22 AM
ENY is restricting a shrinking player base. This game can no longer afford to ask its players to side switch or log out in order to balance eny.

ENY NO LONGER WORKS AS INTENDED.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: CptTrips on January 24, 2023, 11:02:54 AM
ENY is restricting a shrinking player base. This game can no longer afford to ask its players to side switch or log out in order to balance eny.

ENY NO LONGER WORKS AS INTENDED.

Neither does three sides at these numbers, but....

(https://www.hollywoodinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Hollywood-Insider-Don-Quixote-Greatest-Story-Ever-Told.jpg)




Embrace the suck. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness)
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Torcher on January 24, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Yo Wiz.......................... nothin's gonna change, bro


                                <paste pic of guy beating dead horse here>

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/b197/TonyRockyhorror/Animated%20GIFs/.highres/deadhorse.jpg_zpsvqnq6er6.gif)
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Bear76 on January 24, 2023, 12:41:39 PM
To whom this may concern,

Over the past 2 months, I have observed over 3 dozen situations where ENY has affected countries without significant numbers to support the restrictions; In my humble opinion, they should not be penalized with ENY. This has been going on for years with the declining player base.

What I am observing on a continual basis is as follows.

1. Large forces of up to 35 players swarming a base with only 3-10 defenders. This happens on a regular basis during primetime. When the base is not captured the horde continues. After these players have their fill they log for the night creating a huge problem in regards to eny. Players that stay and fight through it, then continue to play once the horde logs, are then restricted to +20 ENY for several hours.

2. Large forces on the bishop side roll throughout the morning. This is countered at times with shade accounts. Up to 15 players continually roll bases after base. Once they are logged for the day this creates a huge eny problem for other countries for up to 2 hours. Eny of 10.5 to +20 is common almost daily from this scenario.

3. On several occasions I have observed a side winning the map and then not returning for up to an hour or more. While everyone else wants to get a good start on the next map, they are restricted to above +10 to as high as +20 eny for an hour or more.


This is both killing action creating game play and limiting paying customers from enjoying the game. I understand that eny is the lesser of two evils but ENY is only working against those not hording. If I stay around and fight 5-15 v 1 engagements for hours I should not get hit with high eny. I only fly b17's or b24's and I face on multiple occasions each week with restrictions when there should be none.

It is my opinion that ENY needs to be scaled back or eliminated entirely. The hordes roll with little to no eny. It is not OK to ask paying customers who wish to spend their time in this game to log off just so ENY can affect the enemy; or to switch sides after investing the time and energy for hours if not days to win the war for a particular side. The autoside switch does not work anymore the way it was intended and nobody uses it for the intended reason either. It is now used to perk farm.

Over the next week I will provide some solutions from players and myself and hopefully you will find one that works for everyone including the business.

Please go to the forums and read what others have said from posts that MERV has started which is my bbs member name.

Forgive my disruptive behavior at times. I'm passionate about this game. I do act immature at times but I am finally addressing my mental health.

<S> Finetime/HQRUS
Jordan Hartley

Start your serial poster rehab by breaking your keyboard. Thank you.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TryHard on January 24, 2023, 01:05:09 PM
ENY is restricting a shrinking player base. This game can no longer afford to ask its players to side switch or log out in order to balance eny.

ENY NO LONGER WORKS AS INTENDED.

Or just fly something more challenging that a formation of flying death stars with lazer beam 50 cals all controlled by one man.

May I suggest a fighter? maybe learn some BFM.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: MajWoody on January 24, 2023, 01:19:15 PM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/b197/TonyRockyhorror/Animated%20GIFs/.highres/deadhorse.jpg_zpsvqnq6er6.gif)
  No kidding. This is getting worse than Midway
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 01:29:48 PM
Some of you aren't being nice :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 01:34:39 PM
  No kidding. This is getting worse than Midway
:rofl

I disagree
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 02:05:02 PM
Quote
author=TryHard link=topic=406805.msg5387500#msg5387500 date=1674587109]
Or just fly something more challenging that a formation of flying death stars with lazer beam 50 cals all controlled by one man.

May I suggest a fighter? maybe learn some BFM.
I prefer to spend x2/x3 $15 a month subscriptions and take ENY 20 planes on the same country to fight red, move mud, and win the war.

Take away 1 you take away them all. Of course I can fly HE111's and move mud and win the war. I cannot fight red against 0 ENY restricted planes doing so without help while in +20eny bombers. When is the last time you needed and could count on reliable consistent help from anyone to win the war in AH3? If your in with the right squad you can rely on folks. I just play so much when I do play that I have learned how to do what I do and get r done without help and actually have some success doing it.


By myself at an undefended base I can White flag and deck a town with b24s. I then bail and run m3 troops. My fastest average time to capture an undefeated base is a 23 minute time investment. If the base is defended I stand about of 50% chance of success if I use my other account to run troops. It is far left likely if I do it on 1 account.

I prefer to capture defended bases. Just hit the all your base are belong to us achievement for the 7th time since the achievement system was released. I play to win the war. So what folks are suggesting to to give this up, to fly worse planes for the betterment of the community as a whole, and to shut up about this dead horse..... no I will not change. I just won't get disrespectful and disruptive when I am bullied or gas lit anymore.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Mayhem on January 24, 2023, 02:26:22 PM
nothin's gonna change, bro

mERv, I hate to say this but I think Max is right. It' not going to change until it absolutely has to and even then it may well be to late.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Max on January 24, 2023, 02:39:21 PM
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Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 05:29:28 PM
mERv, I hate to say this but I think Max is right. It' not going to change until it absolutely has to and even then it may well be to late.

5:22pm 01/24/2023 MA

Bishops: 16 CNT 10NF 19.5% 0ENY
Knights: 28 CNT 21NF 34.1% 7.4ENY
Rooks: 38CNF 20NF 46.3% 26.9ENY

Rooks own 25% Bishop bases 14.3% Knight bases.....
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: RotBaron on January 24, 2023, 07:28:00 PM
5:22pm 01/24/2023 MA

Bishops: 16 CNT 10NF 19.5% 0ENY
Knights: 28 CNT 21NF 34.1% 7.4ENY
Rooks: 38CNF 20NF 46.3% 26.9ENY

Rooks own 25% Bishop bases 14.3% Knight bases.....

So it works just as intended  :rofl

 :bhead

Must be the “to piss the other guy off”. But when they walk with their wallets…
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TryHard on January 24, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
Some of you aren't being nice :rolleyes:

And you aren't being nice to us by spam posting the same thread 5 times a week...  give it a rest dude
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 08:12:10 PM
And you aren't being nice to us by spam posting the same thread 5 times a week...  give it a rest dude

Whine charted :neener: :bolt:
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 24, 2023, 08:27:19 PM
8:25pm 01/24/2023 Main Arena

Bishops: 55CNT 47NF 43.7% 10.7 ENY
Knights 34CNT 27NF 27% 0ENY
Rooks 37CNT 26NF 29 4% 0ENY

 :bhead

Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TryHard on January 24, 2023, 10:54:37 PM
Whine charted :neener: :bolt:
:rofl

The pot calling the kettle black

Come to think of it, that's racist.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Meatwad on January 25, 2023, 06:12:06 AM
:rofl

The pot calling the kettle black

Come to think of it, that's racist.

?
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Dadtallica on January 25, 2023, 10:47:06 AM
8:25pm 01/24/2023 Main Arena

Bishops: 55CNT 47NF 43.7% 10.7 ENY
Knights 34CNT 27NF 27% 0ENY
Rooks 37CNT 26NF 29 4% 0ENY

 :bhead

So I think what you’re saying is that it works just not for you. Find a new thing to squeak about.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 25, 2023, 11:15:06 AM
He's just following the pattern, that if you cry enough and put-up multiple threads about the same thing that Hitech will just give in and change it.



NOT!!!
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 25, 2023, 11:30:09 AM
I'd prefer that some late war fighters had reduced ENY values. The yak3 males 0 sense when you compare to the La7. The 109k could be reduced to 10. The 190D should replace the perked 152 cost. The spit16 should replace the spit14 perk cost. The 190D in reality though should be atleast 8 due to its speed, dive, guns, roll rate, and excelleration. It does make an impact in the fighter space and has a lot of cannons for de-ack. The nik and La7 are 8 eny but not the yak3 or 190D?  :headscratch:

With low #s it's hard to enforce ENY without someone getting mad. That's why the best solution is to make the planes go perked rather than preventing anyone from flying them when the #s are under 30. This I think would eliminate kamikaze Jabo and bomb type stuff where you bail and come back. I've been in situations where my side had an ENY cap, but the other side had far more players at the fight and tee'd off on us. We had no way of taking down the town with a friggin TBM off the CV. Unfortunately one bish squad in the morning doesn't want to switch teams to even #s which makes the situation difficult. 3 sides in the morning makes it tough with low #s. It's really a tough situation that hitech really has no choice. Under 30 players where one squad makes up more than 1/3rd is going to cause issues and its really just gaming the game because no other squad is able to play that early and defend. When one side in the morning is causing both other sides to have high ENY due to their low #s. Thats the big issue I think and it seems there really isn't a whole lot you can do to fix that besides have maps that emmerse action for all 3 teams better.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 25, 2023, 11:13:39 PM
Just the first item.... it looks like you were against the horde and they had eny. Then they logged and your side was the hord and you had eny. If so, that is how it works. It all works out in the wash.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: BiPoLaR on January 26, 2023, 01:28:05 AM
I think someone needs to go outside and smell the grass. Lots of post about the same things.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 26, 2023, 07:02:07 AM
Just the first item.... it looks like you were against the horde and they had eny. Then they logged and your side was the hord and you had eny. If so, that is how it works. It all works out in the wash.

I believe what he's saying is that when the horde squad is on, their ENY only goes between 5-10. But when they all log off Mervs ENY goes to 20+. So imagine switching to the knits to help defend against the horde squad, then the map changes, or they all log off, now you are stuck there with a 20 eny. Nothing you can do.


Why the heck in a Seafire 15 eny and a better eny than a 109k or Ki84 or yak3? It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry guys, but these eny values just aren't accurate.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 26, 2023, 07:45:01 AM
Just the first item.... it looks like you were against the horde and they had eny. Then they logged and your side was the hord and you had eny. If so, that is how it works. It all works out in the wash.

Sobifbi pay an extra 30-60 a month I can balance eny when I want ro flybwith squadies
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Dadtallica on January 26, 2023, 07:50:53 AM
Sobifbi pay an extra 30-60 a month I can balance eny when I want ro flybwith squadies

I think you finally nailed it sport! You are concerned about you. My expectations are tepid for tomorrow’s new thread.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 26, 2023, 08:51:21 AM
I am curious.... if you manually switch to even sides, and then the other side has a lot that log, if you select auto switch.... will it move you to the lower number side?

I know that eny works the same for all sides.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 26, 2023, 08:56:17 AM
I am curious.... if you manually switch to even sides, and then the other side has a lot that log, if you select auto switch.... will it move you to the lower number side?

Then what's the point of the 6 hour side switch? If it's "spying" to switch sides, than why is being able to switch to the low # team any different?
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 26, 2023, 09:16:47 AM
Then what's the point of the 6 hour side switch? If it's "spying" to switch sides, than why is being able to switch to the low # team any different?

My question said nothing about spying....
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Chris79 on January 26, 2023, 11:06:51 AM
I believe what he's saying is that when the horde squad is on, their ENY only goes between 5-10. But when they all log off Mervs ENY goes to 20+. So imagine switching to the knits to help defend against the horde squad, then the map changes, or they all log off, now you are stuck there with a 20 eny. Nothing you can do.


Why the heck in a Seafire 15 eny and a better eny than a 109k or Ki84 or yak3? It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry guys, but these eny values just aren't accurate.


That I agree with
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Chris79 on January 26, 2023, 11:15:23 AM
One solution is to perk the difference between the countries ENY and the Aircrafts ENY.
Example the Knits have a ENY of 20, the P51 has a ENY of 5, make the P51 cost 15 perks.
The problem with that is so many players have thousands of perks that it wouldn’t really make a difference.
I’m personally not the biggest fan of ENY, and it hardly ever affects me, unless it’s over 25.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 26, 2023, 12:34:28 PM
One solution is to perk the difference between the countries ENY and the Aircrafts ENY.
Example the Knits have a ENY of 20, the P51 has a ENY of 5, make the P51 cost 15 perks.
The problem with that is so many players have thousands of perks that it wouldn’t really make a difference.
I’m personally not the biggest fan of ENY, and it hardly ever affects me, unless it’s over 25.

Using perks is not a good idea as then it only affects the newer folks who really need the best planes. They would get demolished.

Keep the ideas coming though.... that is what is needed. Much better than the constant complaining... as that gets the point no where. Somewhere, someone, will come up with an idea that will knock the socks off the problem that folks are having.

While the letter is one thing..... the best thing about this thread is the request for any suggestions. Even if you have not completely ironed out how to go about it..... throw it out there for discussion.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 26, 2023, 01:20:09 PM
Using perks is not a good idea as then it only affects the newer folks who really need the best planes. They would get demolished.

Keep the ideas coming though.... that is what is needed. Much better than the constant complaining... as that gets the point no where. Somewhere, someone, will come up with an idea that will knock the socks off the problem that folks are having.

While the letter is one thing..... the best thing about this thread is the request for any suggestions. Even if you have not completely ironed out how to go about it..... throw it out there for discussion.

How do we keep the older vet folks out of the best planes is the real question  :old:

Truth be told, more people in less best planes is better for the newer folks than newer folks getting demolished by vets flying the best planes too. Perked planes show to lead to less overall usage which I think is good for the newer folks. Just my opinion and okay to disagree as we wouldn't see it in practice anyway.

Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Chris79 on January 26, 2023, 02:44:47 PM
How do we keep the older vet folks out of the best planes is the real question  :old:

Truth be told, more people in less best planes is better for the newer folks than newer folks getting demolished by vets flying the best planes too. Perked planes show to lead to less overall usage which I think is good for the newer folks. Just my opinion and okay to disagree as we wouldn't see it in practice anyway.


Reset perks every tour?
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 26, 2023, 04:27:42 PM
I am curious.... if you manually switch to even sides, and then the other side has a lot that log, if you select auto switch.... will it move you to the lower number side?

I know that eny works the same for all sides.
who cares about a 6 to 72 hr time investment winning the war? Just help me out... it's why I play.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: CAV on January 26, 2023, 04:35:25 PM

Quote
Reset perks every tour?

I would be OK with that.

But what I would love to see is "Rollin Plane Sets".... but the arrival of the next plane/tank would be based on Factory down times... the side that takes care of its strategic resources gets the newer planes first. (As things are right now, you may as well call this "Aceshigh 1945")

As far as side balancing.... don't mess with the planes/tanks....  the larger your population, the larger the number of troops you need to get into the base to capture it and shorten the window of time that you have to accomplish it in. And the reverse is true for the team that is outnumbered.

CAVALRY

Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Dadtallica on January 26, 2023, 04:40:02 PM

As far as side balancing.... don't mess with the planes/tanks....  the larger your population, the larger the number of troops you need to get into the base to capture it and shorten the window of time that you have to accomplish it in. And the reverse is true for the team that is outnumbered.

CAVALRY

I like this idea very much it would be easy to scale with an agreed acceptable equation. 10 troops being the minimum.

I also agree with the 190 should be perkier. It’s one of my favorites to fly anyway especially for porking. It’s also my first click anytime the eny starts creeping.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 26, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
I think for $15 a month flying b24's/b17's without restriction is fair
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: The Fugitive on January 26, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
I think for $15 a month flying b24's/b17's without restriction is fair

So do the guys who love the Pony, K4 and so on.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 26, 2023, 10:09:16 PM
So do the guys who love the Pony, K4 and so on.
+1
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: LCADolby on January 27, 2023, 07:03:17 AM
I love the 262 for hunting B17s/B24s.. For my currency per month 262s without restriction is fair
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TWCAxew on January 27, 2023, 07:26:23 AM
I love the 262 for hunting B17s/B24s.. For my currency per month 262s without restriction is fair
+1

I like 163's though
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Eagler on January 27, 2023, 08:49:59 AM
+1

I like 163's though

Never understood why the 262 is at every base but the 163 is not

Eagler
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: popeye on January 27, 2023, 09:11:19 AM
Never understood why the 262 is at every base but the 163 is not


The 163 requires special equipment and trained personnel known as "Verrückte Menschen" to handle the explosive fuel.   :D
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Eagler on January 27, 2023, 09:14:13 AM
True but did every airfield have jet fuel for the 262?

Eagler
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 27, 2023, 09:56:12 AM
I would be OK with that.

But what I would love to see is "Rollin Plane Sets".... but the arrival of the next plane/tank would be based on Factory down times... the side that takes care of its strategic resources gets the newer planes first. (As things are right now, you may as well call this "Aceshigh 1945")

As far as side balancing.... don't mess with the planes/tanks....  the larger your population, the larger the number of troops you need to get into the base to capture it and shorten the window of time that you have to accomplish it in. And the reverse is true for the team that is outnumbered.

CAVALRY

Hmmmm interesting suggestion.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Chris79 on January 27, 2023, 10:55:44 AM
True but did every airfield have jet fuel for the 262?

Eagler

I believe the 262 used the J2 fuels which were easier for them to produce and had required no special handling. I’m sure Devil or Perdweeb would have a better answer.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: popeye on January 27, 2023, 03:10:53 PM

As far as side balancing.... don't mess with the planes/tanks....  the larger your population, the larger the number of troops you need to get into the base to capture it and shorten the window of time that you have to accomplish it in. And the reverse is true for the team that is outnumbered.


The problem with that scheme seems to be that the player numbers constantly change.  So, you wouldn't know how many troops would be required for a capture, and it would be open to gaming the game.  "Get ready to log out, I'm about to run troops!"   :D

As an alternative, the troop transports could be lower ENY.  They are currently all ENY = 40.  It might be interesting to make the M3 ENY = 18, and the SdKfz 251 ENY = 22.  With a large number imbalance, the horde would be reduced to using LVTs for capture and resupply.  Although, there is probably someone who would complain that their "favorite ride" is the M3 and rage quit if it wasn't available.   :devil
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TWCAxew on January 27, 2023, 04:45:48 PM
Never understood why the 262 is at every base but the 163 is not

Eagler

Let's make our own spam thread Eagler! This is an issue that NEEDS to be solved!  :x
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: CAV on January 27, 2023, 05:36:39 PM
Quote
So, you wouldn't know how many troops would be required for a capture, and it would be open to gaming the game.

I think its OK not knowing.... "Fog Of War"

As far as Gaming the Gaming...

We already have players hiding tanks in buildings that HT does not fix....

All-Seeing ground and air radar, If one bad guy on the map sees you, every bad guy on the map can see you, matter how far away they are.... no need for SA.

The game is passing around  "Side Switchers" is like a drunk cheerleader on Prom Night, that can Narc out any plan you going anytime they feel like it...


I personally have come to terms that Aces High is an arcade game and it is never going to be the combat simulation that I hoped it would be when I first started so long ago... I have IL-2 multiplayer for that.

CAV



Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: 100Coogn on January 27, 2023, 06:51:19 PM
It doesn't help that dar can now tell what you're flying (bomber/fighter) and which way you're going.
That's when I called it quits. Dot-Dar was much better.  Actually had to try to make an educated guess of what was going on.

Coogan
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Lazerr on January 27, 2023, 07:19:02 PM
It doesn't help that dar can now tell what you're flying (bomber/fighter) and which way you're going.
That's when I called it quits. Dot-Dar was much better.  Actually had to try to make an educated guess of what was going on.

Coogan
  dot dar x 100
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 27, 2023, 07:49:45 PM
Whenever ENY hits +20 it kills the action. This is happening at times of low numbers.

The higher the number the more relaxed ENY becomes. That is a problem.

Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2023, 07:58:56 PM
It doesn't help that dar can now tell what you're flying (bomber/fighter) and which way you're going.
That's when I called it quits. Dot-Dar was much better.  Actually had to try to make an educated guess of what was going on.

Coogan

Concerning the bomber/fighter icon, it would have been much better if that wasn't depending on plane type, but by having a formation or not.
As it is, you can immediately tell that's an unarmed Mossie bomber over there, because it has a bomber icon, while the MK VI has not.
The poor D3A has a bomber icon, despite being way smaller than a P-47.
If small icon= single plane and large icon = formation, it would also make for some interesting tactical choices...

The build in tail warning radar however is just horrible. You don't need to look around anymore, bad rearview doesn't even matter, just have the map open. Heck, you don't even need that, as any guy in a tower 300 miles away can give you a warning. (For anyone saying, "you should not stalk, you should fight!" - this IS part of the fight, trying to make use of blind spots of the enemy plane is part of combat tactics. Same as accepting cockpit view limitations in some planes. 
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 27, 2023, 08:22:21 PM
Concerning the bomber/fighter icon, it would have been much better if that wasn't depending on plane type, but by having a formation or not.
As it is, you can immediately tell that's an unarmed Mossie bomber over there, because it has a bomber icon, while the MK VI has not.
The poor D3A has a bomber icon, despite being way smaller than a P-47.
If small icon= single plane and large icon = formation, it would also make for some interesting tactical choices...

The build in tail warning radar however is just horrible. You don't need to look around anymore, bad rearview doesn't even matter, just have the map open. Heck, you don't even need that, as any guy in a tower 300 miles away can give you a warning. (For anyone saying, "you should not stalk, you should fight!" - this IS part of the fight, trying to make use of blind spots of the enemy plane is part of combat tactics. Same as accepting cockpit view limitations in some planes.
+1
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: 100Coogn on January 27, 2023, 08:27:29 PM
Concerning the bomber/fighter icon, it would have been much better if that wasn't depending on plane type, but by having a formation or not.
As it is, you can immediately tell that's an unarmed Mossie bomber over there, because it has a bomber icon, while the MK VI has not.
The poor D3A has a bomber icon, despite being way smaller than a P-47.
If small icon= single plane and large icon = formation, it would also make for some interesting tactical choices...

The build in tail warning radar however is just horrible. You don't need to look around anymore, bad rearview doesn't even matter, just have the map open. Heck, you don't even need that, as any guy in a tower 300 miles away can give you a warning. (For anyone saying, "you should not stalk, you should fight!" - this IS part of the fight, trying to make use of blind spots of the enemy plane is part of combat tactics. Same as accepting cockpit view limitations in some planes.

 :aok

Coogan
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Eagler on January 28, 2023, 07:41:50 AM
Just lowering the distance an icon is visible would help imo

MNM icon setting should be in MA

Dar bar should only show if in enemy territory to symbolize that they have been spotted and reported by someone on the ground...unless a friendly is within icon range, it could show then to regardless the map location

There needs to be a balance between the no surprise anyone at anytime as it is now in ma and the can't see anything , where is the fight, where the heck am I  experience I get in other ww2 a2a sim multiplayer servers..

Eagler
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 28, 2023, 12:17:55 PM
My only issue with the old radar system was how easy it was to knock out radar at a field, thus making it look like no action at a field if it went down. A bunch of flashing bases with a tiny dar doesn't project much action. I do agree that stand alone bombers should not have a big icon. Last night we had 3 players go to a Vbase to attack bombers, low and behold it was lone A20 that we wasted our time for, then had to fly past our field back to another field to defend which took an extra 10 minutes, by that time it was too late. I feel bad for that lone TBM off a CV causing 15 players to roll to get da bombers. I still wish Radar was a little harder to knock down, needs like 1.5k pounds and certainly nothing should show up outside radar range. One issue I dislike is that you could be in the middle fighting but still show up on the map so that it's easy to b-line right to a player to gang them even if they are outside of radar range.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 28, 2023, 12:40:22 PM
  dot dar x 100

I miss the old dot dar.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Oldman731 on January 28, 2023, 10:21:25 PM
I miss the old dot dar.


Not me.  Current settings make it easy to find fights, which is more important now that we have fewer people.

- oldman
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 28, 2023, 10:51:44 PM

Not me.  Current settings make it easy to find fights, which is more important now that we have fewer people.

- oldman

With the dot dar we could see that there were aircraft coming too.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on January 29, 2023, 12:04:43 PM
With the dot dar we could see that there were aircraft coming too.
it was good to run into you last night :salute

Come in at a higher attack angle and following through the attattack with descent makes it much harder to track with the guns. Just want to advice that helps.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: TequilaChaser on January 29, 2023, 12:18:18 PM
  :salute
.  :cheers:

Private Text Message...
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Shuffler on January 29, 2023, 01:06:53 PM
it was good to run into you last night :salute

Come in at a higher attack angle and following through the attattack with descent makes it much harder to track with the guns. Just want to advice that helps.  :cheers:

I had a lot of team chatter I was part of... did not know I ran into you. I missed it. LOL

Last night was a good fun margarita night... wooot!!  :cheers:  :salute
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: LCADolby on January 30, 2023, 06:46:53 AM
It doesn't help that dar can now tell what you're flying (bomber/fighter) and which way you're going.
That's when I called it quits. Dot-Dar was much better.  Actually had to try to make an educated guess of what was going on.

Coogan

I have to admit, you certainly have a point.

The mystery and tactical aspect is lost when the icon tells you 50% of the information you need to validate whether a target is worth chasing.
If it gave Speed and Alt I'm sure even more people would call it quits.
Dot dar is sorely missed from a gameplay perspective.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2023, 12:54:18 PM
To whom this may concern,

Over the past 2 months, I have observed over 3 dozen situations where ENY has affected countries without significant numbers to support the restrictions; In my humble opinion, they should not be penalized with ENY. This has been going on for years with the declining player base.

What I am observing on a continual basis is as follows.

1. Large forces of up to 35 players swarming a base with only 3-10 defenders. This happens on a regular basis during primetime. When the base is not captured the horde continues. After these players have their fill they log for the night creating a huge problem in regards to eny. Players that stay and fight through it, then continue to play once the horde logs, are then restricted to +20 ENY for several hours.

2. Large forces on the bishop side roll throughout the morning. This is countered at times with shade accounts. Up to 15 players continually roll bases after base. Once they are logged for the day this creates a huge eny problem for other countries for up to 2 hours. Eny of 10.5 to +20 is common almost daily from this scenario.

3. On several occasions I have observed a side winning the map and then not returning for up to an hour or more. While everyone else wants to get a good start on the next map, they are restricted to above +10 to as high as +20 eny for an hour or more.


This is both killing action creating game play and limiting paying customers from enjoying the game. I understand that eny is the lesser of two evils but ENY is only working against those not hording. If I stay around and fight 5-15 v 1 engagements for hours I should not get hit with high eny. I only fly b17's or b24's and I face on multiple occasions each week with restrictions when there should be none.

It is my opinion that ENY needs to be scaled back or eliminated entirely. The hordes roll with little to no eny. It is not OK to ask paying customers who wish to spend their time in this game to log off just so ENY can affect the enemy; or to switch sides after investing the time and energy for hours if not days to win the war for a particular side. The autoside switch does not work anymore the way it was intended and nobody uses it for the intended reason either. It is now used to perk farm.

Over the next week I will provide some solutions from players and myself and hopefully you will find one that works for everyone including the business.

Please go to the forums and read what others have said from posts that MERV has started which is my bbs member name.

Forgive my disruptive behavior at times. I'm passionate about this game. I do act immature at times but I am finally addressing my mental health.

<S> Finetime/HQRUS
Jordan Hartley

I'm just chiming in as a newish observer.

Settings vs Gamers vs Simmers. The differences should be obvious. If the gamer can't game the numbers into ridiculousness, they will leave. If the simmers can't have a more realistic game play, they leave.

AH has a problem, it's sitting on a razor fence to please both sides, when it's actually virtually impossible to please both. They are conflicting mindsets. Both pay, bot think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. One can toy with the settings until the world goes flat to no avail of happiness.

Gaming the game is the main culprit of losing players, the HOing is ridiculous nonsense. HOs are going to happen from time to time,.. when it's in the design of the flight,... its very bad for the game/sim.  This will also push the simmer who know they are going to be HOed every potato peelin flight, they have to pull the trigger. It's a very ugly epidemic. at 5-1 odds 3 of them instantly tried to HO me, one succeeding, that's some pansy bellybutton flying.

Hording unprotected bases, because they are unprotected,.....we all know what that is.

Settings (good or bad) are one thing, exploiting them is damaging. Allowing them to exploit them is disheartening.

Point being,.. to make things "right" which crowd do they try to please? If they can't make money it's mileage will vary.

From my experience, the gamer tends to cook the rest of the audience simply for immature shts and giggles. They don't care, they'll just jump to another sim and destroy that too. There is no one to fight because their NONSENSE chased em out.

While my unsolicited rant may not apply exactly to what you posted,... it's the gamer vs the simmer in a never ending battle.  Like most things, they will inspire a flame and personal attacks, because they have no merit to stand on in the debate, its a deflection from tardness.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: LCADolby on February 07, 2023, 01:00:53 PM
War Thunder satisfies Gamers, DCS satisfies Simmers, and AcesHigh is just diddlying awesome, but like great works of art, not appreciated in its own time.  :old:
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: evilseed on February 09, 2023, 11:19:34 PM
+1
 
I've only been back for a couple weeks, but end up logging over eye-popping ENY every other night.  By the time it balances there's like 7 players on, so the reward for sticking it out is having no one to play with.
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: molybdenum on February 10, 2023, 09:11:58 PM
Nothing is likely to change. HT is on mostly AFK mode. The "good" times are over, learn to live with the new reality, which is still enjoyable.
Even the hiding in buildings thing. If that's okay with HT, that's okay with me (haven't tried it in MA yet but probably will at some point).
Title: Re: Letter concerning ENY issues to HTC
Post by: mERv on February 11, 2023, 04:59:10 PM
Nothing is likely to change. HT is on mostly AFK mode. The "good" times are over, learn to live with the new reality, which is still enjoyable.
Even the hiding in buildings thing. If that's okay with HT, that's okay with me (haven't tried it in MA yet but probably will at some point).
there ya go osi :cheers: