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Title: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on March 09, 2023, 02:08:58 PM
When I was forced to leave in 09 when lightning smoked my gaming PC and everything else that was on, it was still AHII. Then work quadrupled and prolonged the return by many years. Sometimes working 50-60 days in a row with long hours, 2 days off, rinse and repeat. I was only "home" to eat, shower and sleep. There was ZERO time to get all setup again, my PCs would not handle it very well anyway.

Having lost my wife and son in 2010. the hell I lived through the last 14 years on top of that, I needed to find a happy place.

Now 2 years from retirement I started declining jobs to live a "normal" life again, not sure i know what that is, but I'm learning.

The itch never left. Finally, like others in a growing pattern I'm seeing today, I sprung and got another gaming PC.

This PC was not up and running 10 minutes before I DLed AHIII again. I was hoping that it was at least the same, despite the over the top rivalry and personal bashing by morons of the past who suffered from the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Took a good while to get some mysterious coating off on certain plastics in storage that was on my stick. Never found out what it was, other then a real mess. I was on a mission.

After 4-5 weeks into the game again,.. it was much better then I imagined.
The graphics in all areas are really nice and easy on the PC. They found that honey spot of great graphics vs amount of players at one time.
The comradery is high.
Despite some venting or sore loser taunting, which is normal, IMO, it's still less then years ago.
Despite some rantings about bugs,... there is really very few bugs from my POV. I wouldn't even know about them had they not been mentioned. What is there like 2? It's a very solid game as a whole. When I'm sniveling about Proxy Kills that means there is little error to find.

Anyone who knows me knows I was always looking for flaws and things to tweak or build, I've got nothing.
Ya, I can do sounds and probably will, but even the default are not bad, they just get old in the ears. The next set will get old too, do it anyway.

For those thinking about coming back, they won't be disappointed. It's a different game in the positive direction.

As for HT's remarks about no further development, but tweaks will happen. I can find fault with that if I look hard enough. Personally, I think he did meet his self-imposed mission/goal. I see very little that requires a major update. They gave plenty of tools to elongate the game and make it even better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd like to see more presence, but hell back in the day of AW, I saw one single post from the suits, and it was bad news. HT and his team was much more apart of the community then coders/suits in any other game I've been in, so any absence is just noticed more. He's living life, good for him. For some of us, he gave us life, a happy place.

I see those numbers creeping up as people get new gear. The most common post I see is someone getting a new PC to get back in the game. I don't see any good-bye posts. I'm thinking the game just hit a valley of peaks and valleys.

Again, if you have the itch, scratch it. I'm happy to be back. It is well worth the journey. I'm just sad about missing 14 yrs. I was impressed my first day back, and that hasn't faded.

The best advise I could give is "just do it". It's still addicting, it's still a blast, maybe more so.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Oldman731 on March 09, 2023, 03:12:42 PM
Good post.

- oldman
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Prayer on March 09, 2023, 03:49:02 PM
As someone who stopped around 2010 and is returning soon I can appreciate this post in many ways.
 
 Have you gave VR a shot since you have been back? I ordered a Oculus Quest 2 while I wait on pedals and stick to come.

 Hopefully we will get a chance to fly together Animl.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on March 09, 2023, 04:01:14 PM
Good post.

- oldman

Quit your whining....   :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Dadtallica on March 09, 2023, 06:30:03 PM
Quit your whining....   :rofl :rofl :rofl

Sorry for your loss!
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Cremator on March 09, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
I’m with you. Tonight was my first night back on since 2010. New PC that I’m dedicating to just this game and photos. It was awesome to get back in the saddle. I didn’t do much, tweaked my controllers, mapped keys, set up some things and played around in a Brewster.  Looking forward to seeing everyone again. I’m excited to be itching a scratch from long ago. I’ll be easy pickings for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on March 10, 2023, 02:40:37 PM
Good post.

- oldman

OM forgot to tell you.... I got a new walker with halos , digital horn, and a bell. Everyone at the store moves out of the way when I come shuffling through now.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Oldman731 on March 10, 2023, 05:07:58 PM
OM forgot to tell you.... I got a new walker with halos , digital horn, and a bell. Everyone at the store moves out of the way when I come shuffling through now.


You need a Three Wolf Moon t-shirt to complete the getup.

- oldman
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on March 10, 2023, 10:44:09 PM

You need a Three Wolf Moon t-shirt to complete the getup.

- oldman

 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

 :old:
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on March 10, 2023, 11:03:15 PM
As someone who stopped around 2010 and is returning soon I can appreciate this post in many ways.
 
 Have you gave VR a shot since you have been back? I ordered a Oculus Quest 2 while I wait on pedals and stick to come.

 Hopefully we will get a chance to fly together Animl.

No VR, YET. I'll have to figure out how to check 6 if I do, I'll be having neck pains lol
I haven't even dug out comm headset yet.

Sure bud, I'll fly with ya. I usually fly at night.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 11, 2023, 07:09:54 AM
Checking 6 in AH with VR is simple as it has the jstick views incorporated into vr unlike any other flight sim

It is old people neck friendly :)

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: The Fugitive on March 11, 2023, 08:19:59 AM
No VR, YET. I'll have to figure out how to check 6 if I do, I'll be having neck pains lol
I haven't even dug out comm headset yet.

Sure bud, I'll fly with ya. I usually fly at night.

Views in VR are are sweet. Instead of using all 8 switches on a hatswitch for views all you need is the "rear" view, and maybe the "up" view.  Hold down the rear view button and you can move your head/view through that whole hemisphere the same as when your looking forward. The same goes for looking up.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Mongoose on March 11, 2023, 09:51:49 AM
Views in VR are are sweet. Instead of using all 8 switches on a hatswitch for views all you need is the "rear" view, and maybe the "up" view.  Hold down the rear view button and you can move your head/view through that whole hemisphere the same as when your looking forward. The same goes for looking up.

This is good news.  I have a stiff neck and looking behind me is a problem.  Now all I have to do is get the money to afford a VR system.

Oh, well.  My single computer screen will do just fine in the mean time.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: detch01 on March 11, 2023, 10:07:29 AM
Animl. Glad to see you back sir.  :aok
My condolences for your loss.
I left the game in 2009, moved out of the city in 2012 and burned my city-boy card. I never thought I'd have the connection to play the game again. I took a crack at it in the middle teens for a bit but my connection made the game unplayable. Your right, the itch ever goes away. New ISP with a 5G connection and a new PC in January so I thought what the hell, give it a try about a month ago and it worked. The rust has been coming off one flake at a time. Dale, Doug and crew did something amazing when they built this game.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shane on March 11, 2023, 10:47:23 PM
Ask Eagler to give you the hype about AH implementation of VR + hatswitches... no need to crank your neck around.



This is good news.  I have a stiff neck and looking behind me is a problem.  Now all I have to do is get the money to afford a VR system.

Oh, well.  My single computer screen will do just fine in the mean time.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on March 12, 2023, 07:44:54 AM
I just sit in my 38J backwards. I used to ride my bike like that all over the neighborhood.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: fd ski on March 13, 2023, 03:49:15 AM
sorry for your loss. Glad to have you back, try VR definatelly. It breaths new life into an aging game.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Molsman on March 23, 2023, 01:16:00 AM
OM forgot to tell you.... I got a new walker with halos , digital horn, and a bell. Everyone at the store moves out of the way when I come shuffling through now.

So ya got a newer version of your blender  :bolt:
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2023, 08:50:16 PM

You need a Three Wolf Moon t-shirt to complete the getup.

- oldman

 :aok

And zebra pants!
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Rich46yo on March 27, 2023, 03:07:14 PM
I just signed in for a minute. These big maps are a serious mistake. Now im sure nobody is going to listen to me but this game can't sustain these big maps anymore. I'd rather play 24/7 that small map we had yesterday and never play another map then rotate these big ones in.

The numbers simply aren't there.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Dadtallica on March 27, 2023, 04:06:49 PM
I just signed in for a minute. These big maps are a serious mistake. Now im sure nobody is going to listen to me but this game can't sustain these big maps anymore. I'd rather play 24/7 that small map we had yesterday and never play another map then rotate these big ones in.

The numbers simply aren't there.

They work out ok during prime time. Most of the time. There has been a lot of recent good discussions about maps and eny if you want to do search it up.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2023, 11:19:50 AM
I just signed in for a minute. These big maps are a serious mistake. Now im sure nobody is going to listen to me but this game can't sustain these big maps anymore. I'd rather play 24/7 that small map we had yesterday and never play another map then rotate these big ones in.

The numbers simply aren't there.

We have been trying to get the map list edited to remove the largest map while putting the smaller ones in more often but have had zero response from hitech...you will have some to say to call the guy up and bug him but that's not what should be needed in a pay to play app imo

All the maps need at least one or two grids removed around the edges to concentrate the action imo

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: The Fugitive on March 28, 2023, 03:05:37 PM
We have been trying to get the map list edited to remove the largest map while putting the smaller ones in more often but have had zero response from hitech...you will have some to say to call the guy up and bug him but that's not what should be needed in a pay to play app imo

All the maps need at least one or two grids removed around the edges to concentrate the action imo

Eagler

Removing the grids around the edge is like building a new map, its not just a "clip".

As for calling Hitech, Id say it was a great idea, not to bug him, but to get an answer. He will more than likely tell you why he wont do it, or would consider it.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2023, 04:06:24 PM
Why would he tell any one of us if we called him yet he won't answer all of us here by posting his response ??

So he is leaving it up to one of us to call him up personally
and then get the answers to our development questions then post his response back here for the rest of us to read?

WTH???

Sorry ain't my job nor should it be any other paying subs imo

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on March 28, 2023, 04:15:22 PM
So he is leaving it up to one of us to call him up personally
and then get the answers to our development questions then post his response back here for the rest of us to read?

You could be like Moses.   :rofl


(https://www.dropbox.com/s/tn635k4nbkrtldw/moses.png?raw=1)
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on March 28, 2023, 04:25:29 PM
Using Aces High and development in the same sentence.  :rofl
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Dadtallica on March 28, 2023, 05:54:19 PM
Many people don’t play this game to find lots of action. Many play just go off and do stuff in their own.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: The Fugitive on March 28, 2023, 06:42:38 PM
Why would he tell any one of us if we called him yet he won't answer all of us here by posting his response ??

So he is leaving it up to one of us to call him up personally
and then get the answers to our development questions then post his response back here for the rest of us to read?

WTH???

Sorry ain't my job nor should it be any other paying subs imo

Eagler

LOL! OK, you just keep posting that same question here about the maps, after all its working out so well to get you an answer!  :rofl

I highly doubt Hitech spends anything but the minimal amount of his time reading the boards.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2023, 07:58:52 AM
My guess is the last thing he wants is for us to call him up and bother him personally about this game

See where DCS is now multithreaded with improved frame rates..I didn't even have to call anyone, the news is on the net

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 29, 2023, 09:25:55 PM
I just signed in for a minute. These big maps are a serious mistake. Now im sure nobody is going to listen to me but this game can't sustain these big maps anymore. I'd rather play 24/7 that small map we had yesterday and never play another map then rotate these big ones in.

The numbers simply aren't there.

Been "complaining" as they say, about it for a while now. Unfortunately the creator doesn't play the game enough to understand the gameplay during off hours and how it's boring when there is no streamline area to fight. Bombing or Jabo bases by yourself gets old after 2-3 sorties when it takes 10 minutes to climb out and get to the base twiddling your thumbs on the way. These smaller maps make the off hours much more enjoyable. BowlMA during off hours you might as well go stand outside or do something else cuz you ain't gonna find much to fight.

Unfortunately this slow gameplay has forced many of the fighters to go play faster games with more action per hour. I love this game to death because of the MA style, but absolutely hate logging into a huge map on a saturday afternoon and seeing no fights with tiny little dar bars with maybe one guy in the sector who may or may not engage or roll again if you shoot them or they just runaway ect. I'm not gonna roll for 1 kill. You can clearly see the #s higher on certain maps that draw streamline action. I'm not sure why it's so hard to just let a couple of maps go.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Dadtallica on March 29, 2023, 11:08:06 PM
Been "complaining" as they say, about it for a while now. Unfortunately the creator doesn't play the game enough to understand the gameplay during off hours and how it's boring when there is no streamline area to fight. Bombing or Jabo bases by yourself gets old after 2-3 sorties when it takes 10 minutes to climb out and get to the base twiddling your thumbs on the way. These smaller maps make the off hours much more enjoyable. BowlMA during off hours you might as well go stand outside or do something else cuz you ain't gonna find much to fight.

Unfortunately this slow gameplay has forced many of the fighters to go play faster games with more action per hour. I love this game to death because of the MA style, but absolutely hate logging into a huge map on a saturday afternoon and seeing no fights with tiny little dar bars with maybe one guy in the sector who may or may not engage or roll again if you shoot them or they just runaway ect. I'm not gonna roll for 1 kill. You can clearly see the #s higher on certain maps that draw streamline action. I'm not sure why it's so hard to just let a couple of maps go.

Well I like the big maps. Not everyone wants to have massive fights all day.

He plays way more than we would ever know. Imagine if it were you.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Brooke on March 30, 2023, 02:54:03 AM
Smaller maps are the way to go.

If you want action.

Amount of action is proportional to players per battle area.  (Using "action" here to mean combat per player.)

We do this in scenarios.  We use smaller battle areas today than 15 years ago.  We have more action in today's scenarios with 50 players than we did in many past scenarios with 150 players.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 30, 2023, 08:41:23 AM
Well I like the big maps. Not everyone wants to have massive fights all day.

He plays way more than we would ever know. Imagine if it were you.

I guess the 20 players actively in a sortie maybe, shooting buildings in a town or strat by themselves. The rest of people are looking for some kind of action and log off if there is none. Even on a smaller map, there are plenty of places to go bomb or tank by yourself. The issue with large maps is that it makes the game look unactionable like no one is even playing. That's not what most people want to see when they log into a game. For newer players, they will have no clue where to roll to find some action.

Smaller maps are the way to go.

If you want action.

Amount of action is proportional to players per battle area.  (Using "action" here to mean combat per player.)

We do this in scenarios.  We use smaller battle areas today than 15 years ago.  We have more action in today's scenarios with 50 players than we did in many past scenarios with 150 players.

Makes all the sense in the world. This brings out the best of AH IMO.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
Low numbers dictate smaller maps or going from 3 sides to 2 or both

We will get neither it seems

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: molybdenum on March 30, 2023, 07:39:07 PM
I just signed in for a minute. These big maps are a serious mistake. Now im sure nobody is going to listen to me but this game can't sustain these big maps anymore. I'd rather play 24/7 that small map we had yesterday and never play another map then rotate these big ones in.

The numbers simply aren't there.

Variety is the spice of life. And I am primarily a bomber pilot. Small maps give me fewer options, and low numbers mean if I do something solo I probably get killed with nothing to show for it. Why play, then?

Another perspective.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Rich46yo on March 31, 2023, 05:38:45 AM
Quote
Why play, then?

On that we can agree and I wont be sticking around.

And joining all the others who have left the game. I'd thought these big maps were History. I was wrong. A flight combat sim is supposed to have actual combat not a flying tour of huge empty spaces. AH doesn't have 500 players online anymore and seeing these huge maps with 20 players on 3 sides, 1/2 of them in GV's, is just pathetic.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on March 31, 2023, 07:14:06 AM
These maps are small


DCS maps are huge and I can see complaining about that


AH maps are tiny, the game is tiny


Either play the game or do not play the game as it is provided
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2023, 07:26:12 AM
Even with low numbers and too large of maps AH does provide more action than I find in IL2 or DCS iconless maps..

I don't bother with arcade world of planes..

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on March 31, 2023, 07:53:51 AM


I don't bother with arcade world of planes..

Eagler

You play Aces High. That is the most arcade ish game right under War Thunder and you know it.

Come play in Enigmas Cold War server. You'll find action faster than any other game and any other server.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2023, 09:11:19 AM
You play Aces High. That is the most arcade ish game right under War Thunder and you know it.

Come play in Enigmas Cold War server. You'll find action faster than any other game and any other server.

No jets thanks

What is/was your AH handle?

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on March 31, 2023, 09:21:36 AM
Still don't change the size of the maps in AH. They are tiny maps in comparison.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: edge12674 on March 31, 2023, 11:44:00 AM
Even with low numbers and too large of maps AH does provide more action than I find in IL2 or DCS iconless maps..

I don't bother with arcade world of planes..

Eagler

Depends on where you look. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ7Flg2SUeM

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on March 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
You play Aces High. That is the most arcade ish game right under War Thunder and you know it.

Come play in Enigmas Cold War server. You'll find action faster than any other game and any other server.

IMO
1) DCS seems to be a money pit, which can exclude many would-be players.
2) DCS FM seems to have issues, according to many players, and many admit AH FM is closer to reality.
3) Many who fly here have been doing so for 20+years. They have a history with AH. It's like breaking up a 20+ yr marriage.
4) I've seem comments that one can fly for a hour and not see a plane, and visibility isn't great.
5) DCS is more of a sim, AH is sim played as a game. The sacrifice of some graphics is what allows large numbers playing.
6) AH is just more fun

THAT SAID, to each their own. I think they each draw different crowds.
One relies more on graphics
One relies more on game play.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Dadtallica on March 31, 2023, 06:45:31 PM
Trying to make this game even more compact is not the way to attract more players. I liken this to the number of countries debate. It’s not a currently popular opinion but three maps is going to always be better than two. The game and its strategies would change dramatically and you should be careful what you wish for.

And sorry but no I don’t want to get into a lengthy discussion on this… it doesn’t matter anyway.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on March 31, 2023, 07:38:35 PM
IMO
1) DCS seems to be a money pit, which can exclude many would-be players.
2) DCS FM seems to have issues, according to many players, and many admit AH FM is closer to reality.
3) Many who fly here have been doing so for 20+years. They have a history with AH. It's like breaking up a 20+ yr marriage.
4) I've seem comments that one can fly for a hour and not see a plane, and visibility isn't great.
5) DCS is more of a sim, AH is sim played as a game. The sacrifice of some graphics is what allows large numbers playing.
6) AH is just more fun

THAT SAID, to each their own. I think they each draw different crowds.
One relies more on graphics
One relies more on game play.

It wasn't a game comparison

other than map size
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 31, 2023, 07:44:19 PM
DCS is very purdy but the flight model is totally different. I wouldn't consider it a money pit compared to AH subscription every month but you do need a good setup with controls. Free download but you have to buy the planes and some maps only once though. It's a different game for sure. Some great things to it but also some challenging things regarding flight model and plane mechanical understanding. It's a completely different type of game and will take time to set up and learn. It certainly makes AH look like an arcade game relatively speaking, however AH has the MA and special events which makes it one of a kind, and it's also not easy and takes situational and ACM combat understanding in a world map to be successful. These are really strong skills to learn. You also have way more planes, more people in an arena, bombers and tanks that DCS doesn't have.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 01, 2023, 07:53:24 AM
DCS is very purdy but the flight model is totally different. I wouldn't consider it a money pit compared to AH subscription every month but you do need a good setup with controls. Free download but you have to buy the planes and some maps only once though. It's a different game for sure. Some great things to it but also some challenging things regarding flight model and plane mechanical understanding. It's a completely different type of game and will take time to set up and learn. It certainly makes AH look like an arcade game relatively speaking, however AH has the MA and special events which makes it one of a kind, and it's also not easy and takes situational and ACM combat understanding in a world map to be successful. These are really strong skills to learn. You also have way more planes, more people in an arena, bombers and tanks that DCS doesn't have.

Modules do cost money.

For example my Huey costs $50 or $24.99 on sale. After playing the module for three years I would say they could charge $100 for it and I would pay it

If you get DCS direct from eagle dynamics (open beta version) you can trial the modules to see if you like them or not for two weeks.

For first time buyers of DCS modules-----ANYTHING IN THE CART IS 50% OFF not available on steam.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2023, 08:39:18 AM
At least there is movement there

https://youtu.be/-NOGL6R3skE

Multi threaded VR looks promising

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: edge12674 on April 01, 2023, 09:02:39 AM
Funny, I did not find the flight model in DCS to be that much different than AH.  Ground handling is harder, as it is more realistic for tail draggers.  While flying, some attention to engine management is needed, but it mostly boils down to setting manifold pressure and RPM to constant power settings, again more realistic. 

The learning curve can seem daunting, but you don't have to learn everything at once (small bites).  The sim can start the aircraft for you step by step, you can "hot start" with everything already running for you, or even "air start" where you are already in the air.  Whatever aircraft you want to fly there is a wealth of YouTube tutorials, forum tutorials, and manuals to learn every aspect of the aircraft.
 
I have the P-51, Spitfire, P-47, Mosquito, and I-16.  I have not even touched the German iron yet.

I found the player numbers misleading in DCS.  While finding servers with 30+ players is common, that doesn't tell the whole story.  The majority of DCS game play is PvE.  The A/I of both air and ground units are much more capable/realistic than in AH.  More importantly the A/I maintains a "warriors" attitude.  It does not constantly run away from fights when it does not have vastly superior numbers.  This player trait (outside of Monday Night Madness) was the main reason I stopped flying the MA.  With A/I, the numbers in the servers are two to three times the number of human players.  The combination of human and A/I means the fights are not hard to find while still being challenging.  It also means there is always a fight available 24/7.

I was a devout AH member for 20+ years and it did feel like the end of a marriage when I quit.  I am thankful to HiTech for the fond memories.  That said, it is refreshing to have a sim where the developers post WEEKLY news updates and meaningful patches once or twice a month.

DCS has one of the best free trail programs.  The base game is free with several aircraft and maps.  Do a search on "DCS A-4E Skyhawk" and you will have an unlimited, completely free, sim that will allow you to explore ALL aspects of what DCS has to offer.  The A-4 is an early jet.  Learn it and you will be setup for either WWII or modern jets.  It is full fidelity, and is COMPLETELY FREE!

For me to spend $180 a year on a sim, I require more value than AH is currently giving.  Everyone is different, my point is that there are alternatives out there that will cost you nothing, but your time.  Don't be scared.       

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 01, 2023, 09:13:19 AM
At least there is movement there

https://youtu.be/-NOGL6R3skE

Multi threaded VR looks promising


It's a totally different animal than AH.  AH is more like War Thunder.  I don't mean that in a bad way.  I mean in it's planeset size, level of simulation and arena model.  AH is the next level above WT, but similar flavor.

DCS reminds me more of the old days like when you'd buy Falcon 3.0.  A much deeper dive into one airframe at a time. 

If you have to have 50 planes then DCS can be expensive.  But in reality most people don't fly most planes in the AH hangar.  People tend to have 2 or 3 that they like (or 1).  In that sense DCS is not more expensive over time.

But for your money you get regular dev update posts on where they are at, where they are going, and often a best guess on when they are hoping to get there.
You get continual, on-going software development not only from ED, but from their 3rd party developers.  So you have ongoing development from multiple sources. 

Where they fail is they haven't had a good arena concept.  But with user built servers like Enigma's Cold War, they are starting to figure that out. 



Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: edge12674 on April 01, 2023, 09:37:29 AM
Btw, here is a link to the A-4 Skyhawk that gives you an idea of what's available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlE2nPgP6WU&t=3s
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: mechanic on April 01, 2023, 09:43:22 AM
At least there is movement there

https://youtu.be/-NOGL6R3skE

Multi threaded VR looks promising

Eagler

Hi Eagler,

I've been playing DCS WWII and Cold War for a while, mostly offline or in small private servers. Always with VR, though I did have to buy a whole new rig to run it properly. Worth the investment. There is nothing quite like sitting in a 3D 109K4 cockpit.

If you ever want to play a few one of one fights, or even just enjoy formation flying, let me know. I'm keen.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2023, 09:46:54 AM
Howdy Tshark

Do you play the beta version of dcs?

I think that is multi threaded if I read it correctly

What servers do you enjoy?

Any with icons as I can't see anything in dcs or il2 without them

Miss you in MNM

<S>

Eagler
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2023, 09:56:46 AM
Howdy batfink

I have the dcs k4 and a couple of other dcs planes

I have enjoyed the k4 - nothing like getting excited with just a successful takeoff and landing while not blowing the engine :)

The lack of icons adds difficulty in locating targets and even knowing where I am on the map

I am switching computers and have not moved dcs to the new box yet totally - need to figure out how to move the purchased planes and settings

My previous cpu ran it ok but am hoping the new box smooths out VR as it would get blurry during engagements

Which servers do you enjoy?

Are you batfink there too?

Take care

Eagler

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: edge12674 on April 01, 2023, 12:42:58 PM
Howdy Tshark

Do you play the beta version of dcs?

I think that is multi threaded if I read it correctly

What servers do you enjoy?

Any with icons as I can't see anything in dcs or il2 without them

Miss you in MNM

<S>

Eagler

Yo Eagler

Yes, Open Beta is what I suggest everyone go to.  It has more features, updates, and better promotional sales.  It also does not require Steam.  Currently multi-threading is only available in Open Beta and has resulted in allowing many older systems to run DCS.  It is an option so you can try both single thread and multi-thread version.

I routinely fly a private server with a group based in the UK, as well as two player server that I fly with an old squadmate from AH.  Icons are an option depending on the mission and can be toggled on or off.

Yesterday, I flew with the Brits and it went like this:

There were four us (including a retired Tornado fighter pilot) that met up on Teamspeak.  We decided what we wanted to fly, in this case F-18s with icons on.  One player hosted the mission on a private server and we all joined.  It was a hot start on the ramp and we taxied to the runway and took off.  We flew a route that took us into air to air combat (there were over 30 A/I combatants between the two sides).  Two of us got shot down and had to air spawn back into the action.  Between the four of us we got five kills.  From there it was an NOE run through canyons to drop high drag bombs on multiple ground targets.  Then fly home and land.  Entire mission just over 1 hour.

My old squadmate and I fly a lot of WWII.  We meet up on Teamspeak and one of us hosts a WWII British coastal defense mission that he created (mission creation tools are included with the free DCS basic game).  We start out cold on the ramp (usually in Mossie's or Spitfires).  After start up, we taxi, take off, and begin patrolling the coast.  We are randomly vectored to various threats.  These might be inbound fighters/bombers, surfaced U-boats shelling the coast, schnell boats trying to land German commandos, etc.  The mission lasts as long as we wish.

DCS is not as limited as AH in game play.  You can fly single player missions, multiplayer missions with a few friends, or public missions that are open to everyone.  There are also campaigns (a series of missions that progress) that can be played both single and multiplayer.  You can fly PvE, PvP, or combination of both.  Missions created by other people can be downloaded for free, or you can create your own to play by yourself or with others.

If you are interested, pm me sometime and we can see if we can meet up.  I can get you up to speed on Teamspeak and we try a mission or two.  There are also training servers open to the public where there others willing to teach.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: AKIron on April 01, 2023, 02:50:28 PM
Trying DCS isn't being disloyal to Aces High. You have time for both.

The free F-104 mod for DCS was just greatly improved. If you try it be sure to select the George AFB skin. Shiny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AolZn13OgPA

I made a couple of videos a while back on how to use OvGME for managing the many free DCS mods.

https://youtu.be/_STNLtzyWDE

https://youtu.be/GTWdlGOyR7M

https://youtu.be/T_7rTA0OwZY


Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Rich46yo on April 01, 2023, 03:47:41 PM
Between the big maps and bug with the VKB controllers I ended my account.

Best wishes to all and thanks for the good times. To all the fallen I wish God speed. Many good people have died since I first joined and they are missed. I was probably on 6 or 8 squads thru the years, and flew with many more, all good people. Always good times. I even killed Lusche once.  :D

                                                                                      "bombrich" signing off for the last time.  :salute
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: wolvrine on April 07, 2023, 02:57:47 PM
WOW!... I've been gone since 2013 and Aces High still comes to my mind. It's nice to be back in the free world. My computer is gone along with all my controls not to mention all my vehicles and tools. Starting all over again from scratch. Sooner or later I'm bound to get a new pc...thinking bout giving Aces another whack.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 07, 2023, 06:42:24 PM
You won’t regret it. Its a great break from hard times. Its still fun.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Brooke on April 08, 2023, 03:25:57 PM
Sooner or later I'm bound to get a new pc...thinking bout giving Aces another whack.

Cheap ($468) PC build for good Aces High action, 2023 edition.  60 frames per second.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407033.0.html
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: mechanic on April 09, 2023, 03:44:14 AM
Howdy batfink

I have the dcs k4 and a couple of other dcs planes

I have enjoyed the k4 - nothing like getting excited with just a successful takeoff and landing while not blowing the engine :)

The lack of icons adds difficulty in locating targets and even knowing where I am on the map

I am switching computers and have not moved dcs to the new box yet totally - need to figure out how to move the purchased planes and settings

My previous cpu ran it ok but am hoping the new box smooths out VR as it would get blurry during engagements

Which servers do you enjoy?

Are you batfink there too?

Take care

Eagler


I had to build a new rig from scratch.

3900x
RTX 3090
64gb memory

Works very well. I have big hopes for multi-threading as the bottleneck seems to be too many AI units in big missions.

I'm running the sim through steam not the standalone. Callsign fink on steam. Most of the time i'll just spin up a tempory mission online with the scenario required from big missions to a simple 1v1 setup.  There are a few decent WWII servers that are public also.

Do you play via steam? We are also using discord for comms.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 09, 2023, 08:23:09 AM
Stand alone is the way to go, as you can trial the modules to see if you like them.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 11, 2023, 03:47:38 PM
Stand alone is the way to go, as you can trial the modules to see if you like them.

You should go play it. This thread is about AH.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 11, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
You should go play it. This thread is about AH.

I play both games.

Why are you so bothered by another game?? That 80% of the people your missing in this game are now playing??

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 11, 2023, 04:41:46 PM
Stand alone is the way to go, as you can trial the modules to see if you like them.

SO I viewed your films of DCS. Except with more modern planes and cockpits  and more modern terrain vs WWII era style terrain, didn't see anything that impressed me anymore then AH. It's a different player for sure. Some graphics are slightly better on some things, but totally not out of reach for AH. And AH IS more fun,... unless one likes sight-seeing instead of fighting.

I don't really care what the next sales pitch is,..different strokes for different folks.

But ya really otta stop hijacking everyone's threads, except your own, to make sure everyone gets a steady diet of DCS. Why is there no mention of DCS in your own titles and threads? How many times has someone asked you 'Why are you here?" SO its really not just me. <shrug> You're like going into McDonalds and selling Burger King. Talk about DCS in your own threads? <shrug>
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Shuffler on April 12, 2023, 09:00:05 AM
I play both games.

Why are you so bothered by another game?? That 80% of the people your missing in this game are now playing??
You are bothered by another game. I am here in AH on AH's boards.

It's not unsusual for folks to come in here and try to undermine this game though.

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 09:29:45 AM
Ya I saw an issue on DCS BBs. When researching AH and DCS i saw the very huge thread from a few yrs ago, about an AH player talking AH. That crowd hammered him and requested his thread be removed and banned. I could be wrong, but could swear you and your buddy CptTripps were the ones with the noose, hammering him for posting about anything not DCS. What were there like 300 replies in that thread?

 If you weren’t worried about your fav game you wouldn’t be here selling it, by hijacking popular threads like mine. Its become obvious what you’re doing.

Talking about it is one thing. It happens on all boards. Talking about it like a sales pitch on a daily diet in other AH based threads us another.

Good chance you don’t start your own threads about it bc it would prolly be removed.

Just stay out of my threads if no one else cares. This is AH on AH bbs, about AH. You don’t see me replying to others replies about DCS, do you? I wonder why. They don’t turn every subject into it.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 09:31:43 AM
SO I viewed your films of DCS.

Did you steal those too?
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 09:32:56 AM
but could swear you and your buddy CptTripps were the ones with the noose

Please provide a link of me posting in that thread, genius.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:15:20 AM
Take note: Tripps was also of the anti-Animl helping AH tribe, trying to discredit me and the vid. I wonder why that crowd didn’t want it to happen.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:20:46 AM
Did you steal those too?

Yep! Wrapped them up with my video and and Chalengers sounds and sold it to CHYna for shark fins, where its played everywhere,, its even on monkey porn sites there.

Ironic you don’t deny my finding.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:22:36 AM
You two are so cute as a tag team.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:25:47 AM
You two are so cute as a tag team.

Have you found the link in question?  You claimed I posted in some anti-AH thread.  Provide that link please.

Or is this your backhand attempt to admitting you were lying?


Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:30:21 AM
Have you found the link in question?  You claimed I posted in some anti-AH thread.  Provide that link please.

Or is this your backhand attempt to admitting you were lying?

If i found it by accident 2 months ago, I’m sure I can find it again. I don’t care if you accuse me of lying. I read it. I don’t need to prove what you’re doing, you’re doing it for me.  Remember I said I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading your names a lot in that thread. You didn’t deny it, you just said post the link.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:36:20 AM
If i found it by accident 2 months sho, I’m sure I can find it again. I don’t care if you accuse me of lying. I read it. I don’t need to prove what you’re doing, you’re doing it for me.

There is not link.  You are lying again.

I've only ever posted in their Mission Editor and Scripting forums.  Maybe one in the Apache 64 forum when it came out.

Provide the link you claim, or that is in itself admission of lying.

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:38:07 AM
Why am I such a threat to your agenda? You seem to want to diminish my reputation, most know better about? Very few are buying your lies, they know me better. But try you will.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:38:52 AM
Why am I such a threat to your agenda?

Provide the link you claim, or that is in itself admission of lying.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:44:08 AM
Provide the link you claim, or that is in itself admission of lying.

Was it you or not? You know that answer.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:45:51 AM
Was it you or not? You know that answer.

Can you not read plain English, genius?

I've only ever posted in their Mission Editor and Scripting forums.  Maybe one in the Apache 64 forum when it came out.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:47:40 AM
Provide the link you claim, or that is in itself admission of lying.

Nope, not posting it, just gives you a platform to spew DCS banter in AH bbs. You know if you did or not. But if you say no i could post it elsewhere outside this bbs. So which is it? Am I wrong or not?
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
Nope, not posting it, just gives you a platform to spew DCS banter in AH bbs. You know if you did or not. But if you say no i could post it elsewhere outside this bbs. So which is it? Am I wrong or not?

You have no link of me posting in an AH bashing thread on the DCS forum.  You are a liar.

Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:50:09 AM
Btw. Those that know me already know you’re lying about me. I doubt they taje your wird as Credible. Why you trying so hard? Worried?
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:52:22 AM
Btw. Those that know me already know you’re lying about me. I doubt they taje your wird as Credible. Why you trying so hard? Worried?

Stop deflecting.

You have no link of me posting in an AH bashing thread on the DCS forum.  You are a liar.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: Animl-AW on April 12, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
I don’t need credit for anything. I get much bigger credit at work. Not out to make something of my name. I don’t need credit fir anyones work in a game. Again, most know you’re lying. Btw, you’re now on ignore. You’re not worth my time.
Title: Re: My take after my return.
Post by: CptTrips on April 12, 2023, 10:56:32 AM
Btw, you’re now on ignore. You’re not worth my time.

And the reader will note, no link was provided of me posting in an AH bashing thread on the DCS forum, after several opportunities to do so. 

He is a liar.