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Offline gofaster

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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2003, 09:13:14 AM »
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College requirement of at least 2 years is common? Common in your dept., but, are you generalizing? Thats probably not common. No degree is required, just 2 years of attendance? Grades? Just show up for 2 years, well, that weeds out allot.


Lizard, I get the feeling you're not in college.  You can't just show up in class and expect to make it past 3 months.  The university has a way of weeding out the ineffective students.  "Weeding out" is a common college student term for the process of identifying the less-than-the-best.  Either you can cut it, or you can't.  If you can't, then you're out.  It doesn't mean you're bad, it means you just weren't good enough.

Most major metropolitan law enforcement departments now require a 2-year Associate's degree, some even require a 4-year Bachelor's degree.  Other departments that post a minimum of a high school education have an unofficial requirement of a 2-year degree, meaning you may meet the bare minimum of education required by the department, but the other applicants have their Associate's degree and you don't, so guess who doesn't make it past the initial interview and gets weeded out.

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So, according to you, most cops are good. Good what? Good cops? And that means what? Arresting perps? Or are you saying they're good people?


Cops have to pass both a background check and a psych evaluation, plus written exams and physical tests of endurance, strength, and flexibility.  So yeah, cops as a whole are going to be better people than, say, the workers at the telephone company.

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OK, you need to explain this a bit further.

"The real crying shame is that the pool to draw on for new officers is the same gene pool that you came from. It means that someone with an attitude like yours has to be weeded out but nothing is perfect."

What do you mean by "weeded out"? Capped? Man, I could take that as a threat, but since I KNOW you didn't mean that, I'll just let it slide(unlike a cop huh?) and think you mean that if people like me applied for cop jobs we should not be accepted.


Yes, you would not be accepted as a police officer.  Your inability to recognize a volitile situation and defuse it with either words or action would be cause for your elimination from the application process.  And you would probably not pass the psych evalution, either.

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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2003, 10:33:10 AM »
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You should see how badly the Canadian govn't has screwed over the Indians and eskimos. :aok


What? :confused:

They pay no taxes and have ancestral rights they should not have and we are screwing them?

Some of them who claim ancestral fishing rights are now taking lobsters.
How the hell do you think they were taking lobster before we arived since they had no fishing equipment.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2003, 06:06:46 PM by AVRO1 »

Offline Lizard3

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Re: Is there a problem officer?
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2003, 06:04:23 PM »
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Yes, you would not be accepted as a police officer.  Your inability to recognize a volitile situation and defuse it with either words or action would be cause for your elimination from the application process.  And you would probably not pass the psych evalution, either.


Sorry, I thought I made myself clear. For the record, I would never under penalty of death ever entertain the idea of joining your club.

I recognize volitile situations, its not my job to defuse them and if your saying that thats what coppers do, I've yet to see it. Mav seemed to have visions of brooms sticks dancing in his head.

So, in parting you state that I would fail a cops psych eval. I'm relieved to say the least, but I'm sure you didn't intend it as a compliment. Your the second one to drop the hint that because I am so bold as to state my feelings and experiences on this subject that I'm somehow nuts. Typical. Do you fellas not understand that alot of people don't like you, don't trust you and think your profession is pretty much a waste of money. Clerks with cars. I am generalizing of course. Not all cops are bad, and not all departments are wastes.

I've seen cops dealing drugs. I've seen cops confiscate drugs for there own personal use. I've heard of cops tipping off there dealer friends so they don't get busted. I've seen cops harass people for kicks. I lived in a town where a cop pulled over a sweet innocent girl engaged to be married in less than a month. Who strangled her and dropped her off a bridge into a ravine. Why? For kicks. He wanted to see what it felt like. I guess the weeding out process missed one huh?

For all I've personally seen, there is 100's more that I've heard of. For all I've heard of, I'm sure there's 1000's more. But I digress...

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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2003, 09:31:12 PM »
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The reason I didn't bother to post more was that there is no reason to do so. You seem to have a real problem with authority and police are the most obvious target. There is no hope for me to convince you otherwise so it's a waste of time to do so. You have already displayed you prejudice and lack of maturity and I have no reason to indulge you further. One of the nicest parts of being retired is that I no longer have to put up with this type of behaviour from someone. When I was on the job I had to put up with people with attitudes like yours and not say or do anything. Since I can now be free to associate with whom I want I don't need to waste my time in situations like this. It's like the crank caller who would dial the police desk and scream obscenities and other trash. Now I get to hang up.
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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2003, 09:50:22 PM »
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“Get the [expletive] out of here, you [expletive] Indian,” he recalled one officer saying, and they slammed his face on the hood of the trunk, took off his handcuffs and left him standing alone on a riverbank.

“I’ll freeze out here,” he yelled. “What’s wrong with you guys?”
 
A voice echoed in the cold: “That’s your [expletive] problem.”  


Obviously, this is not a true story.  Everyone knows Canadians are much more polite than this story would indicate.

"Please leave our vehicle noble Native American." then the officers gave the man a touque and some back bacon.

This version is much more plausable.
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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2003, 11:00:45 PM »
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lizard,

The reason I didn't bother to post more was that there is no reason to do so. You seem to have a real problem with authority and police are the most obvious target. There is no hope for me to convince you otherwise so it's a waste of time to do so. You have already displayed you prejudice and lack of maturity and I have no reason to indulge you further. One of the nicest parts of being retired is that I no longer have to put up with this type of behaviour from someone. When I was on the job I had to put up with people with attitudes like yours and not say or do anything. Since I can now be free to associate with whom I want I don't need to waste my time in situations like this. It's like the crank caller who would dial the police desk and scream obscenities and other trash. Now I get to hang up.


The reason you decided not to post more, then did is you can't answer the questions honestly and look yourself in the mirror. Your the one that jumped into this thread and kept comin back. When it gets to rough, you decide to hide behind your retirement like you've hidden behind a badge most of your life.

Instead of saying, NO, I don't think I'm above the law, I never got out of tickets because I'm a cop, I never did anything I'm ashamed of or thats illegal. Instead you call me immature, say I have a problem with authority and try to dispell my thoughts and experiences as the rantings and raving of a lunny.

Thing is, I'm not ranting, raving or making things up. You wanna check? I believe the Pigs name was Powell, but I may be wrong. It was in Poway California in the mid-eighties. That one you can check. Thing is, there are many cases like that from big to small. Most don't get reported. I've been harrassed by a town cop 10 miles out of his jurisdiction on the interstate 6 times in 8 months. NOOOO, its not a problem. Never happens.

So instead of trying to make me out to be some bad person just because I've got an insight into cops mentality, just do like you said you were going to and stfu. Go hide behind your retirement...or answer a few of the questions.