Ashcroft's Priority

[culero]

Originally posted by Yeager
comparing guns to pornography?  Liberal theory at work here.....There are laws that prevent the mentally ill and felons from owning guns.  Background checks and waiting periods.

Its a stretch to compare the two but you obviously want the filth, you got it.  Just beware your women and children, sex pervs feed off porn filth and hunt down for twisted pleasure those least able to defend themselves.

Enjoy yourself

You're mistaken. I'm not comparing guns to pornography.

I'm against blaming guns for violence. I'm for holding violent criminals responsible for their bad acts.

I'm also against blaming pornography for sex crimes. I'm for holding people who commit sexually-related crime responsible for their bad acts.

Where do YOU stand?

culero (lived through all those decades as well)

[Tilt]

I see the word pervert branded about in this debate as if its an unshakable label attached to those who would not limit the spread of pornography.

It seems to me that the greatest medium for the spread of pornography is indeed the internet...........

The idea of trying to limit pornography via control of printed material is really just a waste of time these days............

The idea of this (the internet) being subject to the idealism of any religious group set on the rest of the world following its doctrine scares the hell out of me...............

The powers that would have to be invoked to achieve this would basically be totalitarian in the extreme................ what we see, read, even discuss would be subject to the ideals of a (power full) religious group and their definition of what is suitable.

One would think that the US would know better than most nations just how effective "prohibition" is in the long run...........It didnt solve a drink problem, it isn't solving a drug problem and it wont solve a pornography problem.

Of course these are all only problems if you percieve them to be.............

If you really live in a society where pornography can turn folk into malicious rapists then may be the problem goes a little deeper...................

[Thud]

Originally posted by Eagler
thud - to some/many porno is a drug and a sickness. it is an organized crime industry which has grown to be accepted as normal and just another form of entertainment, run without restraints or limits, corrupting minds/lives/souls as it rolls along - that is why I speak out against it and for the AG's actions

Nonsense, Of course criminals are active in the porn business and obviously there are many facets that should be looked upon by the government but this is also true for the real estate market, auto business and any other field of enterprise. And it is just another form of entertainment, nothing out of the ordinary. And porn a drug and/or sickness, jellybeans, model trains and chatting on the net are exactly the same to some, time to sent the AG in? Don't think so...

[Nakhui]

Originally posted by Eagler
no problem on the rise Shane, but thanks for your concern - just saying as most grow up, you grow out of the little head mindset or should, much more to life than skirt sniffin

thud - to some/many porno is a drug and a sickness. it is an organized crime industry which has grown to be accepted as normal and just another form of entertainment, run without restraints or limits, corrupting minds/lives/souls as it rolls along - that is why I speak out against it and for the AG's actions

Addiction to pornography is called "paraphilia."

As for the porno industry - it's not owned by the mafia as many of you have erroneously espoused here. And there's no evidence that it leads to drugs, the mistreatment of women, or any other kind of social disfunction.

However, sexual repression caused by religious zealousy does lead to child molestation and domestic violence.

Pornography is actually a white collar corporate business. There are 4 companies which own 90% of the porno content distributed in Amereeeka.

The porn industry pioneered and inovated the credit card market on the internet, pioneered and inovated streaming video technology as well.

If it weren't for pornography, I wouldn't have a dungeon fully equiped with whips, racks, ties, spreaders, clamps, hoods, collars, masks, benches, chairs, and other assorted acoutrement... and women wouldn't be begging for the pleasure to be mastered, perverted, turned up side down spanked, locked up, shackled, and erotically molested and taken to time and space they've only dreamed of in their wildest most secretive fantasies.

God Bless Pornography!

[culero]

Originally posted by Tilt

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If you really live in a society where pornography can turn folk into malicious rapists then may be the problem goes a little deeper...................

Yanno, Tilt, I've always been of the opinion that anyone who claims pornography encourages sex crime must be revealing something about their own inner self, more so than the society they live in.

culero

[FUNKED1]

Some real enemies of freedom on this board.  We are taking names for when the revolution starts.

[Eagler]

porno = freedom now?? LOL

maybe when I was 16 I'd agreed with you

[culero]

Originally posted by Eagler
porno = freedom now?? LOL

maybe when I was 16 I'd agreed with you

Eagler no that's not the point. Nobody's defending porn here.

Its more "anything = freedom".

Of course, we have to draw the line where "anything" causes someone else harm. What's being questioned here is whether or not porn actually causes harm.

If we begin to ban things because they offend someone, where do we stop?

culero

[FUNKED1]

Eagler, somebody telling you what movies or books or pictures you can or can't look at, how is that freedom?  Take off the moral majority blinders and look at what you are saying.

[AVRO1]

Trying to put the blame somewhere else is just BS.
The guy pulled the trigger not the gun.  Guns have no will, they do nothing but exist just like pornography videos.  They are not morale entities that can choose to hurt people.

Enforcing morals based on your religion is silly because you got no proof that yours is the right one.
If your religion included orgies you might think them right.
It is all a matter of perspectives and opinions.
I don't like porn videos, I think they are dumb, but who am I to limit other people's choices? NOBODY THAT'S WHO.
What people do in their free time is none of my business.

I have only one word for you: SCAPEGOAT!!!!!!!!!

[MJHerman]

Originally posted by AVRO1

What people do in their free time is none of my business.

 

To paraphrase a former Prime Minister of Canada:

"The Government has no business in the bedrooms of its citizens".

 

Sorry, got it wrong the first time.  The actual quote is:

"The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."

[MJHerman]

Further food for thought....same Prime Minister:

"The state must take great care not to infringe on the conscience of the individual. I believe that, in the last analysis, a human being in the privacy of his own mind has the exclusive authority to choose his own scale of values and to decide which forces take precedence over others. A good constitution is one that does not prejudge any of these questions, but leaves citizens free to orient their human destinies as they see fit."

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
Some real enemies of freedom on this board.  We are taking names for when the revolution starts.

Dont worry comrade funked. the revolution will sweep such scum from this country.