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Offline kj714

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2004, 05:45:28 PM »
"But the american consumer and an american shareholder gains exactly what the american worker lost"

As if they weren't the same people? Miko, free enterprise has soundly demonstrated in the past that it will pursue what is seemingly good for it in the short run, ignoring negative long run effects. A job that goes overseas is a job lost now, there is not necessarily a 1 for 1 replacement. Ask anyone who worked for Levi's. You lose your job today, the lowering of prices of goods and services may take several years and may not happen ever at all.

There are several areas of our country that have been affected adversely by jobs going overseas and have not recovered after many years. These areas take an enormous toll on society just in terms of welfare and supporting an out of work labor force which is not factored into the simple equation you put forth. Your argument is eloquent and simple to make and is very often repeated verbatim by global free traders, but I believe that it will be proven wrong over time. Either that or I may have to move to India to find a job.

If I was in  poor country I would welcome the changes, being employed in the far wealthier country I believe that this will have an overall negative effect on us.

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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2004, 12:30:58 AM »
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I've been laid off since Feb 9..Was getting ready to go back next week when got word we laid off again(I work at Ford)....Don't tell me the economy is picking up.


you at the Oakville plant Sir?

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2004, 01:04:01 AM »
After reading this thread, I have concluded it's the end of the world !

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2004, 01:54:06 AM »
In the U.S. you don't have to work for someone else and be strapped w/ the fact that others control your employment destiny.
Being self employed has it's many problems... getting fired/laid off isn't one of them.
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2004, 02:52:03 AM »
true, but unless you where born to well-off parents you have to find a job that pays enough to live on and set aside enough to get a bussiness off the ground.

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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2004, 02:54:27 AM »
Took me 13 years of driving other peoples trucks before I had the money to buy my own.
So start up capital is key.

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2004, 03:02:40 AM »
Hey Nuke!

Look its LAwcobr  er I mean Mrblack!!



His parents must be out on the town late tonight? Isnt past a 12 year olds bed time?

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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2004, 03:55:56 AM »
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Hey Nuke!

Look its LAwcobr  er I mean Mrblack!!



His parents must be out on the town late tonight? Isnt past a 12 year olds bed time?


Maybe you should sober up you really are making a fool out of yourself.

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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2004, 05:07:21 AM »
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Maybe you should sober up you really are making a fool out of yourself.


At least he can sober up and he'll be better in the morning
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2004, 06:43:12 AM »
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Trickle down economics would work if those at the top trickled. Problem with the theory is those making the profits tend to keep them in the bank.

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In an especially encouraging sign that companies are feeling more confident in the staying power of the recovery, they boosted investment in equipment and software in the fourth quarter at a sizable 15.1 percent annual rate. That was stronger than the 10 percent rate first estimated and was a main factor in GDP being revised upward for the fourth quarter.
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AP) America's economy, bolstered by brisk business spending, grew at a healthy 4.1 percent annual rate
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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2004, 11:08:41 AM »
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true, but unless you where born to well-off parents you have to find a job that pays enough to live on and set aside enough to get a bussiness off the ground.


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So start up capital is key.


Yes, but many people fail to realize that there are many ways to acquire venture capital.  I saw my job coming to an end and spent time trying to figure out what people in a paticular industry needed, thought of an idea... took me two months to put it together.  There's lots of $$ out there to be had. One just has to find a product/service that people need... getting the money is easy(relatively) from there.
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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2004, 12:10:05 PM »
WTG Steve! I've always wanted to do my own thing, just haven't had the guts to give up the security of my employer for the great unknown. It's that old equation greater rewards = motivation + acceptance of greater risks.