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« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2004, 07:51:00 PM »
SunTracker, all you did was post a link.  What do You have to say?

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« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2004, 08:11:19 PM »
Thanks for the post dragonsbane.  But it really isn't necessary.  We prefer to get our information from the media because it is more accurate and unbias.

Oh... wait... it isn't.

Sometimes it amazes me that people so easily forget just how ****ed up kids between 18 and 22 can get.  Both boys and girls.

The way you talk about this does remind me of the way my wife talks about being an enlisted female in the Air Force.  Not trying to excuse the men here, but those innocent females were seldomely as innocent as they let on.  

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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2004, 09:31:28 PM »
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SunTracker, all you did was post a link. What do You have to say?


Embarrassed of and disappointed in the Air Force Academy.  Was happy to find that four of the Generals running the Academy were fired though.

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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2004, 10:00:56 PM »
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Embarrassed of and disappointed in the Air Force Academy.  Was happy to find that four of the Generals running the Academy were fired though.


Good, now you've stepped up like a man and said your piece.  That's far better than throwing mud at a wall and seeing what sticks.

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« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2004, 12:00:24 AM »
Opened my eyes DragonsBane.
Geez seems some dudes best just forget about dating and keep there minds on studies LOL NOT:(

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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2004, 01:20:23 AM »
Thanks, DragonsBane.  Appreciate your insight.  In this and many other subjects, difficult to sort out what really happened from media reports and public posturing.  Kinda goes along with the adage "The truth is not so much arrived at as it is surrounded."
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2004, 03:00:06 PM »
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Opened my eyes DragonsBane.
Geez seems some dudes best just forget about dating and keep there minds on studies LOL NOT:(


Sadly, lots of guys I know who are still out there are now terrified of dating any female cadet or female in the area because they are scared she's going to turn on them.

I'm glad I was able to provide a side of the story to all of you that helped clarify the mess that the media has been throwing around.  

As for Suntracker,  there are not 4 generals in charge of the Cadet Wing. There are three, and two of them were good guys who got the short end of the stick for simply being there.  The third general actually started this whole mess and deserved what he got.  The fourth commander mentioned in the article was probably a Colonel.

One of the generals was the Dean...obviously, he is focused on Academics, does not have much interaction with cadets AT ALL  and got taken out  of the job simply for being there. He was actually the very last one, taken out months after the others just because some females kept throwing tantrums. (and still are)

Another general was a 3 star who pulled my happy little butt out of the fire and managed to straighten out a situation before it got worse.  He had a great sense of humor, actually treated cadets like people, and was the greatest honor to have known.  Me and some friends even took him a box of donuts because we joked about him being too thin. He had no idea that anything was going on, but was fired simply because he was at the top of the chain of command.  

The last general however, was a jerk who deserved to have gotten in trouble.  He was rude and treated cadets like bugs. While what he told the female cadet  that started all of this (he likened the girl who was doing body shots and stripping and flirting to a guy walking down a dark alley with a hundred dollar bill in his pocket), he was overall not a good person.

SunTracker, you do not have any clue what you are talking about.  Before you start carrying on about how personally disappointed you are by the Academy and the generals in charge of it, at least get your facts straight before you start bashing the whole shebang.

And finally, remember, the Academy itself is not the problem with the few real cases of rape that have occured. Its one or two bad individuals that did some really bad things.  It's a few bad choices made by a few individuals. It is NOT every single officer running the Academy and it is definitly not every cadet who walks through those doors so that they may serve their country.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2004, 03:18:30 PM by DragonsBane »

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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2004, 03:23:15 PM »
<---------got briskett and spareribs on th grill...should be ready any minute now.

How about passin th cook a brew?

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« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2004, 06:01:05 PM »
One of the best experiences of my life was attending the AFA graduation ceremonies when my brother in law graduated. Incredible place, great food at the banquet, great airshow in the stadium, great town.