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« Reply #165 on: April 16, 2004, 09:30:21 PM »
BLaden is **** stirring. Not surprising (or relieving, depending on your prejudices) that no countries felt stirred by his truce, which is just that, not even a negociation, which even it wouldn't be interesting since he has no political credibility. Public masses can't be let become impressed and string-pulled by BL, his propaganda and scare tactics and **** stirring need to be debunked by the governements, there should be a closer agreement between governments and their respective people.

Islamism is a Nazi lookalike, really. Nazi fascists were fought as they deserved back then, why shouldn't they be now?

"Democracy" is probably not what people of Irak want, that's democracy with quotes, in the sense that someone upstream the thread mentionned: the only way they'll (and the rest of the muslim world) not feel agressed, is if you let them live their traditions. God knows how long they've followed them, how central it is to their lives.
If you want to really have an impact against islamist terrorism, you need to fight Islamism ideologically. IMO no one really deals with it (for ex. in important speeches etc), sort of afraid to break the stupid PC rules, to dirty their hands or something.
Either naive or careless or ignorant, but in my opinion fighting it at that root will be more effective than just using remedies after-the-fact.

Not to say that Saddam didn't merit military removal, nor that the US shouldn't defend itself when threatened as it was and still is and unfortunately still will be for a long time.

Sort of like wars on drugs, viruses and scripts and spam aren't going away anytime soon from the net with only brute scorched earth tactics.
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« Reply #166 on: April 17, 2004, 01:18:42 AM »
I removed an OBL from the inside of my cheek. It was painful and required something very hot. Worth it in the long run.

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« Reply #167 on: April 17, 2004, 01:50:27 AM »
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Bound to be one ... either one. Either the US and the UK are war criminals like your ilk tends to claim or the UN writes "thank you" resolutions. Right? If you want to take your stubborn stance on this to the point of sillyness (you certainly aren't debating the issue, your mind was made up to begin with and you're simply trying to "correct other peoples misperceptions") then expect those of us willing to exhibit common sense not to take you seriously. :D
No your point got me thinking -
Why didn't the UN Security Council censure two of its veto-carrying members in the Security Council? I wondered if it had done in similar cases of charter-breaking invasions.

Strangely enough, I can't find a UN Security Council resolution censuring the USSR for the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. By your logic, I presume this mean that this invasion was also what the UN wanted.

I can't find a UN Security Council resolution censuring China's invasion of Vietnam in 1980 either. Presumably the UN approved that one too.

Call me a conspiracy nut - but I see a pattern. It's as if the UN Security Council just doesn't bother censuring veto holders because they know they'll veto the resolution.

And yes when it comes to trashing idiot spin on the Iraqi Invasion, I am stubborn - I  prefer truth to advertising.
Feel free to exhibit common sense, but never forget - common sense is the thing that tells you that the sun moves round the earth and that the earth is flat. ;)
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« Reply #168 on: April 17, 2004, 09:55:17 AM »
Ya know.. I met grun in person..  He is a cheerful and bright guy.  He is in no way hostile and he listens before he speaks.    Very personable guy and you would probly enjoy soending time with him.

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« Reply #169 on: April 17, 2004, 10:07:45 AM »
Thanks lazs! I appreciate it. :)

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« Reply #170 on: April 17, 2004, 10:16:11 AM »
And he likes Mexican food, he isn't all that bad! :)  His car needs some serious detailing though....:eek: :D

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« Reply #171 on: April 17, 2004, 10:19:51 AM »
Hmm... we all had mexican food when I met him too... his car?  what was wrong with it?   red mustang wasn't it?  average condition?

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« Reply #172 on: April 17, 2004, 10:25:32 AM »
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And he likes Mexican food, he isn't all that bad! :)  His car needs some serious detailing though....:eek: :D


Yes it does, and certainly did at the time. I damn near took 1/2 of Canada's insects back home with me the front bumper of my car... :)

No worries though Rip, next time I'm up there I will gladly let you wash and polish my car. ;)

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« Reply #173 on: April 17, 2004, 06:21:20 PM »
I think it's gonna rain piss on the neo-con and "we were acting on the UN's behalf!"  parade once more...

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« Reply #174 on: April 18, 2004, 07:21:17 AM »
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g' morning Holden McGroin so with your numbers in mind,
with all the support i'm sure your next holiday trip will be Iraq.

1:0 for you :p


You said zero support.  I showed a credible poll showing an actual majority of Iraqi support. With still 3/8 of the population in opposition to our action the poll results will not cause me to cancel plans for diving in Belize, but they are enough to prove you wrong.

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