Author Topic: Su-35 is WAY overmodeled (Read 1610 times)

Cobra412 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 23, 2004, 03:58:28 AM »

Bohdi I'm in repair and maintenance. As far as the minimum range envelope I can't go into that.

Cobra412 · « **Reply #61 on:** May 23, 2004, 04:11:53 AM »

Suntracker may I ask what your basing your opinion on with the F-14?

Diablo the Raptor by definition is a bird of prey. So how is that gay? Lets see there's the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fight Falcon, F-14 Tomcat, F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet. I know it's hard but lets see where the Raptor fits amongst this bunch. No offense to the Navy folks but Hornet and Tomcat? Atleast the hornet fits it's job description somewhat where as Tomcat is just different than the others. Heck even Sesame Street could have picked that out of the bunch.

I'm sure you would all be surprised at up and coming systems for all of the US Armed Forces. The problem is very few see exactly whats being designed and tested on a daily basis. Guess thats the nice thing about being in this business.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #62 on:** May 23, 2004, 08:56:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Cobra412
Suntracker may I ask what your basing your opinion on with the F-14?
Diablo the Raptor by definition is a bird of prey. So how is that gay? Lets see there's the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fight Falcon, F-14 Tomcat, F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet. I know it's hard but lets see where the Raptor fits amongst this bunch. No offense to the Navy folks but Hornet and Tomcat? Atleast the hornet fits it's job description somewhat where as Tomcat is just different than the others. Heck even Sesame Street could have picked that out of the bunch.

I'm sure you would all be surprised at up and coming systems for all of the US Armed Forces. The problem is very few see exactly whats being designed and tested on a daily basis. Guess thats the nice thing about being in this business.

If you don't know where Tomcat comes from you don't know Grumman history. Go look it up and get back to me. The Hornet? Has a really nice sting. Raptor sounds, I don't know, just Jurassic-ish. Also, realise that it is derived from the Latin word raptores which means "plunderer", not exactly what I'd want to name a US fighter. Yeah, it still sounds gay.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 23, 2004, 09:04:09 AM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
If you don't know where Tomcat comes from you don't know Grumman history. Go look it up and get back to me. The Hornet? Has a really nice sting. Raptor sounds, I don't know, just Jurassic-ish. Also, realise that it is derived from the Latin word raptores which means "plunderer", not exactly what I'd want to name a US fighter. Yeah, it still sounds gay.

When I think of the word raptor, I think of a bird of prey.

That's a perfect image for a fighter.

eskimo

DiabloTX · « **Reply #64 on:** May 23, 2004, 09:05:43 AM »

To each his own then.

Cobra412 · « **Reply #65 on:** May 23, 2004, 02:15:51 PM »

So because some Admiral (Connolly) supported it so much that makes it a good name? Doesn't necessarily fit it's job description either way.

Jester · « **Reply #66 on:** May 23, 2004, 11:06:58 PM »

The F-14 TOMCAT is a "family name" of the Grumman Corporation that made it. Most fighters starting with the F4F were named after cats.

The "Cat" names started with the famous WW2 F4F WILDCAT and continued with the Hellcat, Tigercat, Bearcat to the jet age with the Panther, Cougar, Tiger and finally the TOMCAT.

Can't recall which ones they were but two other Grumman planes had the "nicknames" Bobcat & Black Cat but they didn't catch on.

Even some of the Fire Engines made by the Grumman Corp today are named after cats: Attack Cat is the small Fire/Rescue vehicle, Fire Cat is the standard Pumper & Arial Cat is their ladder truck.

Scootter · « **Reply #67 on:** May 24, 2004, 07:31:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Jester
The F-14 TOMCAT is a "family name" of the Grumman Corporation that made it. Most fighters starting with the F4F were named after cats.

The "Cat" names started with the famous WW2 F4F WILDCAT and continued with the Hellcat, Tigercat, Bearcat to the jet age with the Panther, Cougar, Tiger and finally the TOMCAT.

Can't recall which ones they were but two other Grumman planes had the "nicknames" Bobcat & Black Cat but they didn't catch on.

Even some of the Fire Engines made by the Grumman Corp today are named after cats: Attack Cat is the small Fire/Rescue vehicle, Fire Cat is the standard Pumper & Arial Cat is their ladder truck.

Don't forget General Aviation, The Grumman.. Cheetah, Tiger and their Spray plane the AgCat