How do you guys cause a over shoot?

[Spatula]

I use the barrel roll to good effect mostly. There are some really good shooters out there that do tag ya in barrel roll - leonid, ram, hristo to name a few. The trick is there has to be a fairly large speed difference for it to work. If they are on ya slowly closing then a barell roll is not a good move, try rolling sissors or preying and moving eractly. If they closing at a great rate of speed then the barrell roll works a treat, you get some idiots who try follow you - watch as the (nme) plane cunningly sheds its wings   . The other trick ive found is to do ya barrell roll in a slight nose-down attitude so ya keep ya speed up. Keep an eye out the back and back quarter views, and back upper views and watch him, you'll notice if he follows (its hard to follow him in the views, but you'll pick it up fast), he should be doing alot larger rolls than you if he is then he will overshoot, if he aint ya might get tagged. When your cycling through the views and notice con getting into rear upper, and upper views, he has all but overshot, so level out, re-aquire and follow up provided ya got the speed or good climb ability (109, P-38) and nail him with a snapshot as he climbs away (ya have to be fast), if ya miss, point nose down and get speed and separation again, then wait for him to dive again and repeat, he will have wasted alot of E following you in the barrel.
If he dont follow ya, consider running (while he goes up) to friendlies or ack or something to break his concentration.

If ya do a rolling sissor move, i tend to back off the throttle a little (about 80%) to try force the overshoot if they are closing slowly. Some people also throttle down to stay with you. If you notice this, espc if ya in the 190 or la-5 then just do a few more rolls to get him as slow as you, then ram 100% and wep and with a gentle dive and out accelerate em. From here your better off but not in the clear  

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[This message has been edited by Spatula (edited 06-05-2000).]