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Offline ASTAC

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« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2005, 06:58:45 PM »
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Take the hook out.
I think its a bad joke.


No joke this guy was even on hannity and combs..though hannity didn't really let him speak/
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« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2005, 07:10:41 PM »
He couldn't get on the "Gravy Train" so now he's attacking it..what a little whiny ******.....freedom of speech does not free you from the reactions of others and only the government has to respect that right I do not.


Apparently, he was (briefly) a member of RightNation.US and stalked someone there.

The nutcase apparently TRIED to get into the military and was REJECTED. He wrote the following letter to Press of Atlantic City on Friday, June 11, 1999. It was published on his old website, michaelcrook.com:

To my dismay, after a mere two weeks at Fort Benning, despite the fact that I passed every test required to ship to a basic training unit, I was told I was medically unfit for training. On May 7, a month after I left, I walked back into the Philadelphia airport and happily into the waiting arms of my girlfriend, but on my way to being out of the Army.

To this day, I am fighting to get back in, through a congressional inquiry and any existing appeals processes. Granted, it has only been a little more than a month since I've been out, but it feels like an eternity.

My reason for sharing this is simple. It's apparant that too many people are taking military service for granted.

The various branches of the military must practically bribe people to join in the form of sign-up bonuses (mine was $3,000, but I'm being quite honest when I saw that didn't cross my mind when I made the phone call), assistance with college money, and other benefits. These things are all well and good, but they are not good reasons to join the military.

hether it be the Army, Marines, Navy, the Air Force, or the Coast Guard, our country wouldn't be where it is today without the valuable service of the countless men and women who have served.

Many people in Southern New Jersey and elsewhere don't stop and think about the pride that goes along with serving.

I can't describe the pride that I feel every time I see the flag being raised. I felt it a privilege to salute while the flag was being retired at dusk. I can feel the mutual pride and respect when I salute an officer or observe a salute being rendered.

Every time I hear the national anthem or the Lee Greenwood song "God Bless the USA", I feel pride in my heart.

At the same time, I feel sadness, because I know I'm not on the training field finishing my basic training as I should be. I feel jealousy fill up within me every time I pass a serviceperson in the mall or elsewhere. In a few cases, I've stopped and spoken briefly with them and reminded them how privileged they are to be serving out country.

And that is what people should think about when they sign up for the military. It's not just about the pay, the benefits, and the "perks". It's mainly about defending our country and making sure our freedom stays intact.

"Freedom isn't free" may be a cliche, but it is very true. Many people, men and women, have died to ensure that we can listen to the music that we do, say whatever we want, and have all the various freedoms that we exercise practically every day and take for granted.

Perhaps in November when we observe Veterans Day, and when next May brings Memorial Day, we can think beyond the day off of work and school and remember not only the people who have died in service to our country, but also the countless others who voluntarily leave behind their loved ones to serve in the military.

Hat tip to GI Jane at RightNation.US for all of the info.
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« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2005, 07:29:55 PM »
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No joke this guy was even on hannity and combs..though hannity didn't really let him speak/


But Hannity is a joke:)
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« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2005, 07:55:50 AM »
wrote him a nice letter..we'll see if he posts it to the site.
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« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2005, 05:02:04 PM »
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Every time I hear the national anthem or the Lee Greenwood song "God Bless the USA", I feel pride in my heart.


Hmmm... every time I hear Lee Greenwood, I feel this piercing headache in the top of my skull. ;)
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« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2005, 11:15:51 PM »
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Hmmm... every time I hear Lee Greenwood, I feel this piercing headache in the top of my skull. ;)


Everytime I hear Lee Greenwood there's a plane performing acrobatics just overhead. ;-)

Whatever happened to John Philip Sousa? Why must patriotism be so danged schmaltzy these days? Bring back the Star Spangled Banner! Gimmee Brass Bands, John Wayne, and Remember the Alamo any day...

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"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

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« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2005, 09:33:22 AM »
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Whatever happened to John Philip Sousa? Why must patriotism be so danged schmaltzy these days? Bring back the Star Spangled Banner! Gimmee Brass Bands, John Wayne, and Remember the Alamo any day...

- SEAGOON


Cool... it's not just me then.
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« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2005, 09:52:12 AM »
I like schmaltz... go figure.

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« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2005, 10:00:48 AM »
can't think of a better way to readily identify the whackos, other than the freedom of expression.

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« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2005, 10:26:59 AM »
It was Halderman. He wanted all the strawberries.
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« Reply #70 on: June 03, 2005, 10:45:07 AM »
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Thanks


psst....google says the correct spelling is Illegitimi Non Carborundum I had to look it up. :aok


Try looking up the countless words YOU mess up on, on this thread alone...























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« Reply #71 on: June 03, 2005, 10:48:25 AM »
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Try looking up the countless words YOU mispell, on this thread alone...




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yes no one has ever accused me of being a good speller.  I pointed that out AS I SAID more for the fact that I had to look it up rather than it being mispelled.  Good expression though.;)   just wish I could pronounce it properly