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Offline Gunthr

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« on: August 31, 2005, 06:13:29 PM »
Damn! After everything I've heard about it, and reading many of the Ann Rice books about this area, I wanted to check out the architecture and culture there.

 I didn't care so much about Mardi Gras, but was very interested in the food, the music, the regular folks there... but there was always something else I did instead of going there. Now, I don't think I'll ever see New Orleans the way it was.

I'm wondering how in the world does a city get built right on the Gulf of Mexico, smack dab in the middle of hurricane country,  20 feet below sea level, next to a good sized lake and a river too, and below both of those - relying on pumps to keep the city dry when it is perfectly forseeable that the pumps will fail in the event of a direct hit from any sizable hurricane???

I don't get it. I hope that James Michener got around to writing a novel about this area to solve that riddle for me...

This hurricane really turned out so tragic for them, needless to say.  What a damn shame, with all that loss of life and living history there.  Life will go on, but ....
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 06:15:53 PM »
i was lucky enough to see bourbon street and most of N.O. back when i was younger on a family vacation.

about 5PM walking down bourbon street, listening to the jazz come out of litterally door front, then 2 blocks over there was a POP and someone got shot.

parents took me back to the holiday inn right away LOL
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 05:49:59 AM »
Well Gunthr I've been down to the grand ol gal a couple of times.

Food= out of this world, there is no comparision anywhere I've seen.

Party, man does this town party.
Never tried to do Mardi Gras (too many people) But I tied one on there one New Years Eve that I still remember.

Many of the Historic old buildings might be saved, new wireing, new drywall, floor & ceiling, a coat of paint & voila!

As to the land itself, it was us that screwed it up.

Must of Lower LA is/was delta. Delta grows because of silts washed down the river each year. When the river overflows its banks, slows down, the silt drops. Water recedes, leaves the silt behind. Newly created land like that can grow up to 3 - 5 inches per flood.

Once we built a town there, we stopped it from flooding. Time, and settling have done the rest. They've known for 30 years what would happen if they ever got hit square on by a good hurricaine. They've mostly just been really really lucky to this point.

The other thing is a lot of that land has been reclaimed from swamp/marsh. Filled just enough so that it dry's off on top, and can be built on.

My aunt's house "used" to be 2 houses from the Levi, just outside NO proper in Harahan. On the West side, towards Kenner.

They had dredging rigs constantly working the bottom, pumping up to settling ponds inside the levi. This matterial was then left to dry a bit, then hauled away to fill low spots for more developments.


It will come back, I watched Grand Forks North Dakota come through a similar flood (although not 1/50th as big).

It takes time, infrastructure, and financing. They did one thing I thought was smart up there. Right after the flood they went and pulled the power meter from any house that was wet.

You want a meter, call & get it inspected. When everything passes, you get a meter.  Its the quickest way to get power back.

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2005, 07:42:31 AM »
thanks, Ghosth.  I figured that situation in NO must have evolved over time...loss of surrounding delta and wetlands, etc.  That makes sense.

ND was smart to kill power at all wet residences by taking the meters  - saved lives I bet, and forced inspections at the same time.  I think I read that NO killed power centrally at power stations for the time being.  They should do it like ND after the water goes down and people begin to think about rebuilding whats lost and rehabbing what they can save.  But from what I've seen on the news, NO and the French Quarter look pretty much trashed to me.

I hope your aunt got out in time...



Mustaine - New Orleans was famous for a lot of things, I think crime was one of them! They also had one of the most corrupt police departments in the country, with cops doing murders, robberies, and burglarys  - while on duty!  The Feds had to step in and take over that department...  it had been changing for the better until the hurricane.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 11:30:24 AM »
Actually I think a lot of the French Quarter had survived intact.....until the looters decided to go shopping.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2005, 05:37:22 AM »
Took most of a week but word finally filtered down the grapevine.

My aunt is fine in Michigan. No idea how she got THAT far north but maybe she'll stop here on the way home.

Kids are in Ark living in RV's.

So sounds like everyone is at least alive & healthy.

The advantage's Grand Forks had was that the river went down after 4 days. It was early spring with temps averageing around 40.

I can't imagine what NO is going to smell like after a month of 90+ temps.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2005, 08:56:31 AM »
I have cousins who lived in NO.  back in the '70s they lived in the quarter on kerlerec st. at that time it didn't seem any wilder to me than miami did but I was a 14-15 year old kid.  my uncle was the chef at the royal orleans hotel back then.  the country was a lot less homogenous in the '70s and cities were different, they each seemed to have their own character unlike to today where if you go to one place in the US you pretty much have seen them all unless you actively search out what's different.  I returned to NO periodically the last time being in '95 for my uncle's wake.  NO had changed radically.  the streets in qurater were rife with a lot of libertine gays running around all wildeyed on vitamin E or other controlled substances being more flamboyant than even what you see here in miami.  

I hope they recover because good or bad NO is one of a very few atypical American urban areas.

things I'll miss if NO does not come back;

eating at antoine's
ouefs sardon for breakfast
huitres en coquille a la rockefeller
ecrevisses cardinal
pommes de terre souffle

cafe du monde
beignets and coffee late at night prior to retiring

walking in the quarter and having  the shoe shine boys come up and ask you and other touristy types if you want your shoes shined.  if you respond no they engage you with the classic "I betcha a shoeshine I can tell you were you got them shoes"  "I can even tell what street you got them shoes at"  what a hoot!!!  then the surprised look on their faces when I bust them at their own game.  don't ever play the other man's game.  lol. great town with a lot of joi de vivre.

yup that town needs to come back,  IMO it is one of six really interesting cities to visit in the US
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