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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2005, 07:53:26 PM »
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Wikipedia recently got in trouble when people started making erroneous and false submissions.  They now require everything to be checked and submitted by wiki members.


Wiki members?

Sounds like a primitive tribe lmao
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2005, 07:55:12 PM »
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Actually what it says is

"a. FDR led us into World War II."

You've misquoted.  It does not state that the war was Started by FDR merely that he was at the helm when the war began.  I suppose it could be argued that it implies his actions (and leadership) resulted in our entry into the war.  That, however, would be an alternate meaning of the word "led".

Not that I'm claiming any of this to be true (or defending it in any way).  Personally I think that there is no such thing as the truth.  Even when we consider the truth of life itself I often feel that it is, in realty, nothing more than a fairly good piece of fiction.


Actually werent we more or less already unofficially at war with Germany by helping out the Brits before 12/7/41?
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2005, 07:57:36 PM »
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Read the link. According to Snopes, the exchange between Glenn and Metzenbaum is true. The part about FDR, Kennedy, et al, is not.


where does it say the part about  FDR,Kennedy etc isnt true?

Near as I can tell it only says it was tacked onto a circulating Email that contains it
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2005, 07:57:46 PM »
a. FDR led us into World War II.

True. This doesn't mean he started it.

b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 112,500 per year.

True, but misleading. Germany declared war on the U.S.

c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.
North Korea never attacked us.
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 18,334 per year.

True, but the UN did vote to aid South Korea.

d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.

False. The first combat troops arrived in 1965.

e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 5,800 per year.

Matter of opinion, but why the hell not. That was back in the day when the buck stopped at the Oval.

f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing Osama has attacked us on
multiple occasions.

False. The UN Protection Force entered Bosnia in 1992. The second part (Sudan, Osama, Clinton) is unsubstantiated.

g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush
has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North
Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

Misleading. Al Qaeda doesn't appear crippled. Libya was going that way anyway. Iran and North Korea remain threats. Hussein was a mercilous dictator, not a terrorist (according to U.S. Code Title 22).

The Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking.
But
. It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno
to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation.

We took Iraq?

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.

According to Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, they KNEW the location of the weapons. Search?

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the
Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard
than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his
Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick

In other words, not much of a threat there.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Again... we took Iraq?

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!
The Military morale is high!

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2005, 08:03:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
Read the link. According to Snopes, the exchange between Glenn and Metzenbaum is true. The part about FDR, Kennedy, et al, is not.


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no it says it's missleading



Looking for the word's "not true"  Nope don't see them
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2005, someone prefaced the John Glenn/Howard Metzenbaum article with the following item about Iraq. This addendum has nothing to do with John Glenn — it's an anonymous piece that has been floating around the Internet since 2004, but because it has been tacked onto an article about Glenn, readers have been misled into thinking that it is a transcription of something he said:


Again it says that the email "misled" readers into thinking those were statments........I didn't assume they were.

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2005, 08:26:42 PM »
Guns... you caught me mid-edit. I see your point.
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2005, 08:45:31 PM »
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Guns... you caught me mid-edit. I see your point.


RGR that :aok

Not to say I agree with the points....except maybe about the detroit part, but either way it's mostly retoric that appears to be missleading.  I just figured better.
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